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8641  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Dice Game , Work the longest without loss ? With which strategy ? on: January 17, 2017, 12:31:52 PM
You can play longer but even with 1.01x odd you will get busted atleast one time in dice. So there is no any strategy that you can use to play for longer time without single loss.

One and only working strategy in dice is to cashout when you feel you are happy with profit you have made so far.  Grin
Even on 1.01x on playing dice wont really work out even you won in a long line and one lose will really wipe out those win you do have and you will keep on chasing it and would really wipe your bank roll so easily thats why we should really know how to go out when we are earning on % on our bankroll.
8642  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Get]FREE MONEY FROM BOOKMAKERS[Get] on: January 16, 2017, 04:48:23 PM
If his method to exploit bookmakers restrictions is true and since he already reveal on how to do so in public area, I guess the bookmakers wont be silent and they will update their system to prevent those things to happen. And once again, if his method works till today, I bet it wont stay longer anymore.
He wont really expose it for sure instead he will use it for himself to make money which means this thing is really just a total garbage on making such scam attempt to people here in these forum but sad for him since people on this forum is quiet wise as he expected and wont easily believe on this.Not a single penny would be thrown or passed to this man.
8643  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How casinos slots attract players to play ? on: January 16, 2017, 04:10:47 PM
Its easy, they can lure gamblers to play because they have a good promotion of the gambling site , they have a event on a gambling site or their interface is very easy to navigate even if you are a beginner you can easily play with it.
Having a user-friendly interface on a certain gambling site is really giving an effect on making people lure in on playing on the site because they could able to understand it so easily and use those bonuses that have been given and if they found out that the game is good and the saw they can make money then they would deposit therefore they are already tied up on that site.
8644  Economy / Economics / Re: How many Bitcoin do you have saved? on: January 16, 2017, 02:09:25 PM
I've saved 5 bitcoins right now and I have put them away for a long term so I will also not sell them soon.
Yes it is a good option because if you sell now maybe you still not get profit. I think not need for long term, because no one guarantee the price Will always go up. If the price reach $1,200, I recommend to sell all. And now I only have 3 btc that I save ini blockchain and xapo wallet.

That is a good move for you pal. It is what I'm doing also but for the amount of bitcoins that I have saved. I didn't manage to have as much as 1 bitcoin. I only have some few but still I wanting to keep on saving. I can't save on a daily basis because there are times that I need to cash it out for some purposes that I really need money but still I will make myself force to save a lot.

I also force myself to save money to buy more Bitcoin. But I regret that I did not sell them when the Bitcoin was 1000+

Don't worry, sooner or later bitcoin will again cross the 1000+ mark. given the volatility of current market anything could happen. So it prices keep on dropping, one could buys steps by step(small amount at time).  And if prices go up depending on preference sell btc for better margin. or purchase few more btc.s

I wish that it is going to land again with that $1,000 or even higher. I have been pushy to myself to keep on saving and as a matter of fact, when the price did fall, I didn't have the chance to buy also since my savings is not even enough or if I do have, there are some other priorities that I need to spend my money for.
I think all of use is wishing for the price to rise again that level. But since the price has fall a bit, we should not stop on this, we must continue to buy so we can add more on our investment. Do it for the future as what we see is still gonna be back again and even higher than that.

Who doesn't want to make the price land again to thousand bucks? It depends on your capacity if you can buy bitcoins, go buy a lot of it but as long you do have different source of getting bitcoin. You will be fine and you just need to make bitcoins as your spare money, not totally you are going to make it as your own wealth.

It does not always have the opportunity to use Bitcoin. Yet developed infrastructure. But, if I have free money, then I have them converted into Bitcoin.
Now I have almost 2 Bitcoins
Good to hear that you are saving bitcoin by buying it with your fiat and you are doing a good decision since bitcoin is really good as an investment since we know the price does increase in near future.For me I don't have too much bitcoin in my wallet now because im always using my bitcoin on my expenses.
8645  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How many bets do you we need to do in sports betting a day? on: January 15, 2017, 02:54:53 PM
Sky is the limit as long you do have the money to bet on because there are some sport gamblers do bet on the games which they didnt know if someone gives tips then they usually put the bet on and some doing just parlays on a single day.It depends on the interest or hobby of a sports gambler.
8646  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Anyone ever stop gambling? but then gamble again? on: January 15, 2017, 01:37:20 PM
As long as you only bet what you can afford, I personally do not see any reason to stop gambling. You can gamble your hole life and get happiness hormones, but if you try to drink your hole life, then you will see that you will destroy yourself.

