[ANN] [QRK] Quark | Core 0.10 upgrade

[zvs]

Just a couple questions...

1) with a target block interval of only 30 seconds, aren't block orphaned at a high rate?

2) how can cpu mining be guaranteed?

3) what is the advantage that Quark has that those in this thread consider to be deficient in Bitcoin?

Seriously, I don't understand the attraction.

re: 1, yes, they are.  Mostly orphaned in favor of that pool that has between 80 and 90% of the hashing power.

Having 80 or 90% of the hashing power also means that pool can essentially do anything it wants..  re: make a massive deposit to cryptsy & then withhold blocks until it built a larger chain to double spend

ed: obv 'cryptohunter' hasnt run a pool, or mines at the pool that has all the hashing power, because orphans are quite frequent, lol

[georgem]

Just a couple questions...

1) with a target block interval of only 30 seconds, aren't block orphaned at a high rate?

2) how can cpu mining be guaranteed?

3) what is the advantage that Quark has that those in this thread consider to be deficient in Bitcoin?

Seriously, I don't understand the attraction.

1) at the beginning that was a problem, now not anymore.

2) No one can guarantee anything. Since when do cryptocurrencies or any software whatsoever come with a guarantee?

Who knows what kind of computers will exist in even 10 years. With a little bad luck those future computers can do all bitcoin
mining within a day, and make bitcoins very obsolete...

3) The money master Bill Still is behind it, and it has the same name like the most likeable figure in StarTrek Deepspace nine.
No, just kidding. I suppose that remains to be seen, they say it has many different hashing algorithms put together and not just one, like bitcoin.
But does this logic equate more security?
If I put 6 different locks on my door, is it more secure? Not really... there are other factors.

[zvs]

p2pool quark stopped working when reward got reduced to 16.

probably something about the subsidy or dust settings

i was gone until just now so didnt notice it, since whenever it flipped to 16.

process killed now.

i have no clue wtf the coins went to, since i didnt receive any either (2 times out of like 8 blocks)

ed: oh, i'm guessing theyre stored somewhere and didnt just disappear into the æther.  i dont even know where to locate a working block explorer,  is there one for quark?  lol.  

p2pool data dir is still as was, so if t's storing them as dust payments or something similar then there's probably a change to make to networks.py to get it to pay them all out

but i cant poke around right now.  plus i need to find something else to do with all these cpus, since quark isnt worth a shit anymore now with the drop to 16

http://explorer.andarazoroflove.org/quark/block_crawler.php

I'm working on getting Abe up and running.

ah, awesome.  i'll have to check out all these missing blocks later.  not quite sure what happened to em & curious as to what it'll say in payout

[MoonShadow]

Just a couple questions...

1) with a target block interval of only 30 seconds, aren't block orphaned at a high rate?

2) how can cpu mining be guaranteed?

3) what is the advantage that Quark has that those in this thread consider to be deficient in Bitcoin?

Seriously, I don't understand the attraction.

1) at the beginning that was a problem, now not anymore.

Okay, how was this problem solved?

2) No one can guarantee anything. Since when do cryptocurrencies or any software whatsoever come with a guarantee?

Who knows what kind of computers will exist in even 10 years. With a little bad luck those future computers can do all bitcoin
mining within a day, and make bitcoins very obsolete...

  Okay, not guarantee.  What about Quark makes mining with GPUs or Asics difficult?

3) The money master Bill Still is behind it, and it has the same name like the most likeable figure in StarTrek Deepspace nine.
No, just kidding. I suppose that remains to be seen, they say it has many different hashing algorithms put together and not just one, like bitcoin.
But does this logic equate more security?
If I put 6 different locks on my door, is it more secure? Not really... there are other factors.

Bitcoin has the ability to use two different hashing algos right now, but just uses one twice.  This kind of thing coudl be spliced onto Bitcoin without stopping the running network, I'm just curious as to the merits of such a thing.  As you noted, there is a case of deminishing returns with adding extra locks onto the same door.

