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8801  Economy / Securities / Re: Any Safe 1.5% Monthly? on: December 04, 2016, 02:18:13 PM
Is there any safe monthly investment offering a value like that (1.5%)?

I know about casino bankrolls, just searching if there is something more. I tried on Google, but I just see a lot of HYIP schemes.
Just as mentioned above regarding on poloniex and hao they do really give small percentage and banks could be the best choice compared to them. Lending services will give you more than that you asked for and i agree on members here said you should always demand for strong collateral to avoid being scammed by those people who request a long from you. If you dont like the risk of invesment then better to hold off your bitcoin 1.5% per month is achievable though and also try to put up on gambling  house it might work and choose the most reputable ones.

garbling house only if you trust them some here are good but i would recommend you better to invest this is my opinion, lending someone is risky to risky he can scam you in most cases, investment in some reputable gambling house is little less risky and investing in some ICO is also like that

maybe best option is to hold, but if you want investment try to find some good investment here on forum you can find one was it some coin or something else
research first here on google you want find this maybe some articles how this is suppose to be and how its done in practice

Holding your money would be good if you really dont know on what will you do on that but as you said putting it on investments is the good idea because you could able to generate money on that money. Yes,investing on reputable and good gambling sites is somehow safe compared to build a lending service because lots of scammers nowadays.


In my opinion i wouldn't go either on lending business if i have some capital to spend on since there so many issue of hack accounts and loan defaulter, and it can cost us a lot if we gpt victimized by those people thats why its so risky to do so and theres only few people  have guts to do so but surely they suffer also for huge losses from their start up of this kind of business.
Losses on lending business is normal just like all types of investments out there not only on this lending service and i agree with you there are still people who have the guts to stick on this business because they are already gaining profits specially to those reputable lendors out there. Risk is always there and we cant avoid it because there are really some circumtances that really causes it.
8802  Economy / Services / Re: Hackers of BCT? on: December 04, 2016, 07:43:13 AM
I have the permission to execute such tests in the systems where I want to employ the team to hack.
Maybe you mean it's beta testing in that particular site? To test the security or vulnerability  and to find some loopholes of a site's system.

But I don't really think that there are groups of individuals in this forum that you are finding. Anyways good luck dude.
Thats what im thinking on what are the motive of OP. He want to test out a particular website regarding on its security. Potential candidates for this service are possible but same as other members said he will reach out via PM and dont tend to show on public.You cant say that theres no group of individuals here because there are lots of people on this forum and we dont know their capabilities on such task.
8803  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Guide me How do you guys analyse and pick your picks to bet! on: December 03, 2016, 08:55:34 AM
I play on sports betting. I think it looks quite easy to analyze on sports betting.

First we could see the last record and the latest information about the team.
Secondly we are betting on a big team, it's usually good to get a victory. Although it does not guarantee 100% will always win.
the third bet on a team that has a good record when they play at home.

i still getting hard to make analyze with the team, i think i am make something miss so i can not win like other people although i read about each team and listen about my friends opinion, i still miss one or two thing that makes me can not win. i think i will learn more about sportsbetting so i will not missed something again.

analyze on sports bets is pretty easy, just look at the statistics.
If you still getting hard, you could take a big team matches when they play at home. I think it's really easy to get the victory.

It is not so easy to pick the winning teams always correct because how many time those big teams lost a match or draw match at home games right? And some of these games also fixed so we can't just pitch based on their past performance. With all these analysis we can increase our winning chances but still need some luck to win the bet.
Luck would really be needed when we are talking on any forms and types of gambling games.Just as you mentioned and said we cant really guarantee winnings on a particular team because of the good standing and statistics they have and there are really fixed games which we could definitely lose up. Analysis is really an important tool for you to increase your winning percentage.
8804  Economy / Speculation / Re: voting: $750 in 1/12/2016? on: December 03, 2016, 06:04:37 AM
We have already broken past $750 and it could only be a matter of time before $800 is reached. i think this rise is better than the one we witnessed back in May or June, when it suddenly skyrocketed and eventually went down to mid $500 below stabilizing and idling at the $600 levels. Let's just hope that this time the support holds strong and that another resistance is slowly broken. We are very early in December and we know that this time of the year, people have lots of money at their disposal.

