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861  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Myrkul Sells AnCap... on: December 18, 2012, 07:12:08 PM
Lets start with privately funded security.

What happens when one such security provider becomes tyrannical and starts abusing people?

Fallacy: begging the question.

You make an assumption that security is only provided by privately funded security businesses and then you make a conclusion that we ancaps should now argue against. Well many ancaps may fall into this trap, but I wont. I never conceded to your assumption that private security firms would be the only way security would be provided in an ancap society. Quite the opposite, I strongly think that in an ancap society people would generally realize that ultimately they themselves bare the responsibility for their security and that means they themselves would need to find ways of providing it.

How does this change your argument? Well it changes it a lot. Originally your assumption (which I did not concede to) assumes that people have no choice, or better said no other means to protect themselves from a rouge agency that they hired to provide for their security. The truth however is much more likely that people would be highly capable of quickly dealing with such an agency and that even the threat of such a swift defense would be enough of a deterrent for such an agency to never even attempting it.


And here's a broader point you have to understand about ancap theory. We ancaps usually, if we are honest, do NOT have almost any answers as to how certain problems in such a society would get solved. Why? Because the solutions could only ever come from a market regulated strictly by consumption i.e. a free market and not any single person. Just like no person 200 years ago could have given a correct or even an answer in the right neighborhood when asked how the fields would be worked on and food produced if slavery was abolished.

But not having any answers is irrelevant. What are relevant are the foundational principles upon which a society is structured. It didn't matter that no one could have given the answer that "big metal machines with many consecutive tiny explosions of petroleum inside of them" would work the fields because all that was important was that if you want to live in a society that will offer you a good life, slavery couldn't be a principle upon which it was built.

And this will be pretty much the same answer of an honest ancap to any of your "issues" you might raise of how an ancap society might solve certain problems: "We don't know, but it's also irrelevant that we don't. Our theory is valid because of the principles not because of the solutions any one of us might be able to imagine."
862  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Bitcoin design contract on: December 18, 2012, 09:36:40 AM
Who would be the parties of the contract, for starters?

Yeah that is a problem that I don't think can be solved. Theymos, you know, while I support spelling out the rules Bitcoin adheres to so ordinary people can understand it maybe a statement displayed in the gui and being called a contract isn't such a good idea after all. How about instead we ask the devs to insert a sort of a personal voucher that the code they wrote conforms to these rules. This way no one is really bound by them, there's no one who can think anyone is bound by them and devs risk their reputation if they insert a different kind of code than what their plain spoken english voucher said it is.
863  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [VIDEO] Expanding the Bitcoin Business Community on: December 17, 2012, 06:30:21 PM
That right there is the best Bitcoin salesman I've seen so far. I tip my hat to you Tony, you rock.  Cool

Pay attention people to his presentation, that's how it's done if we want the general user base onboard.


(I'm going to sticky this thread, at least for a while, that's how good I think the presentation was.. if someone has a problem with that pm me please)
864  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Bitcoin design contract on: December 17, 2012, 03:12:33 PM
The contract is the code. If people vote to include a major change, then they can vote to change a contract.

While this is true and a change of this contract with consent of a part of the network can't be stopped just like a part of the network can't be stopped from not changing it, it's still computer code that not everyone can read.

How I understand theymos' suggestion is to translate the contract contained in the code into a more simple, human language that anyone can understand and I fully support it.

If it were up to me, this could be displayed under Help -> About, and the same contract could also be displayed on bitcoin.org and in any other clients the code of represents the same contract.
865  Bitcoin / Press / Re: 2012-12-12 occupycorporatism.com - Globalist Controlled Bitcoin Becomes “Bank” on: December 15, 2012, 07:34:12 PM
Why would you even link this garbage?
866  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin: Rather backing of others than a direct medium of exchange? on: December 15, 2012, 10:08:38 AM
I don't understand the OP.. Is the idea to direct what the market regulated by consumption i.e. a free market should be doing? Because if that's the case if one doesn't want to contradict themselves, they only way their idea will stick in such a market is for it to be rewarded by consumption i.e. not by making posts and asking the market to do what is asked of it.