[Robert Lewandowski]

aaannnnnnnnd more Quark "Scam" accusations https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=0313StQ_SQU#t=361

lol, yeah, I am watching it as we speak... started about 20 min ago... what an idiot, the same lame accusations over and over again.

All accusations could have been made with bitcoin 3 years ago...

That's like jealousy between siblings... like the older brother who hates on the younger because he hates competition....can't explain the psychology behind this otherwise...

Im honestly not for any particular cryptocurrency, i would like to see all the good ones succeed. Its incredibly frustrating when people can't look at this from a different point of view....

Yes, and I understand the concerns and doubts, because there are really scamcoins out there.

But at this point, what happens with QRK is like a deliberate character assassination.

Best thing to do, is not concern ourselves with defending ourselves but with working on QRK community and tools, and try to realize most of the points of the previous list that was posted here.

Looks like the vid was posted here.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1s1zr1/why_quarkcoin_is_a_scam_from_bitcoin_report/

[zvs]

Just a couple questions...

1) with a target block interval of only 30 seconds, aren't block orphaned at a high rate?

2) how can cpu mining be guaranteed?

3) what is the advantage that Quark has that those in this thread consider to be deficient in Bitcoin?

Seriously, I don't understand the attraction.

1) at the beginning that was a problem, now not anymore.

Okay, how was this problem solved?

well, as I said earlier, it wasn't & I could prove it with log files showing all the orphans

Code:

2013-12-03 12:16:03 REORGANIZE: Disconnect 1 blocks; 000000000d9f356edcbecb0eb41013db76fed78a01931f8870b0315d65cb6681..
2013-12-03 12:16:03 REORGANIZE: Connect 2 blocks; ..0000000000f4799e62507444a3dc8d6107f2a44083ccf7e9d727b79dc5189162
2013-12-03 12:19:34 REORGANIZE: Disconnect 1 blocks; 00000000066e58e1adc415ae550e408f79f6795466d90f77047d6dad122a1e24..
2013-12-03 12:19:34 REORGANIZE: Connect 2 blocks; ..000000000f9952fab51a5a0dcfd8d79eeb00c9a785d60a5eb1e112940b3fe48d
2013-12-03 12:33:33 REORGANIZE: Disconnect 1 blocks; 0000000002ddab59091ecf3827d11c55131ce73c21c9a5ee863b70bff76c4c99..
2013-12-03 12:33:33 REORGANIZE: Connect 2 blocks; ..000000000a3981866e606566d7bef890a783d91e0b30fb6a62546ffce27280e0
2013-12-03 12:40:10 REORGANIZE: Disconnect 1 blocks; 0000000005fef8b05f50ab4e6000ff26cf068bbc3109b0a7216da8371a27d2d4..
2013-12-03 12:40:10 REORGANIZE: Connect 2 blocks; ..00000000043c3c309d2c1ff17125eddc688920441eefc536c9dc0739e940da07
2013-12-03 13:09:16 REORGANIZE: Disconnect 1 blocks; 0000000014432a527781def9738609434ae5000fe837f8baf54bf6f201418e3c..
2013-12-03 13:09:16 REORGANIZE: Connect 2 blocks; ..000000000586fe57b60b1d0ce9bdaa8c4b1eefcaca0a4833b6619d467570f8a9
2013-12-03 13:26:35 REORGANIZE: Disconnect 1 blocks; 000000000307206c27892091e5d0de337d5e8b72b9e386a27ebf514a85f3a559..
2013-12-03 13:26:35 REORGANIZE: Connect 2 blocks; ..000000000dfa8602e21d2b5a6e8454ff63020c43320600ce4139d7e8e379f41f
2013-12-03 13:32:41 REORGANIZE: Disconnect 1 blocks; 0000000010f70e9942d0974bcfb6f3293169899fff003c532ae51fcc8f2869ce..
2013-12-03 13:32:41 REORGANIZE: Connect 2 blocks; ..0000000008a800cac3bc9abbc980b833e589fd9b3d7cc9d48ac636243d6050c0
2013-12-03 13:52:08 REORGANIZE: Disconnect 1 blocks; 0000000001416044560af130dc6eb705c93f308650460c97b4da3c433fc1d442..
2013-12-03 13:52:08 REORGANIZE: Connect 2 blocks; ..000000001026013f209ff720e9e507d014cf2687d52d301aa89e390022f2f28b

there's a 90 minute snippet

ed: actually, here's the rest of the day up to 12:16

Code:

2013-12-03 00:29:49 REORGANIZE: Disconnect 1 blocks; 000000000a6a20c05bfe7e2f084c1b3385e3a99acdaed3fc2d027ca65ffebdcb..
2013-12-03 00:29:49 REORGANIZE: Connect 2 blocks; ..000000000b709878dac7c827b6d4d026ffb3e90fd08c8194d3d680861f355dbf
2013-12-03 00:54:32 REORGANIZE: Disconnect 1 blocks; 000000000466c8df806588129798aa383df43f20d0a2f5443838417e58f2d61d..
2013-12-03 00:54:32 REORGANIZE: Connect 2 blocks; ..00000000146800dd1f62b9fa22a2533ea0a8c8a7a7b0b2e302dd62e8bfe54ef6
2013-12-03 01:03:42 REORGANIZE: Disconnect 1 blocks; 0000000000a1ee56b62e73afcd6887f13ee6b196141fd6f0a3fb45239b8f79a4..
2013-12-03 01:03:42 REORGANIZE: Connect 2 blocks; ..0000000001c8a3bb7c91fded324cba6328dfe093e1b0955aa868ce7ee85d7e21
2013-12-03 02:04:30 REORGANIZE: Disconnect 1 blocks; 00000000035a9cc1b427879e0e15e5af6c0690d8aad6977a629060f2436c7c55..
2013-12-03 02:04:30 REORGANIZE: Connect 2 blocks; ..0000000008d1c0b3d27b26e30fe61755960126c74724829ab5d04488bdb8dde3
2013-12-03 02:50:30 REORGANIZE: Disconnect 1 blocks; 0000000000e5616d4795dcfb644cf9c5fbd760719ca4b28cfe700bd0bff747e9..
2013-12-03 02:50:30 REORGANIZE: Connect 2 blocks; ..0000000003e622d92a6214dbf3d2e7b39d56c1441e4849a283c7e610506dafe8
2013-12-03 03:44:16 REORGANIZE: Disconnect 1 blocks; 000000000e3656b65bed4932f158036d88ec4c64a10be43fa4a943b7dd190a3c..
2013-12-03 03:44:16 REORGANIZE: Connect 2 blocks; ..000000000d33be95f49a0cd7ad830b1155685ae5e165ca2a07a1d1a24081d6bf
2013-12-03 03:57:42 REORGANIZE: Disconnect 1 blocks; 0000000007cc1e6c786fc1decbfc81422761e8ab839f54e910764fab15902e5f..
2013-12-03 03:57:42 REORGANIZE: Connect 2 blocks; ..0000000017aa93464c04a13dc5e58512daf8e688789f8178387f3f53cc7dbc7f
2013-12-03 03:59:31 REORGANIZE: Disconnect 1 blocks; 00000000133eb60c66a80f9a9ec639c7a0d5b25b96d10c2e5bba499dcf97b662..
2013-12-03 03:59:31 REORGANIZE: Connect 2 blocks; ..0000000006b054b182b3d229421cf6658699043827804b5b8740ca0a99a1e666
2013-12-03 04:08:41 REORGANIZE: Disconnect 2 blocks; 00000000018765d89988c52edf0fe528399ff0e405fa7f005d6bf021bb124b79..
2013-12-03 04:08:41 REORGANIZE: Connect 3 blocks; ..000000001528c419a1920822ff1aef8c5611b2457e24994f6194363fd2ea3ae2
2013-12-03 04:23:19 REORGANIZE: Disconnect 1 blocks; 00000000041eef82ef04297ab03998ad727b7385cc714c0e6d3262e8891c2c57..
2013-12-03 04:23:19 REORGANIZE: Connect 2 blocks; ..000000000e4d989fcd254150ef401c33a25056edcba18d5f139213f116dc10ef
2013-12-03 05:06:44 REORGANIZE: Disconnect 2 blocks; 000000000d0cefd45a9ce3966618e4aa146f5882ab453220077f4771647cd6f8..
2013-12-03 05:06:44 REORGANIZE: Connect 3 blocks; ..000000000a49daac5289a231ac97a16c718febf549ec63f1a96ad8e06f892bd3
2013-12-03 05:15:31 REORGANIZE: Disconnect 1 blocks; 00000000012df64d5e65c61a33a1df7b66f71c22f574ac2377afddbf843f67a3..
2013-12-03 05:15:31 REORGANIZE: Connect 2 blocks; ..00000000072e853a1ee43ee5bdbd07b65929826f4619d6e14927346e62dc923f
2013-12-03 07:09:50 REORGANIZE: Disconnect 1 blocks; 0000000006ce4375e88ab62904b603671eb3deba480679e7734cfe0665eba965..
