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8881  Economy / Marketplace / Re: How do you know when a site tries to scam you? on: November 17, 2016, 06:59:16 AM
If we  like to invest  our  money  on a particular site we should  really  do make some  investigation first  before making  next action. If you do value   your  money  you  would surely do that because  you dont  like  to lose  your  money  but there are really some circumtances  that  we do  fall on some  scams  because  of  some  informations that  may convince  us  but  they are  just total  lies on the first place.
8882  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: DarkWealth.net - Get Rich Bitch! | The #1 internet Marketing; Money Making Forum on: November 17, 2016, 05:03:06 AM
Dont fall for  this  scam. Many users  do tend to  try  to  post  on this    forum and in the end   no  one   has got  paid  for the said  offer. Vod is correct  those  members who do  post with vouches  is just  the alt accounts  of  the OP and  anyone could able to  recognize that though.  Those  negative  trust    on OP   is  just  right for  him. Regarding on  the new forum better  to  promote it  on a legal way rather than  bubbling  some  too good to be true offers  just  to get members.
8883  Economy / Marketplace / Re: im starting selling my goods here for btc today.. yeah on: November 16, 2016, 05:17:19 PM
thanks to all member for support me.. and giving me usefull info about sell goods here.. all replied members really halped me... i shell be thankful all for this kind
No problem. As  long  you do  have  other questions  just do make  search some of them are already asked so  that it would   not repeat the thread all over again. If you do have questions that  havent been  answered here then  you can  freely  make a thread.  Regarding  on your  business of selling  goods,   remember to  use  escrow always when transacting to someone  because  there are still  scammer  on here.
8884  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: What if you could buy bitcoin at $0.1? on: November 16, 2016, 05:01:14 PM
Remember the old days when bitcoin was at $0.1?

What if there was something similar that you could buy at that price, would you take it?

I recently came across ICONOMI, a crypto designed to revolutionize the Funs Management Industry, this industry is worth Trillions of dollars - No other crypto is on this field.

Currently trading at about $0.2 on the Kraken exchange (Symbol: ICN) in the last days had an increase of already 100%+, it's not even in Poloniex yet.

I think Iconomi will be for Funds Management the same bitcoin is for Money, a big fat revolution.

Have a look at it:

https://ico.iconomi.net/

https://ico.iconomi.net/faq

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1587736.0

Get in the train before its too late! This coin is going to reach at least $2 in the next few days/weeks.... that's 1000% ROI, just watch.

Lots of announcements, releases and good things to come! Just read about it and you will understand.


Can you rename the thread - iconomi pump thread or something, it will save people reading the thread under false pretenses.
I would  like  to suggest the same thing too  because the  topic title  is  very  misleading  for  the  forum members or on  community  itself. Instead  of expecting to answer the best suggestion  , you cant really say it because  the  question is  or promotion is  too  far away from the title.
8885  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Yobit.net withdrawal problem on: November 16, 2016, 02:13:11 PM
Ive got used to this  already  regarding  on  yobits service and  those  queries and  problems  of  users  regarding   on the site  is already normal  for me to read because  i  know that  yobit  do  have a  very bad  support and  doesnt  intend to  answer  any  of it, if it replies  then  youre  lucky but   one thing  i do noticed  that  how  much do they  have a problem  on their site, they always  fix it  but  it really takes time though  but  its better than not to fix it at all.
8886  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: If You Had 20Bitcoin To Trade With... on: November 16, 2016, 01:30:14 PM
20BTC is big amount, if i have thats amount for trading i will separate my BTC to multiple exchange not only in one exchange:
5 BTC save on my wallet for reserve fund
5 BTC in first exchange for trading btc to fiat
2 BTC in second exchange like poloniex for trading altcoin
2 BTC in third exchange like bittrex for trading altcoin too
1 BTC in fourth exchange like c-cex for trading altcoin
5 BTC invest in a couple interesting ICOs
but all activity have risk but have big profit too if we have good strategy

i really doubt you can maximize the potential of those amount which is separated into various affair,sometimes focusing in one thing is more good than multitasking but the result can't maximal,i guess putting the funds for altcoin trading in one exchanger is just enough


Actually if you focus on one things and put all your money unto it well high possibilities for you to lose all you've got if something bad happens to that site and much better if we separate our money to different platforma so if one will turns down surely we can have another one to accumulate those losses we get from those bad schemes,
Well it depends on  the  decision  of a certain person  on  how he gonna handle his  funds putting  up  amount on  various exchanges  is also a good  idea and  i do agree with you  because you are lowering the  risk of  being broke especially when you  put all  your money on one exchange and  hacking incidents happen and  for sure those  bitcoins would  lost all unlike  on  putting  up  and  partitioning  it  on some exchange would  the best too. 20 btc on altcoin trading is  already decent but  earning 1 bitcoin per trade is not possible because we know the  volatility of  altcoin is not  too active  depends on a certain coin though.
8887  Economy / Economics / Re: Chandler Guo : "Bitcoin could reach 1 million dollar" on: November 16, 2016, 12:56:17 PM
“But finally, I tell them, just go back and buy Bitcoin. A lot of people don’t have Bitcoin...Not too much. Only one is enough. If everyone would have just one, the Bitcoin value would go to $1 mln. When Bitcoin becomes $1 mln, the whole world would be crazy and everyone would love to follow and all the other digital currencies would just be the grandson of Bitcoin.”

