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8921  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: zCRASH or zMOON? on: November 10, 2016, 12:42:08 PM
Theres  no need to ask  on here because  the  chart  would speak  for  itself  and  its  a zCRASH for sure. You could  see the difference on  how  much  zcash drop  its price  compare  to the whooping  launch  price of 3000+  bitcoin  until  it drop to the  lowest  price of  0.2 which  you could  say a total dump for this  coin but  now  ive  visting  again  poloniex  to check the  price it somehow  rise   up to  0.3 btc which  indicates that zcash  might  stabilizing  its price for now.
8922  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Going all in on a Hillary win bet on: November 10, 2016, 07:41:02 AM
At first, infact in these couple of weeks i strongly believed Hilary Clinton was going to win, however seems MR Trump is leading and taking a hold of Major States, so i would bet all in on Clinton
the odds for hillary clinton to become the next US president much larger in live betting .

as currently trump leading on electoral vote , but i still believe hillary clinton will be the next US president not trump he is totally a joke. let's see how much the odds reach for hillary clinton to win , i am going to bet on her no matter what.

A joke that woukd be the next president of US. Although he is a joke, dont forget that the votr is real and he has alot of supporter. It may seems that he is just a foold however most likely that he is going to win the election. Bookies know what might happen and currently the odds for trump is at 1.01
shit happened already , donald trump are the number 1 now to rule the world.

i just curious on what he promised a plan on his first 100 days program including to investigate hillary clinton. luckily i did not go all in for hillary clinton , i just lost a couple hundreds dollar yesterday so dumb i am.
We  would really wait for  his   actions  on next 100 days   and   i heard  about  on  his  plans when  he was  just  on  a campaign. Some   have  negative  insights  on  his  ruling  but who  knows. Its  up to  him  on  how  he gonna  handle america  on  his hands. Lucky for you  that  you didnt   put all in  on  clinton  because  if you do then  you  lose up for sure and   others  who  bet  on  clinton. 
8923  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: how much amount of bet you prefer? on: November 10, 2016, 06:00:55 AM
how much amount of bet you prefer?

If You are Doing Gambling Then Always Use 1% Of your Total Capital You are Using in Gambling Because You Need to Manage the Risk Involved in Gambling And As We All Know that Gambling Depends Upon Pure Luck, So I Don't Prefer Gambling to anyone Because it will wreck Your Life.....
So I Suggest You to Stay Away From Gambling.....

1% is actually consider quite big bets. I know a lot of sport better, they use only like 0.1% to bet and they try to maintain a daily bet of max of 1% on their bankroll. So they can do like 10 bets on 0.1%.

Its really  up to  players decision  on  how   he  gonna manage  his bankroll,  yes   those  sport bettors  use  minimal bets  so that  they could  widely  bet  for other  options  but   if  you  do  play  on dice you would need to set the  odds, some  may  choose  98-99% of   winning  chance just to get  1%  on  their  bankroll  but   still risky thing  to do   because  if  you  hit  that  1% you  would surely  lose  up   huge amounts
8924  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Will it working? on: November 10, 2016, 05:00:33 AM
Hi,

I am not new in bitcoin but I am new in trading..  Smiley

And I just want to ask people who have experience in trading:

If I will make bitstamp.net bot which will automatically sell/buy BTC on price changing for example: if bitcoin price change on -10 cents - BUY and then wait until it +20 cents in price and SELL.

So my bot will just buy or sell on price changing. Will it working???

I have ~1000 usd in BTC so I will start from this amount. I know that bitcoin changes price every minute so which is the best percent for changing? 10%, 1% Huh

Give me the best formula for getting profit from price changing generally percents. Should it wait until bitcoin price will change a bit (for some cents) or for a few dollars?

