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81  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you blame someone for your gambling losses? on: May 16, 2024, 07:06:47 PM
Well, I just feel like they are regretting for their mistake. That is why it is always good to gamble with what you can afford to lose. Don’t just gamble because you see people gambling and you’re just greedy about it because you may end up on losing what you cannot afford and you end up on losing all of your life Saves, Gambling is not what you think it is. It is a proper aromatic that you need a good prediction and do the right thing.

Yes but the problem is that they blame others for the losses they experience, although incidents like this may not happen too often but the fact is that there are always some people who blame others for their losses, when clearly the one who should be blamed is themselves because after all they are the ones who make decisions in their bets, and other people never force them to follow their bets or other people never invite them to get involved in gambling.

I would say that blaming others is reasonable if they forced you to engage in gambling perhaps with some threats, but if they did not force you at all then obviously you are to blame for whatever you experienced. On the other hand one of the things that makes people get involved in gambling is usually because they see other people who manage to win big in gambling so they want the same victory and get involved in gambling, when obviously gambling is nothing more than a game of chance which means you will only win if you are lucky.
82  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why do some people hide to gamble on: May 16, 2024, 05:48:30 PM
That's the truth.

If you tell anyone that you're a gambler, they'd think you as a an addicted gambler without having any second thought. It is embedded to the thoughts of many that every gambler is an addicted gambler even not all of us are addicted.

We gamble but we're not addicted. That's the stigma as you've said that are in our society and there is no boundaries on this because in every country, it seems that it's always been like that and the case.
Depending on where you live that stigma can be quite common or very rare, but the most important part is that it exist and you have no way to know who has it, and if you were to reveal you gamble and suddenly you found out that a person close to you or someone that could influence your life was like that, it will be too late to retract your statement, so it is better to keep quiet about since what you like to do with your free time is information you have the right to keep private anyway.

Yup, that's right, as far as societal viewpoints go, it really depends on where you are, or I mean if your country is a country that really prohibits gambling for some reason then yes, the societal viewpoint is also likely to be very negative towards people who are involved in gambling, and it's a fact that even if you have a good approach to gambling, you still can't completely avoid the bad stigma that exists in the minds of the people around you.

At the end of the day they will still assume that you are someone who has a bad personality for being involved in gambling regardless of whether you are a responsible gambler or an addict. On the other hand, I don't think there is any point in publicizing our involvement in gambling to the people around us, because there is no way they will fund our gambling budget and it is also unlikely that they will care about us even if we are down, especially if we are in an anti-gambling  environment, so basically I think it is better to hide our gambling habits but also to always treat gambling with caution so that we avoid various bad possibilities.
83  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: An aggressive gambler irrelevantly easing his Irresponsible gambling manner. on: May 16, 2024, 05:28:58 PM
Someone betted on boxing and lost the game but the gambler out of grieve of his lost is trying to ease his emotion Said, It is okay as it is for at least the guy I betted on made me lost the game but had unfortunate for him too to had taken beaten of his life.


That is his way of easing his emotion of losing we all have that, and some gamblers will do and say crazy things like him; there's no logic in saying that because even if the man takes a beat he still gets guaranteed money, something the gambler overlooked, and of course, this is boxing boxers gets hurt, gets knock out they are trained to endure punishment and give out punishment.
If we're going to look at it, he's the only one who is sorry because he lost money and not the boxers, who has a guaranteed purse.

Yes actually it doesn't matter what form of medicine or how they relieve their emotions because in the end it leads to a good thing which is that they avoid dominating emotions which indirectly makes themselves avoid various actions out of control that can make them experience a more significant amount of loss, even though for example the way he relieves emotions is quite strange by feeling happy that the person he is betting on is experiencing various blows that make him suffer but on the other hand it doesn't matter because yes the goal is to relieve his emotions which indirectly as I said above that he avoids various impulsive decisions if he doesn't relieve his emotions.

