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841  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 22, 2018, 02:26:00 AM
What is bitcoin

A  purely   "peer-to-peer"   version   of   "electronic   cash"   allowing   "online   payments"   to   be   sent   "directly   from   one   party   to   another"   without   going   through   a   financial    institution.  


that's it!!!

make of it what you will

its all up to you

 
842  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 21, 2018, 10:58:42 PM
Even a small topic like why there is an NRA backed ban on research into gun violence would take a long time to do properly, even though on its face it’s a ridiculous law.  What is more anti-science than banning research ?

All over human history being forcefully disarmed was a synonym of being a slave or a prisoner. Maybe "research" that.

Australia had all their guns confiscated 25 years ago.  They haven’t had a mass shooting since.  And they don’t look like slaves.
As we recently went over, jobs are slavery. Comrade.

Now I’m confused.  Is going on food stamps to avoid slavery a good thing or a bad thing?
If you have to rely on others to survive, you are a slave. So, n/a. People on food stamps are already slaves.

GL with bing your own island. Freedom as total, absolute autonomy. Never understood how a human being could really believe that. It's going out of fad that idea btw, it's more of an 80's-90's thing.
I literally have enough money to never have to work again. As do quite a number of other people here. What do you even think you are trying to say?
That’s only because others want to pay for your bitcoins.  Without those others you don’t have anything.


Australian Law

Mandatory Voting
Mandatory Education - until 17
Mandatory Vaccines
Mandatory Cash reporting
Mandatory reporting of all transactions over $10000


I think I will leave the slaves alone now

one more - one of the most over regulated countries in the world




843  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 21, 2018, 09:09:07 PM
In order to have a proper structured conversation about climate change or 9-11 or Sandy Hook or the Florida shooting is gonna take hours.  Sorry dude I don’t have hours right now.  

Even a small topic like why there is an NRA backed ban on research into gun violence would take a long time to do properly, even though on its face it’s a ridiculous law.  

They are all ridiculous laws and events invented to create division (over regulate the population and create so much change that they give up and go with the narrative )


dismiss it all and make your own mind up on how it goes

don't let fake ass scientists, doctors, politicians, professors, geniuses tell it how it is.



what would you do if all you had was the environment to survive (like we did for 10's of thousands of years)

SURVIVE!!!

regardless of the environment you are in


learn to SURVIVE!!!



every job is fake except

food/water, shelter, health and education

if we are to survive we must focus on the right jobs.....(idealist sentiment should shoot myself in the head)


844  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 21, 2018, 08:57:46 PM
so we now play spot the fake news
It's the commies. It's always the commies.

Which also means that the right tells the truth in proportion to how often the left lies. There are exceptions in both camps. CHOOSE WISELY.

The thing is, the alt-right is so full of the most ridiculous mind blowing bullshit on the simplest of subjects, but expects their scientific analysis of climate change to be taken seriously.  They are such a pack of idiots all you can do is laugh.

there is a simple answer to climate change

Why keep cutting trees down and pollute more water _ the things that create air

Oh you cannot tax that so - carbon emission schemes to protect the climate

may well be climate change but they not doing nothing about it

even JFK spoke about climate change and still they do nothing about it


thus what spreads conspiracy theories - because something is hidden


845  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 21, 2018, 08:47:46 PM
Never heard of the Mike guy.  

Latest news is that The_Donald and 4Chan have proven that the Florida shooting was a false flag operation by the US government.  Which is really confusing because why would Donald Trump run a false flag operation?  The only reasonable explanation is that the Repitilians have gotten past the Secret Service.  

The_Donald and 4Chan (they referring to US deep state government - Corrupt DOJ/FBI/CIA operatives in cooperation with corrupt special agents from all secret services around the world. FOX is talking about the US deep state government openly)

Learn more at #Qanon

alt right goin full deep cover, exposing a lot more than false flags

time will tell how true it is


846  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 21, 2018, 08:43:32 PM
I wonder what proportion of the alt-right thinks the earth is flat.  10%?  30%? 75%?

