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7501  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: September 30, 2019, 05:30:07 AM
Well, now Milan is mathematically a risk on Seria A, if they continue on this way they can fight for not going on Serie B.

Anyway, Ribery is still in good shape even if he is 36.

This is the second part of the leaderboard, not a good spot for them.



It certainly doesn't look good for them, they have worst start in 81 years, but i don't think that they will fight for survival in Serie A.

There are plenty of games left, and Serie A sadly  is not as competitive  as it was  so i think that they still have time to turn this around, especially if they sack Giampaolo.
7502  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: September 29, 2019, 08:49:54 PM
Currently Fiorentina leading with 2 goals. With las 10 minutes, I think AC Milan will making lost 3 matches in arrow. If Elliot really like AC Milan, i think he will bring reputable coach.

Yep, third loss in a row for Milan, and  this time 1-3.

I don't think that Marco Giampaolo will stay much longer as head coach. Milan has to do something, and they have to do it as soon as possible, as this is embarrassing.
7503  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Did we actually really land on moon? on: September 29, 2019, 07:59:05 AM
Ok, let`s forget all conspiracy theories, let`s focus on just one question. How the hell is possible that man landed on moon in 1969, and never again after that? Is it possible that technology in 1969 was more advanced then now? How can that be possible? Can someone explain me how the hell you can compare `69 and now?
I`m sure that man never landed on moon! But I think we should congratulate the Americans on one of the greatest tricks ever performed, it`s not easy to do that! To organize all that people to do all that and trick entire world! They did it, well done! How huge that trick is shows that people still discuss it, after 50 years!

What are you talking about, NASA successfully managed to land man on the moon 6 times, and overall 12 astronauts walked on the surface of the Moon.

1.Apollo 11, 1969
2.Apollo 12, 1969
3.Apollo 14, 1971
4.Apollo 15, 1971
5.Apollo 16, 1972
6.Apollo 17, 1972


Just to add,  "How can that be possible?" is a common logical fallacy known as Argument from Incredulity , and it is very popular among those that don't believe Moon landing ever happened.

7504  Local / Altcoins (Hrvatski) / Re: Greyp Bikes, tvrtka Mate Rimca pokrece prodaju digitalnih dionickih tokena (ETO) on: September 29, 2019, 06:57:19 AM
Navodno vise od 2000 whitelistanih investitora za sada, i preko 1M eura obvezano uloziti.

https://novac.jutarnji.hr/novi-svijet/u-greypove-digitalne-tokene-najvise-ulazu-hrvati-a-slijede-i-nijemci/9411596/

Stvarno nemam pojma zasto bi netko tko imalo prati crypto  ulozio u firmu koja godinama posluje negativno, i jos ce slijedecih par godina te prodaje mizernu kolicinu bicikala. Bar se crypto ekipa nagledala svakojakih obecanja u zadnjih par godina.

Firma planira poslovati u plusu tek 2022, puno su vece sanse da ce do tada BTC ( pa cak i ETH) biti na x5-x10 do tada nego sto ce Greyp biti   bitan faktor na trzistu, ali valjda svatko ima pravo uloziti u svoj prvi  shitcoin, pa ko zna, mozda kasnije i uzmu BTC.
7505  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Another Private Message in Telegram! on: September 29, 2019, 06:37:16 AM
With my experience in the telegram, no one going to offer good things from random. Then you don't have to think about that. Definitely they are spam or going to scam you. The be careful with random telegram private messages.

That sums it up really.

If someone you don't know send you PM on Telegram, simply delete and report it, you don't even have to check it out as it is a scam. At least that's what I'm doing with all those annoying PMs i am getting every day.
7506  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Bitcoin and casinos on: September 28, 2019, 09:16:46 PM
I have worked for a few years in a casino and I couldn't help but imagine that people should be able to gamble with bitcoin.

Is it already happening? - I don't mean on the internet

And do you think this will be future of casinos?

I think i saw some projects being attempted, for full crypto based casino, but as far as i know, they all failed. It was back in 2017, during that hype.

While i agree that crypto will be used in the future for sure in physicl casino, i am not sure that we reached that point yet, where casino can be completely crypto based, and accept only cryptocurrencies, no fiat.
For  that we need crypto to be mainstream, and unfortunately we are not there yet, but atleast we have online casinos, you have to start somewhere after all.
7507  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread (EPL) on: September 28, 2019, 04:32:21 PM
^  Are you really watching?  It's already the second half.  Still no goals.  Lol.


