Just to show that I'm not blowing smoke up anybody ass: http://ohuiginn.net/panama/person/SONNY%20VLEISIDESSONNY VLEISIDES
Director
SPORTSBOOK SOLUTIONS, INC.
WORLDWAGER.COM, INC.
Subscriber
Agent http://ohuiginn.net/panama/company/id/380971WORLDWAGER.COM, INC.
Directors
SONNY VLEISIDES (google)
MIKHAIL LARGIN (google)
ALAIN VIA#A HIERRO (google)
Subscribers
VILMA ALICIA MORALES
INES DE BARES
Agent
RIVERA, BOLIVAR Y CASTA#EDAS
Date Registered
2000-06-12
To find complete details, consult the official registry. Search for 380971 as "Numero de Ficha" |
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<probably a different Sonny (not sure), but it's the text below that's important> http://www.everyedge.com/vb/showthread.php?92969-Sonny-or-Doug-re-WorldWagerHey Guys,
I'm wondering if anyone has had problems with WorldWager. I got a friend who has 23,000US with them and they have accused him of violating the rules. They have told him that the 23,000 now belongs to them.
They have a rule about betting on line movements. But, the rule is vague and open-ended. My friend, like anyone else shops for lines. WorldWager has been notoriously slow with their line movements; thereby, exposing themselves.
They gave him one warning and then began an investigation about his past bets. They concluded that they had the right to void all his bets that apparently violated their rules. This being the case, they concluded that the remaining balance in his account was theirs.
They attempted to placate my friend by saying they will sent him 3800 dollars, and will comp him 4000 dollars into his account. They limited his bets to 200 dollars and said he has to turn over the 4000 five times.
But this is obviously not satisfactory. Any suggestions? Any help you could provide would be greatly appreciated.
My friend is willing to compromise a bit, but their offer is woefully inadequate.
I've been to the Sportsbook Rating site (SBR), they gave WorldWager an F, and there was another individual that had similar problems.
Thank you for any attention you may give to this post. |
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Let's see what else Sonny Vleisides is capable of, shall we? http://www.majorwager.com/forums/mess-hall/101179-worldwager-trouble-again.htmlAccording to Raj Vishnu,
Cable television sports network ESPN has succeeded in shutting down a sports betting Web site called ESPN Bets.
Sort of.
ESPN Bets used the Web address www.espnbets.com and operated from Costa Rica for more than a year, until the TV network found out about it recently and took legal action to quash it.
The site went down several days ago.
But only at www.espnbets.com.
A visit to www.espnwagers.com still takes you to the ESPN Bets site.
What's more, now there are new problems for TV network ESPN, which is highly protective of its name, image and trademark and has previously gone after offshore sports betting operations that poached the ESPN moniker.
The Web address www.espnbet.com takes visitors to an online sportsbook called World Wager, whose main URL is www.worldwager.com.
Visitors to www.espnwager.com also end up at World Wager!!!
Don't expect any of these sites to remain around for long, though---when ESPN finds out, their lawyers will be all over the name-hijackers like flies on garbage.....
As for World Wager, obviously a sportsbook that attempts to divert potential customers to its site by illegally using someone else's trademarked name is a sleazy and dishonest book that should be avoided at all costs!!!
But that's not the main problem.
The World Wager Web site displays a long list of rules that it says the sportsbook operates under.
But buried in the middle of the laundry list of World Wager regulations concerning bets, payoffs and other matters is this little gem: "Management reserves the right to change or omit all rules, regulations, and payoff policies provided herein as warranted."
In other words, here are the rules but we don't have to follow them.
Or more succintly: There really are no rules.
Now that's something ESPN's lawyers should do something about.....
Bettorsworld can't be responsible for the actions of sportsbooks that don't advertise on this site, but we still might be able to help you out.
If you've been slow paid, no paid, stiffed, robbed, screwed or otherwise ripped off by an online or telephone sportsbook or an online casino, this column might be able to help you recover your monies.
We also might be able to assist you if you've been ripped off by a scamdicapper---a dishonest sports handicapper or tout. |
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Just got mine. I clicked the link. Not sure if I should have done that. A tad brainfried from the sun, for I just got in. Please advise.
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http://web.archive.org/web/20030202172903/http://www.sportsbooksolutions.com/Money.aspMoney Processing Solutions
Handling customers' money in and out of the business is often the bookmaker's biggest headache. Sportsbook Solutions offers seamless plug-in modules to take care of your banking problems. Now you can easily accept over 6 major credit cards, and customers can request funds to be transferred via bank wires, Western Union, Checks by mail, E-gold, and the world's first truly-anonymous Internet bank. http://web.archive.org/web/20000301124449/http://zolatimes.com/V3.44/dmt1.htmlThis article describes an Internet-based anonymous banking project, known as The Digital Monetary Trust, Ltd. The Digital Monetary Trust (hereafter: DMT) is a proposed financial trust (which may be optionally viewed as a mutual fund, or a money market fund) all of whose assets will be invested in cash, commodities (such as gold), and high-quality (low credit-risk) securities denominated in various national currencies. DMT is a Laissez Faire City corporation.