Some people just cant distinguish what they can or can't afford. They just get their hands on whatever amount they could see with the hope of multiplying it. Drinking or gambling is actually not relevant at all, you dont get anything in return after drinkin except for being drunk and stupid while you get money if you win in gambling

Well just as you've said, not amyone knows what they can and what they can't afford so it's not the same with all gamblers. For me a person who knows how to gamble responsibly would be able to stop and resume gambling anytime he wants without compromising anything. It's all about perception for me. Some people who have been too addicted would find it better not to gamble anymore after they quit and some can do so simply because they know reaponsibility

Yes , for anyone who knows how to gamble well, who knows how gambling should be treated, they will be easy to stop gambling even though they are gamblers in a long time. People who are wise in gambling and discipline will be easy to control themselves, and it would be easy to stop whenever they want.
Yeah there are people or gamblers who are like this on which they do have strong self discipline and control on playing gambling which they could able to tell themselves on when to stop and when to play since they already know what are the thing commonly happen on doing gambling and most of these persons are those who are involve in gambling for long time.
8647  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If you could create your own Bitcoin gambling site, what would you do better? on: January 15, 2017, 10:58:50 AM
If i have the capability on making a bitcoin gambling site i would not create dice sites because it is somehow saturated already and you have lots of competitors actually i dont have any idea since there are lots of good gambling/casino sites do operate to day.I would rather to create a casino site which do have a good ui,secure funds,fast withdraw and deposits and good support.
8648  Economy / Gambling / Re: Primedice, refund my money, or I will be die on: January 15, 2017, 07:47:01 AM
You should not gamble if you are afraid to lose money and its really a bad idea to play that money and risk it on gambling and we all know that chances of being broke is high thats why you lost.Sorry to hear that but thats reality and you should move on and dont mind on asking for refund because they wont really do that thing.Lose is a lose and you cant change that.
8649  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to play gambling in a smart way? on: January 13, 2017, 09:19:37 AM
Gambling in a smart way is possible if you are just betting with low numbers but I do not see any other smart thing about it..


That's a smart way of gambling if you are going to bet with small amounts on a daily basis. Also a smart thing is that you are going to play if you are in good mood. Because somehow it can affect the way you gamble and your play style. As we know if we will bet in rage, most of the time we are just going to keep on losing.

I do not call that even smart because I think gambling is based on luck so it does not really care how you do it..
Without a strategy in gambling because you think it will just be based on your luck anyway is a sign of laziness and I can say you will not be enjoying your way in the long run, we gamble to enjoy but we need to be smart by having our original method that we can assess and improve from time to time.
Strategy is just only good depending on the game you are playing because there are gambling games does really require skills and some needs purely on luck and doesnt really need some techniques even young ages could able to do that.Smart way on playing gambling is you know how to manage your bankroll and doesnt let it deplete so fast.
8650  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling Excuses on: January 13, 2017, 08:23:49 AM
Did you ever gamble with other's money to pay your own debts or otherwise to solve a certain problem through gambling?
I know some people who do this thing on which they use other peoples money just to have a capital on playing gambling and luckily they could able to make money on that one but if im on that situation i wont really do such thing because its just like suicide and i cant take the risk incase those money would lose all and you would really have a big problem instead of making money.
8651  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling loses and wins on: January 13, 2017, 07:21:32 AM
I samapai forget how much money I spent on gambling. probably because too many and not just one gambling site that I often use. but to get a win we really should not be greedy,learn from where I was finally able to get profit from gambling
Read carefully before you make a post.
If you're talking you are learning from your mistake in dice games or other gambling games based on luck, it's totaly a lie. You can't learn anything because it's depends from your luck. When you are making profit, it's all because your luck, no other else.