0%, the alt right does not deny science, leftists on the other hand seem to have a hard time with the concept of per capita lol, racial differences in IQ, genetic clusters etc.  Cool



Gay frogs guy scientifically proved that Hillary Clinton is a Reptilian shape shifter.  How do you guys sleep at night knowing that Donald Trump might actually be Hillary Clinton in shape shift form?  

Lol you're confusing the Mike Cernovich and alex jones type with the alt right, so gullible.


luv this alt right, alt left stuff

CNN - Russia colluded with Trump

FOX - Russia colluded with Hillary and Obama

someone's lying

so we now play spot the fake news



narrative looks likes the alt left are capitulating and asking everyone to at least agree Russia meddled in elections with wait for it - Social Media and protests

Why are they not asking for impeachment?

847  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 21, 2018, 08:35:11 PM
General profit taking, fear leaving the market (sellers) , some fud

Looks like part correction, part manipulation



first full correction looks about $9000 USD

Media still mostly positive on bitcoin, again some fud

Whales if risky could retest $8000USD

any bad news you looking $6000 retest



need to test bottom (buyers) first $10000?Huh, then if good news next stop $12000 plus


probability sideways until mid march - between $7000 - $10000
848  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 21, 2018, 08:15:59 PM
I wonder what proportion of the alt-right thinks the earth is flat.  10%?  30%? 75%?

alt-right

a media induced fantasy linking conservative thinkers to white supremacy, Nazism, conspiracy theories and russians

I think I will take the flat earthers, I would even believe the earth is flat just to oppose the media
849  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: When will banks start a war against bitcoin on: February 21, 2018, 06:46:14 PM
I know we are still at a start of cryptocurrencies, but bitcoin is growing with lightning speed right now and some banks already see it as a potential threat.
There has been a lot of accusations form banks, that bitcoin is perfect for money laundering and is used for supporting crime.
I think they can do a lot of harm to bitcoin market and they will eventually start with harsh campaign against it.
Do you think it will happen and when?
I think now banks are starting to fight bitcoin in a subtle way so as not to be seen by investors. They lobbied with government to create policies that curb the spread and use of bitcoin.
But it has not been able to make the bitcoin unstoppable from circulation and make people avoid bitcoin.
- I feel that the bank has no war with bitcoin, more precisely, the bank does not care about the impact of bitcoin because bitcoin only affects the economy of the country, the worry is the government, not the bank. People still trust and send money to the bank, with bitcoin, it's just a place to invest, and it is too volatile, the bitcoin community in the world is still too small, people do not trust completely, put all money into Bitcoin is always an option too dangerous, it can not secure as bank

"it can not secure as bank"

tell that to the Americans who had to pay their taxes to bail out banks which went bankrupt in 2008.

next year, someone did not like it so much, that they invented bitcoin


850  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: When will banks start a war against bitcoin on: February 21, 2018, 11:49:30 AM
It's already happening. Just the other day it was revealed that a Polish bank was paying YouTubers to make critical videos about cryptocurrency.

https://cointelegraph.com/news/polish-central-bank-secretly-funds-anti-crypto-youtube-propaganda-videos



while you obtain your crypto and help support the community to grow

these banks and governments are affecting the price resulting in fear, anxiety, suicide, death

who is the real enemy of the people?

851  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: When will banks start a war against bitcoin on: February 21, 2018, 09:20:50 AM
The war has already begun. Here in my country, if the bank detected that your money is from bitcoins, they will freeze your account and you wont be able to get your money back. That's why I dont use banks to get my earnings.
What country you are in? Here in my country we are allowed to encash my money through banks. There are just times that banks are having an error transaction but they will still refund our money or bitcoin. There is also a lot of transaction we can use here, so I have a lot of option if there is an error through bank.