Thanks in advance. I am new on it so please help me.  Roll Eyes
Trading bots are not bad hence they  would really help you  to automated  trading but its  much  better to make  manual  trading   rather  than  on automatic because   you would surely  learn  up things  especially on bitcoins price. As  you trade for  long you  would really  understand  it, YOu  have  enough  amount on starting  trading to bitcoin  but  price  doesnt  move that fast  on daily basis sometimes it  takes  weeks or months  it really depends on the  movement  of  bitcoins price.
8925  Economy / Marketplace / Re: How do you know when a site tries to scam you? on: November 09, 2016, 04:05:26 PM
We will know if a site tries to scam when the ROI( return of investment)
is impossible to follow. Try also to search the site if it has a good
feedback. As much as we wanted to get a big return of investment,
we need indeed a throughly double check it. Also, I suggest dont
invest your money in one basket.
Indeed, we should  really first   make  investigations  on  a certain site  regarding  on its legitimacy  because we dont  like to waste  our  money   on a particular  investment  which are total scams. Eventually you could  directly spotted a  scam site,  if you saw a good    high return  on your  investment for a shorter  period of   time  then  its a sure scam  because  no  investments  would  promise   a decent returns  for  a short  time,  put that  into your head.
8926  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Which Trading Books Have You Read, Have They Helped You? on: November 09, 2016, 03:42:17 PM
I've only read two books regarding trading, I think for the most part they somewhat helped me create a good mindset when trading, but I feel as if I learned the most through trial and error.

The books I've read are 'Trading in the Zone' and 'Harmonic Trading Vol 1'

What books have you read to get better at trading? Did they actually help you?

I havent read   any  books  regarding  on trading  and  other  things related into it but  i do  some  research the  important things  that  must be  learn  into trading because   most  of  informations  are already  on the  net  which i could assume that  i dont  need to  read  any  books because  they are already here, they are  just the same though  but theres  no wrong  on reading  books  hence we  do  start learning  on those   sources.
me as well but i keep watching some good video related inside youtube to get more ideas about investing my money
because its really help me out to assess what particular investment to support to avoid big loses i will try to look
for a good books about it if i got time.

Watching  videos  would  be a  great thing to learn too  because  they could actually  explain visually  regarding on trading which  you could  easily cope  up and   put  up  in to your mind   and  could  really be used  on  your future trades thats why its  important  for us to be responsible if you are  eager to learn  up trading.   Important  informations are everywhere  all you need to do is  search  up those things and  have time to spent.
8927  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: NEver keep all your coins on an exchange on: November 09, 2016, 03:14:27 PM
The only exchange that had been hacked and were able to recover were poloniex, i do believe they had paid already all the funds taken in the past, nowadays security is their main concern, others as bitfinex hasnt a license to work as some had reported, soo you choose where you wanna to risk your bitcoin at reputable or at others.

Poloniex is not the only exchange that refunded its users. As far as I remember, BTC-e also refunded users of a minor security breach.

In both cases the funds lost did amount only for a fraction of the funds held. Therefore it was easy to do a refund. So users have been lucky.

I don't think that you truly can distinguish between "reputable" and "other" exchanges from the outside. An exchange is only "reputable" as long as it is not hacked. There is never a guarantee that the system is as secure as it is claimed to be and that all employees are honest.

So it doesn't matter at which exchange you store your funds, you're still taking a significantly higher risk than storing them in a private wallet which you control.

ya.ya.yo!



I agree with this  matter ,  its really  better  to   store  your  bitcoin  on your  private wallet  rather than keeping them  on  exchange wallets. The risk  of  lossing  it  is still their . As  you mentioned   we cant really  distinguish a  reputable exchanges  because as  long  as   it  operates  we could really say that thing. I do  glad to hear  that  exchanges  do a refund when  theres a  breach  , in this  matter we could really say that exchanges could able to  be hacked anytime.
8928  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: what is escrow transactions? on: November 09, 2016, 02:29:33 PM
Hey .. I have seen a bitcoin address written 'transaction' about 2 months ago but now it shows 'Escrow Transaction' what is it?

Please  elaborate more   regarding  on this   matter because  im  little bit confused regarding  on your  queries. If you do have time  please do  take a screen  show  which  show the  message  of escrow  transaction. So that  members or  the community  would able  to  answer   you directly. As of now  i cant give you any solutions and  answers because  im  confused. Waiting  for   your reply. Smiley
8929  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Is coinn.io a good bitcoin website?? on: November 09, 2016, 01:40:00 PM
I recently just started with trading bitcoin and chosed coinn.io as a starting place. I bought bitcoin from VirWoX and now on receiving alert from VirWoX that my bitcoin has been delivered, I discovered coinn.io is now down.