lol of course you can learn something from anything even it is a games that based on luck .
the lesson you can get from it for example , to not spend money too much as dice have a fast proccess to see the outcome.
you can lost million dollar within a minute, but you can win it easily too, worth to the risk actually.
Is that you called by "learning"? I think it's more about "Just gambling what you can affrod to lose", we can't learn anything when we gamble on dice, when we started rolling, it's determine from our luck.
Sports betting is one of example you can take as a lesson whatever it will win or lose (because it's not pure game based on luck, we should analyze first from their previous match/performance)

yeaa it is , the point is you shouldn't gambling excessively and push the limit .
especially if you gamble on dice, there is no way to ean money in the long run there.
anyway i am not sure if you fully understand what i mean about this ''learning'' .
Actually there are gambling games  do really differ in the sense on how we gonna play and some needs strategies and most of them do really need luck.Pushing our limits and making short temper would really give us trouble.Theres no profits in longer runs thats why we should exit on the right place and on the right time on playing gambling if we saw we are on green then get out.
8652  Other / Archival / Re: Which one is more risky? Skill-based gambling or trading? on: January 13, 2017, 06:41:41 AM
Gambling stays more risky because you do not have any grab on it you lose or you win, trading is still a bit on the control.

If you think that gambling stays more risky and what do you think about trading? Isn't it risky either? Both of them are risky and it will just depend on the person on how he is good for each of them. Just like me, I can say that sometimes I am good with skill-based gambling but there are times that it is really not doing good with me, vice versa with trading. It really depends on the person.
Gambling and trading do really have risk and they are really different on how you gonna execute them and how good you are.There are gambling games do fully rely on luck and some needs skills and knowledge on which you will also need on sustaining into trading.We know that its not an easy thing and it really takes time before you could able to master it and lessen the risk.
8653  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you feel shameful for being a gambler? on: January 13, 2017, 06:05:59 AM
No I do not feel shameful for it at all because its something that I love to do and I never do it with large amounts.


I don't feel shameful for being a gambler because it hasn't discredit me as a person and gambling is not a crime  which i commited all I just wanted is fun and stress reliever unless I steal the bitcoin I used to gamble, that's probably shameful feelings. As long as you enjoyed playing for good purposes without being addicted and you can manage well with self control then nothing to shame with.

Yes me either, why would I feel shame with it if I'm just gambling for fun and sometimes hoping for a small amount of winning. I don't even commit any illegal or criminal act upon my gambling. And the most important thing is that, every time I gamble, I don't ask someone to give me money that I will gamble, it all came from my pocket.

you will be ashame of being a gambler if you are using money that didn't come from your pocket, like your parents money given to you for your allowances. if you doing that thing and didn't feel a little bit of shame, i think there is a little bit problem on that person. Being a gambler is actually a bad image because of money involvement but it is just a case to case basis because all people have different point of view in each situation.
So you think that it is bad to generazlie that gambling is bad?
I know your question is not for me, but in general I would say gambling is not bad. It depends on your approach, and we know that it existed to give us entertainment, if you treat gambling that way, you will never have a problem and the longer you play the more you get entertain.
It really depends on the approach of a certain person on how he gonna treat gambling and as you said if it gives us entertainment and we are not longing or aiming for profits then it should be fine and its not really bad because gambling is designed that way but there are really people do really aim for money thats why they got broke because their expectations arent met on the end.
8654  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Worst mistake in gambling on: January 12, 2017, 04:39:11 PM
Worst mistake in gambling is gambling lool

No it isn't, we are the ones who are making gambling as a worst mistake but simply not being a responsible gambler. But because we think that gambling is going to be the source of income is that the worst thing that we are always thinking. And upon having a lot of lose then the blame will always goes to gambling but not to ourselves.

You need to catch up, there is no bigger mistake in gambling than you or I gambling. Aka don't make the mistake of thinking you can control the outcome of gambling or think you will win. It isn't going to happen.

