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601  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tennis League All Thread on: November 07, 2023, 05:27:41 PM
It will be touch and go really, he needs 13 more titles to beat that record. Going by this years performance
of 6 titles it will take him another 2 years approximately. He still have the mental strength, skills and fitness
but he needs to maintain this level and not get injured.

Yes I would probably bet against it too realy.

Looking at it statistically - he won his first trophy in 2006 I think and has 97 titles - meaning that he is winning an average of 5.7 titles per year.
He's won 5 last year and is currently on 6 in 2023.

He'd have to keep averaging the same until he's 39 years old in order to achieve it. Probably doable, but definitely not likely.
The only thing working in his favor is that the current crop of players is below the standard we've been used to in the last 20 years or so.

Yes I agree that currently the quality is not as it was with Federer, Nadal, Djokovic and Murray and
because he is the last of the 4 still playing top tennis he can continue his winning levels.

Its interesting that his average is 5.7 titles per year and he is still on that average winning streak.

Also it has to be said that of the current players there are a few who could possibly improve like:
Alcaraz, Rune and Sinner.

There are those who could still maintain their current level: Medvedev, Rublev, Tsitsipas and Zverev,
meaning they are probably not going to improve IMO.

And all the rest will either marginally improve but not enough to reach top 5.

Thats how I'm seeing it now so if Alcaraz can improve and take a few GS's next year he will be a
big obstacle to Djokovic beating that 109 title record.
602  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [SALE] Icarus Timeline Edition 10/2023 (designed by mx12.levins)🔐🕰️ on: November 07, 2023, 01:25:47 PM
Looking at mine now too and I really like it.
Well done to mx12.levins on the artwork and to the Icarus team, great quality as per previous releases.

Already looking forward to this months release....

*one small note I want to make is that I think the text overall is a little small, I'm struggling to read the BTC address
603  Economy / Speculation / Re: back in 2015 we had a nice pre 1/2 ing streak. on: November 07, 2023, 07:28:39 AM
When Bitcoin was valued at ~$1 there were a lot of people who couldnt comprehend the
value going to ~$100 let alone $1000. I believe Bitcoin could be entering a new phase which
will take the market into a new range which will surprise a lot more people.
604  Economy / Speculation / Re: back in 2015 we had a nice pre 1/2 ing streak. on: November 06, 2023, 09:16:51 PM
I read/heard somewhere that an internal memo was leaked from Blackrock who would
advise that their clients should have something like 83.5% of their portfolio in Bitcoin or maybe "crypto"?!

If that is the case any coins sold at $500k would be snapped up and never seen again
for a very long time all depending on an ETF approval of course.

There are a lot of reports out there some conjured up to make sales etc. but I definitely
think there is massive demand for Bitcoin from those who want an asset manager to look
after it for them and who have no interest in buying a Trezor and minding their seed phrase!

So that alone should fuel philipma1957's projection to $500k regardless of the 2015 comparison.
605  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: How to invest 8k for passive income. on: November 06, 2023, 07:07:46 PM
Why are you fixed on earning daily income? To me, daily income earning will lead you to ponzi scheme. I have been involved in a lot of them and it always end in tears.

If I were in your shoes, I will convert all that funds to Bitcoin and make easy money after few years. Since the money is already in frypto, it is obvious you don't have urgent need if it.... so convert everything to Bitcoin and save them in a wallet you control the private keys.

This would also be my outlook. Just convert to Bitcoin and forget about it until 2025
when Bitcoin is likely but not 100% guaranteed to reach a new ATH after the halving
which is next year.

There isnt going to be anything 100% dead certain anyway.

Something we all steer clear of is giving your $8k in Bitcoin or Ethereum to an
exchange and they will give you a percentage on it, Coinbase are offering 3.4%
on ETH....

