Ech in every country to run some financial fund you need license

And you give also answer to your question:

" SMA in that regard that the scope kriptovalut and other instruments issued on the basis of the technology data blocks in Slovenia and at the level of the European Union is not legally regulated and controlled. Therefore, neither the company nor the cash OOD so platform ICONOMI at the moment not regulated nor supervised by the FMA."

If they start any fund fueled by BTC / ETH they have 0 problems with legislation.
So even I can start such fund now.

Add to that they will get fiat money convert them by cashila to BTC/ETH and invest then they have fund operating with fiat indirectly.
To be honest i have been reading today how tax my BTC income... I have got headake with it.

To work over EU law and have 0 problems they can just buy BTC/ETH and then invest that without any problems.

Even with legistation they can go for licence and hire broker to manage fund What a problem here ?
But since most alts is trading in BTC pairs not fiat... This is just shooting itself in knee IMO.

Sticking in BTC/ETH based investments is much easier / cheaper and saves a lot of time.
In longer run they will apply for all those licenses ^^ but for beginning this is not necessary.
Paper work is hell in EU.
But as you see till they will play with BTC/ETH there is 0 problems and that is enough to start platforms.
I live in EU and I would put BTC/ETH investments over Fiat ^^ because of common sense reasons like privacy.

PS: After seeing what Bank of China is doing their exchanges ^^ I would suggest that ICONOMI should split platform into 2 version like crypto and Fiat related. So Bank/Government will only lock Fiat side of system while BTC/ETH will go smooth without any interruption

I was thinking about getting on List but now I see that here we have 3% infliation and in long run there is no space for rise.
All works are in early stages this is about year from now.
If BTC ETF goes online Lisk price will plumb if not it can bounce a bit but there will be low attention to it and chances that it will rise with others are small.
Most rise with next BTC PnD wave have coins actually that providing some stuff alredy.
Dash,XMR - anon
Eth - dapps
LTC - maybe progress in blockchain technology lighting network / segwit
NEM - working POI system with 1000+ tx/s // sidechain technology
MaidSafeCoin - decentralized internet
Lisk, Waves are close projects in terms on rise potential , and developing phase.
Bitshares shows that DPoS in not revolution that moves masses into it.
My last DPoS picks were disasters.
I need think about Lisk 2x

Osobiście nie dostałem.
Używałęm bitcurex / bitmarket24.
Kwoty rzędu 1000zł-2000zł głównie aby kupić.
raz na Bitmarket sprzedałem za 3200zł.
Bilans u mnie był mniej wiecej na 0 zł.

Jakiego rzędu kworty chodzi u Ciebie ?
Aby nie siać postrachu na forum.


Jeśli chodzi o dokumenty to wyciąg z konta pewnie ile wpłaciłeś i wypłaciłeś.
Jeśli dużo wiecej wypłacałeś nicz w płaciłeś to możesz mieć problem.
W banku można filtrować transakcje zależy jaki masz interfejs.

PS: Jak ktoś chce jakąś praktyczną poradę jak wypłacać BTC to priv.

Mamy nowe ciekwe sygnaturki warte rozwazenia i kilka innych promocji na facebook i twitter.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1775766.180
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1773367.0

Startują w podobnych terminach można ogarnąc co i jak.
Jak zawsze może wpaść coś BTC albo fajne udzialy za promocje.

W investowaniu teraz bym radził sie rozejzec za altami nie napompowanymi jeszcze i się załadować, bo BTC wiecznie do góry lecieć nie bedzie
a nafali BTC polecą do góry rózne alty. Z doświadzczenia odradzam top 10.
Pozycje 10-30 z dobrą perspektywą będą bardziej lukratywne.
Np Lisk jest poniżej ceny ICO w tym momencie.
ICO aby ruszyło potrzebuje czasu na developing.
Więc warto się zastanowić w co grać a nie gonić sie na falach.

1) Never show your cards they should just buy in deep. Make dumpers cry rivers

Don't worry they will go with such stuff sooner or later when they will release platforms ^^.

Probably price got down becouse team is lagging with delivering so far.
And BTC is going UP.
We will value that delay was due to higher quality product in future.
If product will be good price will recover instantly don't worry.
If they deliver shit after 3months delay it won't be so easy.
Today many people just want exit that train now becouse of uncertain future.

PS: History shows that they are lagging but deliver - that is my final conclusion.

yea but as you see they are working at complex solutions right now.
Making ICNX is not just for that low liquidity stuff, they are working at higher range solution.
That is why those delays happening if that would be buy me 4% that and that ICN would start already.
Delaying OFM to 2018 is not most likely happening because of that now many works are focused on that platform.
And some other rivals not sleep. I bet once they have their own stack ICN released then for sure some serious news will come.
Deals take time to be made.

Do you think that any other coin won't have problems with liquidity ?
Every decentralized exchanges are slow and have VERY low volumes.
That started with 1st Asset Exchange buld on NXT over few years history shows that is not direction we are folowing.
Centralized systems are fast and give you many trading options like eg. bots / magin.
You won't move all traded to decentralized systems you can forget about it and because of that you will have always low volume there.

