For those dryin' to ask why I locked some threads and, moreover, what flavor it was...  |
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I am locking this thread.
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This is a bullshit thread, thus I'm locking it!
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This is a bullshit thread, thus I am not locking.
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This is a bullshit thread, thus I'm locking it.
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I'm going to lock this thread, for it no longer serves a purpose and has been proven that its existence is base on misinformation on my part.
Josh, would you be so kind as to let me know what other threads of mine you like me to lock? Instead of the blanket response--ALL--please provide links. Chances are good I'll comply.
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Excellent, I look forward to your visit. Please email me (or PM if you prefer) and we will sort out the details of when. If you want to send the $200, send it to the BitcoinDF donation address.
Sent! I used Mt Gox rate of which equated to 1.55 BTC but sent 1.57 BTC to be fair. * speechless * You have to admit, Xian, this shit is getting way outta hand. But don't worry, I'm already scheming on how to con BFL outta one of their logo coffee cups.  |
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Excellent, I look forward to your visit. Please email me (or PM if you prefer) and we will sort out the details of when. If you want to send the $200, send it to the BitcoinDF donation address.
Sent! I used Mt Gox rate of which equated to 1.55 BTC but sent 1.57 BTC to be fair. |
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Nice move Josh. Hopefully this indicates a positive change in attitude for both you and Phin.
Josh cleverly played the Olive Branch Card before I had a chance to. Well-played! Going to send that $200 USD now to where Josh desires it wants sent to. |
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Bruno, I don't know what sort of mental disorder you suffer from and frankly I don't really care.
I'll tell you what, why don't you come to BFL and take a tour of the place, meet the people that work here and bear personal witness to the whole business? You seem to be under some strange manic obsession that is unexplainable, so perhaps actually seeing the thing you are obsessed with will return your chemical balance to it's more ... rational ... state?
I'm serious, I will cover your hotel bill and travel expenses, all you have to do is show up to the offices. Feel free to bring a friend and/or a camera if it will make you feel better and you want to. The only thing I ask is you try not to talk about cocks and "jezz" the entire time.
I suspect you'll elect not to take me up on this offer, because I believe you are purely an attention seeking sensationalist that has no real interest in the welfare of the community or the truth. It's all about what kind of attention you can garner for yourself, isn't it?
I accept! Also, I WILL NOT pen another ill word about BFL until after such a meeting takes place and ONLY if such actions is warranted. Regardless, I'm pretty sure my overall negative comments will be scaled back considerably. Also, please PM me a Bitcoin address so that I can now send you that $200. I'll assume you're only honestly seeking a single payment, with the other $200 you mentioned the other night being just banter. Once received, just state on this forum somewhere that you did receive it. It doesn't have to go toward a charity as I've mentioned the other night. Use it for dinner. It truly doesn't matter. I will also now refrain from using vile language in posts, e.g. jeez, cocksucker, MF, etc. Honestly, Josh, this shit needs to stop, most of which has been on my part and not yours. Whether you're aware of it or not, each and every Bitcoiner I've personally spoke with on the phone, I have spoken highly of you, with the only negative aspect pertaining to falsehoods either coming from you or Camp BFL. I look forward to that address via a PM, bud. Bruno Kucinskas |
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BTC is not useful for laundering, everybody can see what you are doing in the blockchain
That is the exact same reason to date not a single person has been ripped off via some entity when using Bitcoin. |
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I hope The Bitcoin Foundation brought that up at the meetings yesterday and today. |
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Dmitry,
Please meet my friend Edan-- he's on the board of a nonprofit called ByteBack that is dedicated to providing computer training to low income residents of Washington D.C. to improve their economic opportunities. Also cc'ed is ByteBack's development director, Cristina Moscoso.
Cristina,
My friend Dmitry runs a project called BitCoin100 that connects donors with charities that agree to accept BitCoins as a currency on their donations page. As an incentive, BitCoin100 donates $1,000 worth to the selected charity. Check out their site and let Dmitry know if you have any questions.
Good luck,
Frankie This one's a tad trickier due to: view-source:http://byteback.org/ <meta name='robots' content='noindex,nofollow' /> Hence, archive.org has no record of them, albeit they've been registered since 1997 according to Godaddy. Domain Name: BYTEBACK.ORG
Registrar URL: http://www.godaddy.com
Updated Date: 2012-08-30 21:52:06
Creation Date: 1997-09-15 04:00:00 http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://byteback.org http://www.linkedin.com/company/byte-backAbout Byte Back, Inc.
