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7261  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: More time as a newbie on: November 07, 2019, 03:30:32 PM
The newer 'merit' system means you will be spending likely more time as a newbie.  Previously it was possible to rank up to Jr. Member and then to regular Member status in a matter of several months depending on how active you were.  Now it could take longer than that.  This should be good for the forum as it will bring less spam, low quality posts.

Any decent poster will reach Jr Member in couple of months at the most, and anyone that fails in achieving that is seriously dedicated to one-liners and shitposting, and system is designed exactly for that reason- to prevent those kind of users achieving higher ranks.

By the look of your post history, you fall in that group, writing one-liners with minimum effort, so no wonder you are still stuck at newbie rank. Once again merit system proves working in your case, as unless you change your posting habits you will stay at low rank for quite some time.
7262  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2020 NBA Season on: November 07, 2019, 09:12:41 AM

I'll be damn surprised if they will apply load management to PG as well when he gets back to the court.

You can bet on that, they will continue to do that as they simply have team good enough to reach PO while occasionally resting their stars. And yes, it is annoying AF, imagine paying ticket to watch game, and then you see best players missing because "load management". But i understand teams doing that, end goal is winning NBA title and not to have most wins at the end of regular season. Will be interesting to see whether that hurts NBA in the long run, if others start massively doing the same thing.

I watched Jazz vs 76s last night.When you look at score , it seems like a close win, but actually Jazz was much better and they controlled the game. 76s will never be real contenders without having proper shooters, and when you add on that fact that one of their main players  Simmons can't shoot, things are not looking good for them. How can you be nr1 player in the draft, PG/Forward and having issues with basic stuff like 3pts shooting is beyond me..
7263  Local / Altcoins (Hrvatski) / Re: 🍀🍀 Bounty kampanje Altcoin – Signature, Telegram 🍀🍀 on: November 07, 2019, 08:25:52 AM
Čini mi se da je opet neka muljaža u pitanju. Provjerio sam na Coinbene taj MZG/USDT par i vidim da opet imaju hrpu trejdova s orderima koji uopće nisu u order booku. Osim toga, deposit i withdraw MZG tokena će biti moguć od 14. studenog pa pretpostavljam da je ovo sad samo umjetno pumpanje volumena.

Znači od danas se može povući MZG token s Levelo accounta (za sad još nije omogućeno; valjda će biti tokom dana), ali s njim ne možeš ništa. Eventualno postaviti order na ForkDelti ali vidim da je tamo volumen nikakav što samo potvrđuje moje sumnje da je volumen na Coinbene umjetno napumpan.

Ne bi me uopce iznenadilo da ta ekipa iz Moozicore mulja sa volumenom. Bas sam neki dan prijavio grupu Ann thread bumpera , i medju njihovim klijentima nasao se i Moozicore. Pa ako su spremni placati shillanje na bitcointalku, mislim da bi bili spremni i na fejkanje volumena da privuku jos ljudi.

Da sam na vasem mjestu ja bi dumpao te tokene sto je prije moguce. Bar ja to radim sa tim shitcoinima.
7264  Other / Meta / Re: Ann thread bumping group on: November 06, 2019, 12:56:50 PM
From what i noticed usually these things are done during IEO/ICO period, but there are  cases where this ann bumping thing goes on after that period. Perfect example of that is Cocos BCX.  99% of their Ann thread is filled with newbie spam, while they are already listed on Binance. I simply don't understand why is that going on there, it's not like they really need that kind of exposure, it can only have counter effect.


And about a thread you referred to:
I just checked their website. Their bounty is still going on and there are some tasks offered to people. They are likely spending money for posting on their ANN thread too.


Yeah i thought the same thing when i saw bounty section on their website, so i registered to have access, and i from what i could see they don't have bounty for that. Oh well, whatever is going on there, it doesn't help them much.



Thank you for the suggestion, I will look into that. I noticed @LoyceV makes those things and they seem very convenient, but i wondered how exactly he does that.
I just download the profile, and get the data from there. That's it Smiley
If you get me a list of userIDs, I'll get you a human readable list.

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I thought about posting some of things like this to SpamBuster Club's thread, but then i saw i need at least 300 reports, and I am quite far away from that number.
It's not a very strict requirement to post in that thread.

