the majority of coins are premined
quark sucks
Quark wasn't pre-mined, which makes your second statement a bit bizarre.. maybe explain the reasons as to why? Quarkcoin wasn't pre-mined, but 98% of the coins were mined prior being released. What are you talking about? If 98% of the coins were mined prior to being released, then it was pre-mined... this is not the case. Quarkcoins were announced on this forum and when I started mining it was around block #500. so, is QRK still solo minable, or not..? yeah, if you like 16 quark block rewards and being orphaned all the time |
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Here's a more recent one... note all the clients that had to request 2 blocks, since they had the.. well.. "proper" chain, you know, the block that was actually reported first. 2013-12-04 05:00:43 received block 0000000007cb5347632a9b61b070b0b7f494ac9c56b7fcd2f4a2720b01219ee0 from xxxxxxxx (<--- this block got orphaned, from solo miner or someone w/o 90% hashrate)
2013-12-04 05:01:17 received block 0000000005569d41fa064862199eacc7d914654ced4f6668a0c8aa0a769df79a from xxxxxxxx (<--- this is the late block, from Pool X -- received it now because of the next block)
2013-12-04 05:01:17 ProcessBlock: ORPHAN BLOCK, prev=00000000060a682ab411535455da49be84204a0f7932268002c1ebf1880d7a42
2013-12-04 05:01:17 received block 00000000060a682ab411535455da49be84204a0f7932268002c1ebf1880d7a42 from xxxxxxxx (<--- this block also came from Pool X, which caused the 7cb block to be orphaned)
2013-12-04 05:01:17 REORGANIZE: Disconnect 1 blocks; 0000000007cb5347632a9b61b070b0b7f494ac9c56b7fcd2f4a2720b01219ee0..
2013-12-04 05:01:17 REORGANIZE: Connect 2 blocks; ..0000000005569d41fa064862199eacc7d914654ced4f6668a0c8aa0a769df79a
2013-12-04 05:01:17 Committing 16 changed transactions to coin database...
2013-12-04 05:01:17 SetBestChain: new best=0000000005569d41fa064862199eacc7d914654ced4f6668a0c8aa0a769df79a height=424826 log2_work=51.19364 tx=527365 date=2013-12-04 05:01:03 progress=0.999997
2013-12-04 05:01:17 ProcessBlock: ACCEPTED
2013-12-04 05:01:19 getblocks 424825 to 0000000005569d41fa064862199eacc7d914654ced4f6668a0c8aa0a769df79a limit 2000 from xxx
2013-12-04 05:01:19 getblocks 424825 to 0000000005569d41fa064862199eacc7d914654ced4f6668a0c8aa0a769df79a limit 2000 from xxx
2013-12-04 05:01:19 getblocks 424825 to 0000000005569d41fa064862199eacc7d914654ced4f6668a0c8aa0a769df79a limit 2000 from xxx
2013-12-04 05:01:19 getblocks 424825 to 0000000005569d41fa064862199eacc7d914654ced4f6668a0c8aa0a769df79a limit 2000 from xxx
2013-12-04 05:01:19 getblocks 424825 to 0000000005569d41fa064862199eacc7d914654ced4f6668a0c8aa0a769df79a limit 2000 from xxx
2013-12-04 05:01:19 getblocks 424825 to 0000000005569d41fa064862199eacc7d914654ced4f6668a0c8aa0a769df79a limit 2000 from xxx
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2013-12-04 05:01:19 getblocks 424825 to 0000000005569d41fa064862199eacc7d914654ced4f6668a0c8aa0a769df79a limit 2000 from xxx
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2013-12-04 05:01:19 getblocks 424825 to 0000000005569d41fa064862199eacc7d914654ced4f6668a0c8aa0a769df79a limit 2000 from xxx
2013-12-04 05:01:19 getblocks 424825 to 0000000005569d41fa064862199eacc7d914654ced4f6668a0c8aa0a769df79a limit 2000 from xxx