2013-12-03 07:09:50 REORGANIZE: Connect 2 blocks; ..00000000079ff5f014888683027d22f7c4811e17bde08b6a602debe62c132b99
2013-12-03 07:53:17 REORGANIZE: Disconnect 1 blocks; 00000000121b7bee43ba7d01891fab6de74e2d8f539b6077a476059f268d02e7..
2013-12-03 07:53:17 REORGANIZE: Connect 2 blocks; ..00000000078b802672c002de73e49e9ed9d920bf31e1b624052e7488e7fd4261
2013-12-03 08:03:25 REORGANIZE: Disconnect 1 blocks; 0000000009176d6a387363a3d68807b6283537def13712b67092a3bc5aeb98aa..
2013-12-03 08:03:25 REORGANIZE: Connect 2 blocks; ..00000000028c9b825cc11224313143e4617a990afe04bc65e5c4face3d6d3739
2013-12-03 08:43:37 REORGANIZE: Disconnect 2 blocks; 000000000bdd38a87ff4dbf047a6ee0b7cfd6de3c0f59ed93dfe26067b110884..
2013-12-03 08:43:37 REORGANIZE: Connect 3 blocks; ..0000000005ee7dc1c98007c1621fc238ea343616e72c11f0464a1e84168bc6d5
2013-12-03 08:49:14 REORGANIZE: Disconnect 1 blocks; 0000000008978e2cb2634e31be338a6ba39e1c7d57b3cc0e6a41efe87c348322..
2013-12-03 08:49:14 REORGANIZE: Connect 2 blocks; ..000000000e0d9e0d45d7bfa69a681e9652a6e83057d6996bc2fbf347bffac798
2013-12-03 09:05:29 REORGANIZE: Disconnect 1 blocks; 0000000003c18020d883f15122321db9284af220bfc595fd3425d1836a762343..
2013-12-03 09:05:29 REORGANIZE: Connect 2 blocks; ..000000000a64cd4f334039ca2b4ec4bf4dbcbfa227f10bc3acb7c1fb4beb7d00
2013-12-03 09:14:08 REORGANIZE: Disconnect 1 blocks; 0000000000f03d0c87e9a2fcc85af9d4b63afed65e65c8110fe6c9a44eb1501c..
2013-12-03 09:14:08 REORGANIZE: Connect 2 blocks; ..000000000480c61748ff5107a2cb3601ae49a772f79ddea9597a6738462f333d
2013-12-03 10:22:23 REORGANIZE: Disconnect 1 blocks; 000000000b3e038843c0969b418fa9d0a58f6af9b66b9fde3b61cb12b35d32ea..
2013-12-03 10:22:23 REORGANIZE: Connect 2 blocks; ..000000000ce117ffafeeed0a083f8a2255789280d581b71a06c6c5a67d6a5d41
2013-12-03 10:27:31 REORGANIZE: Disconnect 1 blocks; 000000000cb40286191f380d1b2770cc296296b9710f2e0c38712392fc915765..
2013-12-03 10:27:31 REORGANIZE: Connect 2 blocks; ..000000000d4c1353d74e66a55d550137df5b5618ec03b82287cfa8936d2d12bd
2013-12-03 10:35:56 REORGANIZE: Disconnect 1 blocks; 000000000dd4d12d6d8f57618052bf39a87b2711e7e68a3609490632e6caa7f9..
2013-12-03 10:35:56 REORGANIZE: Connect 2 blocks; ..00000000038c04e8b6c17375acdff263e5313449a5222753ae224a28e39c66aa
2013-12-03 10:51:58 REORGANIZE: Disconnect 1 blocks; 000000000d9f91dbf8b7f88a413132d1e30b371fd7fa52916b1bbe1f9891f176..
2013-12-03 10:51:58 REORGANIZE: Connect 2 blocks; ..000000000d42c3b006a7da5a64d3480af60f9f91cca79d1a7b0fcddfa078ecae
2013-12-03 11:26:23 REORGANIZE: Disconnect 1 blocks; 000000000f20335cecb129b3b970f70bbcfe2c2b84e7962f846a94643266fb0c..
2013-12-03 11:26:23 REORGANIZE: Connect 2 blocks; ..0000000007a8fe7d27fc178622cf945caae0f3d807e9c1b5d7ddb815d175751d
2013-12-03 11:42:08 REORGANIZE: Disconnect 1 blocks; 0000000009ac945ffc2570286089ca4fda18b2c06793c3a10d52c842765e8bdc..
2013-12-03 11:42:08 REORGANIZE: Connect 2 blocks; ..000000000ccb445ab86a9d02d61af85fd105546f93a559f8a65f1ca19a9fb892