Right, i agree, no one is perfect gambler here, Responsible gambler is really difficult to being a gambler. Because our first mistake is that when we start to play gambling than later on we are too much involve in it, than we forget that we have lost a big amount. In every bet, we have new thinking of winning, but in fact during that period, we have lost our money. So as a gambler, i think it is really difficult to being a responsible gambler. So don't think that it is worst mistake.   
Gambling is designed to be appealing and addictive so anyone with an addictive personality could always run into trouble when gambling.
When it comes to gambling i know that the house always wins in the end and it should only ever been seen as entertainment so i don't get caught up in trying to chase any loses.
Agree it does depend on the personality of such person and as you mentioned there are people who easily fall into addiction because of their behavior and personality.Some may get hooked some may not and therefore we should really sensible and aware while we are playing gambling to avoid of being get addicted.Chasing losses would really put you to trouble.

Well that's one mistake that would really drain you of money. Chasing your loses i think should be considered one of the major mistakes and reasons why people get the negative effects of gambling. Though i think it's really not for us to tell because some people are actually good at making money out of gambling so i don't agree that the worst mistake is to start gambling at all. Responsible thinking is they key for me as most errs committed by gamblers root from getting too much emotionally involved and with that loses logical and reasonable thinking
"Responsible thinking" For me this would be the best thing should be in ourselves when we are playing gambling because of this thing it will surely limit you into your actions on playing it and if you are sensible enough you are always aware on the current situation of your plays.If you found out that you are gaining money on that day then you will stop and play again for tommorow and this is a good step because you know how to control.
8655  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Who can tell that when our luck come to us? on: January 12, 2017, 03:32:10 PM
perhaps no one can say that luck is on your side, you can feel tpai of winnings. if you win with a large amount and it happened in a row, maybe it is your lucky day. well, but again, no one can be sure when it will happen.
You are right we can not predict that when our luck will come. I think only a few people will get full day luck in gambling. For others, it will come 1 or 2 times. Suppose if it comes in a row yes it is your lucky day. But don't get excited and don't try more luck on the same day you may chance to lose your all winnings on the same day. Where ever luck is there Greedy also there. 

we only can feel that our luck is come but no one will know as they can not feel what we are feeling in gambling so we need to know in every step we make when we are gamble. after we can feel our luck is come, then is up to you to continue playing gambling or just stop the games and leave the place before you are going to loss.
You cant feel it when luck comes to you and the only time you could able to tell that you are lucky is after you play gambling because you will eventually see the results of that game then if you saw you win simultaneously then you will say that you are luck and other players would say the same thing too thats why no one really knows or see indications of being lucky before playing gambling.
8656  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Controlling your temper in gambling on: January 12, 2017, 01:15:03 PM
Patience is a must with gambling. Importantly when you have big plans of earning good through bitcoin, even without making strategies about the event you might win but winning without patience is hard. The reason is that when you loose patience after a failure in event you will just think of it and continue to place more bets on upcoming events. This in a short results in total loss. So anger is something which need to be avoided and patience which needs to be added to continue gambling with success.

It is an important factor to gamble always in a calm mind and if you are also patient enough every time you gamble. You can reduce the chance of losing, because if you are acting and does have an attitude like that. You won't bet on a rage mode that can lead you to a lot of loses which is basically the most common problem and error of a gambler.
Emotion really plays an important role on playing gambling because if you let those emotion control you then you will definitely done wrong things since your emotion cant be control already by your mind which means you will made wrong decisions and following your emotion on which you are right this is the most common error on most gambler thats why we should stay calm so that we would know the things we should do.

Yeah that's why most of the time when I gamble. I just keep on making myself on the cool mode so that I'm not going to do some rage bets. I already learned from my past mistakes that I wasn't able to make myself calm and control my emotion, so I went on losing a lot on a single day and it was followed then because I don't know how to control my temper.
Well im glad to hear that you already learn from your past mistakes which is good actually because you wont do such thing on the second round and its really important to be cool on playing gambling so that it wont affect much our betting style and we would eventually enjoy the game.
8657  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Controlling your temper in gambling on: January 12, 2017, 12:03:53 PM
Patience is a must with gambling. Importantly when you have big plans of earning good through bitcoin, even without making strategies about the event you might win but winning without patience is hard. The reason is that when you loose patience after a failure in event you will just think of it and continue to place more bets on upcoming events. This in a short results in total loss. So anger is something which need to be avoided and patience which needs to be added to continue gambling with success.