This time around price might be more mature and wont go back like it was at $500... To me, the lowest price should be $650++...
for me 700 USD is the lowest price at the moment. even before the end of the year the price of bitcoin I predict will reach 780 USD. This is very realistic because usually at the end of the year, the price trend bitcoin is always increasing. hopefully .

The price nearly reached 780$ today.
I suppose because a lot of money from the altcoins is wandering into bitcoin at the moment.
The question is if btc price will be able to stay in that range or if we will see a bouncing up and down for a few months again.
Fluctuations on bitcoins price normally happens and we should really expect that inspite of bitcoins price increase and as you said it reaches now almost $780 and theres a possibility to reach up on $800  if this price rally will continue but expect price to drop because traders and holders will surely sell their bitcoin into a high price point and to secure profits on positive percentage.
8805  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling crying thread on: December 03, 2016, 04:27:17 AM
im gonna start crying right now Sad
lately i've been playing on a gambling sites and i saw some autobets promoting and i feel like i want to try it and thats where my biggest and worst mistake ive done on gambling i lose 20 streaks on a dice game with a high bet now im crying for my .2 bitcoin i dont know its just happened i never thought that it would make me lose if i left it alone running.
Lmao don't use autobet's when your away from keyboard some of autobets when it running for long run it will automatically bet all your bitcoins once your increase percent when loosing i think you lose straight and your bet based increase it very high that's the reason why all of your bitcoins are lose.

Not knowing what just happen in a bet would cause you a lot, because when you are betting it would surely need your presence if you would need to continue a bet or not that is why it is not a good decision if you would put all of your bet in auto mode! the presence of a person is really needed and his decision is fairly important for a crucial moment.
Well, in gambling, it is very difficult to make a profit without good self-control, moreover, if you use autobet. I never use autobet, but, I think will be more painful if you lose .2 BTC because autobet. Well, so much experience that made me want to cry because of gambling, and one reason is because of loss of control in gambling

Well if it is not in auto bet then I think the problem is with the gambler, if the gambler doesn't know how to control his decision making in order to pull out the leaving game or when to end his bet he would totally lose it all, well on second thought gambling really work that way and it is really risky that is why it is up to you if your up to that level of risk.
There are really true gamblers which do really ready to face the risk of lossing money no matter what cost because they believe they could able to make money when they won a particular bet but results arent expected to be like that.Automated betting do really have some disadvantage and as you mentioned you could not able to go out or stopped if you saw you are lossing up soo much.

There is a tendency when a gambler is losing so much and he would not want to stop in betting and like you said there are surely a true gambler out there who doesn't really care if they lose so much over time because of the knowledge of the risk involve in gambling and they are surely ready for the consequence that awaits them when triggering the risk.
True,there are really people are not scared on taking up the risk but its good only if you do have lots of money to spent but for those people who have only small amounts and have only a average financial status then its really a bad idea because a point will come that you are very broke and could hardly to stand up again because lossing money too much will surely disable you for how many months unless if you have a job.
8806  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Is Solar mining really profitable? on: December 03, 2016, 03:12:04 AM

If you do ask me, having solar panels will surely make your mining operations profitable.If the electricity charges or cost in your place or country is high then its ideal to have panels as long you do have the money to put on but please do consider the weather conditions on your place that might affect your solar panels because if you put it on weather which do include hails then panels will be easily bust out.

Thanks for the information. I have heard that even if you buy the Solar panels, you would still need to pay some kind of a fee in order to use it in the USA. That is why I was wondering if mining with this system, would really generate you some profit regardless of the fee, among other factors. But still, it would be pretty ideal to go towards that route since you would save a lot more money with it, thus increasing your opportunity to profit in the long term.

