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81  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can a seed phrase on steel or titanium sheet survive this flood? on: April 28, 2024, 01:59:40 PM
Steel or Titanium?

If its Steel it needs to be Stainless Steel and there are different grades of SS available for different
applications but generally SS does not corrode like mild or carbon steel.

Any other steel wouldnt be recommended because of corrosion.

The same goes for Titanium, it doesnt corrode so a seed phrase stamped onto either of those two
metals will survive a flood, i.e Water!

Normally what has been suggested in other threads is that a "seed plate" should be attached to
something in your house or garage, something kind of inaccessible or hard to reach and out of
plain view obviously so if that is the case it wouldnt get swept away by the receding current.
82  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tennis League All Thread on: April 27, 2024, 04:58:57 PM
Yeah, let's see Rafa against de Minaur today.
They played recently in Barcelona and de Minaur won easily, it will be a good match to compare and check Nadal's progress.

I expect de Minaur to win again, but if Nadal means business on RG he needs to do a lot better than 2 weeks ago.

Not this time!
Rafa probably learned more from that previous meeting than de Minaur did, first set
wasnt easy though. He plays Cachin next and if he gets past him I recon it will be a
good enough performance for Rafa to decide to play RG...

Nadal vs de minaur its interesting also for the high odds for both player. Despite the previous loss the Australian player has a nice odd @1.60 ...

Meanwhile Sinner has won easily against Sonego.
He continue a strong progression during this year, lets see what he can achieve from the tournament... This is not his best surface where to play ...

What were the odds on Rafa today?

Yea Sinner had an easy day out against his best friend.

Next up in a few minutes is Norrie v Fonseca, the odds on this one are 1.5 v 2.5, small
bet on Fonseca!
83  Economy / Speculation / Re: When do we really note it for Bitcoin ATH on: April 27, 2024, 01:53:32 PM


So, exactly when can we have declare an ATH to be?
Is it really subjected to any price that just broke the previous ATH even when we know it ain’t going to hold for long? Because we just might have way too many ATH in the previous!

After the Bull market has ended.

Historically 12 months approximately after the halving is when the Bull market has ended
and the Bear market begins, its has been part of Bitcoins 4 year cycle.

or when the market falls for a certain length of time. ATM we can refer to Bitcoins ATH as
~$73,000

If you want to know specifically when that happens - nobody is going to be able to
tell you that. There are only two certainties in life 'Death and Taxes'
84  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Rugby] Union / League / Super / Sixes Sevens Pro14 / Cups & Tours / Olympics on: April 27, 2024, 08:17:50 AM
Broncos have started brightly 0-16 at half time, Tigers have a fair bit of catching up to
do now in the second half...



URC

We had two matches last night and between those two matches 131 points were scored!
I watched the highlights and both matches were just action packed in terms of scoring.

Scarlets 27 - 32 Sharks
Ulster 38 - 34 Bennetton

I'm going with a 4 match parlay in todays matches, total 2.83.

Zebre to be beaten at home by Glasgow Warriors
Bulls at home to beat the Ospreys
Cardiff to be beaten at home by Edinburgh
Lions to be beaten at home by Munster
85  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tennis League All Thread on: April 26, 2024, 07:09:05 PM
I think Blanch in 2-3 years will be in top 200
More like in top 20.  Cool

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Nadal will take part in this year's Laver Cup, perhaps this will be his last tournament before finally retiring from tennis completely.
What about Roland Garros? I guess RG is the ultimate goal for Rafa this season. If not for RG, Rafa would have retired from tennis already. He just wants to play in Paris so bad for one final time...

I posted yesterday that if Rafa doesnt feel like he is going to be competitive at RG he
is not going to play! He has already said that this years Madrid is his last one so I
guess this is his final year.


Osaka won today beating Minnen 6-4, 6-1. She plays Samsonova next which could be
a tricky onr
Even though Naomi Osaka lost to Liudmila Samsonova, it was a very close match, and seeing Osaka's good performance on clay, it seems there is hope for her this clay season to achieve something better.


Yea if Samsonova is having a good day there are few if any who can beat her and I
think she was on top form so even for Osaka playing very good was not enough.
I hope too that we see Naomi back to her top form soon, hopefully this clay season.
86  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Rugby] Union / League / Super / Sixes Sevens Pro14 / Cups & Tours / Olympics on: April 26, 2024, 07:24:54 AM
I'm watching the Storm spank the pants of the Rabbitohs in much the same way the Roosters poured ice over the Dragons to win 60 - 18.