Please is this a temporary issue and the site will be ok soon or they are a scam website??

Urgent recommendations needed please.

THanks
Im trying to access the  website  but  i cant  really access  it  which means   its down  for  now .  I dont  know  if its a trading  site or  a  hyip site  but  in  my own  view i saw this  as  a HYIP site  because  i didnt hear this  kind  of trading site,  if its a trading site then  its  a shady site for me.  Frankly speaking   your  bitcoin  has gone and  been taking   by  the  owner  of the  website as  i assumed. If they  are still down  for the next 24 hours   and  expect  that they became  scam.
8930  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Going all in on a Hillary win bet on: November 09, 2016, 01:01:47 PM
What's wrong with the world I am asking and is not because I lost 2 BTC by betting on Hillary but because Americans voted for a guy like Trump. How will they explain to their kids that a guy who insults women, insults emigrants , insult religious people can become the president of America? By this example they cannot do it. They cannot try to learn to their kids that if you insult women and consider them only sexual objects you yell and insult people you can be a better man or woman.

Sad story, Trump president of USA.
I feel  you  bro, money  doesnt matter   though  on  making gambling  on  this  kind of election  but  the  effects  would give it  to america but  you cant really conclude  to a  particular  person, Trump  would surely do  his  job  it may affects some sectors and  businesses  but  lets  just see  on what would  the  actions that  he  would  made on  his   term.  Feel  sorry   for those  who  put all in  for Clinton. Its a sure  loss.

This is the most shocking result that I have come across for politics. I was almost tempted to bet for a Hilary win but I decided against it as odds was very low then. The people of America must be angry with the Democrats after voting the Republicans for all three (House, Senate & President). There is no sure win bet for gambling no matter how low the odds is.
i was amazed because even in the early counting directbet still gives low odd for clinton and even trump showing great start the site still favor clinton and allow bet to be place unlike you i was able to send some btc and place a bet since i also seen a mate here place 9k$ for clinton what a surprising lost for most of gamblers let see what trump can bring to his nation.


Oh what a saddest lost they get and also i though hillary would win since she is leading on polls and surveys but all of the sudden in tha last minute of voting turns out that trump won to this race,  well thats life just go wait and bet for another election and maybe by that time we can earn even more huge profit, election craze is now finish and hope that trump will not a thorn on our neck since he is well known as short tempered guy.

Thats  what  we called  gambling  even though  we  saw  shes leading  on the   poll and  surveys  and   we could really assume that shes winning already  but  unexpected results   will  happen  anytime , just  like what  happens  on   US  presidential election . Many  people   really  didnt  expect the results  especially for those  who  bet  on  clinton and some   putted huge amounts and  making  all in.
8931  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Thank you BitStarz.com!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! on: November 09, 2016, 08:26:52 AM
That is nothing more than just advertisement when that site already in problem, than it doesn't make any sense and I don't think OP will post any proof that he got paid with that huge amount, so that this will not be helpful for them.
Seems like you haven't read all the posts OP already gave a proof that he won as shown here in this post below



Even if I do show you a screen shot, people will just say I edited it or photoshopped it. Here you go though: https://i.imgur.com/qbcqNWE.png (I left 3 BTC and change in my account to play more with)

Also, you can check Bitstarz list of recent wins on their site. I have no reason to lie about winning, LOL.

Like I said, I really don't care if you believe me or not. I'm not posting an affiliate link, so I have nothing to gain from saying I won if I didn't. Jeez. Tough crowd, but I don't give a shit, lol.

