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7581  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: [SCAM] SUPER8 -Highly suspicious, most likely connected with DATBIT scam! on: September 21, 2019, 09:32:57 PM

To clarify your doubts, Super8 is not a scam and we are not related to Jhon Steaves he approaches us to be part of our team as listing manager. As a little startup team we had less members and more we said ok and he said i post on Bitcointalk but that post got red alert . So officially we created our account and posting here. By this negativity we removed him very soon.

You are not related to Jhon Steaves , while you put him among core team members in your whitepaper? So you want to say you did no background check who you are putting in your whitepaper and naming as as one of core members? I am sorry but i don't buy that.

Beside that, how do you explain  Ashokkumar R.J having exactly the same experience as "Larry Ducles" who is btw fake person, that Datbit made?

Yes John loi sir giving us suggestion and as mentor to us. Yes he had old LinkedIn profile too. New profile using for active and discussion with other through it for super8 coin and he had much interest in the pandaras project, he is one of inverter in it and promoting worldwide.

And Sakib works for many projects and he only helps in listing to exchanges. He seriously working for Super8 coin success discussing with many exchanges and marketing agencies.


So "Jhon Loi" made new LinkedIn account just for Super8 ? That doesn't make any sense

Regarding Sakib Raj, he only helps with exchange listing, and yet you mentioned him as core team member? And what about @Jhonsteaves, as he is also mentioned in your contact as listing manager? You have 2 listing managers, Sakib Raj and @Jhonsteaves?


So to sum it up, from 3 core team members you have:
-1(Ashokkumar R.J0 that has exactly same experience as fake person from another scam project.
-1(Jhon Loi ) that made brand new LinkedIn account just for Super8 purposes.
-1 (Sakib Raj) that  copied part of his experience from another scam project, was involved in another project that copied WP and has fake team member and is just "helping you with exchanges.


So many questions, but no proper answers.
7582  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread on: September 21, 2019, 07:22:56 PM
Real Madrid should worry about their future. I Don't think on this season Madrid will won a single trophy with this kind of performance. Zidane should change his tactics because current tactics Isn't working.Also some injuries causing great harms to the sqaud.
                

Things like this that are worried by supporters of Real Madrid. Like it or not They will be without any title this season again, Real Madrid's decline is very drastic at this time. To be sure their core players (who are currently injured) greatly affect the overall game of Real Madrid.

And now they are already questioning Zidane, the coach that won the CL with them three times already. They have to admit that they were depending on CR7 more than they thought. After he left, Real is struggling really hard.

Ronaldo is not only problem or reason why Real have so many difficulties now and plays so poorly.
Even at the time Zidane first coached Real, and won the European Championship title three times, Real has never had a game system built, clear strategy and tactics, but relied on the individual quality of the players, which, often with much luck, passed in the Champions League but not in the Spanish Championship.
Now, they don't have Ronaldo any more, didn't get new stars like Pogba or Neymar, and some playsers like Marcelo, Ramos, Modric etc. are to old and can't play at a high level in continuity any longer.


+1

Real Madrid needs complete revamp of the team, what they did this year won't be enough. It will take them few years probably to be CL contenders, but sooner they start doing it, sooner they get some results. But all this was kinda expected, C.Ronaldo ended one era of Real Madrid. And i might add that I expected more from Hazard, but probably he just still need more time to adjust. Modric was also not good his first season in Real, remember some even saying signing him was a mistake. Hazard is class player, so i think he will overcome this, and start working more on physical aspect, he is kinda out of shape.

Most likely same will happen to Barcelona when Messi retires/leaves, that's how it goes.

The point of everything you say is that Real Madrid has not been optimal during this season. They lost the game like 2-3 the previous season. Hazard and Ronaldo are different players, so far Hazard has not contributed much to Real Madrid. So Hazard cannot be compared to his role as Ronaldo.

Not just that, Ronaldo has always been the perfect example of an absolutely ready football player, completely focused on football and winning.
Hazard came to Real completely unprepared and gained a few pounds over the summer, which shows me that his level of seriousness and focus on football is much lower from the one Ronaldo shows.