At the start of the day, the Warriors had an early lead which they squandered then were unable to come back to loose 24 - 27.

That'll mean I'm two from three this round.

Jeez, the Rabbitohs are still stuck on the bottom after that loss. If they lose a few more
rounds I'd say their season is over.

The two teams I'm following this season, Wests Tigers and Broncos are facing off
against each other tomorrow, thats a pity but it has to happen.

The Warriors would want to up their performance too, they are slipping down the ladder,
a bit disappointing after their good season last year.
87  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is the West Bank occupied? on: April 26, 2024, 03:22:12 AM
...whatever is south of Canada.


do you really not know what is south of Canada?

The 'West Bank' is an area in the Middle East, a Palestinian territory, I dont think anyone has
ever called the East coast of Northern America and Canada the West bank of the Atlantic.

I asked Google if there was a magical place called the West bank of the Atlantic
and they couldnt tell me.

I also checked to see if Google had an answer to the question of "what country
is to the South of Canada" and sure enough they had an answer!

It is the United States of America!

I dove further to see if there were any towns and cities along that coast line, the West
bank of the Atlantic occupied by Humans....

Sure enough Google was able to tell me, YES there are people living there, actually one
of the largest cities in the world is there, New York!
88  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tennis League All Thread on: April 25, 2024, 08:30:23 PM
It certainly will be interesting to see how he competes, also Sinner who has taken a mini
break and should be fresh. He is top seed!

Nadal is playing tomorrow. He has also mentioned that this is his last Madrid tournament
and if he doesnt think he is competitive he wont play at Paris!

Yeah, the 16 yo guy who is going to play Rafa, I know him a bit. Not personally ofc but I have a certain connection to junior tennis as I mentioned before. So that Blanch guy is really good and is definitely capable of defeating Rafa question is if he's mentally ready for this. That is going to be an exciting match.

No is the answer serveria! he was like a "deer caught in the headlights", the prospect
of facing off against a living legend of the game was too much. There were some nice
rallies and great shot making but he just made too many mistakes, and you cant do that
against the top guys, no doubt we will hear more of him!

Funny how the draw works out sometimes, Nadal faces de Minaur next, a replay of their
meeting at Barcelona 2 weeks ago!

Another youngster of the game Fonseca won today in 3 sets against Michelsen and
plays Norris next, bit of a chance there for him to progress.
89  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The impactation of Bitcoin halving and my opinion on: April 25, 2024, 01:56:41 PM
Actually the bull run that would happen after halving event is just a pure speculation.

If halving event is the reason of bull run, why it's need to wait for next few months or year to increase? there's nothing difference between during halving event and a year after halving event because the reward already halved.

I agree that it is all pure speculation as we have neither proof nor any guarantee for it. But the bull season did not come immediately after the halving and that we hastily concluded that the halving was not the catalyst that created the bull season is not entirely correct. Everything takes time to absorb and be effective, we cannot expect it to happen immediately.

Furthermore, this is the financial market and if everything is so predictable then who will be the losers in the market? Making money in the financial markets has never been easy and there aren't too many winners, so it has to happen in the most unexpected way. When the crowd is most hopeful and excited, it will not come, but when the crowd becomes depressed and disappointed, that is when the bull season will come.

Personally, I still believe that the halving is the catalyst for the bull season, but the market is also being manipulated so the bull season will always come in the most unexpected way.

Good points, something I never thought about before but it makes sense that the Halving is the
catalyst for the bull market which has followed every time so far. I guess its speculation, everyone
knows "its going to happen" and we all move in that direction which actually creates the bull market,
maybe its like a self-fulfilling prophecy?

Maybe its a HODL'ing thing, there is a increase in adoption, more people getting into Bitcoin, more
speculators, more buying and HODL'ing even when the dump happens.


Furthermore, this is the financial market and if everything is so predictable then who will be the losers in the market?