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We've learnt today that pointless threads can be locked on this forum.
We aim to please. You're lucky I like you, and don't have the red-ass toward ANY mods/admin.  |
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=110868.0I started webspawner.com in 1995. It was my focus for many years. Do a search for 'free webpages' on google. I'm currently president of that company, not BFL. We operated services as Sportsbook Solutions and the SportsPulse platform. It was a lucrative and fun time. I saw it as a libertarian adventure in challenging the authorities of the world while earning a good living. http://web.archive.org/web/20030213010719/http://www.sportsbooksolutions.com/To see an example of our sportsbook system, please visit our currently featured licensee: www.WorldWager.com Remember that final quote as I present my case. Out of all the iterations of http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.webspawner.com/users/gino, Sonny opted to go with the following one. http://www.webspawner.com/users/gino http://web.archive.org/web/20000820021601/http://www.webspawner.com/users/gino/ http://web.archive.org/web/19981205211508/http://www.webspawner.com/users/gino/Note the original copyright and Gino's email (missing). The only person who would have changed it was Gino (a.k.a. Sonny Vleisides). Note the link Internet Sports Wagering - Coming Soon. When you visit the link above and click on that link, it directs to worldwager.com. Here's that link again: http://web.archive.org/web/20030213010719/http://www.sportsbooksolutions.com/Here's the same quote from that page from above: To see an example of our sportsbook system, please visit our currently featured licensee: www.WorldWager.com  Note the email address gino@lfcity.com and copyright. lfcity.com was not some email provider. The only people who had access to emails there were those allowed by the admin, namely Sonny Vleisides. Note the link to The Fee Irish Sweepstakes, of which we all know was operated by Sonny Vleisides. http://web.archive.org/web/19990219103845/http://www.irishgreat8.com/ Search yourself for worldwager.com and see all those scammed by Sonny: https://www.google.com/search?q=Dan+Mitchell&oq=Dan+Mitchell&aqs=chrome.0.69i57j69i64&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#sclient=psy-ab&q=%22worldwager%2Ccom%22+scam&oq=%22worldwager%2Ccom%22+scam&gs_l=serp.3...3502.3502.2.3812.1.1.0.0.0.0.103.103.0j1.1.0...0.0.0..1c.1.17.serp.FZHUbsaDC6c&psj=1&bav=on.2,or.r_cp.r_qf.&fp=746bd702df9010f1&biw=1066&bih=646http://www.therxforum.com/showthread.php?t=203749ForumOffshore TalkOFFSHORE FORUM - Online Sportsbetting Worldwager stole me 6.500 $ I opened an account with them and I deposited about 5.000 $. I placed about 50 bets and I withdrew about 4.000 $. When I asked for a withdrawal of 2.000 $ they closed my account accusing me to have 3 different accounts with them. They said that I placed several same bets on 3 different accounts.
They haven’t accepted to discuss with me and so I asked the help of Patrick Mcirish but unfortunately they didn’t want to discuss neither with him.
So stay away from them!!!!!!!
I would like to thank Patrick for his kind help with worldwager and for his past help with Betcbs. 09-01-2003, 08:28 AM
Hoeg,
BS - they say they are in london, but I don't think so. My money says they're in CR with their servers.
Dan Mitchell is a joke. He thinks 8 week + payouts are the norm. He's a phucking joke. Do you fuckin' honestly believe that Sonny Vleisides who used to rip off poor little old ladies and dudes betting on sports is going to NOT rip off geeks? I am going on record, right here, right now, and state that Sonny Vleisides is nothing but a crock. If this statement it not true, then I expect a letter from his attorney, suing me for libel. If I don't get such a letter, then the statement is true. We'll call it BetsO'Bruno. In essence, I'm formally inviting BFL, et al. to sue me. Bring it on! Bring it on! I further contend that the above practices are ongoing, pertaining to not only Bitcoin related entities. There are 100's, if not thousands of sites on webspawner.com that link to lottery and gaming systems that Sonny Vleisides and his cohorts control. For those who don't try to get out while the getting out is good, you'll have nobody to blame but yourselves. Warning signs have been posting ever since Sonny Vleisides was named as a principal at BFL.
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Hey, wasn't Pirate40 from McKinney? I don't know if people are still hunting him down, or if he was arrested for something, but if not. START THE HUNT!
I thought about that about a week ago. I did a little hunting, but ended it, albeit still not sure. |
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Wait so your brother is dead and you exploited it, and now your exploiting your mom, you are a great family man keep it up!
