But, Judge, Josh Zerlan called Satoshi Nakamoto a Monumental Asshole.
Case reopened!
OMFG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PG IS SATOSHI NAKAMOTO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I FOUND HIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What? no reward?  ? Josh, is bcp19 your latest sock? I want to state that I have reason to believe that this is not the case, and that they are two different people. Do they work at BFL? Edit: Don't tell me...It's SLOCK? Nah, just a dude in Iowa. Why does he/she/it agree with absolutely everything that BFL does? Heavy investments or just shilling for the sake of shilling? He is even hitting the BFL forums pretty hard right now. (bcp19) Only a crazy guy would post in every BFL thread.  |
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But, Judge, Josh Zerlan called Satoshi Nakamoto a Monumental Asshole.
Case reopened!
OMFG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PG IS SATOSHI NAKAMOTO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I FOUND HIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What? no reward? ? Josh, is bcp19 your latest sock? I want to state that I have reason to believe that this is not the case, and that they are two different people. Do they work at BFL? Edit: Don't tell me...It's SLOCK? Nah, just a dude in Iowa. |
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But, Judge, Josh Zerlan called Satoshi Nakamoto a Monumental Asshole.
Case reopened!
OMFG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PG IS SATOSHI NAKAMOTO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I FOUND HIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What? no reward? ? I was in reference to Josh calling EVERYBODY on this forum a Monumental Asshole, and since SN is still a member, ergo the assessment. |
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But, Judge, Josh Zerlan called Satoshi Nakamoto a Monumental Asshole.
Case reopened!
OMFG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PG IS SATOSHI NAKAMOTO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I FOUND HIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What? no reward? ? Josh, is bcp19 your latest sock? I want to state that I have reason to believe that this is not the case, and that they are two different people. |
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I am guessing they haven't paid one cent in sales tax.
Can't we even get past the second post without spreading misinformation? Let's see the facts: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=110868.0I'm on a good track now,... Clearly, I've just shown that in no way Sonny Vleisides would do anything outside the law given that his company now has 45 employees--NOT SUBCONTRACTORS! Since they clearly have employees, BF Labs Inc. has an EIN registered with the the IRS. http://www.irs.gov/Businesses/Small-Businesses-&-Self-Employed/Do-You-Need-an-EIN%3FYou will need an EIN if you answer "Yes" to any of the following questions.
Do you have employees? Since any corporation mush provide the EIN when asked, I will ask the following simply question: BFL, what is your EIN?<I am well aware that Kansas sales tax and EIN are two different issues.> |
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Because they are above the law. If I am mistaken, Josh Zerlan or Sonny Vleisides will reply in this thread showing proof that they do indeed pay sales tax to the state of Kansas. If they don't, then they should be heavily fined. http://kansasstatutes.lesterama.org/Chapter_79/Article_36/79-3615.htmlIf any taxpayer, with fraudulent intent, fails to pay any tax or make, render or sign any return, or to supply any information, within the time required by or under the provisions of this act, there shall be added to the tax a penalty in an amount equal to 50% of the unpaid balance of tax due. |
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But, Judge, Josh Zerlan called Satoshi Nakamoto a Monumental Asshole.
Case reopened!
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Dude, I can top that story.
I put in a 25 hour shift at a Waffle House in Florence, AL, on Christmas Day, 2001, the day after a major ice storm, and the electricity was still out during my entire shift.
We were able to cook because all the grills and burners were gas. Candles provided the lighting. From six in the morning to seven the next morning, me and the entire crew, sans two I fired during the shift for bitching (seriously), served a standing room only crowd.
Not a single customer bitched, because they obviously saw that we were doing the best we can to accommodate their needs--hunger--under the extreme circumstance.
I just happened to be the person who made sure that all three restaurants (Florence, Tuscumbia, and Sheffield) were stocked for the normal Christmas Day rush. I was fortunate to see the storm coming, thus overstocked a faction of a percent, of which I took heat for at the time, and even effected my food cost bonus.
None of the three restaurants ran outta food, and they were the only businesses opened during the blackout. While most the locals stayed home, we were feeding all the emergency personnel and people stuck in hotel rooms nearby.
At the end of my shift, I was a ZOMBIE, but returned 8 hours later to do it again for another 12 hours, but with electricity for the final 4 hours.
Ergo, not having common external PSUs on hand at Buffalo Labs is 100% uncalled for.
Very nice, glad it all worked out, BUT, what if the inventory orders you had made was on a truck that slid off the road and was unable to make your delivery? Your story ended up with a successful ending due to forethought and you were lucky not to have any disasters, mine was a near disaster due to things beyond our control (which an overturned truck would have been for you). There was a report a while back about a package they received that had been broken open in shipment and they only got something like 29% of their order (I could be off a bit). This could be the long term effect of that shipment, you never know. You have the luxury of dreaming of a picture perfert world where nothing goes wrong and when reality doesn't live up to the dream you place blame in what could end up being the wrong place. I see missing facts, so while you could be right, you equally could be wrong. Did you miss the part where there were live flames on each table in the form of candles? |
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Yes that is simple. Did BFL ever promise in it's advertising any particular bitcoin pay back for buying the hardware?