If we are talking about a boxing game then yes it is clear that the loser is the one who is more injured by his opponent but after all this is a fighting game that will certainly always be injured and both players already know and understand the rules along with accepting whatever will happen to him, and although on the other hand his actions are quite good which is to calm his emotions but yes I think you are right that he is an irresponsible gambler who feels sorry.
84  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why People Naturally Chase loses in gambling.. on: May 16, 2024, 04:45:31 PM

It's very obvious that many individuals still think they could beat the house, it's not possible, the house would always have the winning edge and the more they continue to chase loses they're likely to keep enriching the house. The best thing to do when one loses funds is to pause for a while, restrategise and play again later instead of chasing loses and losing more money to the casino owners.
In fact, because of the betting rate, addiction can work in many people. Continue to try to bet again. The pain of losing funds after losing a bet is very painful. He begins to prepare for the restoration of funds and resumes his betting competition. In this case, over-addiction can increase his chances of re-betting and losing more funds instead of recovering them.

That is what irresponsible gamblers will do, or I mean those who cannot take responsibility for their decisions, or I would also say that it is an action that will be taken by gamblers who are unable to accept defeat in their gambling so that in the end they are emotional and do not accept the situation and conditions of their defeat which ultimately makes themselves think of chasing the losses they have experienced, and maybe I would say that gamblers who are ultimately addicted are losers who always want to win but are not ready to accept the risk of losing.

This is why it is important to have a thorough understanding of what gambling is all about, don't just look at the odds of winning but also see and understand that gambling is a risky activity where every gambler is required to take a certain amount of risk and if you are unlucky then obviously you will lose, and this is also the reason why all gamblers are always advised to only bet the amount they can afford to lose.
85  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How can we help beginners not to get addicted on: May 16, 2024, 04:26:56 PM

It's hard to control or remind anymore someone that's already addicted. We can tell them to do what they have to do as a guide for them but it won't be possible for them to follow as soon as they've hear it from us. There's also an ego matters on this one when they can no longer listen to the others because they're already addicted. The pride is there and their ears are already closed because one thing for them is to only chase their losses or if they're not in losses, they'd keep up with their potential profits and will continue to do so.
You are right that it is very difficult to get someone addicted to gambling back or to provide them with any advice. Over addiction began to damage his mental health a lot and then he fell into gambling addiction. His addiction may be for extra gain or extra loss. However, his close friends should take the leading role in this case to withdraw from addiction.

Overall yes it is true that addiction is a situation where someone is very difficult to give advice even though the advice is actually for their own good, it is because they are very stubborn and already have a different mindset from normal people in addressing gambling, usually someone who is addicted always believes and believes that they will be able to get a big win in their gambling activities that can change their fate to become a rich man for example, and if you continue to advise them then there is a possibility that they will think that you are someone who is too interfering with other people's affairs or can also cause a split in the social relationship between you and the person.

This is one of the reasons why addiction is very difficult to cure, none other than because they have entered a chronic mindset that is too sure of winning in gambling, when it is clear that the more they gamble, the possibility of losing will be greater. And if you already feel tired in terms of giving advice to them then I think let it go because in the end they will also definitely realize that what they are doing is wrong, especially when someday they experience a significant downturn that makes them really feel traumatized.
86  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling addiction causes loss on: May 16, 2024, 03:45:50 PM

That's right, that's what all gamblers should understand that no matter how good you are and no matter how many ways you have, losing will always be a very possible thing, or as you said and I agree with it that even though we have risk management that we apply as much as possible such as applying various precautions and limits, the risk of losing will always be a possible thing to happen.

Or what it means is that no matter how good your risk management is the possibility of losing will always be possible because after all the risk of losing will always be a part that can never be separated in gambling, but one of the reasons why we are always advised to apply a lot of precautions in our gambling activities is by having such an approach then we will avoid the possibility of losing too significant as experienced by gambling addicts who always overdo it and do not put limits on their gambling as you said which is an effective idea to minimize the possibility of losing too significant and keep us safe in the long run.