C. Ronaldo is probably the biggest professional I've seen since i watch football. This guy lives football 24/7 and it shows, physically most dominant player ever.

I prefer Messi, but C.Ronaldo is an epitome of a football player, and you have to admire him for that.
7583  Local / Altcoins (Hrvatski) / Re: 🍀🍀 Bounty kampanje Altcoin – Signature, Telegram 🍀🍀 on: September 21, 2019, 11:44:38 AM
I mislio sam da Jr Member ni ne primaju, ali ajd bar je moguce upast sa Member rankom, nije ni to lose za pocetak.
Ti trebaš samo par postova još da napišeš i da ti se activity podigne na 60 i postat ćeš Member rang. Bolje ti je sačekaj par dana sa prijavljivanjem, postani Member pa onda ganjaj neku Bitcoin kampanju radi te razlike u zaradi između Jr. Membera i Membera.  

Da, imam ja dovoljno postova, samo mi fale 4 activity , valjda ce ovih dana to biti updejtano.

Vidim da ova Bitvest kampanja ima razlicite tierove, pa mene sada zanima kad se tek pocinje, da li svi krecu  od najmanjeg tiera pa onda polako napredujes ili o tome bounty manager odlucuje, pa se moze krenuti od recimo tier C umjesto najnizeg, tier E?
7584  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread on: September 21, 2019, 08:28:43 AM
I've been going to Dinamo Zagreb games since 1992, and more than once i had high hopes, but somehow they managed to mess it up each year, with 2 exceptions, in the late 90s and last year.

That being said, this Dinamo Zagreb really looks confident, more mature and a team with a plan. Dinamo always had very talented players, but this year  they managed to keep all their best players except Sunjic who they sold way to cheap (imho he was 2nd or 3rd most important Dinamo player). I didn't say that they cant be 2nd, of course they can, but personally i think it would be very hard and for me 3rd spot would be good too. Atalanta played awful game and Dinamo was brilliant, but Dinamo can also play like crap, and i simply don't want to be caught in euphoria after only 1 round.
Experience and traditionally a winning mentality goes a long way in the Champions League. I don't know how far Dinamo can go, if they can advance from the Group stage. I remember a few years ago when they were in the same group as Juventus they didn't win a single point. Can't remember if they scored more than a few goals.

From a realistic point of view do you think they have what it takes to to repeat the performance against Atalanta?


To be honest, i am not sure that they can repeat this performance, what we saw the other  night was  maybe best Dinamo game in many years.

Dinamo had some good performances against strong opponents in the past like 0:0 against Man Utd @Old Trafford in 1999 ( strongest ManUtd ever, they won CL previous season), 2  CL wins in 1998 (against Porto and Ajax), that 2:1 win against Arsenal few years ago, but i think they never  dominated like against Atalanta.

It is right what you said about winning mentality, and Dinamo certainly  lacked that, despite domination in  national championship, but they might got back on the track previous season, when they managed to go through next round in Europe, first time in almost  50 years or so. That obviously gave them confidence boost.

For Dinamo to finish 2nd, beside them keep playing good, it is also needed that Man City  keep beating Shakhtar and Atalanta, taking all points from them. But as i said before, i don't want to jump on hype train after 1st round, too many games left and i know that things can get complicated very fast.

7585  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread on: September 20, 2019, 08:39:00 PM
Real Madrid should worry about their future. I Don't think on this season Madrid will won a single trophy with this kind of performance. Zidane should change his tactics because current tactics Isn't working.Also some injuries causing great harms to the sqaud.
                

Things like this that are worried by supporters of Real Madrid. Like it or not They will be without any title this season again, Real Madrid's decline is very drastic at this time. To be sure their core players (who are currently injured) greatly affect the overall game of Real Madrid.

And now they are already questioning Zidane, the coach that won the CL with them three times already. They have to admit that they were depending on CR7 more than they thought. After he left, Real is struggling really hard.