Remember though - Not your keys, not you coins!
606  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tennis League All Thread on: November 06, 2023, 04:19:11 PM
Considering that Đoković hasn't lost to Dimitrov in more than 10 years, it was expected that he'll lift another title.
It's truly impressive how dominant he still can be aged 36.

This is his 97th title, and one of the rare records he hasn't broken yet is Connors's 109 total titles. Can he do it?

If I had to bet, I'd bet against it. But he's a mental monster, if he puts his aim to it he'll play until 45 if he has to in order to achieve it.

It will be touch and go really, he needs 13 more titles to beat that record. Going by this years performance
of 6 titles it will take him another 2 years approximately. He still have the mental strength, skills and fitness
but he needs to maintain this level and not get injured.

Yes I would probably bet against it too realy.



Currently 2 ATP tournaments in action,
Metz Paris - Top seed left in the draw is Humbert4 This is a bigger tournament than Sofia with
Bublik5 and Sonego6 competing
and
Sofia Bulgaria - Top seed is Musetti
607  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Rugby] Union / League / Super / Sixes Sevens Pro14 / Cups & Tours / Olympics on: November 06, 2023, 09:19:07 AM
In some cases the "Video ref" isnt even on the grounds! they can operate remotely and
still be in contact with the on field ref!



Rugby Union - URC

Round 3 kicks off on Friday with Glasgow Warriors at home to the visitors DHL Stormers,
tough 3rd match for the Warriors IMO but they are favourites @ 1.37, Stormers are 3.0,
I wonder if they have a full strength team after SA winning the RWC? Thats a tempting bet
to go with the Stormers @ 3.0

Connacht play home rivals Ulster on Saturday. Connacht at home are slight favourites
at 1.75.

The other 2 Irish sides, Leinster and Munster are massive favourites ao no point doing an
ML on them.

From the weekends round 3 of the URC it looks like the South African trams are suffering
from the loss of key players from the RWC. Stormers, Sharks and Lions all lost but it was
only the Bulls which beat Zebre.

I watched the Connacht v Ulster match which was a very close affair with Connacht winning
by 2 points.

The 2 stand out matches for me over the weekend was the Ospreys beating the Sharks
19 - 5 and Benetton beating the Lions 15 - 10, I dont know what the odds were beforehand though?
608  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tennis League All Thread on: November 05, 2023, 08:59:36 PM

SNIP

Todays semi finals are:

Dimitrov v Tsitsipas - I wouldnt bet on this one, Dimitrov could well beat Tsitsipas
but also Tsitsipas could actually make it to the final.

Djokovic v Rublev - I cant see Djokovic losing this and either playing Tsitsipas or Dimitrov
in the final will mean he will beat either of the two.

Wow they were some semifinal matches, both went to 3 sets each and both had tie breakers.
As I kind of suspected Dimitrov beat Tsitsipas or maybe its more that Tsitsipas lost the match?
For a top player who has have some many great things written about him he isnt really delivering.
Anyway Dimitrov is really performing well this year and is in the final against Djokovic who had
a tough match yesterday against Rublev 5-7, 77-63, 7-5

The odds for today are not outragous: Djokovic 1.31 - 3.5 Dimitrov

Is it worth a bet on Dimitrov? maybe under 24.5 @ 1.64...

Yeah, Djokovic v Rublev was one hell of a match. Watched it yesterday, the level of both players was extremely high, some serve returns by Djokovic were out of this world...

On a not so positive note, my combo bet yesterday didn't work because of some undisclosed Greek player  Grin

Meanwhile in Cancun, semifinals of WTA Finals tournament went on. Jessica Pegula breezed past compatriot Gauff 6:2, 6:1. Second semifinal Swiatek-Sabalenka was suspended at 2:1 in favor of Swiatek.

A few of us here have stopped betting on Tsitsipas, ge has become somewhat unpredictable.

The odds for today are not outragous: Djokovic 1.31 - 3.5 Dimitrov

Is it worth a bet on Dimitrov? maybe under 24.5 @ 1.64...