... perhaps one of these doesn't swing in the favor of that pool that has all the hashing power...  of special note is it splitting off an existing fork with 3 of its own blocks (*3 times)

[georgem]

Okay, how was this problem solved?

It simply went away once more people got involved.

Okay, not guarantee.  What about Quark makes mining with GPUs or Asics difficult?

Much bigger innovations and progress are made in GPUs lately than in CPUs.
And Asics are a different beast totally. Basically every thinkable algorithm can be made into a specialized ASIC,
but the problem seems to be more in the memory and data throughput.

Bitcoin has the ability to use two different hashing algos right now, but just uses one twice.  This kind of thing coudl be spliced onto Bitcoin without stopping the running network, I'm just curious as to the merits of such a thing.  As you noted, there is a case of deminishing returns with adding extra locks onto the same door.

Yes, it's a jungle out there. Have you ever seen a book at amazon with the name "Bitcoin, how the protocol works"...?
Is there any academic institution (university, etc) teaching the bitcoin protocol basics and looking for further innovations?

I don't think so, cause they are government institutions, and no taxmoney will go into that.

So, it remains to be seen... at this moment bitcoin and altcoins are a "closed book" even for large parts of academia.

That's what makes it so interesting.

So honest answer: sorry, I can't answer your questions and concerns without first trying to understand what happens at lowlevel protocol in those cryptocoins.

[georgem]

lol, wait, there are some interesting books out there :

http://www.amazon.com/Bitcoin-Internals-Technical-Guide-ebook/dp/B00DG8EPT0/ref=sr_1_8?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1386135614&sr=1-8&keywords=bitcoin

[zvs]

Here's a more recent one... note all the clients that had to request 2 blocks, since they had the.. well.. "proper" chain, you know, the block that was actually reported first.

Code:

2013-12-04 05:00:43 received block 0000000007cb5347632a9b61b070b0b7f494ac9c56b7fcd2f4a2720b01219ee0 from xxxxxxxx   (<--- this block got orphaned, from solo miner or someone w/o 90% hashrate)
2013-12-04 05:01:17 received block 0000000005569d41fa064862199eacc7d914654ced4f6668a0c8aa0a769df79a from xxxxxxxx   (<--- this is the late block, from Pool X -- received it now because of the next block)
2013-12-04 05:01:17 ProcessBlock: ORPHAN BLOCK, prev=00000000060a682ab411535455da49be84204a0f7932268002c1ebf1880d7a42
2013-12-04 05:01:17 received block 00000000060a682ab411535455da49be84204a0f7932268002c1ebf1880d7a42 from xxxxxxxx   (<--- this block also came from Pool X, which caused the 7cb block to be orphaned)
2013-12-04 05:01:17 REORGANIZE: Disconnect 1 blocks; 0000000007cb5347632a9b61b070b0b7f494ac9c56b7fcd2f4a2720b01219ee0..
2013-12-04 05:01:17 REORGANIZE: Connect 2 blocks; ..0000000005569d41fa064862199eacc7d914654ced4f6668a0c8aa0a769df79a
2013-12-04 05:01:17 Committing 16 changed transactions to coin database...
2013-12-04 05:01:17 SetBestChain: new best=0000000005569d41fa064862199eacc7d914654ced4f6668a0c8aa0a769df79a  height=424826  log2_work=51.19364  tx=527365  date=2013-12-04 05:01:03 progress=0.999997
2013-12-04 05:01:17 ProcessBlock: ACCEPTED
2013-12-04 05:01:19 getblocks 424825 to 0000000005569d41fa064862199eacc7d914654ced4f6668a0c8aa0a769df79a limit 2000 from xxx
2013-12-04 05:01:19 getblocks 424825 to 0000000005569d41fa064862199eacc7d914654ced4f6668a0c8aa0a769df79a limit 2000 from xxx
2013-12-04 05:01:19 getblocks 424825 to 0000000005569d41fa064862199eacc7d914654ced4f6668a0c8aa0a769df79a limit 2000 from xxx
2013-12-04 05:01:19 getblocks 424825 to 0000000005569d41fa064862199eacc7d914654ced4f6668a0c8aa0a769df79a limit 2000 from xxx
2013-12-04 05:01:19 getblocks 424825 to 0000000005569d41fa064862199eacc7d914654ced4f6668a0c8aa0a769df79a limit 2000 from xxx
2013-12-04 05:01:19 getblocks 424825 to 0000000005569d41fa064862199eacc7d914654ced4f6668a0c8aa0a769df79a limit 2000 from xxx
2013-12-04 05:01:19 getblocks 424825 to 0000000005569d41fa064862199eacc7d914654ced4f6668a0c8aa0a769df79a limit 2000 from xxx
2013-12-04 05:01:19 getblocks 424825 to 0000000005569d41fa064862199eacc7d914654ced4f6668a0c8aa0a769df79a limit 2000 from xxx
2013-12-04 05:01:19 getblocks 424825 to 0000000005569d41fa064862199eacc7d914654ced4f6668a0c8aa0a769df79a limit 2000 from xxx
2013-12-04 05:01:19 getblocks 424825 to 0000000005569d41fa064862199eacc7d914654ced4f6668a0c8aa0a769df79a limit 2000 from xxx
2013-12-04 05:01:19 getblocks 424825 to 0000000005569d41fa064862199eacc7d914654ced4f6668a0c8aa0a769df79a limit 2000 from xxx
2013-12-04 05:01:19 getblocks 424825 to 0000000005569d41fa064862199eacc7d914654ced4f6668a0c8aa0a769df79a limit 2000 from xxx
2013-12-04 05:01:19 getblocks 424825 to 0000000005569d41fa064862199eacc7d914654ced4f6668a0c8aa0a769df79a limit 2000 from xxx
2013-12-04 05:01:19 getblocks 424825 to 0000000005569d41fa064862199eacc7d914654ced4f6668a0c8aa0a769df79a limit 2000 from xxx
2013-12-04 05:01:19 getblocks 424825 to 0000000005569d41fa064862199eacc7d914654ced4f6668a0c8aa0a769df79a limit 2000 from xxx
2013-12-04 05:01:19 getblocks 424825 to 0000000005569d41fa064862199eacc7d914654ced4f6668a0c8aa0a769df79a limit 2000 from xxx
