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8841  Economy / Securities / Re: How much interest is reasonable for you? on: November 26, 2016, 06:17:19 AM
10-25% monthly for me.
Jesus, that seems to me to be an outrageously high interest rate to expect.  On the other hand...risk is supposed to be proportional to reward, so I would assume for that rate you'd be <ahem> on the securities forum here.  I've seen some of the worst scam attempts ever there.  No interest rate could probably be too high to invest in one of those dogs.
As he mentioned above he could able to make 10-25% a week or month with the ways of trading which is really possible especially when youre good at it. 25% is just enough to achieve but if we are talking on some investments we could really say its impossible and the ones who offered this kind of  service are those sites which are total scams. Claiming huge returns for a certain investment is unbelievable.
8842  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: The Truth Behind New Altcoins on: November 26, 2016, 05:38:51 AM
Its not already a new thing for me but for those newbies out there for sure they dont have enough knowledge to trace this kind of doings on which most new coins or altcoins as of todays are just total crap or trash. Thats why investing on them especially on ICO will somehow hesitates me to put up money because of these circumstances but when i saw a coin which really do have the potential and roadmaps thats the time i will put my money on.
8843  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Is investing in mining still worth it? on: November 26, 2016, 04:42:19 AM
Right now, I'm planning to invest more or less $100 in HashNest since I've used their services before, but on a very very small scale.

$100 would get me about 1TH. Would it still be worth it? Based on some calculations, the ROI would be just under 90 days. Their prices are pretty stable.
I think yes. I'd manifested on that site abd I earn profit. More profitable if I am using less electric power cost.
I have invest $500 dollar on last month and now I'm gaining profit then put it in investment again.
Investing on hashnest is also a good thing though but it wont be a guarantee to last forever and also mining difficulty would be the  problem you will experience on the long run and you will surely notice it when your profits or earning will be lessen.If you do have the money and a low electricity cost on your country then mining would be a good move but suggesting a cloudmining site,i dont think so.
8844  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What is the minimum amount to start as a trader? on: November 26, 2016, 03:42:36 AM
1,000 satoshis are enough for some traders to make profits and some people lose their money even in the scale of 1 to 10 bitcoins, yes don’t get surprised. A trader is a person who analyzes the market condition and trade according to it. You should invest your time first in order to start the trade instead of putting money first. Gain experience with small amount trades and then eventually increase your capital. You can start trade with any amount you wish, good luck.
Starting on small amounts would be the ideal move when you do tend to engage trading for the first time because if you decided to put up directly huge amounts,for sure that money will be gone in an gradual way.Knowledge and experience would be the key to be successful on trading and we all know that its not an easy thing because doing trading is not just buying low selling high thing.It requires analysis and experience which you could able to gain when you are trading up for a matter of time.
8845  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling vs Betting on: November 26, 2016, 03:14:06 AM
We all know betting is better then gambling because you have a certain degree of control. I wonder who of you have gone from gambling to only betting now much did your profits increase and what difference does it make ?

I did not understand about this question because I think  gambling and betting the same thing equally in gambling
betting one type of gambling, gambling consists of several types of games one is betting commonly used in sports gambling

