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7921  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to control greed on gambling? on: July 18, 2017, 02:15:47 PM
Always start with a small amount of capital.

If you used to gamble with bigger amount of capital when you gamble, greed will start to come out if you are holding bigger amount.

But if you'll maintain to hold smaller value of capital, you're good.
I can assure you it really doesn't matter if you start with low or high bankroll. If you are greedy, even if you start with small bankroll and win you will continue to gamble and you will try to win more money.
In your opinion, how small that bankroll has to be and how small your win has to be?
Some people have a mindset that if you have a large bankroll, it would lead to a larger profit. It would but the risk that you are taking is harder and more harder to accept if you failed, it's just that you are trying to make something out of nothing and you just have to do it or you shouldn't have deposited it in the first place. You will never be satisfied if you kept thinking like that, you should set goals and when you hit that goal or near to that goal, stop. It's better to walk away with something rather than nothing and be full of regret.
You're right about that and I think preventions is better than addiction, so having no satisfaction over the activities on gambling that yoh're involved with particularly the reason why you can't control greed on gambling. If you wanted to have control on greed, you should think for a change of aspects in life.
If you are a type of person which dont really be contented specially on small profits then usually you will end up like this one on which you would really lose everything in the end. If you are not a sensible person and do only have a fixed mindset then it would really be hard to focus on other things since you will surely stick into gambling itself. You would only feel the regretion of your actions when you are already experiencing bad effects or consequences in the end.
7922  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How can gambling help you with your life? on: July 18, 2017, 01:26:18 PM
Hey! Good day i really need some answers because its about gambling in your life and other people are playing for it with heart and i just thought that how can gambling help you with your life? and do you gain something from it? does it help you to be wise or worst your attitude will change.. i need answers please!

To be honest, in my opinion gambling doesn't help anything with my life. It is more like a Stress and stress reliever at the same time. because i found gambling as a source of entertainment  and killing time but in the same time is also a stress because if you lose a huge amount of money it is stressful to think about that.

This is also my sentiments. I can't find anything from gambling that can really help me in my life. I remember when I used to gamble a lot in a land based casino, when I go home on the negative side, I'm so stressful that I don't want to worked on the next day. And the same feeling when I was also winning. And when I don't work because of loosing money, I just went out to buy things like clothes to relief my stress of losing. So its a double whammy for me. Didn't work because of stress of losing, then just buy things to relief it. Result: more money is lost on my end. LOL.
In this case you should really stop on playing gambling when you do already know that you are losing too much and didnt give good things into your own life but just stress and unwise spendings. Gambling cant really give some helpful things in our lives on major ways but there still some learnings you would able to get from it.
7923  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Has anyone ever tried medicine to control impulsive gambling? on: July 18, 2017, 12:41:56 PM
usually the medicine to control the people who became an addicted only available on rehabilitation center and i don't know if these medicine exist or not but if they're really exist i think only for those who became heavy addicted already trying that but fortunately i wasn't ever try it before
This is my first time to hear or read that there is now an available medicine to control impulsive gambling. But if ever this is a legit info it's great for people who can't control the urge to gamble. But thinking how they will drink it if they really wanna gamble and don't want to avoid it? But even though people must have a clear mind to think not to be addicted in gambling.
They wont really sure to take those medicines if they would know about it on curing impulsive gambling because those addicts do really much love to play gambling no matter what but this medicine isnt really necessary to be taken since ourselves can already cure this addiction if we are really serious on this matter.Our mindset could really help us out.
7924  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Social aspect of gambling - do you ever gamble with a friend? on: July 18, 2017, 12:06:12 PM
I never did gambling with people I just met, so I never got friends from gambling. But gambling with friends often happens, but only with old friends not with new people known.
IF you can call betting with as gambling, We sometimes bet money on who will eventually win in soccer console game, that's how my friends and i gamble.
Gambling with friends while playing console games is the most common thing teenagers do everywhere. Because playing the game console is a fun thing, and include money bets in it to make the atmosphere play more fun.

I think that's cool and I've seen many teenagers and even adults do that it it normally ends up in arguments and fights because they don't readily enter into an agreement before they gamble and some don't even have escrows so all they do is verbal bets and that can result is a fight if one party refuses to pay after a loss.