Liverpool really let me down in the game, it seems their attacking trio isn't as formidable that we believe them to be. Almost all my other picks seems to have gone well and am waiting for the Everton Man City game to find out if only Liverpool were the cause of me not wining today.

This was just one of those days when whole team plays bad, including their best players, it happens. What is important though, is that Liverpool took 3 points, and they continue having perfect score. No one will remember today's performance in a few weeks.

In the end, this just shows me that this team is matured and ready to become EPL champion, as even when they are not playing best, they still keep winning, and that's trait of champions.
7508  Local / Altcoins (Hrvatski) / Re: 🍀🍀 Bounty kampanje Altcoin – Signature, Telegram 🍀🍀 on: September 28, 2019, 03:13:28 PM
Evo i ja  sinoc upao u svoju prvu kampanju, Bitvest Smiley

Jos sam imao i dosta srece, jer je bilo jedno slobodno mjesto u tieru D, tako da bar ne moram krenuti od zadnjeg tiera, razlika u isplati izmedju ta dva je poprilicna.

Eto, svaka čast. Ja sam sjeban jer imam visok rang za koji se prijavila hrpa ljudi i vjerojatno trenutno dobivaš istu ili čak i veću lovu po postu od mene (na mobu sam pa mi se ne da provjeravati iznose koje plaćaju).

A da, bas gledam, ja dobijam 50% vise nego ti a dosta sam manji rank. Jebiga, treba i srece imat, ja sam eto upao na zadnje slobodno mjestu u tieru D, nadam se da ces i ti napredovati dalje.

E sad imam jedno pitanje: sto se dogodi ako ja jednog dana dodjem do Full Membera , da  li to znaci da idem dolje u nizi tier , tj prvi slobodni gdje ima mjesta? I ako vidim da bi tako dobijao manje, da li se moze ostati kao Member?

Prva 4 tiera se znatno razlikuju po zaradi od ovog tiera E, i pomalo mi djeluju kao neko čistilište  Grin Grin
Što se tiče promijene ranka u kampanji, ne znam koliko ti se to uopće isplati jer nisu tako velike razlike u plaćanju.
Koliko znam, morao bi poslati zahtjev manageru ali gotovo sam siguran da bi njegov odgovor bio da on ne može nikoga od postojećih članova u višem ranku micati da bi tebi napravio mjesta i da jedino možeš krenuti ispočetka, iz tiera E višeg ranka, što ti se ne bi isplatilo, barem ne kratkoročno.
Manager je po takvim pitanjima principjelan i onaj koji je dugo s njim u kampanji, i ''dokazao'' se, ima zagarantirano mjesto u svom tieru i ne može ići dolje i gubti svoju poziciju i zaradu, samo gore kada se na prirodan način oslobodi mjesto.

Ma nebi sigurno mijenjao rank ako ne moram, pogotovo ako se dosta manje zaradi, nego sam mozda mislio ako u tijeku kampanje dodjem na Full Member rank da cu biti "prisiljen"  automatski zauzeti prvo slobodno mjesto za Full Membera, ali ako to nije slucaj, jos bolje.

Ima dosta vremena do toga, al eto cisto da znam za buducnost, da ne bi bilo nismo znali Cheesy
7509  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Diversified investment or concentrated investment ? on: September 28, 2019, 11:09:55 AM
It makes no sense to "diversify" in assets which are totally correlated. As mentioned above, you will only increase your risk and volatility.

Take a look at this graphic, from coinmarketcap, that I took from this website (https://smartereum.com/1887/ethereum-bitcoin-ripple-cardano-cryptocurrency-prices-going/)


If you look carefully, youi will see that the graphics are all the same, so it makes no sense to diversify here.


Damn, you got me, for a second i thought BTC is back at 11k+ Cheesy

@OP

Makes no sense to diversify unless you are very experienced trader that is doing day trading or some other short term trading. For 99% of the crypto enthusiast, BTC is best and safest bet.You may miss maybe some crazy short term pumps of those alt coins, but you will make it up when things go down, and they will.