Byte Back, Inc. is a 501(c)(3) charitable organization (FEIN 52-2061398) that provides computer literacy and employment readiness skills to underserved communities throughout Washington D.C. Our mission is to improve economic opportunities by providing computer and technology courses to low-income residents in D.C.. What we do is bridge the digital divide. There are many people in the D.C. community who lack access to digital communications, and who have yet to learn how to use a computer. In addition to providing free and low-cost computer courses for neighborhoods in D.C., we also teach advanced certification courses, enabling our students to enter the workforce with competitive and useful skills. We teach computer literacy classes at over a dozen locations throughout the city, at D.C. Public Libraries, at human service agencies, and at our own central office at Washington, D.C. No info here: http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/byteback.orgLet's see if we can get more information from their camp so that we can shine a more positive one on them. |
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Dmitry,
Please meet my friend Amy. She's the founder of the Primate Education Network, a young nonprofit dedicated to supporting teachers to save endangered monkeys, apes, chimps and the like around the world. PEN creates classroom training tools and resources to increase compassion and protection for primates in their natural habitats. Amy has spent much of her career working in Africa with great apes (gorillas?) and did a stint at the National Zoo. She's awesome and I know $1,000 would make a big difference to her.
Enthusiastically,
Frankie Domain registered in 2012, and Wayback Machine for 2013 only. No 501(c)3. Further discussion is warranted with this one, but seems to be a noble cause and probably deserving. I will go along with any decision made concerning them. |
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Dmitry,
Please meet my good friend Tami. She's the director of the North Carolina-based Abundance Foundation, a non-profit that focuses on hands-on sustainability education. They hold events to promote local foods, renewable fuels and sustainable agriculture, among other things. Tami is quite forward-thinking as far as tech goes-- she and her husband once ran a successful open source software company called Tarus. However, Abundance does not yet accept BitCoins as donations.
Tami is awesome and I know she could do a lot of good with $1,000.
Enthusiastically,
Frankie Another No-Brainer: And another YES from me. |
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Please meet my good friend Jessie Morey. She's the awesome director of a nonprofit that teaches meditation skills to teens to improve emotion-regulation and self-esteem, among other things. It's called [urlhttp://ibme.info/=]Inward Bound Mindfulness Education[/url]. No Brainer! YES from me. |
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100 is binary for 4. So, maybe Bitcoin100 could be the Bitcoin 4: myself, Bruno, Edd, and Jason? Though we would have to not let anyone else join Just kissing.. Bitcoin100 didn't raise more than $10k. I think we raised something like $5k in donations. Maybe more, but not $10k. Bitcoin raise in value has just been very good to us. Personally, I wouldn't want to bother with the 501c status. On the one hand it *might* get us more donations from people wanting to donate for tax deduction purposes. On the other hand, that would mean most costs, more fees, for paperwork for donations and IRS filings, and I think generally goes against what I think is the spirit of Bitcoin and this group, which is that it transcends governments. People from all over the world are donating bitcoins. And we do our job without relying on any bank or official organization "allowing" us to send money to charities. Why should we limit ourselves to a specific country, and force all out records and filings into a specific currency? Plus, I would have to keep record of every Bitcoin we receive in it's USD price at the time we got it, in order to file proper tax revenue filings. Sure, it's also extra work I'd really rather not bog myself down with, especially since I don't think it's needed, but really, my main objection is the one above. I'm with Rassah on this. I think the benefits to "officially organizing" this don't outweigh the cons. It is a LOT more paperwork overhead. I'll concur! Now, I'm going to take the time to review all the suggestions submitted to Rassah. |
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I didn't even read post #2, going straight to The Bitcoin Foundation site and finally signing up and becoming a member. Doling out ~$25 USD is the least I could do for their efforts yesterday and probably today. Yes, I've read concerns about the org., but put that aside, though still not sure what to believe, I felt it important to support them now. Now, I only owe Josh $175.00 USD. EDIT: I just refreshed the page on their site, and was asked if I wanted to UPGRADE my account. To what? A Monarch? |
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As many of you know, in addition to being an attorney in private practice, I am Chairman of the Bitcoin Foundation's Regulatory Affairs Committee.
The Foundation was invited to a private conference held yesterday by FinCEN in Washington, D.C. In attendance were high-level representatives from FinCEN, IRS, FDIC, Federal Reserve, OCC, FBI, DEA, Secret Service, Department of Homeland Security and more. It was a packed house. FinCEN did an impressive job of bringing together in one room nearly all of the agency stakeholders in the Bitcoin issue.