Ok good to know, I might ask for permission to join that thread when i stumble upon something Wink
7265  Other / Meta / Re: Ann thread bumping group on: November 06, 2019, 11:01:23 AM
If you ask me, Meta is the place, often when I report the ann thread bumping spammers, the Ann threads get deleted and/or some of the bumping accounts get banned/nuked.
Keep it here,better exposure to mod's attention.

Alright, gonna keep it here then, thanks for the input.




It just goes to show how little research the projects that hire these services do in terms of their marketing... They never even realize its a waste of money. They just get sold on the idea that it needs to be done, and throw money at it. To me, this lack of attentiveness is a sign of a scam project, who I believe are the main customers of this type of service... Its the same reason why scams plagiarize their white papers, website content and hastily produce fake teams -- they are in it for the short term only.

From what i noticed usually these things are done during IEO/ICO period, but there are  cases where this ann bumping thing goes on after that period. Perfect example of that is Cocos BCX.  99% of their Ann thread is filled with newbie spam, while they are already listed on Binance. I simply don't understand why is that going on there, it's not like they really need that kind of exposure, it can only have counter effect.



    10. Full Member coin_1122 (Trust: neutral) (1 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
    11. Sr. Member Btc_1856 (Trust: neutral) (BPIP)

    14. Full Member crustycrab666 (Trust: neutral) (1 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
    15. Full Member dongosquad (Trust: neutral) (0 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)

I'm probably making a giant understatement here, but a lot of these sig spammers seem to be following each other's posts and posting in the same threads. I see the same names appear constantly in the same threads. Makes me believe that many of them are one and the same person.

In the cases quoted above, it's even more obvious: coin_1122 and BTC_1856 have the user numbers 925742 resp. 925744, and crustycrab666 and dongosquad are 995891 resp. 995892.

I suppose the numbers are created in order of forum subscription?

Although I'm no member of the Spambusters Club, I've been welcomed to report these user IDs on the SpamBusters Club's thread. Simply send the IDs to LoyceV who will convert them for you, like in my quotes above.

Just a friendly suggestion, Rikafip. (edit: and by the way, good job  Cheesy)

Thank you for the suggestion, I will look into that. I noticed @LoyceV makes those things and they seem very convenient, but i wondered how exactly he does that. I thought about posting some of things like this to SpamBuster Club's thread, but then i saw i need at least 300 reports, and I am quite far away from that number.
7266  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Mjesečna Analiza za Hrvatsku Lokalnu Zajednicu (Bitcointalk Croatian) on: November 06, 2019, 10:23:11 AM

Da li netko vodi mjesečnu /tjednu ili kakvu već evidenciju koliko se piše u pojedinim lokalnim boardovima? Baš sam malo tražio i ne mogu ništa slično naći, al zato ima sto  tema  o merit statistici.

7267  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Zbirni topic za davanje merita za kvalitetne postove on: November 06, 2019, 07:43:33 AM
Jedna moja proslomjesecna prijava, ponzi je imao signature bounty kampanju na bitcointalk forumu. Sto je najgore ekipa je i radila taj bounty iako je ocito rijec bilo o ponziju, ali placanje u ETH je izgleda ipak bilo primamljivije. Kreator je nakon 2 tjedna i negativnog trusta izbrisao post, ali ipak ih se stigao prijaviti solidan broj.


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5192350.msg52734858#msg52734858



Dobra prijava,  dobio si merit.
Tko je slijedeći?  😁

Vidim da se nitko ne prijavljuje zadnjih dana , pa rekoh da ti ne propadne merit a ja uvijek imam par postova spremnih Cheesy

Bas gledam sad onaj post sto si napisao na meti. Znaci ti si jedini merit source trenutno ovdje? Bas steta sto smo izgubili toga koji je imao 100 merita, dosta bi to pomoglo onima koji ne pisu puno izvan lokalnog dijela.
7268  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] MYFIE - Monetize Your Selfie on: November 06, 2019, 07:16:35 AM
Oh man, now ive seen everything Cheesy
Maybe this works, omg tho how many people are workin on this?
theres like 20 people listed on your team on your site, if this is legit, it HAS to work, how could that many mother fuckers fail? Tongue
too cringy for me tho!


You should check their previous project, SWAT coin, that managed to fail, as same team is behind both of these projects. Now it seems that they have new version of SWAT coin. 