No matter what there's always big chance that you will lose, as even how deep the research and analysis, inside gambling risk is always at stake, you need to make sure that you have that strong capabilities to accept the outcome and always moving forward and not to allow your emotions to dwell with your defeat, as the chance that aggression will dominates you and you'll be force to keep placing your bet as long as you have the money to use.

From that stand point, you will extend your time and add more money which mostly cause of addiction and losing more money that you are not intending to use for your gambling activities.

Yes because after all the name of the bet will always have the possibility of losing, risk will always be part of the game no matter how good the strategy you apply, and this is the importance of why we must always be a responsible gambler in the sense that we can be accountable for all the decisions we have made when we have ended the session especially when we lose.

On the other hand, it is true as you said that having a wrong perspective on gambling will only prolong the time they have to increase the amount of money they lose along with leading them to the addiction phase quickly. So the bottom line is that it is very important to have a straight understanding of what gambling really is, don't just look at the odds because most likely you will only find more disappointment when you only focus on winning, but what is more important to understand is that however gambling is a risky activity that will make you lose any amount of money, this is a dangerous activity and that is why it is always recommended to always be careful.
87  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you gamble because you don't have sufficient money? on: May 16, 2024, 02:59:31 PM
Well more than 50% of gamblers always gamble because they don’t know much the cash going to last them so they go on gambling word and it get use to them, they even get addicted and more of their money go in, all because they are thinking they don’t have sufficient cash for their living and they go into gambling, I seen different kinds of people gambling because they don’t have enough money, but I don’t really think it a good idea.
That's not a good idea, but we also have to see that those who don't have money will definitely not gamble continuously unless they just play for free to get lucky there, because those who gamble every day are definitely people who have money. and they have even prepared special money for that. So even if they are addicted because they gamble very often, they won't experience any difficulties because they have set aside money specifically for this so it doesn't have any impact on their own lives.

Yes it is quite reasonable to say that someone who has problems in their finances then most likely they will not have more money to gamble more often, but on the other hand I think we can't just think up to this, remember that all people have a brain to think which can produce various decisions that they want, meaning that even if they don't have personal money to gamble with but it is possible for them to eventually do various ways or legalize various ways to get money for the purpose of gambling.

And I think it's not uncommon to see some gamblers who get caught up in the law because they say they stole or robbed a store to get money for betting, although not everyone dares to do such acts but there are always some people who are very desperate. On the other hand, I understand that those who gamble every day are those who have money, but you also have to think longer to identify where they get the money from, and as I said above, it is not uncommon for them to do crazy things to get money to finance their gambling habits, so we cannot say that gambling is only for those who have private money, because there are still quite a lot of other possibilities that can happen.
88  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does gambling excites you ? on: May 16, 2024, 02:39:08 PM

True, that is the disease that exists in some gamblers where they have the wrong mindset in terms of addressing what gambling really is, I am sure that from the beginning they only saw gambling in terms of opportunities to multiply their money but did not see that however gambling is an activity that has risks that sometimes the risks can be very high when you lose control. And maybe I would call them losers who usually always want to win but when they lose they get emotional and disappointed.

So actually what makes gamblers worse is because they themselves are wrong in terms of understanding how gambling actually is, as I said above that they only see gambling from one side, namely in terms of winning opportunities but they do not see in terms of risk. Therefore, before gambling we must first understand what we are going to do, such as by understanding that gambling is a game of probability that has absolutely no certainty and any guarantee of being able to win at the end of the session, simply put you can win but you can also lose, the chances are 50 : 50, meaning that we must really consider the risks before finally making a decision, which as we know that gamblers are only advised to risk the amount they can afford to lose along with only making gambling a place for entertainment without putting excessive expectations on winning, nothing else because with this it is less likely for you to experience emotions if the result is losing.

That is why games of chance are just that, games of chance that should give us joy and may sound a little masochistic, even if we lose because we have some fun left, even though we always seek to win, but we have to settle for fun, because if we start inventing to do another type of thing like gambling too much, then that is not healthy, it is already something that can go against the regulations to protect us against an addiction and that is something that we must avoid because we cvaer in Addiction means that we have to spend a lot of money, make more sacrifices, be left without money and not be well in any way.