Ronaldo is not only problem or reason why Real have so many difficulties now and plays so poorly.
Even at the time Zidane first coached Real, and won the European Championship title three times, Real has never had a game system built, clear strategy and tactics, but relied on the individual quality of the players, which, often with much luck, passed in the Champions League but not in the Spanish Championship.
Now, they don't have Ronaldo any more, didn't get new stars like Pogba or Neymar, and some playsers like Marcelo, Ramos, Modric etc. are to old and can't play at a high level in continuity any longer.


+1

Real Madrid needs complete revamp of the team, what they did this year won't be enough. It will take them few years probably to be CL contenders, but sooner they start doing it, sooner they get some results. But all this was kinda expected, C.Ronaldo ended one era of Real Madrid. And i might add that I expected more from Hazard, but probably he just still need more time to adjust. Modric was also not good his first season in Real, remember some even saying signing him was a mistake. Hazard is class player, so i think he will overcome this, and start working more on physical aspect, he is kinda out of shape.

Most likely same will happen to Barcelona when Messi retires/leaves, that's how it goes.
7586  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread on: September 20, 2019, 02:20:02 PM
Regarding Dinamo Zagreb being 2nd in the group, while being possible, i don't think that it will happen. They have good chance for being 3rd though and continuing in Europa league. That would also be a very good result.

But maybe i'm just too cautious  as i got used to disappointments when it comes to Dinamo Zagreb and Euro games, i would say that this generation is even better than the one in the late 90s with Viduka, Prosinecki, Cvitanovic..

Why not Dinamo Zagreb can be second in the group? Obviously City is without a doubt the first place favorite, but Atalanta is joke team, they play worst football you can see in CL, and City is win over Shakhtar without any problems, as it is a light training, and not a CL game.

Dinamo can beat Shakhtar in home game, and take at least one point in away game, probably also play a draw in Bergamo. With 8 points second place is pretty realistic, but first they need to play with MC in Manchester, this will be good test for them.

I've been going to Dinamo Zagreb games since 1992, and more than once i had high hopes, but somehow they managed to mess it up each year, with 2 exceptions, in the late 90s and last year.

That being said, this Dinamo Zagreb really looks confident, more mature and a team with a plan. Dinamo always had very talented players, but this year  they managed to keep all their best players except Sunjic who they sold way to cheap (imho he was 2nd or 3rd most important Dinamo player). I didn't say that they cant be 2nd, of course they can, but personally i think it would be very hard and for me 3rd spot would be good too. Atalanta played awful game and Dinamo was brilliant, but Dinamo can also play like crap, and i simply don't want to be caught in euphoria after only 1 round.
7587  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SUPER8 COIN [POW] [Fully Decentralized Cryptocurrency][Discussions] on: September 20, 2019, 12:05:42 PM
Be careful,  Super8 is connected with Datbit, scam project!


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5186197.msg52507926#msg52507926
7588  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Datbit - SCAM ICO - stealing people's identity on: September 20, 2019, 11:10:36 AM
So, despite Datbit being obvious scam, that didn't stop exchanges from listing it. Among those were BiteBTC, P2PB2B ( they delisted them recently)and TOPBTC. And this last one mentioned, TOPBTC is the only one where Datbit still has volume.
Listing on exchange doesn't proved that project is legit. Listing in exchange just another way to scam investors. Exchange demand huge amount for listing nowadays, that's why they never bother to diligence of projects background fairly. But not all exchanges are same, there is some well reputed exchange as well.

Show high volume isn't really very difficult, who know perhaps scammer team trading by themselves in order to attract more traders. And when more traders will in, team could sell their remaining tokens through exchange. That's the way how scamming peoples even after listing on exchange. We can say that was fake volume created by project team. Although all photos are fake, but someone behind of that project. They are doing that shady behaviour.

Yeah, they are often into this  together, both the exchanges and the  ICOs. It would take max 5 minutes to check projects like Datbit to be obvious that something fishy tthere, you don't even have to be expert.