That is the worst case scenario with betting with your friends. I myself experience this because my friend refuses to pay and said to me that our betting was just a joke. It was a bad experience because you play good and ending up screw but it's good too that the betting game is not ended on a fight.

Sometimes it will happen too on others if they do not set rules for betting. To avoid this they must do a rules or they money that goes to betting are in the hands of other people so the fight or commotion will less likely to happen. If you lose just accept it.
It's not the worst, not even bad. You're just not firm in making deals. Joking is often out if gambling console games with friends, but if you are firm in making a deal, in the end he will also pay.
If you lose, you better pay up because that's how you are going to betray yourself, not just others but LIFE itself. You are a traitor if you don't keep your word, don't be so happy that you are running away with something, that's just disgraceful.
There are people who are like this on which they do ran up or they dont mind on paying up if they lose up on the deals. Some wont really mind up on how disgraceful this thing is.  Playing gambling with friends do gives excitement together with add up on deals on which who win or lose up but we should really take the responsibility on paying up.
7925  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: how to attract investors (500 BTC) for new betting concept on: July 18, 2017, 11:03:39 AM
Not even OP knows what and how ICOs work and he already sharpen his teeth for 500 fu*king bitcoins like it's candy bars Cheesy there is no such a thing as new concept in gambling, you'll always lose, if you have found a way for us to earn money out of thin air like bitcoin mining then I could give you a few tips.
ICOICOICOICOICOICOICOICOICOICO < that's the ICO train better to jump in before losing your millions Cheesy
Are you freaking kidding me? For about 500 btc? I would say it would really be hard even on 50 btc op would really have a hard time on asking it.Hes dumb enough for sure on asking on a newbie account telling about a new concept of gambling? I dont think so. ICO is the best way but accumulating such amount would be near impossible on just building a gambling site.
7926  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How can gambling help you with your life? on: July 17, 2017, 02:56:44 PM
There might be others that gamble because of entertainment but mostly of the gamblers are gambling because they want to have easy money without realizing the possibility of losing every penny they have if they will be addicted into gambling.  So for me the only thing that gambling can help one's life is a LIFE LESSON, a lesson that gambling is not the easy way of being rich.
Thats one of the lessons on which do gamblers would able to realize which theres no easy way to become rich in an instant specially on playing gambling. This game will only be helpful when we do win some amounts or even hitting jackpots since it would really patch up our financial capability but if we do extent it on longer basis then mostly the lesson or things we do earn from gambling is on how to control yourself /emotions and a better money management.
7927  Economy / Speculation / Re: Invested when BTC was at 2550 and 2320. What to do now? on: July 17, 2017, 01:52:16 PM
Hello,
I bought into BTC when it was worth both 2550 and 2320 for my personal trading.  I now have 0.2007 BTC and not sure when I should get out.  I have lost in total a hundred dollars just to the price of BTC.  Is it worth it to get out now or should I wait for it to go back up to these prices?
Depending on your current financial state. If you are on need of money then no choice but to cash-out but if you dont need money and this amounts is solely for investment then better to hold off and dont stress out too much into yourself regarding on what you have loss there. Prices would eventually rise up later on, no one knows on when but still guaranteed that it would reach up that range or even go higher that what you are expecting too.
7928  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Social aspect of gambling - do you ever gamble with a friend? on: July 17, 2017, 01:06:55 PM
Hi guys!
Many people find gambling a bad habit because of many various reasons. One of them is the fact that gambling is considered to be an asocial activity. But are they right? Do you really think that gambling is making you asocial? Or it's the right opposite? Have you ever find new friends while or thanks to gambling? Do you ever gamble with someone else? Would you take part in some kind of a team based tournament? Or can you think about anything that could make gambling more social activity? Maybe we can change this with your help!
Let us know what do you think about that
Yours OshiHugo