For OP congrats on the win and just ignore the haters and the beggars its your own money that you risked anyway.
There are really people   do  have  crab  mentality  ,  instead  of  congratulating  him they always  make  some  negative  comments  about  op and  even do ask for  money as  you  called  beggars and thats  not new already  it does really a  normal thing  especially when there are  big winners.  You are  very a lucky man  OP but dont forget to  keep those money and dont be  greedy  because  20 btc  would be easily  lost when your luck passed  out already.
8932  Economy / Economics / Re: why is it so hard to buy bitcoin on: November 09, 2016, 06:55:35 AM
I have not really bought any bitcoin in a while, i have been mostly trading this last year.  but i have been trying to buy today from localbitcoins and bittylicious and it has been a real challenge.  they want photos of me holding cards on localbitcoins and on bitty they need about 4 different forms of id, what is going on. 

this is seriously restrictive to anyone wanting to get into bitcoin,  like its meant to be pseudonymous but if the gate ways into bitcoin dont allow that people will be put off.    Huh

They are  really  strict  because they  dont  want  fraud   the same as  other  members  said here. They are  just  imposing  their   requirements  its real hard  though for those  who dont have  enough requirement but for those who have  , transaction would be easy by the way if you  found out  thats   difficult you couldalways seek  for another legit exchanges though , there are  lots   of there  actually. You  just need to  find and  use  which really suits  you.

That's true. I believe this is to avoid any scams and doing illegal in bitcoin community like money laundering and other related things. Hence it's not government mandated but this is for our own security so they could easily track those people whose doing illegal.
If  would run and exchange site i would  do the same  thing   of   making such  strict  implementations  of  identification because as we all know that  there are  lots of  people   today  will do  anything   just  to  take advantage from other  people thats why  its  really correct to become strict  and  imposing   such act. You could eventually say its hard because  you dont  have   the  enough  requirements  .
8933  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: What mining site do paying? on: November 09, 2016, 05:55:56 AM
Hey guys, I have a capital to invest. I want to use it in mining. Yet there are too many of scam mining website, I am really hoping that there is some site that is legit. Can someone tell me which is the best site to invest?.😀

If you have capital to invest I would go with GPU mining rigs. They are much easier to set up and use compared to Bitcoin Antminers (these are easy too but GPU is just plug and play). There are people who are making money with GPU mining rigs (3-5 GPU-s per rig) usually RX 480 GPU-s would make you about 200-400 USD pure profit per month if the cost of your energy is 0.05-0.07 per kwatt.

I suggest you try ethereum or zcash as the most profitable altcoins of the moment. You can read more in this board
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=160.0

You  are right, better  to   invest  on  building  GPU rigs   because  its  less hassle  and   easy  to  use  without  any need of technical skills  and also  mining  rigs are  expensive especially when  you do  purchase on  s9  miners  it would cost you alot compare to  buy  GPU x5 which cost  less for sure. As he mentioned  zcash and etherium are good coins to mine  and also XMR. Never  intend to  put  your  money on  a cloudmining site  because  most  of them are  just  total scams.
8934  Economy / Services / Re: Earn $1000s PLUS a month on FOREX [DAY 2 $2175 profit] on: November 09, 2016, 04:15:53 AM
for those that missed out buy when hillary closes here gap with trump currently he has 150 seats and she has 109. as gap closes and she takes lead markets will rise

buy usd/jpy
gbp/jpy

sell gold
sell usdcad

when hillary takes lead
do you have any other option aside from a monthly base subscription, i would like to try but i guess my capital is not that much if you
can allow me to try your service from a none monthly subscription. thanks in advance.