If you ask me about betting and some types of gambling I'm more profit from betting but not from winning  bet only profit from the various promotions and contests  Grin
me too, something of me is confusing about the question, but the difference of the two is that gambling is a game involving money then betting is what you use to do if you want to play that game.  Grin wahahaha! I don't think you all understand me. But thanks for reading anyway.
It's right mate, I am also confused, I figured gambling and betting both are same, because in both case money is involved, But you clarified my doubt, Gambling means game involved money, and Betting means we will put our money in a game, wow nice answer mate, Now I understand what exactly OP is asking. Thanks. 
No matter what angle you will see it or define it, still a nonsense thing to ask because gambling and betting are just the same because how would you do gambling if you dont bet? Therefore, betting is definitely a part of gambling and theres no point on comparing them.
yeah that's right. i actually had to reread the first comment saying that we all know betting is better than gambling lol. whichever way you put it there's really nothing to compare. it would just confuse you thinking about it if there is a difference between the two.
Its just really confusing when you tend to compare these two things because they are both the same.Yes ive read it too on which some people do say that betting is higher than gambling which really makes me laugh because people dont have any idea on what hes saying as long he have anything to post on this thread and making useless post  just to get the post qouta. Betting is part of Gambling and theres no need to argue here.
8846  Other / Archival / Re: New forum for bitcoiners on: November 24, 2016, 04:34:14 PM
Newly created forum.
*** Board for Service Announcements, useful for promoting faucets and others.
+ Many useful boards.
http://bitcoinbar.website
Check if it's useful for you.  Smiley Smiley Smiley
Im glad that theres another bitcoin forum have been created but its just like to the past forums that are being introduced here before and also the template and design being used on your website i do already see it before but in a different name(which i cant remember now).Im not discouraging you but people will really tend to go on the most reputable bitcoin forum which is here. Well good luck, you really need good advertisement regarding on your new forum.
8847  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: ethtrade..Has anyone heard about them? on: November 24, 2016, 03:45:08 PM
Checked both https://ethtrade.org/team and https://ethtrade.org/about couldn't find the face or even name of the persons who are behind this. 25%+ per month return sound really high and hard to believe they are really doing trade with all those investments. I will say better not to take risk of giving your money in the hand of anonymous guy behind this site.

Thats the main thing i search when i do try to surf on their website on which i have to find the faces to those person behind it which in the end im failed and didnt see one and thats a violation already when you are seeking on a legit investment. This actually a investment site on which you will put up your money and they will trade them for you and making 25% month on your money which is already good. I remember marlive.com using the same scheme but in the end they end up on scam.
8848  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Someone told me HASHOCEAN is coming back on: November 24, 2016, 02:38:47 PM
I hope it doesn't! This is one of the longest running Ponzi scam that happened. I invested here but I lost more than what I earned. They ran with all the coins they had with them after three years. I think the first investors profited here tho. So I think those guys will be the ones wanting Hashocean back.

I think they didn't last for 3 years. Looks the scheme lasted for about 8 months. The information they were paying since 2013 or something like that was a lie, manipulated information to make people believe they were really legit, because if that was a  Ponzi scheme, it couldn't live for 3 years or more. Anyway sorry for your loss, better to don't risk money anymore on this kind of site.
That was a sure lie and a true manipulation and im a fool who believe on that such claim which i already  realize when they became a scam. They didnt really operate for long yers hence the website is only made on january 2016 which means only a year and few months until they become scam and that was before halving. They really did have a plan to become scam because they are securing the bitcoins that they accumulated and for sure they would not come back. They are now enjoying our money.
8849  Other / Archival / Re: Which one is more risky? Skill-based gambling or trading? on: November 24, 2016, 01:08:02 PM
Both of them are risky, but for me gambling is more risky eventhough it is skill based gambling, no matter how good is your skill you will lose, when you lose in gambling you lose all of your bet, while in trading if you predicted the wrong movement and you lost money, you wont lost all of your money at once
This is truly correct even though they are both risky but still they have differences regarding on a particular situation, just as you mentioned on gambling the chance of losing in a fast way is high compare on trading which you could gradually put your money on a particular coin with a limited amount , you can still make it on gambling but they really differ on the luck needed in able to be profitable.
8850  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What if POKEMON GO let people earn Bitcoin? on: November 24, 2016, 11:21:29 AM
Pokemon Go hype is dead already and the user or players of it drops drastically which means popularity of the game is not good and the remaining players are just those people who uses bot for sure on farming and i dont think using or connecting bitcoin with it is still worth and i dont think developers will implement this thing on their own game.If its already available then its really an advantage for bitcoins users.
8851  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your aim in gambling???? on: November 23, 2016, 02:39:50 PM
Hey guys i want to know what is your aim while gambling do you take it as way to get fun and excitement? Or your aiming to get more money and have a living for this thing?