So buy some BTC, store it in your hardware wallet and that's it.
7510  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2019 NBA Season on: September 28, 2019, 11:01:21 AM
They are just bunch of not bad players all together, mike Conley is not the best pg, Spida is not the best sg, crowder is not the best sf, favors is not the best pf, gobert is not the best C,
I don't think that anyone is thinking of the Jazz as top 2-3 favorites to win the title, but with current roster they are simply one of the contenders, most lists put them in top 8
Yeah! They are just combination of good players which seems not very solid compare to the starters of teams like Lakers and Nets but who knows? Maybe they got a  surprising chemistry like GSW have in their early days where their main asset is only the Splash Brothers. I still believe in the saying "There is no I in team", basketball needs more of teamplays rather than monstrous all stars Smiley.

Anyway, about on the possible teams we can look forward this upcoming season, my picks would be Nets, Lakers, Clippers (I'm getting excited to see if Kawhi can carry this team with the help of PG) and GSW.

Well if you consider it, the raptors didn't have any of the top caliber players in the league last year except for kawhi. You don't need to have the top players in every position to be a contender. All you need to have is  a system that can make the 5 players on the floor efficient. The jazz are capable of being a team like that. Favorites, no. Contenders, definitely.

Truth to be told, Raptors had pretty good  team even without Kawhi, but they often choked in PO. With him that was different team, me made them better than they are, and that's the quality of best players, to make their teammates  better.

Jazz don't have that kind of star that can push them to title, but it won't be easy for anyone against them and it will be interesting to watch them.
7511  Local / Altcoins (Hrvatski) / Re: 🍀🍀 Bounty kampanje Altcoin – Signature, Telegram 🍀🍀 on: September 28, 2019, 09:33:40 AM
Evo i ja  sinoc upao u svoju prvu kampanju, Bitvest Smiley

Jos sam imao i dosta srece, jer je bilo jedno slobodno mjesto u tieru D, tako da bar ne moram krenuti od zadnjeg tiera, razlika u isplati izmedju ta dva je poprilicna.

Eto, svaka čast. Ja sam sjeban jer imam visok rang za koji se prijavila hrpa ljudi i vjerojatno trenutno dobivaš istu ili čak i veću lovu po postu od mene (na mobu sam pa mi se ne da provjeravati iznose koje plaćaju).

A da, bas gledam, ja dobijam 50% vise nego ti a dosta sam manji rank. Jebiga, treba i srece imat, ja sam eto upao na zadnje slobodno mjestu u tieru D, nadam se da ces i ti napredovati dalje.

E sad imam jedno pitanje: sto se dogodi ako ja jednog dana dodjem do Full Membera , da  li to znaci da idem dolje u nizi tier , tj prvi slobodni gdje ima mjesta? I ako vidim da bi tako dobijao manje, da li se moze ostati kao Member?
7512  Local / Altcoins (Hrvatski) / Re: 🍀🍀 Bounty kampanje Altcoin – Signature, Telegram 🍀🍀 on: September 28, 2019, 06:58:14 AM
Evo i ja  sinoc upao u svoju prvu kampanju, Bitvest Smiley

Jos sam imao i dosta srece, jer je bilo jedno slobodno mjesto u tieru D, tako da bar ne moram krenuti od zadnjeg tiera, razlika u isplati izmedju ta dva je poprilicna.
7513  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling as a profession: there's people who live out of gambling? on: September 28, 2019, 05:53:55 AM
As far as I know you can't classify the gambling as profession. The only way you can earn through this is that if you were the owner or you have huge amount of luck. Apparently, gambling is supposedly for entertainment not for profit due to the fact that you have a low chance of winning. But this is just my opinon, I haven't encounter any professional gambler so this is the only I can say regard this.

When you are professional gambler, that means it is your profession, and you are doing it full time. You even pay special taxes on it. At least in the United States, it would be interesting to see how it is in some other countries.

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The professional gambler reports gambling winnings and losses for federal purposes on Schedule C, Profit or Loss From Business. To compute his or her business income, the professional gambler may net all wagering activity but cannot report an overall wagering loss. In addition, the taxpayer may deduct "ordinary and necessary" business expenses (expenses other than wagers) incurred in connection with the business.