Additionally, SWAT coin OP was even involved in merit abuse
SWAT coin Ann: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3308625.0

If you check SWAT coin ann thread  you will see bunch of low rank shillers spamming that thread. I would personally stay away from this as far as possible.
7269  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Zbirni topic za davanje merita za kvalitetne postove on: November 06, 2019, 06:08:35 AM
Jedna moja proslomjesecna prijava, ponzi je imao signature bounty kampanju na bitcointalk forumu. Sto je najgore ekipa je i radila taj bounty iako je ocito rijec bilo o ponziju, ali placanje u ETH je izgleda ipak bilo primamljivije. Kreator je nakon 2 tjedna i negativnog trusta izbrisao post, ali ipak ih se stigao prijaviti solidan broj.


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5192350.msg52734858#msg52734858

7270  Other / Off-topic / Re: VPN for Netflix watching on: November 05, 2019, 06:55:27 PM
All this trouble to be able to pay Netflix and pay a VPN provider, and you wonder why people go back to torrents. On a second thought, those "blocked" countries usually don't bother prosecuting downloaders.

For example Cuba State television broadcasts movies and series downloaded online (you can sometimes spot the release group name), and they even have an specific "movies" channel. Same thing occurs in my country on a somewhat smaller scale (also State owned television). Of course you can go to the street (yeah its not prosecuted, they have formal shops and all) and buy optical media (BD or DVD) from material downloaded online, this is the most used path for the poor, without good internet or tv subscription. And even with "good" (not capped) internet, its often too slow for live streaming anyway, but you can wait a day or so for a movie to download here. Oh and i don't think a 6 USD monthly wage is good enough to pay Netflix 8 USD + VPN...

I think this mess is due to the lawyers and "IP rights" managing people. Sometimes, rarely they see reason and relax restrictions, such when dealing with the mighty Chinese market (where they can't prosecute people anyway).

I don't think anyone but some lawyers in Netflix want to block countries, but its probably stepping on someone Else's profits, the hypocrisy of it all is nauseating. Then again Netflix also does it to others with their own content, due to "commercial agreements".

When i find myself with good internet, i end playing online games rather than watching movies anyway. They have to compete with that market segment too, oh and the tons of free streaming, where even esports live streams are gaining worldwide popularity.

This is the music downloads thing all over again, how Napster (as trashy as that was) disrupted the labels model. Now its the movie studios model that has become obsolete. And people in the States are cutting subscription tv en mass, switching to streaming or going elsewhere (ie online games and back to on air "free tv").

Yeah things with streaming service are getting out of hand. Every year we have new ones coming, and the old ones loosing content. Now we will get AppleTV, Disney+, AT&T announced new streaming service, NBCUniversal, BBC Disocovery etc..

Until recently i was paying Amazon, Hulu and Netflix as i wanted legal and quality content, but for the last few months i only have Netflix left. That and ExpressVPN is enough at the moment.

All this mess on the market will just make people go back to torrenting.
7271  Local / Altcoins (Hrvatski) / Re: FOOTBATTLE - Besplatna AI nogometna igra (menađer) na Ethereum mreži! on: November 05, 2019, 05:36:04 PM
Razmišljam u zadnje vrijeme možda probati tu igru, ali bojim se da se ne navučem. Od 1997 do jedno 2005 sam ozbiljno bio zakačen prvo na Championship Manager pa onda na Football Manager.

Jel vremenski zahtjevna igra, ili je ipak jednostavnije i ok za casual igrača?
7272  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Kupuju li se guest postovi u ovoj industriji? on: November 05, 2019, 05:31:19 PM
Moram priznati da nemam pojma o čemu se radi, ali bilo bi mi drago da nam objasniš... Mislim da ima dosta ljudi koji ne znaju što su guest postovi s dofollow linkom, ali 30 do 200 € nije za baciti Grin

Mislim da to ovako funkcionira: klijent plati steelmaidena da napise neki post/article na popularnom websajtu, a unutar tog posta je link na klijentovu web stranicu (dofollow link), i onda se se dio prometa preusmjerava na klijentov sajt, povecavajuci google page rank, cineci ga lakse uocljivim.

Nek me netko ispravi ako imam krivo razumijevanje kako ovo funkcionira.

Zanimljivo 😀
Ja sam prije par tjedana dobio ponudu od 1 korisnika foruma da mi piše postove za moju signature kampanju i da dijelimo zaradu 😁
Naravno,  odbio sam ga.
Mislio sam da se radi o tome ali ovo što si objasnio ima dosta smisla.

Kakva ingeniozna ideja, a šta bi ti uopće mogao sa time dobiti, osim 50% manje BTC od kampanje? I eventualno ban zbog kopiranja sadržaja.