If I were to start with this operation, I would take the most smallest and cheapest solar panel, to see for myself how much money I would earn mining Bitcoin with it. It would only be a matter of patience, until I get the necessary equipment to get started.  Smiley
Oh, i didnt heard about fees regarding on building a solar panel on your place well if its only on small amount then it wouldnt matter then.Profits on long term is possible but do expect that ROI on total expenses would be long atleast you are saving on electricity cost when roi is achieved. There would really be no a problem as long you do have the money to invest on.Goodluck on your mining journey.
8807  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: 33000 unconfirmed transactions, OMG!, what happened?? on: December 03, 2016, 02:18:15 AM
33000 unconfirmed transactions! OMG!!
did i miss something? . did something happen lately i don't know about?, i have never seen 33000 unconfirmed transactions, ever.


i never seen this too before because i always get normal transaction even people said they got unconfirmed transaction and now i feel it by myself, but maybe it only need time before everything back to normal. like usually
Same as yours i do get normal fast transactions but these kind of news pops out every now and then on which spam transactions are happening thats why some of my transfer do take long hours before it confirms and i decided to put up high fees to be prioritize it somehow works but not the same when there are less unconfirmed transactions.Its very hassle for sometimes.
8808  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: MY gambling strategy to limit loss and make btc on: December 02, 2016, 08:54:40 AM
My strtegy is very simple. It is called self control. i strt with .01 anytime i get  more than .001 over that amount i immidieately withdraw that ammount into coinbase. this way, i cant get cocky and gamble away huge orofits! Ehat are you guys opinions on this strat

That sounds good strategy but it will more powerfull if you save your money after you reach like 0.005 profit from your 0.01 starting balance. The question is why to coinbase? Why not just tip it to your second accounts? At some sites you can have 2 or more accounts hence your method will work fine at such sites.

Every people has their own target on gambling, in this case his target is only 10% from his starting bankroll. It is easier and safer than he should get 50% imho. Withdrawing it immediately to his own wallet is better than tipping it to his secondary account. Some people do the same but most of them sent it back to the main account to play again or use the secondary account to play again. Meanwhile, if he withdraw it then he will need more times to decide to deposit again and at this time he may think longer to decide.
and with that time frame he can think much better and he can enjoy his day earnings instead of sending it back and play again because chances of losing it again with another game is very possible, good thing that he able to manage this and if followed by most gamblers even in a small profits is much better than losing a bankroll.
Having this kind of mindset will surely make you profits if you limit yourself to a particular day of playing gambling and if you are already on green profits then better  not to be greedy and dont ask for more and thats enought for the da.You are right  we should not deposit again to play more because winning could possibly be lose again including your bank roll.Being greedy doesnt give anything good to you.
8809  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can Bitcoin battle against multinational companies on: December 02, 2016, 07:41:56 AM
It only depends on the amount of money they have and spend to have the most recent ASIC's or develop their own chips. I think that by the time they managed to have a sizeable mine or their own chips, they wouldn't be a threat to the network...
There would be no threat even those multinational companies would engage to bitcoin since there are only 5 million bitcoins to mine and infact there is no battle would happen but a full adoption and if these companies would adopt bitcoin then prices will skyrocketed since demand is there and the supply is limited. Im hoping for this adoption will happen.
8810  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Guide me How do you guys analyse and pick your picks to bet! on: December 02, 2016, 04:51:39 AM
50% is not bad considering you did it in 3 months time. So after 3 months you still haven't lost anything and this is quite some good objective you have achieved.

In order to give you a betting edge the way I analyze the games is by reading all the day the betting and predictions websites, tips websites like goaloo, betgooner, bettingexpert etc. They can give you an idea which is the tip is played most at your game and also the latest news and analyzes are there. It have helped me a lot in assesing which type of bet to place on a specific soccer events or nba event.
Reading tips from someone is somehow a good tool especially listen to those people who give nice tips non on those random people out there,go for reputable tipster.
Analysis would really be the key and skills because if you havent use this betting on casual will surely prone you to loss. Research up thing about into a particular team which you will decide to bet on.
8811  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are these Bitsler scripts legit? on: December 02, 2016, 03:35:35 AM
i will not use any script to get a chance for the winning because i know that scripts is not for all people, its only work for few people which have a luck in gambling. so i will only use my own skill although my skills is low but its better to used.
lol, "a script only work for few people which have a luck in gambling"? Does't make any sense, we know if we can't predict when luck comes or happens to us when we're gambling. There's no any script like that.
What is your "low" skill in gambling? on sport betting? on dice game? or on poker?
We have the same though and reactions and i cant think on what gambling game did he play since hes mentioning about skills. We are talking dice game here and it doesnt need any skills.Scripts could be able to use by anybody and those scripts doesnt work only on lucky people. If you already knew that you are lucky and you use scripts then you are already rich by now but in reality luck couldnt be known if its still there or none.
8812  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Is Solar mining really profitable? on: December 02, 2016, 02:03:09 AM
I'm curious to know if it is really profitable to mine BTC with solar panels at your home, and if it is worth doing it.