Whether a gambler is an amateur or a professional for tax purposes is based on the "facts and circumstances." In Groetzinger, 480 U.S. 23 (1987), the Supreme Court established the professional gambler standard: "If one's gambling activity is pursued full time, in good faith, and with regularity, to the production of income for a livelihood, and is not a mere hobby, it is a trade or business." The burden is on the gambler to prove this status.
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7514  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2019 NBA Season on: September 28, 2019, 05:31:08 AM
I still think people are over hyping Utah Jazz, they are not as good as people think they are. Sure, they have some good players but they are not a great team all together, chemistry plays a big role plus having a system helps a ton as well.

They are just bunch of not bad players all together, mike Conley is not the best pg, Spida is not the best sg, crowder is not the best sf, favors is not the best pf, gobert is not the best C, they are people who have zero best players in their positions and probably not even top 5 in most of them as well. I would say clippers have a big chance of getting it this year if they don't get injured, which would put Kawhi into one of the biggest jumps of player rankings ever, I would start to see him as top 20 ever in history if he gets it this year as well.

I don't think that anyone is thinking of the Jazz as top 2-3 favorites to win the title, but with current roster they are simply one of the contenders, most lists put them in top 8, and when you look at their roster, they deserve that at least.They had one of the best defense last year, and on top of that, they added more scoring options, so unless something unexpected happens, they should have good playoff run.

7515  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2019 NBA Season on: September 27, 2019, 07:32:32 AM
1. LA Clippers
2. LA Lakers
3. Golden State Warriors
4. Philadelphia 76ers
5. Milwaukee Bucks
6. Utah Jazz
7. Houston Rockets

I have no real problems with the other six. Remove the Jazz and replace them with the Nuggets. What the heck is the writer of the article thinking when he said the Nuggets were overachievers last season? I like Donovan Mitchel and Mike Conley but the guys from Denver are still superior as a team.

It's quite strange to see the Spurs not getting picked as a contender. 

While i agree that Nuggets  should have been on the list, i don't agree about Jazz, they deserve the spot as well.This summer they did good job, both Conley and Bogdanovic should complement their main players Mitchell and Gobert nicely, spreading the floor will help them a lot.

Yeah, it is strange not to see Spurs on the list, considering they were the  most consistent NBA team in the last 20 years or so.
7516  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2019 NBA Season on: September 27, 2019, 05:16:22 AM
Honestly, I didn't follow Bucks for years until Giannis came to the team. He's now the face of the team and they should do everything to keep and make the boy the entire attraction of the team. Having a tandem with Giannis would be a good addition to the team but who could that be? someone who can play and have a connection with him. Two Lopez's are already on the team and there's Korver. Only few superstars doesn't have a team until now, maybe Melo?

When Giannis came to the team, Bucks isn't one of the noticeable teams and continue to be like that on the following seasons. But during that off-night season, Giannis worked hard and finally after 3 seasons with the Bucks, he now earned the Most Improved Player award and the rest is history. That's also the time when Bucks have a good pick on Malcolm Brogdon which became the Rookie of the Year that season although he was traded now to another team.

I don't see Bucks as good when it comes to trade. They didn't mostly involve in catching a big fish. Bucks really have a good decision picking this young guy and I think they already saw the potential of him that's why they offer long year contract back then.

I like how they are building the team, only one or two superstar/s and all remained are role players. But I don't know how long they will rely on that process in the purpose of getting the NBA title.

Main problem for the teams like Milwaukee Bucks or Denver Nuggets when it comes to attracting free agent stars is that they are small market. So players are less inclined to join, while teams from  cities like New York and especially Los Angeles don't have issues with that at all.

7517  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling as a profession: there's people who live out of gambling? on: September 26, 2019, 11:52:07 AM
Contrary to the popular belief , casinos don't have huge profit margin. From my experience , they have less than 10%, after they pay all the taxes and licenses, and taxes for these kind of business are quite high. Truth to be told,i worked in Europe where taxes on these things are quite high, some specific places like Vegas or Macau might have lower taxes.
So it is not so easy, to just open casino and make easy money.
If you look at a real casino, then the payout percentage is up to 98%. And the casino lives on these 2% very well) The main thing here is to have a big turnaround. In an online casino, it is not known what percentage is paid. And this is the main problem.