Gweedo, why don't you mind your own business? I've already jacked off twice to Fin's mom. We don't want it taken down, now do we? Besides, this is how some people deal with the lost of a younger brother--they post YT videos of their drunk mom so others can fantasize about her. Sometimes, you get lucky and a sister is thrown in for some added pleasure. For those into such things, there's even a cute brother. I say keep 'em coming Fin, for only you know for sure if this is good therapy or not. That said, time for session three. |
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Go to http://www.webspawner.com/users/extrosgpotvin/ and you'll see an ad for ButterflyLabs. ONLY an ad, for the wall of text is gone. Vanished. Ceased to... or “He's not pining, he's passed on. This parrot is no more. He has ceased to be. He's expired and gone to meet his maker. He's a stiff, bereft of life, he rests in peace. If you hadn't have nailed him to the perch he'd be pushing up the daisies. He's rung down the curtain and joined the choir invisible. This is an ex-parrot!” Wow that story is fascinating. Can't believe I never heard of SG before.
Thanks for sharing
I did not spend a penny, but used to read some of the posts in their forum. They used to talk about looking out the window hoping the FedX truck would arrive with their $25,000 check from a (slightly) overdue payment.  I remember the funniest time online back then, was when they shut the site down, people were trying to figure out who was behind it, the rumors started circulating, and then someone posts a pic in the forum claiming they have a pic of the stockgeneration office in Slovania or somewhere. They show a pic of a run down office in the ghetto with a sign hanging in the window that was photoshopped in. Then came crockgeneration.com the parody. I guess it was funny to me because I had emotions tied up in it, wondering all kinds of things, after having invested about $150 Maybe you might be able to get your $150 back via a Jalapeno (originally a $149 value). http://www.buildfreedom.com/engineering/key_factors.htmlFreedom Capital Formation. As I write this, there's a huge boom in technology stocks, particularly Internet stocks. Great value is being created and added to the economy. This value is reflected in the total market valuation of technology stocks. It also represents capital formation. Unfortunately, all this capital is measured in terms of the enemy's currency. The companies involved are corporations in the enemy camp. They pay corporation taxes to the enemy, file reports with the enemy, collect individual taxes on behalf of the enemy, etc.
The Economic Means to Freedom requires that capital formation also take place in the real free-enterprise sector (underground economy). Anthon L. Hargis & Co. operates a "fledgling" free market share exchange.This and/or similar exchanges (as well as private banking outside the enemy system) need to expand dramatically. Maybe Laissez Faire City can play a role here. At least some of the balances in e-gold accounts can be regarded as freedom capital.
In general, economic resources and activities shifted from the public and private sectors into the real free-enterprise sector constitute freedom capital formation. Additionally, capital can be created in the real free-enterprise sector itself through the formation and expansion of real free-enterprise ventures. There are also offshore ventures such as Stockgeneration that greatly facilitate freedom capital formation. Would you like to see 100's of other sites on WebSpawner (owned by Sonny Vleisides) that are now currently running ads for ButterflyLabs? Search yourself, using the keywords Kansas, Lottery, Costa Rica, et al. |
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I raise you a gay thought.
Totally unrelated cool stuff: Today I found out that my company is giving away free shirts and officially organizing a "team" for participants of the local Christopher Street Day. This is a multinational multi-billion-revenue pharmaceutical giant I'm talking about. Blew me away a little bit. Pretty cool. This is not a Dox save. I repeat, this is not a dox save. |
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It may be prudent to have this issue resolved before Bitcoin 100 moves forward with any action. I'm sure it'll be addressed to all concerns' satisfaction. I will PM Nonprofit, linking them to this post.
As I said, it's not their fault, so they deserve the $1000 but maybe they don't deserve the publicity from B100 until the donation progress is usable. Wonder what Coinbase has to say about that issue. I'm sure this minor issue will be resolved accordingly. I have sent a PM to Nonprofit. Giszmo, if you would be so kind, can you send a PM to Coinbase expressing your concern? I feel it has merit. |
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I just got off the phone with "Robert" from PayPal and he said they would be more than willing to refund me after a dispute was opened because the BFL cronies haven't shipped a single thing and are denying refunds.
???But the highlighted part is not true??? BFL shill pls go Go back and read my post history - including on this thread - and then see if I'm a shill for anybody. To say BFL has not shipped a single thing is a prima facie misrepresentation of the truth. You have plenty of cause to come down on BFL without making shit up. They haven't shipped a single in a month, except to shills like ARS Technica and other "I got my Single today!" shills They haven't provided an explanation as to why they haven't shipped. What pisses me off the most is they claim to still be "Shipping June 23rd Singles" which they've been claiming for a month now. There's under 100 orders for June 23rd, so how many Singles do you think they've shipped? Who in their right mind would defend this company after they started denying refunds to customers, with some phoney explanation? A shill would Welcome to Full Production, where refunds are no longer honored. |
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We've learnt today that pointless threads can be locked on this forum.
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Let me get this straight: One can bet a WatchTower, but raise with a Jimi. Is that correct?
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omg omg what did i just watch
2 Transvestites and 3 whores.  And DS9 thrown in for good measure? |
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...call, and raise you...  |
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omg omg what did i just watch
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