In other words why don't you build your idea and let the market choose in stead of coming here and telling us what to do?
867  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Eric Schmidt: "I'm proud of our tax avoidance scheme...it's called capitalism" on: December 14, 2012, 09:54:33 AM
Good! The less money they get robbed for, the better!  Cool
868  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Meanwhile on Wikipedia... on: December 13, 2012, 09:44:26 PM
Well that was fun while it lasted.  Embarrassed
869  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Meanwhile on Wikipedia... on: December 13, 2012, 05:31:34 PM
I love the "no central authority" thing

Yeah me too  Grin
870  Bitcoin / Press / Re: 2012-12-13 Hackernews - news.ycombinator.com - 4chan accepts Bitcoin on: December 13, 2012, 12:52:09 PM

Congrats!  Cool
871  Bitcoin / Press / Re: 2012-12-13 The Economist - Babbage video blog on: December 13, 2012, 10:57:25 AM
Positive and somewhat accurate.  Smiley
872  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Are Bitcoin's virtual property? on: December 13, 2012, 10:36:16 AM
I would say the only way they can be really destroyed would be any coins generated during a split in the block chain would be destroyed when one of the chains gets dropped.

No. What can be destroyed, in a way, is an unspent output. Once that output is turned into an input you can't do that again, so in effect it's destroyed.
873  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker on: December 13, 2012, 02:01:30 AM
->few days->

tbh I'd be perfectly fine if this went on for a few months not just days. I don't really like these sudden spikes that are almost always followed by a big correction.
874  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Amir Taaki, Founder of Intersango, talk: "Bitcoin, a virtual currency" on: December 12, 2012, 09:35:04 PM
This is a repost, therefor I'm locking it.
875  Economy / Economics / Re: Fed to spend $45 billion a month on Treasury bonds on: December 12, 2012, 06:34:16 PM
Well you are right but so was I:

    *FED BOOSTS QE WITH $45 BILLION IN MONTHLY TREASURY PURCHASES
    *FED TO KEEP BUYING MORTGAGE BONDS AT PACE OF $40 BLN PER MONTH
    *FED SAYS MONTHLY PURCHASES TO TOTAL $85 BLN
    *FED ADOPTS ECONOMIC THRESHOLDS FOR POLICY TIGHTENING
    *FED: RATES TO STAY EXCEPTIONALLY LOW WITH JOBLESS ABOVE 6.5%
    *FED: RATES TO STAY LOW WITH INFLATION SEEN AT 2.5% OR LESS


They are doing BOTH! $40bln mortgage bonds + $45bln treasures + ZIRP until unemployment above 6.5%.  Shocked

There can't be any question in anyone's rational mind anymore where this is leading.  Roll Eyes
876  Economy / Economics / Re: Fed to spend $45 billion a month on Treasury bonds on: December 12, 2012, 06:14:06 PM
Wait, wasn't it $40bil/month a month ago?
877  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: We need better promotional videos and material!! [Brainstorming] on: December 12, 2012, 02:36:16 PM
I feel that there is currently a huge lack of useful and effective promotional / educational videos about Bitcoin.

What do you think?

I agree 110% hence why I'm working on a solution, it will be called bitcoincurve.com as in The Bitcoin Learning Curve.  Wink
878  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Are Bitcoin's virtual property? on: December 12, 2012, 12:53:07 AM
IP only 'exists' as property because everyone concerned agrees it is rather then any physical existance of the property.

Not everyone but usually mostly those who have something to gain from it and hold enough guns to be able to force their view on others. There are plenty of people like myself who think IP is hogwash.
879  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Blowing up today on Reddit - go upvote!! on: December 11, 2012, 11:13:17 PM
I'm not a fan of reddit, but the bit I read there confirms that mining should no longer be the first, second, or even eighth thing discussed when introducing people to Bitcoin.

I disagree, but instead of "Mining" it should be called "Mining i.e. transaction validation / bitcoin issuance" which I strongly think would take away almost all of the confusion.
880  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Blowing up today on Reddit - go upvote!! on: December 11, 2012, 11:01:20 PM
I can sooo feel it, we're just on the cusp of really blowing up. All it takes is a few more nudges in the form of a service that educates and a service that makes it easy to keep bitcoins safe like the hardware wallets being developed and it's going to explode.

I have never felt more optimistic about the future in my life than I do right now.  Grin
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