2013-12-04 05:01:19 getblocks 424825 to 0000000005569d41fa064862199eacc7d914654ced4f6668a0c8aa0a769df79a limit 2000 from xxx
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2013-12-04 05:01:19 getblocks 424825 to 0000000005569d41fa064862199eacc7d914654ced4f6668a0c8aa0a769df79a limit 2000 from xxx
2013-12-04 05:01:19 getblocks 424825 to 0000000005569d41fa064862199eacc7d914654ced4f6668a0c8aa0a769df79a limit 2000 from xxx
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2013-12-04 05:01:19 getblocks 424825 to 0000000005569d41fa064862199eacc7d914654ced4f6668a0c8aa0a769df79a limit 2000 from xxx
2013-12-04 05:01:19 getblocks 424825 to 0000000005569d41fa064862199eacc7d914654ced4f6668a0c8aa0a769df79a limit 2000 from xxx
2013-12-04 05:01:19 getblocks 424825 to 0000000005569d41fa064862199eacc7d914654ced4f6668a0c8aa0a769df79a limit 2000 from xxx
2013-12-04 05:01:19 getblocks 424825 to 0000000005569d41fa064862199eacc7d914654ced4f6668a0c8aa0a769df79a limit 2000 from xxx
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2013-12-04 05:01:19 getblocks 424825 to 0000000005569d41fa064862199eacc7d914654ced4f6668a0c8aa0a769df79a limit 2000 from xxx
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2013-12-04 05:01:20 getblocks 424825 to 0000000005569d41fa064862199eacc7d914654ced4f6668a0c8aa0a769df79a limit 2000 from xxx People that have no clue about the # of orphans should really stop commenting, haha. |
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Just a couple questions...
1) with a target block interval of only 30 seconds, aren't block orphaned at a high rate?
2) how can cpu mining be guaranteed?
3) what is the advantage that Quark has that those in this thread consider to be deficient in Bitcoin?
Seriously, I don't understand the attraction.
1) at the beginning that was a problem, now not anymore. Okay, how was this problem solved? well, as I said earlier, it wasn't & I could prove it with log files showing all the orphans 2013-12-03 12:16:03 REORGANIZE: Disconnect 1 blocks; 000000000d9f356edcbecb0eb41013db76fed78a01931f8870b0315d65cb6681..
2013-12-03 12:16:03 REORGANIZE: Connect 2 blocks; ..0000000000f4799e62507444a3dc8d6107f2a44083ccf7e9d727b79dc5189162
2013-12-03 12:19:34 REORGANIZE: Disconnect 1 blocks; 00000000066e58e1adc415ae550e408f79f6795466d90f77047d6dad122a1e24..
2013-12-03 12:19:34 REORGANIZE: Connect 2 blocks; ..000000000f9952fab51a5a0dcfd8d79eeb00c9a785d60a5eb1e112940b3fe48d
2013-12-03 12:33:33 REORGANIZE: Disconnect 1 blocks; 0000000002ddab59091ecf3827d11c55131ce73c21c9a5ee863b70bff76c4c99..
2013-12-03 12:33:33 REORGANIZE: Connect 2 blocks; ..000000000a3981866e606566d7bef890a783d91e0b30fb6a62546ffce27280e0
2013-12-03 12:40:10 REORGANIZE: Disconnect 1 blocks; 0000000005fef8b05f50ab4e6000ff26cf068bbc3109b0a7216da8371a27d2d4..
2013-12-03 12:40:10 REORGANIZE: Connect 2 blocks; ..00000000043c3c309d2c1ff17125eddc688920441eefc536c9dc0739e940da07
2013-12-03 13:09:16 REORGANIZE: Disconnect 1 blocks; 0000000014432a527781def9738609434ae5000fe837f8baf54bf6f201418e3c..
2013-12-03 13:09:16 REORGANIZE: Connect 2 blocks; ..000000000586fe57b60b1d0ce9bdaa8c4b1eefcaca0a4833b6619d467570f8a9
2013-12-03 13:26:35 REORGANIZE: Disconnect 1 blocks; 000000000307206c27892091e5d0de337d5e8b72b9e386a27ebf514a85f3a559..