It's never for fun and excitement for me. I have a few people in my circle who make a living from sports bets. I follow their path and try to make my own. The aim is always make more money, it's all about the money. When you make money fun, and excitement also come with it, like in the same package. Smiley

The sports betting will not give more fun if you want real fun in gambling then play casino games. These games are unpredictable, and it will give instant result. So you will get more excitement and entertainment. Finally you will get frustration also because in casino games the winning percentage is less. My aim in gambling to get fun and if possible make some pocket money.
Then you have  double aims on playing gambling which is really normal for most gamblers.Some may like to play sportsbetting and some may like to play casino its really up to peoples reference on which they could  able to feel the thrill on playing those games. Aiming for profits on gambling are normal since people really do love  to earn money on fast way and some just for entertainment only.
8852  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: time to buy Dogecoin on: November 23, 2016, 01:50:46 PM
i am making dogecoin as another investment like bitcoin and when the price is down like yesterday, i am buying some amount with my bitcoin. i think dogecoin is good option too when we want to choose another coins to make invest and we can wait for the up price because i am believe that dogecoin is ready to gets high again.
Since the price of Dogecoin still low until now (29sats/DOGE), i think so if this is the right time to buying more Dogecoin. Last year, Dogecoin going up more than 100sats/DOGE, hope this will repeating again. The only problem is we don't know when Dogecoin price will up/rising.
No one would really know on when to rise its price but i think its somehow impossible to rise up again its price because only few people do tend to buy it and also im still have hopes on this coin because even how hard it moves its price but still its included on the top altcoins which is really good and could able to survive for 5 years. This coin is next to bitcoin when it was created but it didnt grow like bitcoin as of now.
8853  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How work Fibonacci strategy? on: November 23, 2016, 01:05:53 PM
How work Fibonacci strategy?

Who really use it and make profit?
Fibonacci numbers are most useful in trading to predict the next possible range of market movements. But I am not exact aware of any strategy using this series of numbers in gambling.

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Start at the beginning of the sequence and every time you lose a bet, move one number to the right. Whenever you win a bet, start again at the beginning of a sequence.
Google showed this. Sounds similar to martingale.

Related youtube video on 'Fibonacci Betting System Explained' : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZyVEe1ORTE

Thanks for the youtube link for the explanation. I am also looking for this strategy as I used the binary style, when I bet keep on doubling Smiley some times I lost, and not a good one in the long run.  Grin
In doing binary trading doing martingale doesnt work anytime and you must have a big bankroll or a big account  that could able to withstand 7-10 levels then its possible  to cope up with  loss and make profits with this strategy but its really better to follow the trend and use only martingale if lose but when you are on a trend usually max lose is only 2-3x which is okay. Thanks for the link too its really useful for me.
8854  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Ups and Downs ! on: November 23, 2016, 09:18:29 AM
What do you think about the ups and downs of the currency Bitcoin ?
Whether it's an advantage or a disadvantage?