Baš ne kužim logiku tog prijedloga. Vjerojatno zato što i nema logike Cheesy
7273  Other / Meta / Ann thread bumping group on: November 05, 2019, 07:35:23 AM
While checking something else, i found group of at least 16 accounts that are following each other through various Ann threads. All of those are currently active in the Dreamr Ann thread. There are more accounts that are doing similar thing in that thread, as they managed to churn out more than 1300 posts  in month and a half, but these accounts were most active in other threads as well, with strongest connections.





Ann threads
Dreamr     http://archive.md/OyUrK
Bitmax      https://archive.ph/pFvYJ
Elynet       http://archive.md/o33P1
Bitmovio   http://archive.md/kAGIT
Moozicore http://archive.md/PgnPh
Mitoshi     https://archive.ph/
Bow coin   http://archive.md/DclEE
Hiway       https://archive.ph/CspIj
Minedblocked  https://archive.ph/9ZPle
Imp          http://archive.md/Nefce
Bora         http://archive.md/QuH1W
Contentos   http://archive.md/iJd7T
Transburn   http://archive.ph/ddbZ4
STP Network   http://archive.ph/LbOuY


Accounts
Nathan01
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1306917
https://archive.ph/GdCmc

ning_aric
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=205747
http://archive.md/0DDH5

Kinkadeinspired
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1271035
http://archive.md/QKWNF

gee777
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1248811
https://archive.ph/kyVfN

em777
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2039514
https://archive.md/71dEn

Anilbg
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1269653
https://archive.ph/P9uEX

jumiapaul
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2289747
https://archive.ph/tD9hG

nwosuchristabe2
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1634139
https://archive.ph/JANwr

charlop24
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1893700
https://archive.ph/cl6XS

Ace44
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=934247
https://archive.ph/E7qpj

Getadaaa
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2320825
https://archive.ph/lJ337

kriszz50983
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2613561
https://archive.ph/CJnjz

Pricebrianer
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2320512
https://archive.ph/IZlnJ

Sozialtourist
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1067257
http://archive.md/4Vnm4

Cnote112
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2291874
https://archive.ph/cd0rV

Mrcharles
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1436577
https://archive.ph/5uGK0

Olorijayz
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2496538
https://archive.md/QlgOd


Accounts are from Jr Member to Full Member rank. It is fair to say that their posts are not classic one-liners, but their goal is the same, to create buzz and interest with fake conversations.


Apologies if i made thread in wrong section, but i saw these kind of threads in Meta, Scam accusation and Reputation sections, so i wasn't sure where exactly to share this.









7274  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Kupuju li se guest postovi u ovoj industriji? on: November 05, 2019, 06:30:16 AM
Moram priznati da nemam pojma o čemu se radi, ali bilo bi mi drago da nam objasniš... Mislim da ima dosta ljudi koji ne znaju što su guest postovi s dofollow linkom, ali 30 do 200 € nije za baciti Grin

Mislim da to ovako funkcionira: klijent plati steelmaidena da napise neki post/article na popularnom websajtu, a unutar tog posta je link na klijentovu web stranicu (dofollow link), i onda se se dio prometa preusmjerava na klijentov sajt, povecavajuci google page rank, cineci ga lakse uocljivim.

Nek me netko ispravi ako imam krivo razumijevanje kako ovo funkcionira.
7275  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Zentoshi- Shilling their own Ann thread on: November 04, 2019, 08:36:11 AM
I think these explanations pretty much explain the situation. Guess this "case" can be considered solved…?

Not quite yet.

If you check these 2 accounts that wrote few messages in Zentoshi Ann thread, you will see that they write in same Ann threads consistently, and with them mostly the same group of accounts, pretending to have conversation.

Nathan01
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1306917
https://archive.ph/GdCmc

ning_aric
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=205747
http://archive.md/0DDH5


So we have 2 Ann thread bumpers/shillers coming to Zentoshi Ann thread by coincidence?
7276  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ZenX] Zentoshi - Cutting Edge Technology meets Business - Launches Nov. 7 on: November 04, 2019, 08:18:07 AM
So you claim that you are not shilling your Ann, but the moment people started asking about it, newbies suddenly disappeared. How convenient.

I am still here, I have been monitoring this thread to see how the team handled and resolved it. You all have pointed out many concerns and criticisms that seem to hold some validity. I felt that I should withdraw myself for a while until things resolved themselves.