You can see the video from a couple of days ago here : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zh_mQl2B6es&feature=youtu.be (0:00 to 2:00 should be enough but you could continue)


Another  insane  speculation on which the  price  is  too unrealistic to consider. As others said  here if that  amount would reach  then we are all dead and  our grand grand sons would able to witness that  event but  i really dont think that  this  things would happen  because  saying $1m/bitcoin is  no joke and  assuming that all people  are already using  it  globally and  would be the mainstream for sure.

I agree, just releasing words without any substance in it.  I would believe if he will say bitcoin will reach 10k USD but 1 million, I doubt it, I can speculate that we are using other cryptocurrency or another cryptocurreny had replaced bitcoin even before it reach half of the value of what the video is saying.

He actually spoke about the 10,000$ too and he said we should reach that before reaching 1 million dollar. His statements aren't crazy at all considering that he is an Entrepreneur and he is one of the biggest miners in China and If you see what he said , It would make sense... If everyone buys BTC then this will be an easy task to achieve.

You do have some points but theres still no guarantee and we just do believe because it's being said by a famous people or whatsoever. One thing here is no one could able to predict precise prices of bitcoin on near future because we are just humans and no one could see on what's ahead speculations might be reach hence bitcoin has do really the potential but reaching $1m price is too unrealistic to believe, if that amount reaches maybe we are all dead on that time.
8888  Economy / Economics / Re: Chandler Guo : "Bitcoin could reach 1 million dollar" on: November 15, 2016, 03:30:45 PM
“But finally, I tell them, just go back and buy Bitcoin. A lot of people don’t have Bitcoin...Not too much. Only one is enough. If everyone would have just one, the Bitcoin value would go to $1 mln. When Bitcoin becomes $1 mln, the whole world would be crazy and everyone would love to follow and all the other digital currencies would just be the grandson of Bitcoin.”

You can see the video from a couple of days ago here : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zh_mQl2B6es&feature=youtu.be (0:00 to 2:00 should be enough but you could continue)


Another  insane  speculation on which the  price  is  too unrealistic to consider. As others said  here if that  amount would reach  then we are all dead and  our grand grand sons would able to witness that  event but  i really dont think that  this  things would happen  because  saying $1m/bitcoin is  no joke and  assuming that all people  are already using  it  globally and  would be the mainstream for sure.
8889  Economy / Marketplace / Re: How to make 1 bitcoin in a month or 2? on: November 15, 2016, 03:14:23 PM
If anybody would be able to answer OP's question, I would definitely do it for hours every day. 1 bitcoin in a month for just 2 hours a day of work and no investment sounds like too good to be true to me. I think that's only possible if you do have a decent day job in a first world country. The best way to at least reach somewhere near that amount is to have an actual job. It's much harder to earn money online than to work in real life.

BTC1 is possible a month for just 2 hours a day but it's not on regular or fixed basis and that 2 hours doesn't mean 2 straight hours but rather 2 hours overall spent in a day. It's possible here in our country as a freelance programmer and web developer. I have a friend of mine who can do that and that BTC1 is not that big and possibility to earn that is possible.

Back then when the bitcoin price is below $500, I can covered that BTC1 a month with my day job salary but now with the increase (around $700) I need at least another month more lol.

1 bitcoin for a month  would be  a piece of  cake  for  doing freelancing works.  Technical  and developing skills really do have  decent  payrates especially when you   have   a  big project to  finish  on. 1btc is  just  small. I could  see some developers  which do earn  almost  2-3btc on a single  project which they could able to  finish on a matter  of  days which is  really amazing but as we all know   that  technical skills is not for everyone. Sad
8890  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: What minor exchange would you trust? on: November 15, 2016, 12:56:44 PM
Why we should  use  minor exchanges  since there  are more reputable  ones and  i do  really agree on those people who said that  most of   these  minor  exchanges do shut down  because  of  low  volume and  yes  this  trully   happens and devs  would  surely ran away. Betternot to bother yourself  on  finding or  tending to  put  money or do trades on these  minor exchanges  because  the risk of  lossing  money is  high  compared  on putting  it into  most reputable ones.
8891  Economy / Services / Re: [BetKing] Signature Campaign | Fixed rates | Full Member - Legendary (Open) on: November 15, 2016, 12:14:14 PM
The management of the signature campaign is up to Lutpin.
However I see a lot of people applying and saying they will change their signature after being accepted.