No disadvantages here, only profit chances. A good thing about bitcoin is the price going up and down all day long.
Traders can make more profit along the day, just buying and selling btcs. Good method to earn more and more with this currency. And in the end of the day we don't need to worry, because we know the btc price never will go down a lot, we have the sure this coin won't die.
You're right, maybe only a few people who would accept the loss of this rare occurrence. But, although the possibility of losing is very small, we still must be careful in trade.
Losing on trading possibility is not actually small because if you dont have enough knowledge on trading it for sure you will lose some of your money specially we are now on increasing price state.If you buy on a low price then the price shoots up then you will surely wait for long time if bitcoins price will go drop again. Trading really needs knowledge on when you will buy and sell and it really needs some analysis.
8855  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Worst mistake in gambling on: November 23, 2016, 05:05:07 AM
I remember being playing some slot of bejeweled, and i were able to get something like 15 euros bonus, i had deposited 20 euros and i wente to 38 euros, but i were a greedy person i tryed to achieve big value with those, the result were i ended all, next week i had deposited 50 euros and lost 25 euros on the same game and after the loss i stopped gamble.
good thing you realize mate i think every one of us only realized much bigger loss when it played with greedy thinking if we always wanted to win big and if we always wanted to chase and regain our loses its not good and its a big mistake for sure it will ended up losing more and more.
yeah the biggest mistake that most people did is to keep chasing the past lost
everyone will ended up losing if they keep repeating it
self control needed in this case as losing control causing you keep do chasing
remember always to gamble to get entertain so there will be no more a mistake like that.
Chasing always your past lost is really an bad idea because greediness and hopes will surely come out and its really hard to control it when it tries to overcome you. Self control will really the best thing to stop this kind of feeling because if you let this thing to control you then expect more lose in the long run and you will surely regret that thing when you  realize that you dont have money left in your pocket.
8856  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is GAMBLING? on: November 22, 2016, 12:32:30 PM
I want ask mostly people are saying in Gambling we loss everything, but they are still playing gambling.
WHY?
Then people saying that it is Game and fun so we are playing.
I want ask you, Is it Game so you are playing, otherwise what is Gambling?
1. GAME
2. INVESTMENT
3. BUSINESS  

Gambling is  also a game which is  included  on your  options but there are other games which doesnt involve money though like  playing on sports games and all types which no money is being risked and also business and investment are still the same too which you are putting up money and make it grow so that you will gain profits in the future or in the long run. I will definitely choose these things rather than focusing on gambling because we all know chances of  lossing money in gambling is high.
8857  Economy / Services / Re: Byteball Signature Campaign(Under new management) on: November 22, 2016, 02:24:10 AM
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8858  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Good online-cloud mining on: November 21, 2016, 09:58:59 AM
Hi!

I am new, an i am looking for good online/cloud mining websites. Where you can Mine BTC online.

You know any good Sites?

Rather don't there are far too many scams around and you will lose all your investment. Rather invest in altcoins  or something similar.
Spread the money out never all in one investment.

But you should make sure that the altcoin you are investing at is a good coin wich have great vision for more upcoming project and updates, since some of coins are just made to scam or for manipulation purposes, and we just crashed out the thoughs and money maker thinking on cloudminings since as for now they would never be profitable again and not in the future, it is talk and figured out as scam for so many times and people should listen to this for their own safety.

Previously  i observed  that ICO are  legit ones  because   they totally  launched a   good altcoin  on  earlier  years  but  there are really people  who want to scam  people  thats why they  make the advantage  to  make a coin and  launch  an ICO  and when  the  amount  fund  is already enough some  deves would tend to run and some  when  a coin launches  they  just  dump it right away which is  really devestating and  would really lose  up money.
8859  Economy / Services / Re: [BetKing] Signature Campaign | Fixed rates | Full Member - Legendary (Open) on: November 21, 2016, 08:28:16 AM
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8860  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: bitminer.io real or scam? on: November 20, 2016, 05:21:30 AM
I have good experience with this service. I have used it for a while. The upgrades make sense and are well priced as well as affordable for less wealthy people, too. However, I advise you to consider the opinions above me. Probably, I was just lucky in the past and I do not use the service anymore.

You must have been lucky if you received any payout from them. This normally happens to the first people to use any scam service. Once the scammers feel they have accumulated enough, they stop paying and disappear with peoples money. I tired their free service but so far I have pending withdrawals for more than two months.

You could able to withdraw  the  earnings  if you deposit  on their site. I could say that   joining  this  kind of  cloudmining  sites  are  just  pure  hyip  which  they gone  if they get enough  money  from their members. There are still some  people  who make profits  especially to those  who  join  on earlier  times  when  it was  just  launching. Investing  money on this sites  is too risky  because the chance of  losing  money  is high.
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