Since the beginning of the investigation I've been reading and following conversation in the thread to see where it all leads. To the best of my knowledge I've been on Zentoshi Discord for sometime and true to their words they've done most things by the books. I really can't fault them in any way since it might be a genuine oversight.

I'm not paid shill. In fact this is like my 3rd comment since the start of the thread. Not really active in the thread. I'm a concerned participant in both telegram and discord.

Do have a nice day dear senior members. Plus I love all questions and concerns raised and cleared.

Huge majority of your last 100 posts were made in these   altcoin threads:

Dreamr
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5186091.0
http://archive.md/OyUrK

Bitmax
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5066589.0
https://archive.ph/pFvYJ

Elynet
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5185512.0
http://archive.md/o33P1

Bitmovio
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5192272.0
http://archive.md/kAGIT

What is interesting that all those threads have same group of Ann bumpers/shillers talking among themselves. Among others  is your other  friend from Zentoshi thread, ning_aric. Bare in mind this is just from last 100 posts, when i check a bit more back i found more threads with same group of people.

Is this all just a coincidence, that same accounts go around and write in same Ann threads?
7277  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2020 NBA Season on: November 03, 2019, 09:35:18 PM
Gonna wake up early  to watch Clippers vs Jazz. Few days ago Jazz managed to beat Kawhi-less Clippers, but he will be back for this game. I am thinking about taking   Clippers at -4.5 tonight and to add Pacers  at -1.5 against Bulls.

Spurs vs Lakers might be interesting as well, but i think I will skip that one as it might go either way.
7278  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: November 03, 2019, 09:03:39 PM
Brand New !!!!!!!!!!!!!  Bye,Bye Nico Kovac. who will be the new coach in munich  Huh  
Hansi Flick ? Erik ten Hag ? or Mauricio Pochettino ? Ralf Rangnick  Grin Grin Grin , Don Jupp  Huh José Mourinho  Wink Wink

IS there any realy source for that Bayern Munich has kicked Nico Kovac.
Or is just an rumor about some news today because of the game yesterday when they got 5 goals.
I would say maybe Lothar Matthäus would be nice , lol just kidding .  Cheesy

Yep, it is official





Not a surprise really, something had to be done, and it is always easiest and cheapest to replace the coach. It is fair to say that he never really had much support from key people in the club, and it must have been very hard to work for him in that kind of atmosphere.

I wish he stayed at Eintracht  for few more years, but i am sure it would be very hard to reject club as big as Bayern, no coach at his position would refuse that offer.

7279  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Zentoshi- Shilling their own Ann thread on: November 03, 2019, 04:46:48 PM
Hello,

I'm not a "shilling" service. I work for Stakenet and have done for nearly 2 years now.

When they launched their ANN thread I did indeed make 2 posts on it to give it a bump up to help give it some visibility.



Hi there

I don't think that anyone would question your intentions if you are just active on the thread, but if a team member start asking questions about the project he is part of, and then other team member answering, it will be seen as Ann thread bumping , or something similar. Especially if it is combined by bunch of newbie accounts doing the same thing.



One thing is shilling, another is making some tactical question to rise people curiosity.
Each project has to emerge somehow, and i honestly prefer this kind of approach to the classical fomo-boy who tries to lure you into sh.. amefull projects

I repeat, shilling and doing marketing are different worlds.
The first one necessarily includes to lie, the second maybe not (and this is not the case if you read Yankee interventions).

If you do not know the difference, maybe it's time to question yourself before opening threads.
Sorry for being harsh, i just think you should spend your time by denouncing REAL shilling cases.

@Rikafip


Those "tactical questions" as you called them is standard practice of Ann thread bumpers, and it is dishonest tactic, and is something that is frowned upon on this forum, accounts involved in that regularly get tagged.

Maybe this is the case of Ann thread bumping, not shilling, but it still something that is not advisable if you want your project to be taken seriously.

7280  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Zentoshi- Shilling their own Ann thread on: November 03, 2019, 01:26:23 PM
Where does the info come from that Cameron has the yankee Twitter handle?

I know Yankee from StakeNet and he's a decent person. Can't imagine him being involved with such shady stuff. Gonna link him to this thread.

As you can see that's what Zentoshi team said, and they shared those reddit and twitter handles.
If you check his twitter, you will see that he is indeed sharing StakeNet tweets, and 2 days ago he retweeted Zentoshi tweet.
Maybe Zentoshi team put him as their team member without him knowing, things like that happen.
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