They were the same on Rune the other day - and that bet made sense to me.
Đoković is 11-1 against Dimitrov, and hasn't lost against him since 2013.

I'm not saying he can't win - but I'd need odds at around 6 to have a go at it.

Ah it was a win for Djokovic anyway in two sets, handy enough and if I had done the
under bet it would have won. Djokovic way too strong in the end and Dimitrov was
very emotional, he has been playing great lately and obviously had himself pumped
up that he was going to win today....
609  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: WHAT'S SPECIAL ABOUT THE UPCOMING BITCOIN HALVING 2024 on: November 05, 2023, 08:46:13 AM
the ETF applications shows that big institutional FIAT companies have interest in bitcoin for the next 40 years (most pension plans think that far ahead)
these institutions also have sister companies that are investing in ASIC mining hardware. so they they also see passed the volatile period of the 2024 halving and 2025 ATH cycle (asic farmers plan and invest 2 years+ ahead)

governments do not create laws for quick viral trends. they set laws for things that will be affecting a certain amount of citizens for years

..
in short everyone can see bitcoin economics is progressing in years to come, not settling down

I Agree, the ETF particularly the Blackrock Spot Bitcoin ETF if passed will be a megalith in terms
of Bitcoin investment. If it gets approved it will be for the long term. I think everyone knows even
the SEC that Bitcoin cannot be stopped and there is a massive pent up demand from Institutional
investors to buy Bitcoin.

So this IMO is the no.1 "special" topic ahead of the halving because there is talk that there is a 90%
chance it will be approved by February 2024 I forget where I read that - apologies

Also this will be the first halving since El Salvador decided to go "Full Bitcoin" there will be a lot of hype
aroun that when their value skyrockets with the 2025 ATH cycle.

610  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tennis League All Thread on: November 05, 2023, 08:31:04 AM

SNIP

Todays semi finals are:

Dimitrov v Tsitsipas - I wouldnt bet on this one, Dimitrov could well beat Tsitsipas
but also Tsitsipas could actually make it to the final.

Djokovic v Rublev - I cant see Djokovic losing this and either playing Tsitsipas or Dimitrov
in the final will mean he will beat either of the two.

Wow they were some semifinal matches, both went to 3 sets each and both had tie breakers.
As I kind of suspected Dimitrov beat Tsitsipas or maybe its more that Tsitsipas lost the match?
For a top player who has have some many great things written about him he isnt really delivering.
Anyway Dimitrov is really performing well this year and is in the final against Djokovic who had
a tough match yesterday against Rublev 5-7, 77-63, 7-5

The odds for today are not outragous: Djokovic 1.31 - 3.5 Dimitrov

Is it worth a bet on Dimitrov? maybe under 24.5 @ 1.64...
611  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Send hospital ships to Gaza on: November 04, 2023, 08:20:59 AM
Israel is never going to allow this, sadly. And the U.S. along with much of the west are turning a blind eye to brazen genocide. Israel is an occupying force for Gaza, having boxed in all of its civilians, controlling everything that goes in and out. They even control the maritime border Gaza has, effectively treating it as theirs. Gaza could surely use a ship hospital, but when Israel is bombing hospitals and refugee camps in the ground, I doubt they'd clear a ship for docking to gaza, hospital ship or anything...

It's a very dire situation sadly. What should happen is that there should be a ceasefire with immediate effect. But instead Israel keeps pounding Palestinian civilians with bombs.

Thats it really. The world in general is turning a blind eye on what is happening in Gaza,
it always has, otherwise we wouldnt be having this conversation.

Israel would be too skeptical of Hospital Ships entering the area to provide medical aid.