I know that there are many panels which are very expensive, but if energy costs reduce greatly to a point where you can make more money with your miner, then I'd be willing to do this.

One miner that I've been looking forward to use with this system, is the Antminer S9. Nevertheless, if you have any tips or advice, please let me know.  Smiley
If you do ask me, having solar panels will surely make your mining operations profitable.If the electricity charges or cost in your place or country is high then its ideal to have panels as long you do have the money to put on but please do consider the weather conditions on your place that might affect your solar panels because if you put it on weather which do include hails then panels will be easily bust out.
8813  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling crying thread on: December 01, 2016, 04:12:43 PM
im gonna start crying right now Sad
lately i've been playing on a gambling sites and i saw some autobets promoting and i feel like i want to try it and thats where my biggest and worst mistake ive done on gambling i lose 20 streaks on a dice game with a high bet now im crying for my .2 bitcoin i dont know its just happened i never thought that it would make me lose if i left it alone running.
Lmao don't use autobet's when your away from keyboard some of autobets when it running for long run it will automatically bet all your bitcoins once your increase percent when loosing i think you lose straight and your bet based increase it very high that's the reason why all of your bitcoins are lose.

Not knowing what just happen in a bet would cause you a lot, because when you are betting it would surely need your presence if you would need to continue a bet or not that is why it is not a good decision if you would put all of your bet in auto mode! the presence of a person is really needed and his decision is fairly important for a crucial moment.
Well, in gambling, it is very difficult to make a profit without good self-control, moreover, if you use autobet. I never use autobet, but, I think will be more painful if you lose .2 BTC because autobet. Well, so much experience that made me want to cry because of gambling, and one reason is because of loss of control in gambling

Well if it is not in auto bet then I think the problem is with the gambler, if the gambler doesn't know how to control his decision making in order to pull out the leaving game or when to end his bet he would totally lose it all, well on second thought gambling really work that way and it is really risky that is why it is up to you if your up to that level of risk.
There are really true gamblers which do really ready to face the risk of lossing money no matter what cost because they believe they could able to make money when they won a particular bet but results arent expected to be like that.Automated betting do really have some disadvantage and as you mentioned you could not able to go out or stopped if you saw you are lossing up soo much.
8814  Economy / Marketplace / Re: How do you know when a site tries to scam you? on: December 01, 2016, 02:30:40 PM
I am writing about the sites where you have to make a deposit before buy and the site offers to act as a MM in deals.

How could I know when they are trying to scam me? In general, how do I know if a MM site is trusted?
Well its too obvious to those sites that are trying to scam you, if the offer is too good to be true, that you can earn with a huge amount in just a few couple of time. And before risking any money from your wallet try to search in google ('the site's name' review) and read all the reviews there with different people so you can know if this sites are legit.
Checking feedbacks to a particular investments isnt always works and some of those feedbacks are from fake people which you will really need to investigate more and as you said checking sites status/name and you should really seek for the legit reviews and not to those fake ones because if you just let those positive feedbacks of fake people then you will surely got hooked into it.
8815  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Altcoins in Gambling on: December 01, 2016, 12:22:45 PM
usually big gambling site will use some alt coins as the betting token, it is because they see the potential of the coin to grow and there are a lot user using the coins, so the coins need to be famous then the site will adopt it, for the small gambling site usually they don't prefer this because there are not a lot of alt coin gamblers and they need extra capital to deposit different coins and also larger database to store extra wallet address
This is right and i agree with you bi gambling site or some other sites will only adopt a particular altcoin which they seem its popular enough because they can assure that people will use it on playing on their sites because if they do tend to put a non famous and trash altcoin on their website they are just wasting up their space and they could not able to generate profits with it.
8816  Economy / Securities / Re: Putting 10 BTC to good use on: December 01, 2016, 10:09:10 AM
Just hold your coins is the only decent option.

1. P2P always loses money and is full of scammers
2. Not sure how you profit that way, but it might be possible?
3. Funding/ICO/Securities are all gambles and most of the time you loose... The only ones making profits are the ones selling...