In the OP he says you need to change your signature and then post to apply so I don't think you will be accepted unless you change it first.

I applied but changed back because I saw Full Members were full. And I counted the ones who will change later as well, knowing what you say now I was on time. But ok missed chance here.
Would be nice if the sheet comes online because I see many Full Members and Sr. Members applying while I guess the spots are already fulfilled.

You cant still be sure  ,  no matter  how  many  potential participants  that  applied  chances are random hence Lutpin would really choose  the  best  quality  kind of  poster. Theres  no late or early here  because  Manager will surely check  one by one  to those  who applied.  Even  you are  on the  bottom spot  chances of being selected is  still there.  Cool
8892  Economy / Services / Re: I am paying $50 BTC too everyone who.... on: November 15, 2016, 03:52:18 AM
Got my $50 very quick and easy!
You must be the quickest spammer on the net, only 3min after the OP was posted and you already posted 25 thread or 35 replies  Roll Eyes

People just put no thought into there scams anymore, it a shame

I agree with this, 25 threads/35 replies for  3 mins  is  unbelievable  Grin . Maybe that   guy  is a robot because no  human could  possibly do  that. Red trust  is  deseve for those  two members( OP and  his  Alt for sure.  ) $50 is already a decent amount of  payout  on  a certain  task  but  as  long  you dont  post  proofs  no one    would  really trust   on this thing and  the alt busted  all these  scam attempts.
8893  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: another poonzi biteminer.com or brother of hashocen on: November 14, 2016, 05:21:11 PM
Yes, It's ponzi site!
We need to stay away from those site, They scammed thousand of peoples every years.
Like Hashocean, I personally have scammed for 100$  in this site.
I don't advice people to invest in cloud mining sites.

Hashocean  or  not  i wouldnt  still invest again  on this so called cloud  mining site  because they are  just total scams for me.  This scheme  would continue   to  pop  out everywhere because  there are still people  who  used to  put their  money  on this  schemes as  i  observe  on  recent  post  those  newbie accounts trying to  promote the site  is  paying. I already  know  their  style  on  convincing  people  they  may convince   some  but  not  me. Grin
Finally some one that isn't talking nonsense. You hit it exactly on the right spot.

The only reason cloud mining and other scam sites exist, is because of dumb people pumping their hard earned cash into these sites as they seriously believe they can make profits.

Some people even know they are "investing" money into an obvious scam site. They think that they can walk out with profits when they are pumping money into that site at the very early launch stage.

Even though noobs invest without doing actual research, I feel sorry for them if they lose money due to scams, but that's not the case for people knowingly "investing" in scams. It's their own fault.

Yes, they join this kind of site, because they think they can be lucky to make profit before the site colapses. On social medias there are some people saying to be "HYIP masters","HYIP professionals". They think they can know when it's safe to invest on a Ponzi, HYIP scheme.

There are some fail rules they use to say when it's safe, like: Invest on a very new site, between 0-10 days; Look if the number of members are increasing... But it's as you said, it's their own fault, nothing to complain about it.
I do  hear some  people  who said that they are  profitable on  hyips   because they join  on early stage,  it might  possible though  but   it wont  work anytime because  most  hyips doesnt last long  or shall we say  they last  only  on 2-3 days atleast. Roi cant be achieve on that short time  thats why  most  investors  would really lost  up   their money  especially for those  new  people  who  just  joined in.
8894  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: If Bitcoin was made illegal by your government would you still use it? on: November 14, 2016, 04:53:19 PM
I will still use bitcoin, there are regulations to banned some illegal activities in every country but it never can be stopping people to do those things. Actually, in my country already band some sites that consider bad thing, but by using vpn people could visit the site.
Luckily bitcoin is digital currency that bring many advantages for us, so gov won't ever ban bitcoin I think.
Well  it depends on a certain country  on  how  they treat  bitcoin,  if they saw   that  bitcoins  is a  threat for them  then  they  would surely  ban  it. As  you said  people  would really still  use  it no matter   how the government would   restrict   because  there are lots of  ways to access without  being chased, as  long  there are  internet and VPN we  could  access  whatever we want  , just be sure  that they dont catch you.

If they catch   you then you will end  up on  jail and  you will leave  your   family behind. If  government would  banned  bitcoin in your country better not to  force yourself  because  you cant still  use  bitcoin  on  your  place but  you could  possibly cash out  it  on a different  place if you have  a friends  on   other  country on which  bitcoins is  not   banned yet.
8895  Economy / Economics / Re: bitcoins and P2P lending on: November 14, 2016, 04:15:23 PM
The only experience i have was a small test i did depositing 0.05BTC to btcjam little over a year ago.