2013-12-03 13:26:35 REORGANIZE: Connect 2 blocks; ..000000000dfa8602e21d2b5a6e8454ff63020c43320600ce4139d7e8e379f41f
2013-12-03 13:32:41 REORGANIZE: Disconnect 1 blocks; 0000000010f70e9942d0974bcfb6f3293169899fff003c532ae51fcc8f2869ce..
2013-12-03 13:32:41 REORGANIZE: Connect 2 blocks; ..0000000008a800cac3bc9abbc980b833e589fd9b3d7cc9d48ac636243d6050c0
2013-12-03 13:52:08 REORGANIZE: Disconnect 1 blocks; 0000000001416044560af130dc6eb705c93f308650460c97b4da3c433fc1d442..
2013-12-03 13:52:08 REORGANIZE: Connect 2 blocks; ..000000001026013f209ff720e9e507d014cf2687d52d301aa89e390022f2f28b there's a 90 minute snippet ed: actually, here's the rest of the day up to 12:16 2013-12-03 00:29:49 REORGANIZE: Disconnect 1 blocks; 000000000a6a20c05bfe7e2f084c1b3385e3a99acdaed3fc2d027ca65ffebdcb..
2013-12-03 00:29:49 REORGANIZE: Connect 2 blocks; ..000000000b709878dac7c827b6d4d026ffb3e90fd08c8194d3d680861f355dbf
2013-12-03 00:54:32 REORGANIZE: Disconnect 1 blocks; 000000000466c8df806588129798aa383df43f20d0a2f5443838417e58f2d61d..
2013-12-03 00:54:32 REORGANIZE: Connect 2 blocks; ..00000000146800dd1f62b9fa22a2533ea0a8c8a7a7b0b2e302dd62e8bfe54ef6
2013-12-03 01:03:42 REORGANIZE: Disconnect 1 blocks; 0000000000a1ee56b62e73afcd6887f13ee6b196141fd6f0a3fb45239b8f79a4..
2013-12-03 01:03:42 REORGANIZE: Connect 2 blocks; ..0000000001c8a3bb7c91fded324cba6328dfe093e1b0955aa868ce7ee85d7e21
2013-12-03 02:04:30 REORGANIZE: Disconnect 1 blocks; 00000000035a9cc1b427879e0e15e5af6c0690d8aad6977a629060f2436c7c55..
2013-12-03 02:04:30 REORGANIZE: Connect 2 blocks; ..0000000008d1c0b3d27b26e30fe61755960126c74724829ab5d04488bdb8dde3
2013-12-03 02:50:30 REORGANIZE: Disconnect 1 blocks; 0000000000e5616d4795dcfb644cf9c5fbd760719ca4b28cfe700bd0bff747e9..
2013-12-03 02:50:30 REORGANIZE: Connect 2 blocks; ..0000000003e622d92a6214dbf3d2e7b39d56c1441e4849a283c7e610506dafe8
2013-12-03 03:44:16 REORGANIZE: Disconnect 1 blocks; 000000000e3656b65bed4932f158036d88ec4c64a10be43fa4a943b7dd190a3c..
2013-12-03 03:44:16 REORGANIZE: Connect 2 blocks; ..000000000d33be95f49a0cd7ad830b1155685ae5e165ca2a07a1d1a24081d6bf
2013-12-03 03:57:42 REORGANIZE: Disconnect 1 blocks; 0000000007cc1e6c786fc1decbfc81422761e8ab839f54e910764fab15902e5f..
2013-12-03 03:57:42 REORGANIZE: Connect 2 blocks; ..0000000017aa93464c04a13dc5e58512daf8e688789f8178387f3f53cc7dbc7f
2013-12-03 03:59:31 REORGANIZE: Disconnect 1 blocks; 00000000133eb60c66a80f9a9ec639c7a0d5b25b96d10c2e5bba499dcf97b662..
2013-12-03 03:59:31 REORGANIZE: Connect 2 blocks; ..0000000006b054b182b3d229421cf6658699043827804b5b8740ca0a99a1e666
2013-12-03 04:08:41 REORGANIZE: Disconnect 2 blocks; 00000000018765d89988c52edf0fe528399ff0e405fa7f005d6bf021bb124b79..