At the conference, Patrick Murck, Peter Vessenes, Brian Klein, Jim Harper and I each gave presentations totaling about an hour. We canvassed Bitcoin the protocol, bitcoins the currency, regulatory challenges, enforcement and investigation methodologies – everything under the Bitcoin sun. We then responded to questions from the agency representatives for about an hour. Our goal was to begin a frank dialogue with the federal government about Bitcoin and dispel some of the publicly-available misinformation.
It was a smashing success.
First and foremost, we received a very friendly reception. The attendees were engaged and interested in learning about distributed finance in general and Bitcoin in particular. Each Foundation member lit the subject matter through his own lens. Peter walked the government through a discussion of the core technology. Brian, an ex-federal prosecutor, discussed investigative methodologies.
I, of course, discussed regulatory challenges. I discussed some of the ways in which the regulatory landscape in the US did not achieve the government’s policy goals. In particular, I spent a few minutes just going through the ambiguity in the March FinCEN Guidance, and emphasized the importance of supporting innovation in the Bitcoin industry. I hit some points very hard – like how the regulatory environment has disincentivized businesses from launching in the US and from servicing US customers. I also discussed how some businesses were simply picking up and leaving the US entirely.
Our message was straightforward: It is critical that the industry and the regulators work together to create a safe and sane regulatory environment for Bitcoin businesses in the United States.
To be sure, they asked the tough questions. The agencies have some very real and legitimate concerns. We often had to give the tough answers. By the time we were through, though, many of the representatives approached me and some the other presenters to say that they had a much better understanding of the industry and the technology. I don’t think anyone believes we achieved world peace, or solved the regulatory challenges once and for all.
We started a dialogue – the first steps in understanding each other.
Try accomplishing that without a The Bitcoin Foundation. +1(+) for The Bitcoin Foundation. I guess it's time for me to become a member and support them. |
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Thank you, BFL! BFL has help me be a little more creative, offering up proof with the following to show off my latest creativity.
BFL Fanbois: *Consider yourself in Contempt!* Camp Lugan: *Josh Zerlan, did BFL submit their product line to the FCC?* BFL Fanfois: BFL's miner don't need to be FCC certified! Don't answer the question, Josh. It's a trap! Josh Zerlan: I'll answer the question! [to Phinnaeus Gage] Josh Zerlan: You want answers? Phinnaeus Gage: I think us monumental assholes are entitled to. Josh Zerlan: *You want answers?* Phinnaeus Gage: *We want the truth!* Josh Zerlan: *You can't handle the truth!* [pauses, to wipe the jeez from his chin] Josh Zerlan: Sonny lived in a room that had four walls, and one of those walls had bars guarded by Italians with guns. Who else has been there? You? You, PL? You, K9? I have a greater responsibility than you could possibly fathom. You weep for those who've ordered or yet to order from our no-refund-products, then you curse BF Labs Inc. You have that luxury here on BitcoinTalk. You have the luxury of not blowing who I blow. Those that ordered, while tragic, probably would have wasted their disposable income on some useless product or service. And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, tries to direct their money toward Butterfly Labs. You don't want the truth because deep down in places you don't talk about in your Scooby-Doo panties, you want me to con moneys from them fools, you need me to con moneys from them fools. We use words like "in two weeks", "making hardware is hard", "we never lie". We use these words as the backbone of BF Labs Inc. Monumental assholes use them as a punchline. We have neither the time nor the inclination to explain ourselves to monumental assholes who rises and sleeps under the blanket of BFL trying to protect the Bitcoin network, and then questions the manner in which we try to do such. We would rather you just said thank you, and went on your way. Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a phone and call the FCC, the FTC, the FBI, the IRS, the CIA... Either way, I don't give a damn what you think you are entitled to. Phinnaeus Gage: Josh Zerlan, did BFL submit their product line to the FCC?* Josh Zerlan: I said what I was paid for to say, I... Phinnaeus Gage: *Josh Zerlan, did BFL submit the screen to the FCC?* Josh Zerlan: *You're Goddamn right they did!* *Provides link.* https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/reports/ViewExhibitReport.cfm?mode=Exhibits&RequestTimeout=500&calledFromFrame=N&application_id=132722&fcc_id='MSQME370T' ... Josh Zerlan: [contemptuously] You monumental assholes... you have no idea how to build ASIC-based Bitcoin miners. All you did was weaken a company today, Phinn. That's all you did. You put our profits in danger. Sweet dreams, sonny. Phinnaeus Gage: Don't call me Sonny. I'm a hero member of BitcoinTalk with the highest post count, and you're a son of a bitch with jeez on your chin. You've been served! |
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