But unfortunately a lot of traders never check anything about tokens/coins they are buying,they believe exchanges. Especially big ones like Binance.
All they are interested in volume, and gain. Some of them will even make some profit, but most of them will loose everything when team decides to dump all tokens.

That's why i mentioned importance of due diligence.
7589  Economy / Scam Accusations / [SCAM] SUPER8 -Highly suspicious, most likely connected with DATBIT scam! on: September 20, 2019, 10:50:52 AM
As it is usually the case, investigating one scam often takes you to another one. And in this one, Datbit brought me to Super8, highly suspicious project that has too many similarities with Datbit scam for it to be just a coincidence.


Super8 website
https://super8.network/index.html
Archive
https://archive.fo/hQfki


New Ann thread
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5176333.msg52502723#msg52502723
Archive
https://archive.fo/epxdR


Old Ann thread
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5158400.msg51600227#msg51600227


So let's start with similarities between those


Super8 team




Datbit team

Similarities between Ashokkumar R.J/Larry Ducles  and Sakib Raj/Margaret L. Ely  descirptions are obvious








Super8 contact info from their WP




Datbit "team member"

Same name as telegram username.A bit too much to be coincidence as well.






Forum user  that started 1st   Super8 Ann (thomassaba)  thread was also shilling Datbit thread, and for that he got negative trust

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1100821




From my experience, this is simply too much to be just coincidence, most likely  it is the same team behind both ICOs.







7590  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Datbit - SCAM ICO - stealing people's identity on: September 20, 2019, 08:43:50 AM
First apologies for replying on a thread that is made almost 1 year ago, but i think that it is important. I was in the middle of scam thread creation when i saw this thread, so might as well share it here.

So, despite Datbit being obvious scam, that didn't stop exchanges from listing it. Among those were BiteBTC, P2PB2B ( they delisted them recently)and TOPBTC. And this last one mentioned, TOPBTC is the only one where Datbit still has volume.
As seen in the ss, DBT/ETH pair has  decent volume, most likely  with some shady practice.






On top of that, there was even a trading competition on TOPBTC, additionally promoting this SCAM and making more people fall for this.


That just shows that we  can't trust exchanges at all. As seen from this example they are not capable ( most likely not willing) to do basic background check before listing and are basically ready  to list just about any ICO that is willing to pay listing fee.

Do your due diligence before buying tokens, trust no one!
7591  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League Discussion Thread on: September 20, 2019, 05:29:06 AM
ROUND 1 RESULTS



Few surprising results last night like Borussia M. loosing against Wolfsberger 0-4, Dudelange beating APOEL away 4:3, CSKA managed to loose 1-5  while leading at the halftime.

Star of the night was  Loris Karius, with yet another brilliant reaction   Shocked
7592  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread on: September 19, 2019, 05:41:27 PM
Incredible first half in Zagreb, Dinamo is completely dominating Atalanta and leads 3:0.

I knew that Dinamo will have chance against Atalanta but i didn't see this coming. They are good team, with one of the best  young players in Europe ( Dani Olmo) but i didn't expect this. I really hope they can continue like that in the 2nd half.

Bare in mind, Atalanta finished 3rd last season in Serie A, while scoring most goals (77) , so they are far from bad team, and that shows how good Dinamo Zagreb can be.




On the end, 4:0 for Dinamo Zagreb  Grin Grin
I believed that Dinamo have chances in this game but this was beyond all expectations.
Now they seem to have a very good chance of being second in the group, behind Manchester.
Olmo is a fantastic player and will soon be worth much more than the current € 40 million euros.
Watch him carefully!
Italian football, with the exception of Juventus, seems to be in deep crisis already long time.



Regarding Dinamo Zagreb being 2nd in the group, while being possible, i don't think that it will happen. They have good chance for being 3rd though and continuing in Europa league. That would also be a very good result.