I used to gamble with my friends before. The most interesting part of playing gambling in the house of casino is  when you meet another friend from there. But now,I play at the online casino and my casino site is nitrogensports which is very good site,so try it and you'll never regret.
If you do have the capacity to play on an online casino then it would be really a good experience. Boosting up social relationship among other gamblers which is good but most of us do already engage on online gambling since we can able to play without the need on going out on our house which is really an advantage for those persons who dont like to gamble with other people,just like me.
7929  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you set up limits for yourself? on: July 17, 2017, 12:10:55 PM
Setting limits is the one thing I couldnt in my past years. Learnt it the hard way, lost much because of not limiting myself. Emotions and not controlling when you gamble in a game which needs pure luck will not give you any returns, you need to be practical and understand the situations before putting your money.
Not only you do have this kind of problem but all of the gamblers worldwide either on online or physical gambling places/sites. Limiting ones self is really hard to do specially when you do know that you do have money in your pocket which you would surely put into your mind that you can still keep playing since you do have still money and might win on the next bet. This is the common thing among gamblers which do aims for money on next bets and hoping to hit the jackpot but sadly ends up on getting broke.
7930  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is betting a good choice for a newbie? on: July 17, 2017, 10:07:18 AM
Be careful of how you spend your bitcoin on. Collecting bitcoin is not that easy and it requires a lot of time. If you are going to spend it on gambling, make sure you are capable of taking risks, not to mention that gambling is not 100% success. If you lose, say good-bye to your bitcoin. I recommend spending it on many other things that are beneficial for you.
yes i agree with you dude,nowdays bitcoin price cannot predict,and of course collecting bitcoin being harder,we cannot wasting our bitcoin,even newbie should playing gambling to earn bitcoin fastly,they need any skill and experience,try to play from faucet,and not take a risk with deposit any big funds.
Earning bitcoin nowadays is already hard considering that bitcoin becomes more valuable as the time progress. Betting on newbies wont really be a good choice because tendency of getting addicted would really be there. Playing with faucets would be good just trying out the game and this is how we should treat gambling but be wary on your actions because this might be the reason for you to deposit money when you lose up those faucet amounts.
7931  Economy / Speculation / Re: Lol @ Hardfork panic on: July 16, 2017, 03:54:34 PM
If it's not one thing it's another. People are always panicking and dumping their coins, and what do you know..... the price always rebounds much higher.


Yes it is now seen that bitcoin prices are rising again. Although only a few tens of dollars but this is very meaningful. There is a chance that there will be another rise some time ahead, if this is true then there will be many people who will regret having been wrong in making a decision.

There have been people waiting for $100 coins since early 2015 and it never happened. Now there are hardfork panicers discussing $1000 coins, and I doubt that will ever happen either. They will regret selling below $2000 when Bitcoin is $3000+.
If they do secure profits on those sell points then theres nothing to regret since they are on profits but its much better if they decided to wait. Pullbacks or rebounds would really happen since we arent like to dump forever on bitcoins price. If theres a storm there would be a sunny day after. Panic sellers cant be avoided since they do see the trend of the market and some may just cut lose or some are taking profits or sell just to buyback a little lower.
7932  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: When you play Dice can you feel your heart in your throat? on: July 16, 2017, 03:15:15 PM
It's really hard to gamble honestly speaking i click and i normally have a goal I'm like ok dude 3 more wins you what let's reduce the amount and when i win I'm like this is too much let's increase and finish it once it for all and slowly reach to my goal and gamble additional 0.001 to cover the withdrawal fees

Wow, I really can relate to this mate. It happened to me several times before that when I have some good earnings and was about to withdraw, I tried to bet one more time just to cover for the withdrawal fee but it turned ending with zero bankrolls because I kept on chasing the loses.
I am sure almost all gamblers here must have experienced what you did and not just once at least some 5 times too. Our greedy play better than us just to keep us struggling even a day was remaining luck. Self control could be a savior but it is not possible even it sounds good theoretically. To avoid such a frustrating moments completely I tried not to gamble but I find staying away from gambling is more struggling than dealing with losses. Honestly do not know how to lead a life with out gambling or at least without spending for gambling.
This is definitely signs of a gambling addict which you dont really know how to keep away from gambling and you feel that you more do struggle on not playing gambling rather than on chasing loses.
Self control is very crucial on this kind of field of gambling because this will surely save us on some critical scenarios specially when we are on profits because human greed will eventually come out while we do play.
7933  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What keeps you coming back??? on: July 16, 2017, 01:10:35 PM
For most of people it's much hard to accept the lose on online gambling casino every time we got cheated by that casino. That is big reason which keep to chase our lose and in the end got addiction. This kind of thinking is really big problem and that is why so we see people crying while playing.