2013-12-03 04:08:41 REORGANIZE: Connect 3 blocks; ..000000001528c419a1920822ff1aef8c5611b2457e24994f6194363fd2ea3ae2
2013-12-03 04:23:19 REORGANIZE: Disconnect 1 blocks; 00000000041eef82ef04297ab03998ad727b7385cc714c0e6d3262e8891c2c57..
2013-12-03 04:23:19 REORGANIZE: Connect 2 blocks; ..000000000e4d989fcd254150ef401c33a25056edcba18d5f139213f116dc10ef
2013-12-03 05:06:44 REORGANIZE: Disconnect 2 blocks; 000000000d0cefd45a9ce3966618e4aa146f5882ab453220077f4771647cd6f8..
2013-12-03 05:06:44 REORGANIZE: Connect 3 blocks; ..000000000a49daac5289a231ac97a16c718febf549ec63f1a96ad8e06f892bd3
2013-12-03 05:15:31 REORGANIZE: Disconnect 1 blocks; 00000000012df64d5e65c61a33a1df7b66f71c22f574ac2377afddbf843f67a3..
2013-12-03 05:15:31 REORGANIZE: Connect 2 blocks; ..00000000072e853a1ee43ee5bdbd07b65929826f4619d6e14927346e62dc923f
2013-12-03 07:09:50 REORGANIZE: Disconnect 1 blocks; 0000000006ce4375e88ab62904b603671eb3deba480679e7734cfe0665eba965..
2013-12-03 07:09:50 REORGANIZE: Connect 2 blocks; ..00000000079ff5f014888683027d22f7c4811e17bde08b6a602debe62c132b99
2013-12-03 07:53:17 REORGANIZE: Disconnect 1 blocks; 00000000121b7bee43ba7d01891fab6de74e2d8f539b6077a476059f268d02e7..
2013-12-03 07:53:17 REORGANIZE: Connect 2 blocks; ..00000000078b802672c002de73e49e9ed9d920bf31e1b624052e7488e7fd4261
2013-12-03 08:03:25 REORGANIZE: Disconnect 1 blocks; 0000000009176d6a387363a3d68807b6283537def13712b67092a3bc5aeb98aa..
2013-12-03 08:03:25 REORGANIZE: Connect 2 blocks; ..00000000028c9b825cc11224313143e4617a990afe04bc65e5c4face3d6d3739
2013-12-03 08:43:37 REORGANIZE: Disconnect 2 blocks; 000000000bdd38a87ff4dbf047a6ee0b7cfd6de3c0f59ed93dfe26067b110884..
2013-12-03 08:43:37 REORGANIZE: Connect 3 blocks; ..0000000005ee7dc1c98007c1621fc238ea343616e72c11f0464a1e84168bc6d5
2013-12-03 08:49:14 REORGANIZE: Disconnect 1 blocks; 0000000008978e2cb2634e31be338a6ba39e1c7d57b3cc0e6a41efe87c348322..
2013-12-03 08:49:14 REORGANIZE: Connect 2 blocks; ..000000000e0d9e0d45d7bfa69a681e9652a6e83057d6996bc2fbf347bffac798
2013-12-03 09:05:29 REORGANIZE: Disconnect 1 blocks; 0000000003c18020d883f15122321db9284af220bfc595fd3425d1836a762343..
2013-12-03 09:05:29 REORGANIZE: Connect 2 blocks; ..000000000a64cd4f334039ca2b4ec4bf4dbcbfa227f10bc3acb7c1fb4beb7d00
2013-12-03 09:14:08 REORGANIZE: Disconnect 1 blocks; 0000000000f03d0c87e9a2fcc85af9d4b63afed65e65c8110fe6c9a44eb1501c..
2013-12-03 09:14:08 REORGANIZE: Connect 2 blocks; ..000000000480c61748ff5107a2cb3601ae49a772f79ddea9597a6738462f333d
2013-12-03 10:22:23 REORGANIZE: Disconnect 1 blocks; 000000000b3e038843c0969b418fa9d0a58f6af9b66b9fde3b61cb12b35d32ea..