Nope no war on bitcoin

https://www.express.co.uk/finance/city/906189/Bitcoin-price-latest-value-crashing-stock-EU-European-Union

jan 18th

who do you think donates to the policy makers


shame about brexit if i may assume - 2 years and still the banks got you hostage
852  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: When will banks start a war against bitcoin on: February 21, 2018, 12:32:36 AM
Let's not hope that war between banks and bitcoin would start anytime soon. We all know that banks is acknowledged by corrupt governments unlike bitcoin. It will be a long process before bitcoin can be legalized free to use in several countries unlike banks who are essential part allowed to print free money and increase interest rates of every countries' economy.

fixed it


Let's not hope that war between banks and bitcoin would start anytime soon. We all know that banks is acknowledged by corrupt governments unlike bitcoin. It will be a long process before bitcoin can be legalized free to use in several countries unlike banks who are essential part allowed to print free money and increase interest rates of every countries' economy.

853  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: When will banks start a war against bitcoin on: February 20, 2018, 10:21:35 PM
I believe it will happen why? Some goverment in other countries they have study now how to given a tax and control this cryptocurrency because if you sell a bitcoin i. A high amount they will give you a tax. So the goverment now is studying this particular situation. It will happen because in thier side people need to pay a tax. Which is so unfair.


waiting for the new law that will somehow tax, regulate or criminalize peer to peer buying

tried it with
music sharing
file sharing
encryption


anything peer to peer

watch them attack it



we all welcome the new peer to peer king

Bitcoin



854  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: When will banks start a war against bitcoin on: February 20, 2018, 08:47:13 PM
Banks will get used to bitcoin and they will partnership with bitcoin if they want to survive in the future when bitcoin will be huge

true but only after the more likely scenario of the banks collapsing (bankrupt, no more bail ins, no more tax break, no more national debt) and be replaced by gold/silver backed currency with cryptocurrency used as the medium for transactions

855  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: When will banks start a war against bitcoin on: February 20, 2018, 08:31:52 PM
The war is fully underway

First was the bad media
Next was blocksize debate
Next the code coup - segwit, blockstream
Then the laws
Then the bans

(about this time they stole bitcoin by raiding BTC-E, corrupt ex ceo was arrested and the exchange blamed for money laundering)

Then the forks (Bcash, Bitcoingold) - confuse newbies as to what is the real bitcoin
More bad media
The credit/debit card bans
Bring the big boys out - BIS, IMF, any banker/trader to slam bitcoin


Battles to come
attack the lightning network
attack the exchanges (no real bitcoin on exchange, money laundering, corrupt, bankrupt)
More laws and bans
Media - criminality around crypto
Create competing crypto IMF/BIS global crypto coin - https://www.acchain.org/en/ (putting your assets on the blockchain)

and the war continues


reading half these comments shows how blind a lot of people are to what is actually going on

http://uk.businessinsider.com/cryptocurrency-south-korean-official-in-charge-of-crackdown-found-dead-2018-2/?r=AU&IR=T

and the war continues


 
A reminder banks, stock exchanges financial industry are all developing block chain technology and have been doing it for about 2 years now
Of course they want you to use their coin

ASX digital hyperledger

R3 consortium is an enterprise software firm working with over 100 banks, financial institutions, regulators, trade associations, professional services firms and technology companies to develop Corda, our distributed ledger platform designed specifically for financial services

IMF/BIS creating acchain
https://steemit.com/money/@sgtreport/breaking-bankers-new-sdr-crypto-blockchain-will-enslave-humanity-lynette-zang

UBS
https://www.ubs.com/microsites/blockchain-report/en/home.html
How the blockchain could transform finance (and the world)
We at UBS have become very interested in the blockchain and its potential. In March 2015 we launched the Crypto 2.0 Pathfinder Program


856  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 19, 2018, 10:42:05 PM
Shares on a public blockchain are going to be a thing. Real shares.  Like Apple and Amazon and even Berkshire Hathaway.  Not this pretend kindergarten shit we have had so far.