But maybe i'm just too cautious  as i got used to disappointments when it comes to Dinamo Zagreb and Euro games, i would say that this generation is even better than the one in the late 90s with Viduka, Prosinecki, Cvitanovic..
7593  Other / Off-topic / Re: What can the world do with 1.5 billion waste tyres? on: September 19, 2019, 04:19:30 PM
Isn't tires? LoL
recycling tires is bad for environment aswell. I heard one of the car companies has made tires that can lasts 10x as much as a regular tires

Tyres is correct spelling too, it  is mainly used by Brits.

OT  

Seems like in Africa they make sandals out of tires

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1f5Oi1fpWbw
7594  Other / Meta / Re: The future of Bitcointalk: Low Ranking Top Merit earners in the past 30 days on: September 19, 2019, 11:16:57 AM
It's nice to see myself ranked 3rd among Jr Member merit earners, i must say that i'm pleasantly surprised. I read a lot of qq about merit system and that is impossible to rank nowadays, but this list shows  it otherwise.

This  kind of list is incentive for others that it is possible to earn decent amount of merits even if you are lower rank.
7595  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Zbirni topic za davanje merita za kvalitetne postove on: September 19, 2019, 10:59:00 AM
 Jedna scam prijava od neki dan


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5185429.msg52481374#msg52481374
7596  Local / Altcoins (Hrvatski) / Re: 🍀🍀 Bounty kampanje Altcoin – Signature, Telegram 🍀🍀 on: September 19, 2019, 06:17:56 AM
Jel zna biti i kampanja koje primaju Jr Member i Member rankove, ili je uglavnom Full Member minimum za te BTC kampanje?

Tesko. Trenutno nema ni jedna. Sa zadnjom izmenom i uvodjenjem merita, jr rank prakticno nije ni u razmisljanju. Za member postoje, mislim da windice i rocketpot imaju svake nedelje otvoreno po par member mesta
Sve kampanje mozes videti ovde https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=615953.msg52456450#msg52456450
Prati taj thread, azuriraju ga svakodnevno.

Hvala, budem pratio to.

I mislio sam da Jr Member ni ne primaju, ali ajd bar je moguce upast sa Member rankom, nije ni to lose za pocetak.
7597  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread on: September 18, 2019, 07:56:20 PM
Incredible first half in Zagreb, Dinamo is completely dominating Atalanta and leads 3:0.

I knew that Dinamo will have chance against Atalanta but i didn't see this coming. They are good team, with one of the best  young players in Europe ( Dani Olmo) but i didn't expect this. I really hope they can continue like that in the 2nd half.

Bare in mind, Atalanta finished 3rd last season in Serie A, while scoring most goals (77) , so they are far from bad team, and that shows how good Dinamo Zagreb can be.


7598  Local / Altcoins (Hrvatski) / Re: 🍀🍀 Bounty kampanje Altcoin – Signature, Telegram 🍀🍀 on: September 18, 2019, 03:21:22 PM
Jel zna biti i kampanja koje primaju Jr Member i Member rankove, ili je uglavnom Full Member minimum za te BTC kampanje?
7599  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Da li trebamo moderatora u hrvatskoj sekciji foruma? on: September 18, 2019, 03:12:24 PM
Da li se vec dogadjalo da se brisu i ukidaju Ann sekcije na nekom lokalnom podforumu?

Bas gledam Grcki dio, totalno mrtvilo tamo, pogotovo Ann dio, i nikom nista.
7600  Other / Politics & Society / Re: We are living in the best period known to man! on: September 18, 2019, 10:52:29 AM

A cave man who has all his needs of life fulfilled, and sits comfortably on his log or stone chair covered with soft skins, at the entrance to his cave, and enjoys as he watches the rain gently coming down, has way more peace than a bunch of jokers who are trying to get through traffic twice a day, and scrambling to make ends meet, go to an early grave because of stress.


If cave man had it so great, why don't you sell all your belongings and try to live that kind of life. Simply give up on all the progress we made through thousands of years and live stress free and relaxed lifestyle. If that sounds so appealing to you, try it, and  let's see how long will you last.

There are hermits that live that kind of life, be one of them if that is so great, put your money where your mouth is Cheesy
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