2013-12-03 10:22:23 REORGANIZE: Connect 2 blocks; ..000000000ce117ffafeeed0a083f8a2255789280d581b71a06c6c5a67d6a5d41
2013-12-03 10:27:31 REORGANIZE: Disconnect 1 blocks; 000000000cb40286191f380d1b2770cc296296b9710f2e0c38712392fc915765..
2013-12-03 10:27:31 REORGANIZE: Connect 2 blocks; ..000000000d4c1353d74e66a55d550137df5b5618ec03b82287cfa8936d2d12bd
2013-12-03 10:35:56 REORGANIZE: Disconnect 1 blocks; 000000000dd4d12d6d8f57618052bf39a87b2711e7e68a3609490632e6caa7f9..
2013-12-03 10:35:56 REORGANIZE: Connect 2 blocks; ..00000000038c04e8b6c17375acdff263e5313449a5222753ae224a28e39c66aa
2013-12-03 10:51:58 REORGANIZE: Disconnect 1 blocks; 000000000d9f91dbf8b7f88a413132d1e30b371fd7fa52916b1bbe1f9891f176..
2013-12-03 10:51:58 REORGANIZE: Connect 2 blocks; ..000000000d42c3b006a7da5a64d3480af60f9f91cca79d1a7b0fcddfa078ecae
2013-12-03 11:26:23 REORGANIZE: Disconnect 1 blocks; 000000000f20335cecb129b3b970f70bbcfe2c2b84e7962f846a94643266fb0c..
2013-12-03 11:26:23 REORGANIZE: Connect 2 blocks; ..0000000007a8fe7d27fc178622cf945caae0f3d807e9c1b5d7ddb815d175751d
2013-12-03 11:42:08 REORGANIZE: Disconnect 1 blocks; 0000000009ac945ffc2570286089ca4fda18b2c06793c3a10d52c842765e8bdc..
2013-12-03 11:42:08 REORGANIZE: Connect 2 blocks; ..000000000ccb445ab86a9d02d61af85fd105546f93a559f8a65f1ca19a9fb892 ... perhaps one of these doesn't swing in the favor of that pool that has all the hashing power... of special note is it splitting off an existing fork with 3 of its own blocks (*3 times) |
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the majority of coins are premined
quark sucks
Quark wasn't pre-mined, which makes your second statement a bit bizarre.. maybe explain the reasons as to why? |
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If Quark just hits $1 per coin, it'll be the 3rd Largest Coin on the planet. Everyone will want a piece of this coin, This is truly the crypto for the "masses". Great security and potential for "mass" usage. Get in while it's cheap  Quark seems really attractive now. Fast, very secure, usable for trade usage. btw I'm promoting and working with Datacoin, but it is not just for money transactions - dtc has another purpose. Just to be decent, for 'pure trade' I'd like to use Quarks.The coin isn't secure as long as over 3/4ths of the hashing power is being directed at one entity... sorry, but that's just how it is. For the exact same reason that this isn't good for Bitcoins |
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p2pool quark stopped working when reward got reduced to 16.
probably something about the subsidy or dust settings
i was gone until just now so didnt notice it, since whenever it flipped to 16.
process killed now.
i have no clue wtf the coins went to, since i didnt receive any either (2 times out of like 8 blocks)
ed: oh, i'm guessing theyre stored somewhere and didnt just disappear into the æther. i dont even know where to locate a working block explorer, is there one for quark? lol.
p2pool data dir is still as was, so if t's storing them as dust payments or something similar then there's probably a change to make to networks.py to get it to pay them all out
but i cant poke around right now. plus i need to find something else to do with all these cpus, since quark isnt worth a shit anymore now with the drop to 16
http://explorer.andarazoroflove.org/quark/block_crawler.phpI'm working on getting Abe up and running. ah, awesome. i'll have to check out all these missing blocks later. not quite sure what happened to em & curious as to what it'll say in payout |
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Just a couple questions...