I just wonder because that would expose them to a serious liability lawsuit.
There was an official post with estimated revenue but couldn't find it. (probably deleted) EDIT: There it is: https://forums.butterflylabs.com/showwiki.php?title=FAQ:Get+Rich+Quick+Not+so+fastNo promise but misleading for noobs imo. Income per month for the BFL ASICs (using the above) with no overclocking and ZERO power costs in USD is would therefore be around the following:
Jalapeno - $1,255/mth
"Little" Single - $8,373/mth
Single - $16,746/mth
Minirig - $418,651/mth
Bear in mind these are laboratory examples (i.e. in a perfect and controlled world) and your returns may not necessarily be this high. Actually, it's almost guaranteed you will never see these sorts of figures as there will be a whole heap of ASIC's hit the market which will dramatically affect hash-rate and difficulty. These values will definitely fluctuate daily as the market value of BTC fluctuates and hash-rates/difficulty changes. If you want to run your own calculations check out many of the BTC calculators online ranging from simple to complex. Here's an example to start you off: http://bitcoinx.com/profit/ There's a reason MLMs are not allowed to show the $ amounts when they present their matrixes. |
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here's a red flag. they use McDonald's analogies.  McD's keeps enough stuff in their freezer to keep operating 100% all the time. Because they know if they're out of burgers people will just go to BK or Wendies. You are only partially correct. Having worked for McDonalds I can attest they have multiple freezers with the largest one being downstairs. The freezer holding the daily hamburgers and 1/4 pounders hold ~4 boxes of each and when low someone runs downstairs to get more. The french fry freezer hold the bags taken from the boxes brought up from downstairs. Now, a true story. The town I worked in had a railroad line that cut through the middle of town. If anything happened and a train broke down, there were a few underpasses that could be gotten to. There was also a seldom used branch off the main line that if a train broke down on would cut ~20% of the town off from the rest. One night this happened and during the normal rush hour for the evening we were only seeing 5-10 people an hour. The manager, ever cost concious, ended up sending everyone home except the 4 people who would close the store at the end of the night. I was cooking hamburgers and the Manager and 2 others were running the registers. When the train finally got fixed and moved, we were packed. I had upwards of 80 patties on the grills non-stop for 3 hours. When the little freezer ran out, I had to have the manager run downstairs to get me more as I could not leave or I'd have charcoal on the grill. I could not even take the time to prepare Filet-o-Fish or Apple and Cherry pies, the manager had to to them as well as wrap everything I sent up to him and try to keep the french fries flowing. I was balls to the walls on the grills and buns and couldn't thik about ANYTHING else. If the manager could not get me more product, we would have been dead in the water until I was out of everything I could cook and go get more. You want a filet? Gotta wait. Apple pie? Gotta wait. When things slowed down to where we could breathe, the manager took a reading of sales and compared it to the charts. The burgers I cooked during that 3 hour period should have taken a minimum of 7 people to do. No floors got mopped, no bathrooms got cleaned, no trash got taken out. So, spare me your unknowing diatribes about how the analogies are incorrect. Until you have been there, you are clueless. Dude, I can top that story. I put in a 25 hour shift at a Waffle House in Florence, AL, on Christmas Day, 2001, the day after a major ice storm, and the electricity was still out during my entire shift. We were able to cook because all the grills and burners were gas. Candles provided the lighting. From six in the morning to seven the next morning, me and the entire crew, sans two I fired during the shift for bitching (seriously), served a standing room only crowd. Not a single customer bitched, because they obviously saw that we were doing the best we can to accommodate their needs--hunger--under the extreme circumstance. I just happened to be the person who made sure that all three restaurants (Florence, Tuscumbia, and Sheffield) were stocked for the normal Christmas Day rush. I was fortunate to see the storm coming, thus overstocked a faction of a percent, of which I took heat for at the time, and even effected my food cost bonus. None of the three restaurants ran outta food, and they were the only businesses opened during the blackout. While most the locals stayed home, we were feeding all the emergency personnel and people stuck in hotel rooms nearby. At the end of my shift, I was a ZOMBIE, but returned 8 hours later to do it again for another 12 hours, but with electricity for the final 4 hours. Ergo, not having common external PSUs on hand at Buffalo Labs is 100% uncalled for. |
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here's a red flag. they use McDonald's analogies. "Excuse me, but there's no bun with my Filet-o-Fish." "Buns are on backorder. You're hungry, right! We are clearly giving you the option of accepting the sandwich without the bun or you can wait for your order till when the buns arrive." "I am hungry, thus I'll go across the street and buy my own bun. Thanks, bud!" <one month later> "Excuse me, but there's no bun with my Filet-o-Fish." "This is getting fuckin' rediculous! Don't you monumental assholes know that making buns is hard? You're hungry, right? Take the fuckin' sandwich and shut your motherfuckin' trap! Nobody else is complaining, for they simply go across the street and get their own bun. How the fuck can I explain it to you any simpler? Contact the FTC if you think we are not in line with our procedure." "I am so sorry! I see that you're doing the best you can under the extreme circumstance. Please forgive me for being outta line." "No problem, bud! Would you like to trade in you F-o-F for a Big Mac? There's an extra bun in the middle." "I thought you said that you were outta buns?" "What part of pre-order don't you understand?" |
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The order was a Jalapeno initially. I paid to upgrade it to a 60gh/s SC Single, and BFL confirmed that I would not lose my place in line.