Yes as you said that we can also say that gambling is a game of chance where when we are lucky then we will win but if the opposite then obviously we will lose. Everything in gambling is unpredictable, sometimes even if the game looks very good but it does not mean that in the end you will win, of course it is always possible for you to end up losing even if at the beginning you see some rounds look very good.

And I think this is the reason why we are always advised to only take the excitement in gambling, because the idea of earning can never work if you put the idea in the place of profit. From what you said I can conclude that what it means is that gambling excessively is the same as pushing yourself and leading yourself to the possibility of addiction where we are likely to spend more money without having the certainty of earning.
89  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Did gambling losses are traps to new game on: May 16, 2024, 02:16:06 PM
True, the fact is that no matter where you gamble and no matter what type of game you play, it is still a gamble that will ultimately refer to one of two possibilities at the end of the session, namely between winning and losing, and the main point is that anyone can never know about how the results they will get at the end of the session or simply as we often say that gambling is an activity that can never be predicted no matter how good the strategy you have.

However, if it is your time to lose then obviously you will lose and if luck comes at the right time then most likely you will win. I think this is the real fact about how gambling works and because of this also why we always suggest that never make gambling a place to earn because it makes no sense if you put your intention and goal to earn in a place that is completely unpredictable is a ridiculous idea that can never be justified. And like you said, it's best to have the perspective that gambling is nothing more than an entertainment game to pass the time when you're bored.

The game is to win or lose and to be lucky or not to be lucky at any given moment, the only thing I always look for is to have good luck to win some money, when we are on a good streak I think we can all do things better, I will always say something, if we start looking for a way to do everything right we can win, but when we lose we have to stop and not continue playing, if we play and lose a lot of money it is viable to stop , those who continue playing Experience many losses and can Falling into addiction, that is something that we have to avoid falling into , that is why we Always have to consider things , it is better to be calm and have fun than to have a bad time.

Actually there is not much we can do to bring victory, because of course as I said above that only luck can ensure that you will actually win at the end of the session, whatever the strategy and whatever method you use when gambling I will say that these actions will never be able to guarantee your victory at the end of the session, unless luck comes at the right time, and anyone will never know when luck will come, so this is what makes us always advise about it is better to gamble with a sufficient budget and not put too much hope on winning.

Simply put, if luck comes at the right time then you will win, so it's better to gamble with the amount you can afford to lose, don't overdo it because losing will always be a definite possibility when you are unlucky, and it's also better to focus on various precautions such as putting a lot of restrictions on the budget, time of involvement and expectations of winning, because as I said whatever you do can never guarantee winning completely, and by focusing more on precautions then obviously we will be a little less likely to lose significantly along with avoiding the possibility of addiction.
90  Economy / Gambling / Re: My betting strategies on: May 16, 2024, 01:50:37 PM
However, even though they have a strategy, it doesn't guarantee it completely, because in my opinion the strategy they have or believe in is still under luck. So if for example we don't have luck then the results will still be disappointing. I agree with you, maybe it's more about how luck guides you to win.

If a gambler is relying in their gambling strategy, they should also bear in mind that strategy for winning in gambling doesn't work all the time. I believe is the saying that gambling offers gamblers a 50% chance to win and also another 50% chance to lose. Even with good strategy, you can not win all the times unless if the gambler is using a cheat.


That's right, or it means they have to understand that strategy is just a tool that helps them to increase the chances of winning but does not mean that it can guarantee that you will win at the end of the session, still in the end only luck can really ensure that we will win, while the name of luck is always gray or never known when it comes and when it goes so this is the reason why we often say that gambling is an activity that can never be predicted which makes us always advised to only bet small amounts that we can afford.