1) with a target block interval of only 30 seconds, aren't block orphaned at a high rate?
2) how can cpu mining be guaranteed?
3) what is the advantage that Quark has that those in this thread consider to be deficient in Bitcoin?
Seriously, I don't understand the attraction.
re: 1, yes, they are. Mostly orphaned in favor of that pool that has between 80 and 90% of the hashing power. Having 80 or 90% of the hashing power also means that pool can essentially do anything it wants.. re: make a massive deposit to cryptsy & then withhold blocks until it built a larger chain to double spend ed: obv 'cryptohunter' hasnt run a pool, or mines at the pool that has all the hashing power, because orphans are quite frequent, lol |
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p2pool quark stopped working when reward got reduced to 16.
probably something about the subsidy or dust settings
i was gone until just now so didnt notice it, since whenever it flipped to 16.
process killed now.
i have no clue wtf the coins went to, since i didnt receive any either (2 times out of like 8 blocks)
ed: oh, i'm guessing theyre stored somewhere and didnt just disappear into the æther. i dont even know where to locate a working block explorer, is there one for quark? lol.
p2pool data dir is still as was, so if t's storing them as dust payments or something similar then there's probably a change to make to networks.py to get it to pay them all out
but i cant poke around right now. plus i need to find something else to do with all these cpus, since quark isnt worth a shit anymore now with the drop to 16
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This shows total VM used was 3.6 G which is huge. Why it could be using this much of memory? How I can reduce this? why this problem is showing up now?
3.6GBytes VM isn't huge for a process which uses mmap, note the res is just 777MBytes. Can you run uname -a on that system as well as file /path/to/your/bitcoind and show me the results? Eh. Doesn't everyone's bitcoind gradually bloat? I've seen reserved memory of over 4GB frequently & as recently as the git pull from several weeks ago this is running with 600 initial connections which usually grows to around 850 i used to restart it once or twice a day |
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If Bitcoin blocks become gigabytes in size such that only powerful entities bother running validation nodes, then I think Bitcoin will collapse since it loses its main feature that is appealing (truselessness). A transaction rate which produces 144 1 GB blocks per day is achievable on a home internet connection which I can get for less than $100/month, assuming transaction messages are suitably optimized as mentioned by D&T. You could probably validate 1 gig of blocks per minute on EC2 for under $10/month. They don't charge for incoming bandwidth, and validation should be easily handled by a small spot instance. That said, I'm not sure what the benefit is of this "trust no one" mindset. Ultimately you have to trust someone. The merchant could snatch your smartphone out of your hands right after you enter your password. The buyer could snatch the bag of groceries and run out the door without paying. With online sales it's even more necessary that someone trusts someone. Either the merchant has to trust the buyer not to take the goods/services and run, or the buyer has to trust the merchant not to take the money and run (or one or both of them have to trust a third party to escrow the transaction). Bitcoin is decentralized, but it isn't, and can't be, completely trustless. What do they charge for outgoing bandwidth? What exactly would be the purpose of running a node that simply validates blocks and doesn't relay them to anyone? Oh, wait, I guess they could relay it to one node, one of the 'powerful entities' that runs a pool. 1Gbps dedicated ports w/ unlimited traffic still cost quite a bit. They probably won't in a few years. I think people should just pay their 10c and stfu. |
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What's the limit that Eligius has set? (*) How did Eligius arrive at that limit? (**) Apparently you know the answers to these questions, since you can make the bold statement that "if the limit was 2MB right now we still wouldn't have 1MB blocks."
how exactly was that a bold statement? eligius has a limit of 1MB. they arrived at that limit because that's the limit set in the bitcoin protocol, probably. it sure wasn't because they were colluding with other pools there has never been more than 900KB worth of transactions waiting that have paid the standard fee (0.0001 per 1kb), hence the lack of a 2MB block even if it wouldn't be rejected by the rest of the network |
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LoL @ the Value: 32000.000000000004 QRK
how bizarre.
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if this fork happened, it wouldn't be quark anymore. You are arguing against the whole concept of quark, it won't happen.