No matter what you say about ICN that will hold at end 6000BTC in some good promising ICO over 2 years with good performance it can be worth 30m$ in BTC. In good performance stuff getting in crypto 5x return is not something unusual.

I believe once Devs will have their funds unlocked their will to progress will increase.

I had that feeling with Blackcoin at 500sat... NEM at 70-sat and now with ICN at ~25k-30k.
We will see in few months/year who had right.

: ) for me that is enough because BTC is on rise and then right after alts are getting mega price kick with optimized ICNX algorithms it will be good product. And i bet that ICNX fund will solar in 2017 if that would be a year like 2014 ICNX would be fail start but now ICNX have perfect start conditions.
I think that would be good to keep some cash in ICNX alt least for 6-8 months. from now.
We will see how much they will get money from "old economy" and cryptonomy.
Then we will discuss what is best. Trend in crypto is obvious up so that won't be changed over night.
Same time global currencies have hard times 0% intrest and money printing.

And add to that ICN is not just ICNX and ICNP, they just actively invest that 6000BTC from ICO.
In short time it won't be spectacular returns but in six months/year/two they will have shining days i can bet on it.

With all BTC price up is normal that alts vs BTC fall many people is cashing out.
Look how Okcoin and huobi are lagging in price ...
All world BTC 1100+ they have 1080$ And they can not move coins out of exchange to make arbitrage .

While for ICONOMI ICNX and ICNP this is win-win scenario because that will move a lot of fresh cash into alts making ICN funds very solid ^^.
When BTC price fall alts will be green again and those will have new highs.

If BTC EFT case will be postponed once again/ or refused we will have dramatic fall of BTC price. (-30% shot)
Even without drama BTC will need correction with price even with that current problems with transactions.
BTC devs need to fix some stuff.

If stuff will be good there will be players for sure ^^

Looks like some pump is coming FUDsters have been awaken.
Sadly for them few weeks and ICN is still above ICO so whole work for nothing.

but most ICO 70% was in BTC price at that time was 22000sat...
That matter because they have assets about 16-20$m behind company or even with al those investments more.
So if some are making comparison to past price it can be some kind delusion.
Effects of hard work usually rise net worth over time if ICNX and ICNP will be good funds ICONOMI will be worth much more.
In real life shares pays 0,5$ per 40$ share dividends will be most price driving factor.
If crypto trens will continue we will eat some part of ETFs cake for sure.
Lets be honest BTC is cool but curently vs alts sucks.
Yesterday it took 6h to get confirmation.
I was cashing out BTC. I was thinking about ICN but i holded thinked 2x and IMO ICN and alts are future.
BTC with all block size drama slow reaction on changes will fall  like rock in water vs other alts.
When it will loose market  cap miners with 2x what has happened.
BTC problems last from 2015y... and now in 2017 they are in same place that whole block size drama will stop BTC from evolving.
I will hold cash in alts and BTC but for me BTC today is overpriced vs alts.
At some point fundamentals like speed and limits will kick in and BTC price will fall vs alts.
And here we have ICN ready to get cash from BTC vs other alts.

I am fan of BTC but i am not blinded and I see how alts are progressing vs BTC.

If people will look on long time fundamentals they will see that change is coming .
BTC will force people to using alts - in terms of speed and costs.

So where you suggest pick coins for ICONOMI funds ? On bittalk or on real conferences with talks face to face.
I prefer when they travel to meet people whom they want put money in hand, than like me scan btt and Invest.

This will end like Decent 90% buys in 1st day and then nothing, personally i don't like such spread.
For me 15% 10% 5% don't scary people.

ICONOMI is in developing state.
So starting all with US goverment reporting is not best scenario to much moeny they would put into it with not much results now.
They focus on platform that is good not on US legal problems.
THis is JUST FUD.
Think who want be under US law today ? Even China have more freedom - irony.

Since 3 years they were non stop postponing that moment with decision to next time this time can be same, but people have short memory they see BTC ETF can be ready this time and pumpers / speculators go in they will dump all  BTC before even news release.

Then money back to alts/ICN again : ) and whole life the same.

Depends man how will that plays out that mean BTC ETF is not going on like was for 3 years.
Thye postpone once again.
China have locked BTC withdrawals now for next months that is 2 months.
BTCC china CEO have runned away to Canada ...
Up and what now ? Massive BTC dump and cash goes to alts.
And ICN is for me one of best picks close to NEM, ETH, Dash, XMR to be pumped on that alt wave. ^^

Markets sometimes can trick you ^^ with your predictions. 

Not really man people count on BTC ETF  that news if hit hard can blow up BTC price or make it fall a bit like few times before.
I don see reason why SEC will not postpone decision once more since they play ping-pong for 3 years now...
But BTC ETF news makes it viral once again ": ) even China blocking exchanges didn't stopped it.

PS: I prefer hold becouse selling now is not best way to exit.

This is not ICN FUD this is just "BTC ETF " effect and people want now out just in case price will rocket - that is my prediction what is happenig.

Just other coin agenda IMO but rather investor who want ge profit from some ICO that he invested.
More BTC in more BTC for him