On the other hand as you said about gamblers only having a 50: 50 between the chances of winning and the possibility of losing, and if you gamble by using a strategy then maybe your chances of winning are 70% but still the rest is luck, or that means 30% of the rest is luck which means that still if luck does not come at the right time then of course you will lose.
91  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling addiction causes loss on: May 15, 2024, 08:45:31 PM
Some people rely don’t understand this gambling thing, you need to take a maximum precaution to avoid unnecessary losses and to avoid being in difficult situations because of over gambling and it will result to something bad and you may not even like the next action, over gambling is not good and don’t advise anybody to do that

In gambling there is always this possibility that we lose our bankroll no matter how we put maximum precaution there is always a chance for our bankroll to get emptied.  What we need in this case is responsible gambling wherein we allocate a certain percentage of our bankroll and stick with it no matter how strong the temptation of chasing losses.  This way we will be able to minimize our losses and may be able to extend our existing bankroll for another gambling session.

That's right, that's what all gamblers should understand that no matter how good you are and no matter how many ways you have, losing will always be a very possible thing, or as you said and I agree with it that even though we have risk management that we apply as much as possible such as applying various precautions and limits, the risk of losing will always be a possible thing to happen.

Or what it means is that no matter how good your risk management is the possibility of losing will always be possible because after all the risk of losing will always be a part that can never be separated in gambling, but one of the reasons why we are always advised to apply a lot of precautions in our gambling activities is by having such an approach then we will avoid the possibility of losing too significant as experienced by gambling addicts who always overdo it and do not put limits on their gambling as you said which is an effective idea to minimize the possibility of losing too significant and keep us safe in the long run.
92  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Have you won a bet with your last cash? on: May 15, 2024, 08:07:47 PM
This happens to me one time that I cannot forget , back in teenage when we are actively playing head/tail with my teenage friends as that time i made a biggest mistake in college life that i use my tuition fee to gamble (actually we all used our tuition fees to try beating each other)

but seems that I am not a luck friend that moment because i kept losing to the point that for that couple of hours betting i am not lucky ,until the last couple of bucks in pocket that I Declared to be my last money and I will go home after that bet but luckily ? i won and from that point , i kept winning to the end that i took all their tuition and heads home with pull pocket and smile in my face.

if you're not lucky and losing bet after bet the best thing to do is to take a break and breath
chill out a little bit and relax
life is funny sometimes... better to take it slow than to keep insisting and lose everything...

Obviously, there is no better decision than to quit and take a break, because I'm sure that when you're on a losing streak then emotions are bound to run high especially if you're gambling with the intention and purpose of earning. In fact resuming a gambling session after a losing streak will most likely only lead you to a much worse situation, because most likely everything will end badly when they do it based on emotions which will certainly make them make unexpected decisions.

But in some cases some people prefer to continue rather than stop and will say that they are gamblers who are unable to accept the fact of losing or those who do not understand that however losing will always be a part of gambling so they usually continue the session with the intention and purpose of chasing losses, and as I said above that the idea will actually only lead them to a much worse situation, but this is what irresponsible gamblers do.
93  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you gamble because you don't have sufficient money? on: May 15, 2024, 06:37:51 PM

For those who arent that fortunate or something that living on an average life when it comes to financial aspect or condition then it would really be that very normal that there would really be that kind of some sort of kind of wishful thinking about being a winner in gambling and could changed up their lives via hitting those huge multipliers or hitting up those jackpots on which on the time that you would really be finding yourself having this kind of mindset then it wont really be shocking that you will really be that ending up on spending up more on gambling and since we know that gamblers do always sits down on the loser side then this is where you would really be starting to make out those kind of regrets in the end that you shouldnt have been that spending too much money with it.
Just like on what everyone is really that saying that people would really be stopping on the time that they would really be experiencing those hard situations and not into those moments that
they are still on the verge of losing that on small parts.

knowing when to stop is one of these things that is easier said than done
in Brazil there's about 4 times more people gambling than investing on stocks
I don't blame them but... isn't it crazy?