2013-12-04 05:01:19 getblocks 424825 to 0000000005569d41fa064862199eacc7d914654ced4f6668a0c8aa0a769df79a limit 2000 from xxx
2013-12-04 05:01:19 getblocks 424825 to 0000000005569d41fa064862199eacc7d914654ced4f6668a0c8aa0a769df79a limit 2000 from xxx
2013-12-04 05:01:19 getblocks 424825 to 0000000005569d41fa064862199eacc7d914654ced4f6668a0c8aa0a769df79a limit 2000 from xxx
2013-12-04 05:01:19 getblocks 424825 to 0000000005569d41fa064862199eacc7d914654ced4f6668a0c8aa0a769df79a limit 2000 from xxx
2013-12-04 05:01:19 getblocks 424825 to 0000000005569d41fa064862199eacc7d914654ced4f6668a0c8aa0a769df79a limit 2000 from xxx
2013-12-04 05:01:19 getblocks 424825 to 0000000005569d41fa064862199eacc7d914654ced4f6668a0c8aa0a769df79a limit 2000 from xxx
2013-12-04 05:01:19 getblocks 424825 to 0000000005569d41fa064862199eacc7d914654ced4f6668a0c8aa0a769df79a limit 2000 from xxx
2013-12-04 05:01:19 getblocks 424825 to 0000000005569d41fa064862199eacc7d914654ced4f6668a0c8aa0a769df79a limit 2000 from xxx
2013-12-04 05:01:19 getblocks 424825 to 0000000005569d41fa064862199eacc7d914654ced4f6668a0c8aa0a769df79a limit 2000 from xxx
2013-12-04 05:01:19 getblocks 424825 to 0000000005569d41fa064862199eacc7d914654ced4f6668a0c8aa0a769df79a limit 2000 from xxx
2013-12-04 05:01:19 getblocks 424825 to 0000000005569d41fa064862199eacc7d914654ced4f6668a0c8aa0a769df79a limit 2000 from xxx
2013-12-04 05:01:19 getblocks 424825 to 0000000005569d41fa064862199eacc7d914654ced4f6668a0c8aa0a769df79a limit 2000 from xxx
2013-12-04 05:01:19 getblocks 424825 to 0000000005569d41fa064862199eacc7d914654ced4f6668a0c8aa0a769df79a limit 2000 from xxx
2013-12-04 05:01:19 getblocks 424825 to 0000000005569d41fa064862199eacc7d914654ced4f6668a0c8aa0a769df79a limit 2000 from xxx
2013-12-04 05:01:19 getblocks 424825 to 0000000005569d41fa064862199eacc7d914654ced4f6668a0c8aa0a769df79a limit 2000 from xxx
2013-12-04 05:01:19 getblocks 424825 to 0000000005569d41fa064862199eacc7d914654ced4f6668a0c8aa0a769df79a limit 2000 from xxx
2013-12-04 05:01:19 getblocks 424825 to 0000000005569d41fa064862199eacc7d914654ced4f6668a0c8aa0a769df79a limit 2000 from xxx
2013-12-04 05:01:19 getblocks 424825 to 0000000005569d41fa064862199eacc7d914654ced4f6668a0c8aa0a769df79a limit 2000 from xxx
2013-12-04 05:01:19 getblocks 424825 to 0000000005569d41fa064862199eacc7d914654ced4f6668a0c8aa0a769df79a limit 2000 from xxx
2013-12-04 05:01:19 getblocks 424825 to 0000000005569d41fa064862199eacc7d914654ced4f6668a0c8aa0a769df79a limit 2000 from xxx
2013-12-04 05:01:19 getblocks 424825 to 0000000005569d41fa064862199eacc7d914654ced4f6668a0c8aa0a769df79a limit 2000 from xxx
2013-12-04 05:01:19 getblocks 424825 to 0000000005569d41fa064862199eacc7d914654ced4f6668a0c8aa0a769df79a limit 2000 from xxx
2013-12-04 05:01:19 getblocks 424825 to 0000000005569d41fa064862199eacc7d914654ced4f6668a0c8aa0a769df79a limit 2000 from xxx
2013-12-04 05:01:20 getblocks 424825 to 0000000005569d41fa064862199eacc7d914654ced4f6668a0c8aa0a769df79a limit 2000 from xxx
2013-12-04 05:01:20 getblocks 424825 to 0000000005569d41fa064862199eacc7d914654ced4f6668a0c8aa0a769df79a limit 2000 from xxx
2013-12-04 05:01:20 getblocks 424825 to 0000000005569d41fa064862199eacc7d914654ced4f6668a0c8aa0a769df79a limit 2000 from xxx
2013-12-04 05:01:20 getblocks 424825 to 0000000005569d41fa064862199eacc7d914654ced4f6668a0c8aa0a769df79a limit 2000 from xxx