The bit-pay guys know the number BFL's database started at, and it was with my order. I placed it within ten seconds of BFL opening the forms, and nobody on the forums claimed a previous preorder until BFL started lying about it. I'm not going to be easily convinced that over 50 people placed orders via paypal exclusively in those ten seconds.
BFL: What's your excuse for this one?
Calm the fck down, The reason why there are orders b4 you was the last FPGA orders were allowed to convert to ASICs. They've automatically become the first ones in line. For new orders, its true that you're the first. Nemesis is correct. There are a number of orders that are before the first Bitpay order, dating back well before #1600. Garr, you can officially piss off at this point and take your accusations and stick them straight up your ass. I tried to be nice and I wanted to help you and you give me all sorts of shit and accusations. This is why we no longer give a shit about this forum; Everyone here is monumental assholes, no matter how accommodating one tries to be. Garr, you'll get your order when it comes up in the queue, I'm done looking into your problems or trying to help you. |
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The Monumental Asshole Bump
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Vote with your feet, by filing a real complaint - it only takes a few minutes at https://www.ftccomplaintassistant.gov/ - The FTC will only take action if they receive a number of real complaints. I did a while back. I honestly don't see why it would take several filings before they act, when one letter should do it. It's obvious even to most brain-dead person that nobody has or will receive what they paid for a year ago. Case in point, is the missing PSUs which, by the way, allows BFL to make more money on the shipping since the boxes will be lighter. I wouldn't be surprised if Sonny Vleisides charges his employees for using the toilet paper. |
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I would beg to differ: They've been taking pre-orders for ASICS early 2012, they have now taken more than 12-18 months to deliver on their products.
"they have now taken more than 12-18 months to deliver on their products." would seem to indicate otherwise, since we never promised delivery until October or November. Why do you say "they have" when you should say "we have"? Are you still trying to deny you are Josh Zerlan? You don't understand what quotes are used for, do you? /mourns for our education system. Any employee of any company that spoke to any individual like that would be immediately fired unless, of course, said employee sucks the dick of the owner, namely Sonny Vleisides. |
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I would beg to differ: They've been taking pre-orders for ASICS early 2012, they have now taken more than 12-18 months to deliver on their products.
"they have now taken more than 12-18 months to deliver on their products." would seem to indicate otherwise, since we never promised delivery until October or November. I'm not sure what's going on here, but Inaba has no authority to post official statements pertaining to BF Labs Inc., et al. l Who has deleted posts before? Certainly not me.
Do you really want to take that position, BFL_Josh, also AKA <someone else>? Perhaps BFL_Josh has never altered history. But <someone else> absolutely has in the context of BFL communications. (Search for "memory hole" and folks can find one of my follow-ups where this happened.) -- I remember what I've read. And I've read all the BFL related threads starting with the Fall 2011 BFL one's. I recognize that you're new to BFL corporate membership, but there is a *lot* of history to overcome before BFL has a good reputation. Absolutely I want to take that position. That accusation is pretty serious, please provide a link where I strategically deleted any information I've posted as either Inaba or BFL_Josh. Once again, people are acting like it's a secret that I have two accounts; It's not. In my capacity as a representative of BFL, I post as BFL_Josh, for other things, I post as Inaba.But in both cases, I don't hide what I write or strategically delete/alter anything. I've been accused of that in the past by certain members of this forum, but when the chips were down it was shown those individuals lied and any accusations they made were completely fabricated just to support their weak and untenable position. There's a feature of the forum if you use the default skin where it says when the message was last edited... so please be careful what you accuse me of, because I can prove you wrong if you are just making things up. If there some place that I strategically deleted something, please point it out as I have no recollection of it and it would be an error on my part. |
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Sonny Vleisides mistakenly walks into an old folks home.
The door is immediately locked behind him.
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Right on cue, in come the trolls to wreck a good thread! Lets see if we can get K9, PL and PG in here, as well!
What did one cocksucker say to the other cocksucker? Are you going to wear that Josh on your chin all day or are you going to let me lick it off? |
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