Accepting lose is never been easy to all of us. We have different levels of pride, there are gamblers that can easily accept defeat. But for some there are that can hardly accept it. Before it is one of the reason why I'm coming back, it's pushing myself to recover my lose and there is something telling in my mind that I shouldn't accept defeat.
It's a human nature.. losing is really hard to accept no matter what game we play. It really sometimes treat them as a form  demotivation so that's why people don't really accept being a loser. Good thing you were able to recover yourself from chasing your loses. It's really not a good behavior in gambling because you will not really ended up well and recover everything.

It will pull you down when you are feeling down and especially when you lost a big amount. It's hard to accept it, you'll do whatever it takes to recover that amount because you will think and regret it most of the time. And once you are not comfortable about that lose, it will always trigger you to get back again and again.
Precisely, they are triggered to get back again because they wanted to retrieve their loses on playing gambling. And we must avoid that minset because that will bring us from addiction and deplition of our money. We should always remind that gambling isn't the way to earn profit and play only the money thay we afford to lose.

We always want to retrieve our losses and it is happening most of the time. We can't control ourselves when we are starting to recognize our losses. There's nothing we are going to think but to recover it as soon as possible. And even it will take a lot of losses as long as we can recover that with a single blow.

That is really the start of the problem when people are chasing their losses. Most of the time, these people are driven by their emotions and can sometimes missed to realize that they are already losing big money out of chasing and hoping to win.

Chasing previous lost will involve another 'big money'. And the risk will be greater each time we try to cover our lost. At this point, our emotions will become less controlled, hence the chance to lose more and more while chasing previous lost will be high.
Loses would really keep on piling up as the longer we play gambling and emotions do really play a big role here since our minds do tell us that we should keep to play to break even those loses and win big amounts and if these aims have been accompanied by our emotions then we will surely go that way and its really hard to stop once you already started.
7934  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Journey to Hell, With Bitcoins on: July 16, 2017, 09:42:30 AM
I'm not a Fan Guy of Bitcoins.
I had received payments of $3,000 for my work from client and which was hard working money while the BTC/USD price was $2700+,
And as other's were expecting the price would push up to $3K+.

Now its Going down and down and I can only see Red Candles and no support levels in the BTC/USD chart,
Guys I'm really confused what's next. Will the price go down to $1K? I'm on a Massive Loss...Don't know how to recover
 Huh  
You are not the only one having these problems and having this kind of doubt and fear but most people who do earn bitcoin from their jobs and investments. We are all experiencing loss on our earnings as of now considering on the sudden decrease of bitcoin but i do still understand why because of those rumours on august 1 event but theres nothing to worry and the best thing is to accumulate those bitcoins while they are still cheap and if you do recieve less pay then its still okay because price of bitcoin will eventually recovers up.
7935  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is gambling so addicting? on: July 16, 2017, 07:41:42 AM
Oh yeah, gambling is really exciting. Sometimes you even feel like that before gambling, you can't wait till you can end your work and gamble a bit, sadly this is sign of addiction. You also feel very nice after you win, even if it's small amount,  i guess this is second reason why we gamble - first reason is because we can win  money from gambling.

It is really exciting just because I still have money that I can afford to gamble. Sometimes I use a small amount but for some rare occasion , I might be too overboard sometimes but it is addicting for me and Im still teying hard to figure out the best way to stop gambling for myself
If you are really serious on quitting gambling since you are already aware that you are already addicted to it then better to stop already if you do see that you are risking soo much money but if not then it should be fine as long we are using small amounts on playing gambling but we should really be responsible on our actions specially gambling addictions is really a hard stuff to removes once it would come into yourself.
7936  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: List of popular Betting Strategies on: July 15, 2017, 12:37:18 PM
List of the most popular Betting Strategies can be found here: http://sportstatist.com/betting-strategies/
Why should I need them. Because I do read everywhere no strategy will be working for all the gamblers all the times. But there are people who are spending long hours in finding new strategies and modifying them suitable for their gambling characteristics still we are seeing they are facing continuous losses.