People that have no clue about the # of orphans should really stop commenting, haha.

[dE_logics]

That article has a silver lock........ ahhh finally.

[georgem]

That article has a silver lock........ ahhh finally.

"Semiprotected until dec 11 2013".... phew we can breath again... lol

[Kryon]

who look at Source code that or other crypto coin?
 
As I know of a university programing maximal type variable in C++ is long double.
 
Can be so that with increasing difficulty (power network) variable in the code that is responsible for it exceeds own type and code just crash?
May it be or not? i dont look a source code.

i am not a panic. just interesting.


i very like english. but it's my second lang

[bluebit25]

I think the owner of the site: http://coinmarketcap.com/ doesn't like Quarkcoin, why would it just magically disappear from the list?

[KeyserSozeMC]

I think the owner of the site: http://coinmarketcap.com/ doesn't like Quarkcoin, why would it just magically disappear from the list?

I think there's a problem with QRK atm, that's why they removed it from the list.

OR,

Not sure, might sound stupid, but it can be related to the ''scam coin'' topic which is out there.

[georgem]

I think the owner of the site: http://coinmarketcap.com/ doesn't like Quarkcoin, why would it just magically disappear from the list?

yep, he sure is not in favour of quarkcoin.  (jk)

But his website is also dependend on many outside sources.
Why doesn't he just run a daemon of every coin on his server (instead of external blockexplorers) and get the number of coins with command line getblockcount or moneysupply and then do a little math (block segmentation etc)?
He then only has to multiply it with a weighted price from different exchanges (all have api) and get the marketcap.

That's what I am preparing guys, looking forward to present it to you in a few days.;-)

[georgem]

I think the owner of the site: http://coinmarketcap.com/ doesn't like Quarkcoin, why would it just magically disappear from the list?

I think there's a problem with QRK atm, that's why they removed it from the list.

OR,

Not sure, might sound stupid, but it can be related to the ''scam coin'' topic which is out there.

Both wrong, it's the blockexplorer that is down.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=199685.msg3817075#msg3817075

[bluebit25]

I think the owner of the site: http://coinmarketcap.com/ doesn't like Quarkcoin, why would it just magically disappear from the list?

yep, he sure is not in favour of quarkcoin.  (jk)

But his website is also dependend on many outside sources.
Why doesn't he just run a daemon of every coin on his server (instead of external blockexplorers) and get the number of coins with command line getblockcount or moneysupply and then do a little math (block segmentation etc)?
He then only has to multiply it with a weighted price from different exchanges (all have api) and get the marketcap.

That's what I am preparing guys, looking forward to present it to you in a few days.;-)

That's fantastic news, can't wait for this to come out!!!

[dE_logics]

who look at Source code that or other crypto coin?
 
As I know of a university programing maximal type variable in C++ is long double.
 
Can be so that with increasing difficulty (power network) variable in the code that is responsible for it exceeds own type and code just crash?
May it be or not? i dont look a source code.

i am not a panic. just interesting.


i very like english. but it's my second lang

The current difficulty is 4 digits, and I don't think it'll ever exceed that. long double can hold insanely long value.

[dE_logics]

Thanks to the block explorer, the prices are down.

We need a cluster for this.

[Jamievs]

Thanks to the block explorer, the prices are down.

We need a cluster for this.

It's being dumped big time at the moment on cryptsy. I wonder why.