Quark has serious drawback in mining issue. This has to be solved imho. If solved it will make huge gains lol, the 'mining issue' is one of the main 'points' of the coin.. if you solve the 'mining issue' then it isn't quark anymore... i mean, seriously? and it sure wasn't premined, I was there with the 2048 size blocks too |
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Can someone tell me why is the market f'd up?
All the coins lost its value. Prices going down and down.
Only a ninja can stop a ninja. |
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Can't blame them... QRK is seriously mismanaged...
it's not good when one pool has about 85-90% + of the total hashing power either. i guesstimated 70% or so earlier, but now that the block explorer is functional again it's easy to see just have to look at the inputs to QTSuoU9oGWipyidw9ArzibkPtvatZLNP7f they can do cool things like this: http://176.221.46.81/block/000000000258d2ad5fdd38325c2e2282db721d20658b20299b14fddca34304bband cause a 3 block reorg, my quarkcoind received their blocks after the others |
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But the cost to transfer even 10000 megs in a few seconds is low compared to the cost to compute the block. For a major pool server maybe but the cost is pretty much static so it makes super massive pools and operations far easier to ammortize that cost. You can transfer 10 gigs out of Amazon for $1.20. Incoming transfers are free. You pay according to how much you transfer out, not as a static payment. I must have missed something here? First off, 10 gigs is nothing. Most major pools are probably on unmetered bandwidth or 100TB limits. I was sending out about 1.5TB upstream every week, just from running a bitcoind node.. that'd be (whoops) *$180 from Amazon, I guess (in a week) |
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Can the (down) part be removed? It's up now & it'll be up as long as Quarks don't drop back to 0.00000050... Though nogleg.com should be used instead of the IP, since I have about a half a dozen new dedicated servers coming online soon & I may move it to a faster machine i also stopped mining on nogleg, as it was the main reason for those spikes in the getblocktemplate times.. slowed new work being issued as well |
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Ok,
Seems nobody want to tell me where can i find quark miner programs. I asked it twice before.
anybody want to share some information about quark mining?
I just put apache back up, www.nogleg.com (better just go to www.nogleg.com/archive/quarkcoin) go to bitcoin archives, and then the Quark directory the minerd i just put there is compiled for ubuntu 12.04 the other stuff is for windows quark_w64.rar is all the windows stuff in rar quark_w64.nz is all the windows stuff in far superior nanozip but no guarantees on how long i keep apache up, it causes too much BS with ppl trying to find exploits oh... and, yeah, a xeon e3-1240v3 dedicated server pays for itself in like 3 or 4 days (sigh) ED: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=353448.0could be (or most likely is) faster. not sure. haven't tried it. so also not sure about any possible security issues source for the original one is at https://github.com/Neisklar/quarkcoin-cpuminerthanks. i downloaded your files, also trying to compile from source code. is there any difference between source and your compiled versions? No difference on the compiled minerd for Ubuntu. I downloaded the Windows binaries, so didn't compile that myself. I just now tested this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=353448.0and it's exactly the same for me as the other windows binaries... but then, I'm not using bulldozer or haswell on my i7 (bloomfield). I actually get better performance running minerd on a virtual Ubuntu machine |
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Ok,
Seems nobody want to tell me where can i find quark miner programs. I asked it twice before.
anybody want to share some information about quark mining?
I just put apache back up, www.nogleg.com (better just go to www.nogleg.com/archive/quarkcoin) go to bitcoin archives, and then the Quark directory the minerd i just put there is compiled for ubuntu 12.04 the other stuff is for windows quark_w64.rar is all the windows stuff in rar quark_w64.nz is all the windows stuff in far superior nanozip but no guarantees on how long i keep apache up, it causes too much BS with ppl trying to find exploits oh... and, yeah, a xeon e3-1240v3 dedicated server pays for itself in like 3 or 4 days (sigh) ED: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=353448.0could be (or most likely is) faster. not sure. haven't tried it. so also not sure about any possible security issues source for the original one is at https://github.com/Neisklar/quarkcoin-cpuminer |
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