There could be thousands of gambling strategies around here. But I'm sure none of them will be working effectively for a given gambler all the times. Strategies are just a reason for continuing gambling. Honestly I do not need them.
That's for luck based games like dice, roulette, etc where you basically lose if you continue gambling no strategy would work out. For sports betting it's different, few strategies work like arbitrage betting it's also mentioned from the website of OP you could do this with sportsbook that offers risk free bets.
If we both compared luck-based to strategy games then they do really have the difference and if we are just talking about dice,slot games then no strategy would really work but this kind of habit having some strategies while you are playing is somehow enjoying for me and this is the way i do treat them,i know it wont work on longer but im quiet confident on having this ways.
7937  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can someone explain the trend of bitcoin casinos creating altcoins ? on: July 14, 2017, 09:03:59 AM
Do you think about DAO and BetKing? Many people are interested in this, or they just spamming to get tokens from bounties. My facebook page is full with people that advertise this two ICO`s, and many others of course.
BetKing was a good site, I even participated in their signature campaign a long time ago. Dean is honest guy, he had many chances to run away with big money, but he always return funds if something is not right. He is a guy worth to be followed, and as I saw that he is making a much better casino, with more games, I saw plans for poker and sports book, all that looks very nice.
He probably mean about that 2 sites since it's the only one who do make ICO as of now and do have its own token and I do agree on what you have said about dean. I'm once a player on the site and I know the transparency and credibility of the site the same on its owner and there's nothing wrong if they would create their own token as long it can be exchange to btc then it won't really be a big problem.
7938  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your reason to gamble? Fun or profit? on: July 14, 2017, 03:15:08 AM
I just do it for fun, I think if you take gambling seriously you'll just be stressed and triggered. The more you lose the chances are you'll end up betting for more, same as you win, you will just

crave for more money. So, it's better if you just do it for fun.

Yes. We all know that earning in gambling is risky but we can earn a lot from it therefore we should not treat i seriously we should learn to enjoy things in order for us to have fun and i think it can help us , it can affect our game play. So gamble because you are having fun too not only you are want to earn.

The most situation that is happening here is that when they win on the first time they tried gambling, they thought that they are lucky that is why they are confident that they are good at it, going to continue gambling even though they are losing because they have this false hope that if they are not going to quit then they are going to win this jackpot or they could take all back the money that they have lost.

Still, it is not enough that we are trying, we must also realized that gambling is not the one for us, and not the one that could make us earn money.
If we have this kind of aims since from the beginning then expect gambling will surely destroy our lives later on because this will really push us even to our limits specially on our financial capacity because you would really do play as long you do know you do have the money and you always chasing your loses later on until it will gradually swallow you up in to a pit hole which once you fall its really hard to get out thats why we should really be careful on this one.
7939  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How greedy you are? When will you stop and withdrawn? on: July 13, 2017, 04:26:15 PM
To be honest i always deposit 0.01 bitcoin from any gambling website i go and if i already doubled my bankroll then i withdrawn my profit i don't want to lose it is hard to risk big money and then seeing them losing in minutes also if you don't have full discipline on your self maybe your not into gambling places.
What you will do if you start facing losses even before you will be doubling your bankroll ? It seems targeting double the bankroll itself too greedy because there are gamblers who go for immediate withdrawing when seeing 10% of profits too.
You mean to say if a gambler is self controlled and not greedy then he will not visit gambling places ? I guess gamblers will enter gambling with no greedy mind set up but they become greedy on seeing their money growing rapidly.
This would really be the main problem on which if you tend to set a goal of 2x of your bankroll and then even on the first try out on playing gambling game then its really a different story.Its actually easy to say that 2x would be enough but if luck isnt on your side then you will surely lose up lots of more money because once you didnt get your goal you will eventually deposit even more just to cope up with the lose at the same time on reaching out your goal.
7940  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: August 1 is near on: July 13, 2017, 03:08:35 PM
Right august 1 is near and many people are curious what will happen to the price if the price down or up. I hope segwit will not affect to the price because they have posiblity that bitcoin become 2 kinds the bitcoin and the bitcoin classic. I hope the price will not down and I hope the price will be stable so we can make a lot of money. I hope also the price as of now will not decrease. Dont be panic guyz hold your bitcoin.
yes August 1st is near and still there is confusion about the segwet. i am sure that there will be no such bad effect on the price of bitcoin by the segwet and hope that bitcoin will continue increase even before 1st August arrival.
We cant be sure if it wont really affect the price of bitcoin and yet we dont still have clue if it would be activated or there would be a split or not. Im liitle bit nervous on this event since i dont really like for bitcoin to be splitted but for the sake of improvement i would gradually accept it since we dont have no choice thats why i still secure my bitcoin on my wallet as of now.
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