Exactly, like you said knowing when to quit is much easier said than done, and I'm sure there are some gamblers who always suggest that to other gamblers but they themselves don't have that ability Cheesy

But forget it because I also understand that it is not an easy thing to do, even if you are still really struggling to do it then try to make yourself realize that gambling is nothing more than a game of "possibility" which means that even if you continue then there will never be any certainty that you can win with this action. And yes, there is also nothing wrong with always advising others regarding things that are always recommended to do, at least you have reminded others.

On the other hand, I'm quite concerned when I hear what you say about the situation in Brazil, I don't really know about the real reason but certainly it seems that there are still few people there who know the real facts about gambling.
94  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you think gambling every day is better? on: May 15, 2024, 06:12:59 PM

This is exactly what I gets from this comment, a gambler needs more efforts to get rid of his additive behaviors, most addicts don't know how to get rid of their addiction because they don't know what is required to stop gambling or how to control themselves from gambling always. Some people immediately they gets a little $ they look for the nearest place that they will gamble because it's either the money is not enough for them or they believes that while gambling they might be able to double the amount they they have.
The reason some people look for the nearest place to indulge in gambling is simply that they cannot find a better option, if they invest or accumulate, it will take too long and what's more, the addict's brain probably really can't hold any more calculations, at that point it's just dice, cards and odds, without any investment rationality. There are actions that are exciting but not good for forming a habit, gambling is an action that poses potential future risks, wrong approach and addiction will be a gloomy sky for the participants

True, or we can also say that they are losers who want everything instantly but do not want to work hard or try first to achieve it, so this is the reason why I believe that most gamblers who eventually experience a downturn are because they are looking for something instant, or want big results but not accompanied by reasonable effort and hard work, and instead rely on chance and luck.

On the other hand, actually whatever we do always has the possibility of risk, such as building a business that is at risk of failure or bankruptcy but this is a journey that will definitely give someone success if they want to try to continue to learn because of the experience and knowledge they can get that can make them turn decisions into profits, But if we talk about gambling then obviously no matter how and until whenever gambling is always an activity that can never be predicted, there is no experience whatsoever that can be used as a basis for decision making, in the end if you are lucky then that's where you will win, this is the reason why gambling does not make sense to make as a place to earn.
95  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does gambling excites you ? on: May 15, 2024, 05:17:39 PM
Since we do gambling for fun then we feel so excited to try our luck for the day. As long as we do it for fun we're good no hurt feelings when losing and stuff like that but that's when it turns different when we are expecting something good from our bets or we gamble for money things will feel really different as we may get upset or disappointed everytime we lose.

Yes, that's how it should be, gambling is just for fun, not as a main source of income to earn money, but many people, on the contrary, consider gambling as a way to earn money so that when they fail to bet, they will lose. disappointed. different from people who gamble just for fun, if they lose they think it's normal,
and this is not to patronize, gambling is just for fun because this is all just a game if we are too serious about gambling then disappointment will be obtained.

True, that is the disease that exists in some gamblers where they have the wrong mindset in terms of addressing what gambling really is, I am sure that from the beginning they only saw gambling in terms of opportunities to multiply their money but did not see that however gambling is an activity that has risks that sometimes the risks can be very high when you lose control. And maybe I would call them losers who usually always want to win but when they lose they get emotional and disappointed.

So actually what makes gamblers worse is because they themselves are wrong in terms of understanding how gambling actually is, as I said above that they only see gambling from one side, namely in terms of winning opportunities but they do not see in terms of risk. Therefore, before gambling we must first understand what we are going to do, such as by understanding that gambling is a game of probability that has absolutely no certainty and any guarantee of being able to win at the end of the session, simply put you can win but you can also lose, the chances are 50 : 50, meaning that we must really consider the risks before finally making a decision, which as we know that gamblers are only advised to risk the amount they can afford to lose along with only making gambling a place for entertainment without putting excessive expectations on winning, nothing else because with this it is less likely for you to experience emotions if the result is losing.
96  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: When is best for a player to draw the line? on: May 15, 2024, 04:57:50 PM
Control is everything when it comes to gambling, if you lack control and patience, you will barely be able to gamble responsibly because you won't be able to stop whether you are winning or losing. You will think you can recover your losses when you are losing and you will think you can win more when you are winning and it's all because you are mentally weak and have no control over your emotions and your emotions are driving you to do things that you shouldn't.