98% payout might happen only in short period of time like few weeks, but in the long run casino wouldn't be able to function with that kind of payout percentage. It would be hard for casino to pay taxes, licenses, salaries etc with 2% and keep on running for a longer period.
From my work experience  in casinos, payout percentage is approximately 90% (talking about 1 year period).

I don’t know what position you occupied in the casino, but I’m sure that not all employees have access to financial documents. I did not work in a casino, but I gave these figures based on reports from Las Vegas casinos. I understand that in other casinos this percentage is lower.

You have to differentiate payout percentage on 1 specific slot machine in some specific amount of time, that can go up to 98%, to average payout percentage across let's say 100 slot machines that some casino has. So slot machine 1 can have 75%, slot machine 2 85%, slot machine 3 90%. and slot machine 4 98% and so on..

Just to add, payout percentage is regulated, so in some states minimum is set at 75%, while some have 80+%.
7518  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling as a profession: there's people who live out of gambling? on: September 26, 2019, 10:13:55 AM
Contrary to the popular belief , casinos don't have huge profit margin. From my experience , they have less than 10%, after they pay all the taxes and licenses, and taxes for these kind of business are quite high. Truth to be told,i worked in Europe where taxes on these things are quite high, some specific places like Vegas or Macau might have lower taxes.
So it is not so easy, to just open casino and make easy money.
If you look at a real casino, then the payout percentage is up to 98%. And the casino lives on these 2% very well) The main thing here is to have a big turnaround. In an online casino, it is not known what percentage is paid. And this is the main problem.

98% payout might happen only in short period of time like few weeks, but in the long run casino wouldn't be able to function with that kind of payout percentage. It would be hard for casino to pay taxes, licenses, salaries etc with 2% and keep on running for a longer period.
From my work experience  in casinos, payout percentage is approximately 90% (talking about 1 year period).
7519  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling as a profession: there's people who live out of gambling? on: September 26, 2019, 09:17:15 AM
You can call yourself as a professional gambler or whatever who make a living out of it successfully for years ... until the time where you lost everything because of gambling come.
I don't think people who go home with nothing but stories of the casino after losing everything can be called professionals!
Well you have a point because professionals has the ability to be almost perfect on their field before they can claim professionalism but before that they cannot be considered as one.
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In my opinion, most of the so called "professionals" are just people who were lucky enough to be in profit from their gambling activity for several years in row. When some of them lose big time we just forget about them, and don't call them "professionals" any more, but we always have others taking their place. I watched a lot of high stakes poker games on YouTube, and I can say there is nothing special about most of the players there. They make mistakes, like anyone else, and lose a lot, and sometimes they win big because of luck, and that's pretty much it.


Maybe you watched those poker games on YouTube, but seems like you didn't pay much attention if you think it is all about luck. Poker is complex game, where risk management is incredibly important, and relying on luck won't get you far. Maybe once or twice you can luck your way out to final table at some big poker tournament, but certainly it wont happen often, like it is case with top poker players.

Just check  players like Daniel Negreanu and Scotty Nguyen, they are professionals for decades, and you don't stay at that level by sheer luck, for that you need skill. Sure they made mistakes, like every professional in every sport imaginable, sometimes even a lot of them, but in the end, they make nice living out of it.
7520  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2019 NBA Season on: September 26, 2019, 08:58:25 AM
The NBA has just fined the Bucks $50K for disclosing their plans of signing Antetokounmpo to a supermax contract next summer that worth $253.8 million, it would be a history in the NBA.

If that contract would push through, how many years would that be?

Is Giannis deserve that much?

What a dumb fine made by NBA again, I really don't get the point on why they would give a fine on plan for a player they already have. It's like just saying their plans for the future for their own players I don't see how they violated anything especially when it is still the off season and Giannis is already half way done to his contract. I believe I have seen similar news about opinions from the GMs and the owners but I didn't see any reports of a fine that followed after making the comment. I don't know if this is a new rule or they really have favorites within the NBA.


Yep, this fine doesn't make any sense, seems like NBA can't find some middle ground, from teams tampering with other teams player, we came to this where team can't say that they will offer new contract to their own player..

Giannis plays for Milwaukee Bucks, they are the only team that can offer him supermax contract, and when stating the obvious, they got fined. And yes, he is one of the few players in NBA that deserves supermax.
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