Also consider the logistics of getting the injured from Gaza to the ships while
Israel is bombing the area.
612  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tennis League All Thread on: November 04, 2023, 08:10:53 AM
~snip~
Mackenzie McDonald managed to win the match by scoring points in the second and third sets quite absolutely, even though in the first set he lost to Jeffrey John Wolf without any heated competition, but in the next set Mackenzie McDonald really looked aggressive.
I thought Mackenzie McDonald would lose this match but it turned out that that assumption was wrong and he proved that losing in the first set was just gift for Jeffrey John Wolf because after that there was no mercy for him.

Tomorrow Mackenzie McDonald will compete against Jannik Sinner who is one of the great young tennis players who has even been ranked as one of the top 8 players in the ATP.
From this match it looks like Mackenzie McDonald will experience difficulties.

Even though Jannik Sinner is the seed in this match, it is also possible that he will lose because there are quite a lot of cases where the seeded player actually loses to player ranked below him.

IMO I dont think Sinner is going to lose today, I think he is mentally strong ATM because
he is performing well and getting the results, he is up to world ranking #4.

The odds for today are Sinner 1.08 - 7.0 McDonald



The interesting match of the day is Tsitsipas v Felix AA the odds are even enough because
of Felix' tournament win at Basel.


Jannik Sinner greatness is no longer in doubt and he won the match but only by very narrow point difference in three sets of games.
It true that now he has risen in rank and is in 4th place all of this achievement is thanks to his hard work who always tries to win every match.

Previously, I said that it was possible that Jannik Sinner would lose because in previous cases several top tennis players actually lost to players who were still far below him.
And in every sporting event there will be surprises, I think you can understand what I am saying.

Tsitsipas won the match and so far Tsitsipas can still be relied on as a favorite.

I can understand what you say about top players losing to lower ranked players but
on this recent case Sinner technically wasnt beaten, he forfeit the match to de Minaur.

Todays semi finals are:

Dimitrov v Tsitsipas - I wouldnt bet on this one, Dimitrov could well beat Tsitsipas
but also Tsitsipas could actually make it to the final.

Djokovic v Rublev - I cant see Djokovic losing this and either playing Tsitsipas or Dimitrov
in the final will mean he will beat either of the two.
613  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Would you rather make your investments in FAIT or CRYPTO? on: November 03, 2023, 08:58:57 PM
The crypto market has an high level of volatility, anyone who is about to make an investment need to have a good understanding of the volatile market. Now the question is even with the volatility will you still choose crypto over fiat when it comes to making investments?

If by crypto you mean Bitcoin then YES but if you mean altcoins then NO. I'll rather stick with fiats as they have more security then altcoins. Atleast I know my investment (with fiats) won't just vanish one day. You can be rich in altcoins this very moment and the next thing you know, you're broke again due to the project founder performing an exit scam on we (the investors) or the market crashing and the project loses all the hype and momentum that the price can't recover again. Altcoin Investment aren't recommended as they're pure gamble and not investments.

On the other hand my investment will be preferred in Bitcoin than fiats because fiats investment get devalued over time that even when you make profits, you are still at lost due to the inflation of your local fiats. My country currency (Naira) is one of the worst out there that it's nightmare investing with it. As you're investing in Bitcoin, you don't need to bother about the volatile nature of the market as it doesn't concern you, you aren't trading so you have nothing to do with the market until you have gotten to your investment target and you need to exit the market then you sell.

Irrespective of the direction that the market takes, when you don't sell, you don't lose so just keep holding through all the volatility and you'll be fine at the end.

I agree with all the points made by Brainboss, we have to separate Bitcoin from Crypto,
technically Bitcoin is the original "Cryptocurrency" but crypto has become a general
term for $hitcoins. Investments can be crypto, FIAT or Bitcoin.

Bitcoin trumps both of the other options. $hitcoins are wildly unpredictable and FIAT
is in a constant state of devaluation.

If anyone is concerned about the "volatility" of Bitcoin they are too short sighted, you need
to have a long term outlook and volatility will disappear.
614  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Rugby] Union / League / Super / Sixes Sevens Pro14 / Cups & Tours / Olympics on: November 03, 2023, 06:55:24 PM
Excellent, thanks Timelord.