If we are not able to control it, it means we will become more addicted and will gamble at a different level.
For people who are addicted, it will be a little more difficult to stop, whether they are losing or experiencing luck. Because the desire to continue in the hope of getting a big win will be much stronger.
The lack of control also affects emotions and this kind of gambler will usually be much more difficult to advise. Controlling emotions in gambling is the same as controlling ourselves and if we fail then everything will be much more complicated.

Gambling addiction is always caused because someone is unable to control their gambling activities so that this is what makes them eventually enter the addiction phase, and it is very clear that when someone has entered the addiction phase then they will really find it difficult to stop gambling regardless of the situation, in fact if you have entered this phase then there is very little chance for you to stop, because usually when someone has entered the addiction phase then even if they manage to win but in the end they will still continue because they are unable to ignore the greed that is in them which in the end as we know that greed more often leads someone to significant regret.

So simply put, addiction is a situation where when you win you will be addicted and when you lose you will be even more curious, meaning there is absolutely no point that can make you stop regardless of the situation and conditions. And also addiction is a situation where the person already has a different mindset from normal people in general, they have a high level of confidence and hope in winning so that sometimes they do not hesitate to justify all means such as borrowing money, or stealing money just to gamble and they consider that it is an action that is not a problem to do, even though it clearly has the potential for significant adverse effects.
97  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Did gambling losses are traps to new game on: May 15, 2024, 04:37:29 PM
Just like what most people here say, casinos have a house edge which allows them to gain more profits than the players. So no matter how players set their strategy, they will not be able to beat casinos which have algorithms designed with a higher chance of winning. Because I know this, I consider that gambling is just entertainment - I don't use gambling as a place to make a lot of money, even borrowing people's money just to chase wins - I consider it to be entertainment to fill my free time.

True, the fact is that no matter where you gamble and no matter what type of game you play, it is still a gamble that will ultimately refer to one of two possibilities at the end of the session, namely between winning and losing, and the main point is that anyone can never know about how the results they will get at the end of the session or simply as we often say that gambling is an activity that can never be predicted no matter how good the strategy you have.

However, if it is your time to lose then obviously you will lose and if luck comes at the right time then most likely you will win. I think this is the real fact about how gambling works and because of this also why we always suggest that never make gambling a place to earn because it makes no sense if you put your intention and goal to earn in a place that is completely unpredictable is a ridiculous idea that can never be justified. And like you said, it's best to have the perspective that gambling is nothing more than an entertainment game to pass the time when you're bored.
98  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Double your money and quite on: May 15, 2024, 04:17:15 PM
If we keep repeating the same mistake again and again then nobody can save us and we will eventually end up in huge trouble.
If you know that you are losing frequently then you should just quit gambling for sometime and control your urge to gamble and chase losses.
This self control is needed and that is what OP is talking about since he quits right after winning his desired amount.
The majority of the gamblers out there will realize this truth after a few bad sessions in which they were ahead, but their desire to obtain more profits pushed them to keep gambling and eventually lose them, this will demonstrate to them that they need to keep control of themselves at all times and that failing to do this can only lead them to disaster, but there are a few gamblers out there which will refuse to believe this even with the evidence right in front of them, and those are people that will become problematic gamblers on the future.

Basically there is nothing wrong with caring about each other, or what it means is that there is nothing wrong with telling anyone to improve their mindset and approach to safer gambling, and if for example the scenario is like what you said where they reject some effective advice that leads to their own good then I think let it go, we don't need to care too much about people who don't know themselves, because in the end they will also remember that what we said before is true when they have experienced the worst impact caused by always repeating mistakes in treating their gambling activities. Usually people will only want to change when they have experienced a significant downturn that really traumatizes them, one day they will realize that putting hope in a place that has absolutely no certainty and any guarantee is a bad idea that makes them experience a lot of downturns.
99  Economy / Gambling / Re: My betting strategies on: May 15, 2024, 02:57:06 PM

With those who gamble, there are those who believe that the strategy they have can produce something they really want. It's true what you said, there are also things that have succeeded in increasing their self-confidence, including the strategy they believe in, which in my opinion is also one of the things that makes them confident when gambling, so that they think about the strategy they have. it can make them get what they want.