The losers will be the ones who essentially "buy high" and "sell low".
Some people want to see results before they get into Bitcoin so they only buy when the price is high,
we all know that the markets dont keep going up and up. There will be others approximately 12 months
from now who will but right before a big market correction if it happens as per previous post halving market corrections



 
90  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I don’t like the term “crypto” on: April 25, 2024, 07:54:07 AM
crypto is more of a shortened word for all cryptocurrency

however some define individual coins differently
digital assets, digital commodities, tokens, coins, meme-stock, crap coins
deflationary currencies,

there is no law on how you define it, there is no law forcing everyone to call bitcoin a 'crypto'.
just use terms that describe them properly(good adjectives/nouns) and make the descriptor popular

and also "Cryptography" which is what all Crypto "projects" are based on.

Unfortunately because of the negative rhetoric over the years from financiers, politicians and news outlets
Bitcoin was primarily at the centre of their attacks. Now even though Bitcoin has garnered a better view
from the groups above it is seen to be included in any report about scams or negativity about $hitcoins
in the news. They obviously dont/cant differentiate the difference between Bitcoin and Crypto/$shitcoins.

Unfortunately, it is what it is and really nothing is going to change.
91  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tennis League All Thread on: April 24, 2024, 09:04:21 PM
It certainly will be interesting to see how he competes, also Sinner who has taken a mini
break and should be fresh. He is top seed!

Nadal is playing tomorrow. He has also mentioned that this is his last Madrid tournament
and if he doesnt think he is competitive he wont play at Paris!



On the womens side Raducanu has been eliminated by Carle, thats a disappointing result
just when we were expecting some good results from her.

Osaka won today beating Minnen 6-4, 6-1. She plays Samsonova next which could be
a tricky onr
92  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [LIVE] 🌍🌎🌏 Community group participation - Bitcoin Colouring Book - CLOSED on: April 24, 2024, 02:32:09 PM

2.) Auction it to the wider BCT community
* funds generated to be divided out among the contributors to cover postage costs incurred
** mj you will have to incur the cost of final postage


If this option is selected, why would other contributor's post cost be covered but not mine? Huh

it would be mj!

i'm just saying that we have all had to post to the next in line, and the next in line after
you will be its final destination. we will all be in the pot for divvying out the proceeds.
apologies for not being clearer.
93  Economy / Collectibles / Re: Join Bitcoin Forum COLLECTIBLES EXCLUSIVE ARTWORK PROJECT with Crypto Artist 1Dq on: April 24, 2024, 08:07:27 AM
Just hopping back into this thread and WOW what a transformation from first post to
this!

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Ob the Bitcoin ticker on top, which number should be showing? Maybe the all time high, or the actual number as I finish the piece?

I think the number you finish this on is the most fitting!

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Maybe the most fun is which part of our forum the monitor would show?

I think it would be interesting to see the first page of this thread or a version of it.

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I was thinking of again using real gold to paint a couple of details, like the coin in Bitcollector's hand, what do you think?

Absolutely, this essentially is the focal point of the piece.

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And if the shirt can become a statement as well, and ideas?

maybe just the BTC symbol as a pattern?
94  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [LIVE] 🌍🌎🌏 Community group participation - Bitcoin Colouring Book - CLOSED on: April 24, 2024, 07:42:55 AM
I have finally completed my page.
Not sure what comes next... Huh

Excellent news mj!

Its remarkable that we got to this point with the book travelling so far and through
so many "trains, planes and automobiles" without getting lost or seriously damaged.

Well done to all of you 👍

My two options to decide its next journey are:

1.) Raffle it among the participants only
* in order to make it a level playing field everyone gets 1 ticket
** mj you will have to incur the cost of final postage

2.) Auction it to the wider BCT community
* funds generated to be divided out among the contributors to cover postage costs incurred
** mj you will have to incur the cost of final postage

Whoever wins the book takes full ownership and can share the images as they want,
sell it later or just HODL it.


95  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Rugby] Union / League / Super / Sixes Sevens Pro14 / Cups & Tours / Olympics on: April 23, 2024, 01:11:26 PM
Yea it will be interesting to see if the Dolphins can make it to the finals let alone the top 4.
I'm also interested in both the Broncos and Wests Tigers this season.



This weekend is Round 15 of 18 in the United Rugby Championship.

Table toppers Leinster are again away this round to the Stormers, I'm guessing they
will put out the B teams because of their Semi final of the European Champions Cup
is next weekend. They have sold out our national sports arena with over 80,000 capacity.