It is an important factor to gamble always in a calm mind and if you are also patient enough every time you gamble. You can reduce the chance of losing, because if you are acting and does have an attitude like that. You won't bet on a rage mode that can lead you to a lot of loses which is basically the most common problem and error of a gambler.
Emotion really plays an important role on playing gambling because if you let those emotion control you then you will definitely done wrong things since your emotion cant be control already by your mind which means you will made wrong decisions and following your emotion on which you are right this is the most common error on most gambler thats why we should stay calm so that we would know the things we should do.
8658  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is it Sports Betting is better than other type of gambling? on: January 12, 2017, 11:08:27 AM
Sports betting is better than other type of gambling like provably fair games (dice, slot, etc) because sports betting is not have provably fair. For me sports betting is completely fair and have many options to bet for each match. The odds also good though, many variant options on bet and many kind of sports that you can bet.

It is better if the game is not rigged, the problem in here lies on the game internal system itself.  Even we are skillful in data analysis and  knows the competing team, it will be nullify if the management of the game rigged the result.  But still I think it is still better than any type of gambling where the outcome relies solely on luck.
Correct,so this really signifies that results arent that accurate or expected on relying completely on analysis and as you said no matter how good you analyze it if the problem is internal and tend to be fixed game already then you are destined to lose that particular game which is really happening on sportsbetting world thats why this is called gambling because results are random even the results are obvious already but isnt still guaranteed.
8659  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Worst mistake in gambling on: January 12, 2017, 10:09:54 AM
Worst mistake in gambling is gambling lool

No it isn't, we are the ones who are making gambling as a worst mistake but simply not being a responsible gambler. But because we think that gambling is going to be the source of income is that the worst thing that we are always thinking. And upon having a lot of lose then the blame will always goes to gambling but not to ourselves.

You need to catch up, there is no bigger mistake in gambling than you or I gambling. Aka don't make the mistake of thinking you can control the outcome of gambling or think you will win. It isn't going to happen.

Right, i agree, no one is perfect gambler here, Responsible gambler is really difficult to being a gambler. Because our first mistake is that when we start to play gambling than later on we are too much involve in it, than we forget that we have lost a big amount. In every bet, we have new thinking of winning, but in fact during that period, we have lost our money. So as a gambler, i think it is really difficult to being a responsible gambler. So don't think that it is worst mistake.   
Gambling is designed to be appealing and addictive so anyone with an addictive personality could always run into trouble when gambling.
When it comes to gambling i know that the house always wins in the end and it should only ever been seen as entertainment so i don't get caught up in trying to chase any loses.
Agree it does depend on the personality of such person and as you mentioned there are people who easily fall into addiction because of their behavior and personality.Some may get hooked some may not and therefore we should really sensible and aware while we are playing gambling to avoid of being get addicted.Chasing losses would really put you to trouble.
8660  Economy / Securities / Re: Not only for Brave! Low - Medium - High Risk Investment from 0.25 Btc on: January 11, 2017, 05:29:09 AM
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Ther is no scam risk thank to a trusted method that allow you to have your bitcoin always available.

I could offer 3 kind of investment:

1) Low risk -> Expected return about 10-15% Daily -> Loss Risk really low (under 10%)
2) Medium  risk -> Expected return about 35-50% Daily -> Loss Risk low (under 30%)
3) Highrisk -> Expected return over 70% Daily -> Loss Risk medium (up to 50%)

It 'a great opportunity for those who want to open speculative positions on financial market and get huge profit margins (even over 100% in a few hours). There is obviously a risk of loss which, thanks to a series of hedging transactions, will be reduced.

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Just want to know on what you are trading?I assume youre trading on forex since you mentioned about hedging which is risky if you arent professional enough.10-15% daily is good and showing the levels of risk people might see it a very good investment but the issue would be trust on how investors could really be sure that this is not just a scam.
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