However, even though they have a strategy, it doesn't guarantee it completely, because in my opinion the strategy they have or believe in is still under luck. So if for example we don't have luck then the results will still be disappointing. I agree with you, maybe it's more about how luck guides you to win.
This is why this gambling industry is really that profitable because it is really that making a cycle basing up on what are those things that in peoples mind and having that kind of consideration that they might be able to make those bets to be that winnings because of the strategies that they are really that indeed applying on which this would really be something a continous process because people/gamblers would really be definitely be finding up those things to be that winning or something that they would be able to call it effective. Gamblers would really be having that never ending search about making those kind of strategies. Somewhat it would really be that relevant considering that in sports betting you would really be needing up to find those relevant information or whatsoever on which it is really that unlike into those
games which are luck based ones then it would really be something insignificant.

Yes, but whatever strategy and however good they have in the end, they will never be able to guarantee a complete victory, because after all, gambling is still gambling, meaning that even if for example you bet on a type of bet such as sports by applying a strategy that you believe that there will always be some sessions that end in disappointment. One of the reasons is that we never know about what will happen on the field that might make the team you bet on experience problems so that the opportunity to win becomes smaller which indirectly the situation can also make you lose the bet you have started. This means that no matter where you bet a gambler should always have the understanding that gambling is always about a game of chance between winning or losing, or meaning that losing in gambling will always be a possibility, meaning that there is no reason for a gambler not to take responsibility for the decisions they have made if they will not feel too sorry when the results are not suitable.
100  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Chased loss, got it back and lost everything. on: May 15, 2024, 02:36:55 PM
Yes, gambling, especially the type of slot game or crash game, is a game that only relies on luck, meaning that chasing losses in gambling will never be useful and in fact, in the end, as in several cases that have often happened, they end up experiencing a much larger amount of loss or loss. but strangely enough they still carried out this idea, and I am sure one of the reasons was because of the enormous encouragement of hope and belief in their minds.

I think they have to re-understand what luck really is, especially how it works, because as we know, luck is something that will come suddenly and happen by chance without ever knowing beforehand, and this is also the reason sometimes when we come without any hope of winning but the result at the end of the session is winning, that means luck comes even though we don't expect it and this also means that luck is the only thing that can lead you to actual victory. So I think if a gambler understands how luck works then I think it is less likely for them to overact like chasing losses, because they understand that after all the odds are still 50:50 as you said.

Gambling isn't runned on the basis of gamblers winning or in anyway wants you to win. It a game of probability which is unpredictable you only need to just accept any outcome as far as you risk responsibly. This alone should stick to our brains, thus modify how we risk and thinking towards gambling.

For me gambling after a loss isn't chasing  if your amount (limit) haven't been met. It only wrong when you gamble after exceeding your limit, even in time of winning if after any win you keep gambling even after your limit have been met you are still chasing.

True, and this is the reason why a gambler is more advised to only put the amount of money that they can afford to be responsible for, not least because after all as you said above that gambling is a game of probability which means it is nothing more than a game of "possibility" that will lead you to two results at the end of the session between winning or losing, and we must first understand that winning is nothing more than a chance while losing is a risk that will inevitably occur when we are away from luck.

Gambling after losing is not chasing losses? I think for this issue depends on how the intention of a gambler, and we must understand that the name chasing losses means that a gambler is unable to accept the reality of losing and also the name chasing losses is usually always based on emotions because of the desire to restore something that has been lost, and I think we already understand that emotions are always the trigger for many mistakes in terms of decision making, meaning that gambling with the intention of chasing losses is an action that will lead them to a greater amount of loss or that will make them exceed the limits they can be responsible for.
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