But Bitcoin needs a way to record and transfer these shares.  Like colored coins.

I donno, a lot of legislation would need to change for that happen. Maybe I could envision one blockchain controlled by notaries where they would register property transfers... but not a P2P real estate blockchain with no authrorized third party involvement needed.

companies will make their own coin and shares will be tied to this
857  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: When will banks start a war against bitcoin on: February 19, 2018, 09:12:27 PM
The war is fully underway

First was the bad media
Next was blocksize debate
Next the code coup - segwit, blockstream
Then the laws
Then the bans

(about this time they stole bitcoin by raiding BTC-E, corrupt ex ceo was arrested and the exchange blamed for money laundering)

Then the forks (Bcash, Bitcoingold) - confuse newbies as to what is the real bitcoin
More bad media
The credit/debit card bans
Bring the big boys out - BIS, IMF, any banker/trader to slam bitcoin


Battles to come
attack the lightning network
attack the exchanges (no real bitcoin on exchange, money laundering, corrupt, bankrupt)
More laws and bans
Media - criminality around crypto
Create competing crypto IMF/BIS global crypto coin - https://www.acchain.org/en/ (putting your assets on the blockchain)



and the war continues


858  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action on: February 19, 2018, 08:59:12 AM
. FROM SYSCAT.VIEWS Views ; Any better offers would be appreciated. Regards Paul Vernon Business Intelligence, IBM Global Services. Nov 12 '05.

https://au.linkedin.com/in/paul-vernon-1590461

again no insinuation intended


That's not Crypto Paul Vernon.

This is the scheming, cheating, felonious thief, Perv Vern:



yes, it was obvious to see straight away.

just weird what you find is all

859  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 17, 2018, 11:18:03 PM
inb4 MSM 'The bitcoin bubble is back'
~
(volume is too low) Huh

http://metro.co.uk/2018/02/15/bitcoin-price-nears-10000-litecoin-ripple-ethereum-cryptocurrency-comeback-7315342/

https://www.rt.com/business/418907-litecoin-lead-crypto-market-recovery/

http://www.news.com.au/finance/money/investing/crypto-comeback-bitcoin-back-above-us10000/news-story/5a98eb8971092f4b129f43fcd5926203



fud disappears , to return at a time of great profit taking
860  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 16, 2018, 11:15:58 PM
In terms of awareness it is probably 1998 but adoption wise it is probably around 1995 with just the university kids on the Net. Cool colleagues have just started trading crypto but the rest is still ignoring it. Some probably will the rest of their lives  Grin

It makes sense. Almost everybody has already heard of Bitcoin the same as Internet in 95-97. But way less than 1% got/use, so it is 93-95 in that.

Also in terms of development it is like when we only had telnet, ftp, email and irc (I always considered gopher useless).... and everything was command line/shell only.

It was the development of HTPP what transformed it into something "ready" for mainstream people.

I think we still lack that "http" of Bitcoin... but LN is surely a step in the right direction.

And it was major players like AOL what helped in its adoption... I am not sure Bitcoin already have its "AOL" or if we could consider Coinbase to be the equivalent.


I thought that bitcoin is the HTTP.. and everything get's built upon bitcoin.. no?

No. HTTP is a higher layer (lower than HTML though). Bitcoin/Blockchain is more like TCP/IP (it's just an analogy).

Higher layers are the next step towards user ergonomy. We need more of those in which blockchain would be just an underlaying transparent lower level layer.... and "Bitcoin" will be *ALL* that.

Maybe even some additional layers in which BTC is converted to "stable" DIGITAL fiat via sidechain atomic swaps.


yeah i like that

IP = Blockchain

replace the IP addresses with encrypted blockchain addresses

decentralize the ip layer - web 3.0 is here

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