Here are the 8 destinations and timetable the 2023/2024 tournament will be played over
for both the mens and womens sides. I really want to try and follow this series this year,
last season I was really playing catch up with it.


1.) Dubai, UAE – 2nd - 3rd of December, 2023
2.) Cape Town, RSA – 9th - 10th of December, 2023
3.)Perth, Australia – 26th - 28th of January, 2024
4.) Vancouver, Canada – 23rd - 25th of February, 2024
5.) Los Angeles, USA – 2nd - 3rd of March, 2024
6.) Hong Kong, China – 5th - 7th of April 2024
7.) Singapore – 3rd - 5th of May 2024
8.) Madrid, Spain – 31st May - 2nd of June, 2024 - the final and relegation play offs will be
held on this day.
615  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tennis League All Thread on: November 03, 2023, 05:25:36 PM
lots of news today in Italian newspapers reporting Sinner's retirement from Paris.
 there is no doubt that this game schedule can clearly disadvantage some players, but it seems that ATP has no intention of doing anything about it...

Yea there is a lot of talk about the scheduling of the matches and the fact that Sinner v
McDonald had to play so late.

TBH Sinner is probably my favourite player ATM but is withdrawal of the match with de Minaur
is a bit sour. As McDonald said he would have loved to play against de Minaur himself and
it was late for both players.
616  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [Discussion] Economic Ninja | XRP Army Coin on: November 02, 2023, 11:57:15 PM
XRP wont get any interest on this board, its the opposite of Bitcoin and can be lumped into
the same group as Bitcoin SV.
617  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin ETFs and the 401(k) Dilemma on: November 02, 2023, 07:10:03 PM
@Lucius (and everyone else)

618  Economy / Speculation / Re: BTC Sentiment Poll for November on: November 02, 2023, 02:24:43 PM
Yea I'm not getting into numbers but I voted for the Bull too!

I'm basing this purely on the 6 month window before the halving and thats what November is.
There has always been a Bull run leading up to the halving and I cant see it not happening again,
ATM with the buzz about a spot ETF floating about its a time of positivity eventhough we dont
know the outcome of any ETF.


619  Economy / Speculation / Re: Buying at 35k? on: November 02, 2023, 02:20:28 PM
When buying Bitcoin you really need to have at least a medium term outlook if its purely
return of investment you are after.

As per the OP buying at $31k and rejoicing at $35k that there is profit, give it another 2
weeks and the OP could very well be crying.

If you have a long term outlook $31k > $35k > $29k is nothing.

Buying at $35k - why not, again in the long term it will be a distant memory and we will
be ruing the day we didnt buy more at $35k

Buy and Relax!!
620  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin ETFs and the 401(k) Dilemma on: November 02, 2023, 02:02:24 PM
YOLO season has already passed, now you must wait until the price drops back down below $30K before you take risks with large amount of savings, since your investment will most likely be underwater until at least 2025.
~snip~

Do you think that the price of BTC will not at least double by the end of 2024 considering the halving and the possible approval of the spot BTC ETF in the US? The difference between $30k and $35k is not that big, and even if someone has to wait until the end of 2025 to make a significant profit, I think that a little more than 2 years is not too long even for those who are less patient.

Of course, I still think that such an investment is a risky move considering where the money for it comes from.

exactly, even at $35k where else could you double that in 2 years? - nowhere.



In my country most people avail of a "State Pension" but cannot access it until
aged 67. Others have private pensions and these are designed to be paid into
for a long time to avail of when you are elderly.

"Investing" in Bitcoin can be as short as 4 years in order to make a good profit.

Personally I wouldnt invest in an ETF when I can just buy Bitcoin directly myself.

I dont have any FIAT based investments other than my property. FIAT is devaluing,
why would I squirrel away funds regularly into FIAT?
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