The 8, 9, 10 and 11 positions in the table are really competitive now to reach it
to the URC finals, Edinburgh, Connacht, Ulster and Lions are all on 39 points.
96  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tennis League All Thread on: April 23, 2024, 12:57:05 PM

Congratulations to Jan-Lennard Struff. 15 years as a professional tennis player and now he has finally won a tournament for the first time. Struff coped better with the weather at this tournament than many of his opponents. It remains to be seen whether this was an one-off event or whether the knot has now burst.

Brilliant win by Struff. Its interesting to see these older players still able to win.  It just
goes to prove many aspects of the tennis.

I find it remarkable that someone can maintain the motivation for so long. And that he keeps financially getting supported.

I havent thought about something like that until this prompted me to check
out his status and he has only been in 3 finals and only 1 title, prize money $500k.

It is amazing but I think there was a discussion a few years ago about the topic
of how all players are financially able to be on tour when there are only so few able
to reach the finals and take massive prize money.

The vast majority of players must be struggling to remain on tour financially.
97  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What if they centralized Bitcoin? on: April 22, 2024, 08:27:38 PM
First, Core devs so far rejected all the proposed changes that would lead to even small centralization. Does this mean that this will continue in the future? We can't predict what Core devs will be in 100 years from now, but in the observable near future it's safe to assume that they will keep maintaining decentralization.

Next, extreme centralization will simply quickly kill Bitcoin. Many banks around the world already offer instant zero fee transactions without bank maintenance charges and offer cashback on top of it. How can even a highly centralized Bitcoin compete against that? And if Bitcoin will try to keep being the libertarian money, it will suffer the fate of Liberty Reserve.


Of course, disregarding and ditching one of Bitcoins key features would not end well.

I'm sure everyone has heard the phrase "killing the Goose who lays the Golden eggs"*
making Bitcoin centralised would kill Bitcoin. Having a global network of groups and
independent people mining and hosting nodes gives Bitcoin its security, anyone can
decide to do this if they want, development is carried out through consensus, anyone
can propose a change or upgrade to the network.

all these go with centralisation so why would everyone involved "kill the Goose that lays
the Golden eggs"?



* wikipedia.org
98  Economy / Speculation / Re: The Daily FUD Thread: Michael Saylor dumps his MSTR shares on: April 22, 2024, 06:24:38 PM
It doesn't matter who you are, if your not diversified into other sectors your just and idiot.

All in on one thing is all in on ignorance.

Saylor is no idiot.

We have had many discussions about diversification and what would be a companion
with Bitcoin.

I would say of all people Michael Saylor would have only Bitcoin in his basket purely
based on what he has preached over the last couple of years there isnt anything
else worth having.

The article from the OP from 19th April mentions he has Class B and Class shares
from 2014 and these are the ones he wants to sell quickly so that more than likely
he can buy more Bitcoin!

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Saylor is the largest MicroStrategy shareholder, with Class B holdings worth about $2.3 billion.
At the end of 2023, Saylor owned another 400,000 Class A shares due to an option he received
in 2014. Those are the shares he’s selling with speed.
99  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tennis League All Thread on: April 22, 2024, 06:39:41 AM
He definitely has a chance but we will have to wait and see how each player finishes at
the Madrid tournament to see how close it will be for the Rome tournament. There is one thing
for sure though, Sinner wont be letting the possibility of becoming number 1 take over his emotions.

Qualifying in both the mens and womens is underway at Madrid.



Yesterdays final over at Barcelona did end up being  Tsitsipas v Ruud with the Greek
unable beat Ruud this time out, it was over in 2 sets so that price of 2.35 on Ruud after
he was broken in the first set was massive
100  Economy / Speculation / Re: The Daily FUD Thread: Michael Saylor dumps his MSTR shares on: April 21, 2024, 06:43:21 PM
FUD alright.

I havent read anywhere that Saylor dumped Bitcoin so whats the big deal? There is no
market reaction to this news yet.

Anyone who owns Bitcoin regardless of the quantity has the option to sell or HODL.

The way some people think they believe once a Whale like Saylor buys Bitcoin they shouldnt
be permitted to sell it ever again. Nobody has the right to create such laws.

If those people are afraid of what such an action would do to the markets, just remember
that Bitcoin is bigger than any one person or entity, and any reaction in the markets
would be very temporary.
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