Its really hard to be  included  on  his team  because  of the  monthly  fee  he  ask $150  is already  big for me  and  dont  have  much time to earn  it  on a fast way . Id like to  join  his team  but  it seems  theres no chance  though. Free tips  on this   thread  is  somehow useful because   the  leads are mostly correct and  i  created a  demo account, there are still  losses  but   still  profitable  on daily basis. Hope i could  join without any  fee, maybe  on the next month.
8935  Economy / Speculation / Re: Panic sellers got flushed fast on: November 08, 2016, 03:09:06 PM
Panic selling  is  just for newbies  out there   which they  tend  to sell out their bitcoins  especially when they saw theres a dip  on the  price. Ex. they  bought  bitcoin at 720+ price then  it dropped   again on  690+ they would surely panic and   tend do sell off because they believe it would go  down even  more  but  i could say not all  people  would really do that because  most of them are wiser  which  they  tend to  hold   it and  buy even  more  on the  mot  possible  low price bitcoins and sell  off when  it  bounces  up back.
8936  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: how can i safe from scamer members.. on: November 08, 2016, 02:44:24 PM
As i saw  on  OP he gained   negative trust  from a DT member  Lutpin  which states  hes a  liar  scammer and thief and  now  OP is askin advice  from the community?  what  hes  intention  or  trying to show  on  public?
Back  to topic  you could   eventually know  if  you meet a scammer  if  you see  that  there are thing are  not right  anymore regarding  on your transaction then its better to stay away to avoid  of getting scammed.
8937  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Is it safe to keep all your Bitcoins in one wallet? on: November 08, 2016, 02:15:35 PM
In my own  opinion  with this , i could really say  that  its better  to  store all your  bitcoins  on a single  wallet   for you dont have any confusions  regarding  on your  transactions , if you do  really  hold  tons of  bitcoins  then  make  a  partitions, best to store  those on a hardware wallet  with  private keys  been  keep secure and then  get  only the amount  you would  use and  put it on either  pc wallet or  web wallet  just  be  responsible  to take care of your  bitcoins.
8938  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Sorry to all who buy Zcash at 1btc + on: November 08, 2016, 01:01:52 PM
big sorry to all who buy zcash at 1btc+..look like price go like i say 0,2..but now i see some say price will go all till 20$ for 1 zcash...what is big hype was in start...

Unfortunately this happened with most Altcoins. At the launch date, all of them started at a high price and then fell down day after day until a stable price is established. If you want to buy Altcoins, ALWAYS buy them about one month after release and you'll be fine.

Thus the reason why some fud around.
One post the keep me laughing is that someone bought 1zcash for 3200 BTC.  He must be very depress by now, if that guy hanged himself after it, i can understand.


I dont really  understand  why a such  person   would really  to take risk  to  buy 1 zcash for 3300 btc which is really  insane   and  im wondering  on  what he  was thinking on that  time  when  he  purchase 1 zcash and  now   as we can see on the price  it  dropped  almost  on the  bottom and  that person  is surely  thinking  the  stupid thing that he  made. 3300  btc  is  no  joke and  there are  lots of  things you can do  with that amount and  now he loss  up .

8939  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [POLL] Would you open a Bitcoin account at your local bank? on: November 08, 2016, 11:40:50 AM
I would really say NO and   most  people   voted   the same   option. Having a bitcoin account   on your   local  bank  is  just  useless  though and   would really takes  time to  be  implemented  by the government  hence if  they decide  to adopt   bitcoin  on the  form  of banks  you are  no  longer  free regarding  on your bitcoins because for sure you  would  imposed  with taxes  especially if you  do  hold   huge  amounts of bitcoin. Whats  the   purpose of  wallets  out there?  People  would   definitely choose  up   those  traditional ways because  they  love to have  full control  on their money.
8940  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: I did deposit btc to coinn.io on: November 08, 2016, 09:48:07 AM
Im really new bitcoins invested as little as 0.1 in this site coinn.io seems legit I did withdraw some from bonus but how safe it is if i want to deposit larger ammount. Any one can give a hint for a noobie like me please.

Who brag you to that site?  He must be a sucker if someone referred you from that ponzi sites, you must not add some deposits since they are surely running on ponzi type of investment and ponzi is not a good one to be trusted interms of investment issue,  better be more aware and do research next time for you to avoid big lose if money in future,  and one thing you need to at this moment is to pray that they will not scam until you accumulate your roi in that site.
For sure , someone  refers  to him about  on the site  because of  referral  bonus , yes   you are right  those  kind of  sites are  definitely use  ponzi  hyip scheme  which  are total scams  on the end and  most  of  us  already  knew about that  excluding  to those  newbies out there  including  OP,  better to  ask first   on anyone  rather than directly  investing   into a website without  any  knowledge  because it would  put   you  to harm.
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