This sums up my advice pretty well.
Not even mining is a great idea...
Those kind of investments are really not a bad idea since they really do have the risk of lossing money. Ex. You put up money on a p2p and others said its a bad idea but others could able to sustain and grow it. It depends on the person on how he manage it and avoid the possibilities to get losses of money. 10 BTC is huge already and you could actually put up money on some investments but if you are in doubt then its better to hold off.
8817  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What Is Bitcoin Trading and Why It's risky? on: November 30, 2016, 06:43:14 AM
I see you done probably burned yourself out trading bitcoin.  Ah well, better men have tried and failed.

You know dam well why this stuff is risky.  This ain't like the stock market.  These coins can and do go straight to zZero.  Or at the very least, one satoshi.  Gittin in an' out can be a problem if you sweatin' to death behinds the computer.  I tried it, didn't like it.  Better to play on them dice sites.  Least that way you git some fun outta it.
Never compare a gambling game to trading because  they are quiet different on some way even though they are the same on the risk involve of lossing out money. Yes,i admit trading is risky if you dont have enough knowledge and experience and also those fails and mistakes do really happen at first but those are good experience to learn even more on trading thats why we should really start only on small amounts.
8818  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your aim in gambling???? on: November 30, 2016, 06:25:40 AM
I use to do it just for fun but never won anything so gave it up now because did not want to go down the road that so many gamblers do trying to rake back what they have lost ending up losing more than they can afford to lose. Undecided
Good decision mate, at least you were able to see it early, don't allow yourself to add up on the list of gamblers who ruin their lives due to irresponsible gambling. As you said gambling is fun, but when the time comes you are losing the amount of money you can't afford that's not healthy anymore.

Good job!

It is right to control ourself in gambling, But gambling is not a bad way. It is a game of money, and if we lose in it, so it doesn't mean that we have lost in our life, only need to control ourself and our greediness and don't be addicted than nothing problem in gambling.
You will surely put your life into waste when you do gamble too much on your money and being  getting addicted into it. Self control would really be helpful regarding on this because it will really stop you from being getting broke on the long run.You should not aim for money when you do tend to play gambling its just really designed for entertainment and winning amounts are just a bonus on your leisure times.
8819  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Ever heard of a First Bitcoin? on: November 30, 2016, 06:16:55 AM
The recently I found a new coin under the name FirstBitcoin.
Official site : http://bitcoincapitalcorp.com/
What would you say about a coin?
I was very embarrassed that here in the forum have no information about her.
I would like to know more information.


iam frist hear about 1stbitcoin
another bitcoin is only altcoin, and altcoin use name about word bitcoin is bad, nothing altcoin is use name word bitcoin can to big coin
and 1st bitcoin nothing crate thread in annocuement, nothing detai spefication coin, only use wordpress is develop site
so if you want investment is becareful
We should really be careful on this kind of investment since its using the same name of bitcoin. From the word and name itself. Same as others mentioned here i only hear this thing only now and its really new in my ears.As ive visited on the site its really and investment site but i dont recommend it own my own views but if you do tend to invest then you should not put all of your money.
8820  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Online Gambling vs Real Gambling on: November 30, 2016, 05:59:48 AM
For me I Think online gambling is more safe than real life gambling, especially if in your country gambling is illegal, because if you are gambling in real and you get caught by police, jail is waiting for you.
How can you say that online gambling is more than safer than real life gambling? In my country real gambling here in really legal because they have paper to run there business. In online gambling you do not know if you win the big jackpot and they manipulate it or change the rules term and condition then you wil not get what you've won.
In your country gambling is legal means then no issue you can play you will not get any issue in online or real gambling. Because you are just a player not an owner of the casino. If the gambling is legal in the country, then I think for players there is no restrictions are there, But yes the feeling and rules and conditions are different in both real and online gambling.   
yeah some country allow online gambling as long as registered under certain institution, but prohibit and consider as illegal action if they gamble in the real casino . means everyone could gamble freely online , but not with real gambling. it seems not fair but you can't do anything as it's government policy , you have to obey on it.
If government will ban online gambling then you should really obey it because if they caught you you will end up jail but there are really ways to play online and its much possible to be accessible online rather than on playing gambling offline. VPN are still there which you could able to play gambling online without being caught by authorities but in offline gambling its not possible.
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