I made (very) small investments into 12 projects.
I allways made sure the borrower had a good rating, i liked the project and the loan wasn't suspicious (suspicious, for example, are people that have repayed 5 BTC in the past, and suddenly try to take a 50 BTC loan).

After a year, i stopped my exeriment with the following statistics:
Net return: -21%
5/12 borrowers defaulted, 1/12 is more than a month late (so in the end, i suppose 50% of the borrowers will have defaulted on their loans).

I've depostited 0.05BTC, and i've withdrawn 0.032792 (using 3 transactions, each transaction requires a fee). Substracting the fee of 0.0003681 I payed when funding my account, i can say:

I have sent 0.05 BTC to btcjam, after a year and after both deposit and withdrawal fees, i have a total return of 0.0324239. So in the end, i've lost both a year of my time and 0.0175761BTC by investing on a p2p lending platform.

Very sad to hear  on  your experience on  btcjam and i could   say  that  it was   totally useless on waiting for  a year   and you  gain negative profits   which is somehow  injustice for  us on  our   part. Id thinking  this  thing also  on the past which  i decided  to  put  up  money  on  btcjam for  this lending  investments  but  i do  some research first  and i found out that this  kind of   investment doesnt  work at all and the risk  is high thats why  i decide not  to proceed.
8896  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: NEver keep all your coins on an exchange on: November 14, 2016, 03:52:54 PM
If you use an exchange, only put in it what you want to use for trading. Don't store any coins on an exchange. I made that mistake with cryptsy.

Most of  us here   do learn  already   on past   circumstances  that  happen  in the past  on which  big  exchanges have  been  hacked and   lost all  money  . Most users  there  realized  that  we should  not  really  store all of  our  bitcoins  on exchangers wallet  because  the risk  of  lossing  it  is always there. Making  mistake  once should   not be  followed   by another.
8897  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Cloud mining that real mining? on: November 14, 2016, 03:08:31 PM
I want to know, where I can find best cloud mining that real mining? I tried googling but i only got referral programs.
I wouldnt really  suggest   someone  to  invest on cloud  mining  but   if youre  looking  for it  ,  better  try  hashflare and genesis  mining because   these  cloud  mining sites  do   have real  mining  rigs that  operates. It may be a good  one  but  dont expect too much  and  dont  try  to  invest  on  huge amounts. Just   put  up  money that  you can afford  to  loss. Better  be  cautious .
8898  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Any tips im new in trading on: November 14, 2016, 02:04:36 PM

Even you already know the move of the altcoin you monitor , it will fall down there a chance that it will not  recover the amount that decrease  ,accept that there is always risk, i saw many altcoin that the price going down morethan 20x and now it's hard to recover back,

Yes, it really happens and it is a great risk that we have to anticipate. Some I was forced sell at low price just to convert it back to bitcoin as the devs have already abandoned the coin. Sometimes its a sad case already if the exchanges give a notice of delisting.
Thats the saddest part when you are still trying to hold hoping that the coin can make a rebound but in the other way its been delisted and every investment that you place has been completely burned so its really important to study first before you enter the trading business.

Buying a  sh*tcoin would  really waste of your  money  . Thats the  thing   why trading is  hard   because  there are  lots  of coins out there   to choose  from   and you  must   be  vigilant and  do  research first  before  you  invest into a  coin because  not all will  pump in the future  because  most  of coins  out there  just   pump  once and  dump  forever. To OP, if  you want   to trade  better study first the  most  important things to do in trading.
8899  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BitCoin 20 Years From Now on: November 14, 2016, 01:17:43 PM
in the future I'm sure bitcoin could be a superior financial payment instruments. use bitcoin will be very big in the next 20 years.

You cant  be still sure off  that  bitcoin  would able to reach that  state on next 20 years as  of  now. Well  theres a  possibility  but    we cant  be still sure of because  no  one could able  to predict   the future  and  into  bitcoin  . If  bitcoin would  last  still on those  years   then  im sure  its price would   be  high  compared as  of today and   the adoption  is already  spread for sure.
8900  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: Zendoubler.com is it good to put into it? Or will it just disappear like alot? on: November 14, 2016, 12:19:58 PM
From the  word itself  zendoubler  which  really  means  its an  another  doubler  site  that we usually see  that  pop  outs  every now and then.  This  kind of  investments are  just total scams  because  doubler  sites dont  usually  last for too  long   because they are  total  ponzi which means  they  only pay their  old investor  getting the funds  from their  new  investors, if no  one  already  join their program  then thats the time they  would  ran. So stay away from this.
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