FYI, the guys coming in here to troll with the "SDC" names are actually XST "supporters" trying to get others to attack SDC in retaliation for what happened to their coin.  Pretty lame attempts but the fact that their new accounts created in the last hour or 2 should give it away.

Given what happened last time, I would be surprised if it came out and would "suddenly" reduce the block reward etc.  Usually when a coin does a hard fork that's not an emergency one, the wallet is released several days before the block where the fork would actually take place in order to give everyone plenty of time to get updated and deal with any build issues etc that might come up.  So for example, you might put out a wallet tonight but the "hard fork" not take place for another few days.  But I really don't know what they're planning this go around.

I wouldn't trust anything from a P&D twitter account.

However, here's what we do know for "fact"

Well that's funny.  I got more answers to question here than I ever did over in the XST thread.  But so be it, you're dismissed as not worth my time any longer.

Pinocchio coin? Are you referring to the 3 page whitepaper that they say is a "very preliminary case study"? Or is there more to it somewhere or something completely different?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=745352.msg8971700#msg8971700

I also read a lot of different things about ZK, the Zerocoin/Zerocash stuff, Darkwallet etc since they all appeared to me to be along the same lines.

I did ask a number of pages back when I was first looked into the coin.  Funny thing about that.  You were complaining about not getting answers from them, either here or in the XST thread, can't remember which thread now, and someone posted in response to you all the stuff I had asked and the answers I received.  lol

Granted, not all my questions were answered at the time and they were supposed to be putting together more info, but still, I got some answers to what I asked at the time.

You seem to forget I was in that chat. I know exactly what he said and didn't say.  I was also in a Monero chat room with the guys that would actually have more information than the bitcoin guys.

I'm certainly not "defending" the Stealthsend stuff as it's pretty clear at this point that even if it gets implemented it has issues and will be questionable as to whether or not it's cryptographically sound.  But I just want to see some truths being told and not bullshit.

More worthless crap from you.  You never have anything worthwhile to say.  And let's just point out that I sat in that XST thread "discussing things" with that longandshort guys about his so called "proof" until he finally came out and said where he was getting his info. You in the meantime did and do absolutely nothing.  In other words.  I did more to actually "defend" chandran sigs than you have ever done and I don't even like XST or that community.  So why don't you just go hide back under the rock you crawled out from under.

The least you can do is be truthful.  They didn't say it wasn't feasible and in fact one of them said they didn't have enough information about all potential solutions to actually know or not.

This whole thing is just pathetic.  Both sides just spewing off bullshit to suit their own purposes.  Grow a fucking spine people and show some ethics in what the hell you say. The number of children in this shit pretending to be adults just pushes me over the edge at times.

It's not possible to calculate an exact time.  In an ideal world, with 1 minute block times, that's 1440 every 24 hours.  However, due to variations in hash rate and/or difficulty, the actual block times can vary sometimes going several minutes for a new block and at other times you can get a couple in a minute.  Maybe if you averaged blocks over several hours you could get a closer time frame but even then, there could be a sudden rise or decrease in hash rate and thus difficulty that would then throw out those numbers.

Welcome to my ignore list?

lol.  Oh don't worry.  I'm sure it will get even worse as time goes on.  Better you focus on development as opposed to the drama that will come up even though I know it can be difficult to watch at times.  lol

Hey!!!!  Leave Spreadcoin alone!!  That poor little coin has a tiny community and isn't even on any exchanges yet which I've loved, not to mention it's been fun just CPU mining it with just the wallet.  lol

It's interesting how the Cloak guys would talk about just how much FUD etc would get spewed in their thread.  Even I was surprised by how much was going on in there when I was looking at it.  Seems like there's a new coin that will take the crown for the most FUD going on.  lol

Soooo.. reading a couple posts from you I thought you might be for real.  But here you say Hondo is gone.  And yet he just posted in the thread a short time ago.  And you also say the Cloak devs were working for Bob.  And yet Bob posted some PMs where a dev basically told him no to what he wanted and Bob also said he approached the Cloak devs 3 times and each time they rubuked him.  In fact, he posted that stuff in this thread.

So hey.  Do you have anything truthful to say?

All righty. Since longandshort was posting the IRC chat including some of the stuff I was asking, I figure I'll post my perspective for anyone that might actually care.

The conversation in the bitcoin channel was somewhat misleading and really didn't answer me satisfactory.  Frankly, it's not their job and, as longandshort posted, they don't really know if it can be implemented or not given the limited information presented.  They're also looking at it from the perspective of bitcoin.

Since I was mentioning Monero in there, one of their devs invited me into one of their channels where I was able to ask a few more questions.

Regarding the paper I posted that outlines how Chandran signatures can be traceable etc. Apparently it has not even been peer reviewed. So I'm left with the assumption that while it could be implemented, it would be questionable as to whether or not it would be sound.

So I was thinking about the whitepaper and what it actually said.  Two things stood out to me, the first that it was talking about CN and then about burning Stealthcoins to Stealthsend coins.  One of the key issues is the blockchain.  For example, CN and bitcoin blockchains are completely incompatible. In addition, trying to implement something like Chandran sigs into a bitcoin core would be a massive undertaking.  I mention the bitcoin core since it appears the source for Stealthcoin is based on that given the copyright notice although there's probably been some mods to it as well.  Either way, I simply don't see how Stealthsend could be added into the blockchain after the fact especially given the time frame.

Given all that, the only way I can see potentially having Stealthsend in the time frame outlined is if it was based on CN with its own blockchain or perhaps some sort of dual blockchain scheme.  That would sort of fit with the whitepaper talking about burning one for the other.  In addition, changing CN to use Chandran sigs would be a much easier task but as I said, whether or not it would be cryptographically sound would still be up for debate.

And with that, I'm done with this Chandran sigs/Stealthsend topic as I spent far too much time looking into something that the devs should have been more clear about.  Good luck to everyone.

I'll visit IRC to sort it out when I get a chance.  Got distracted today with the damn XST shit thanks to you.  lol

Keep in mind that all the other stuff, websites, reddit etc are done by others, not the actual dev, which is how it should be so that he can focus on actually coding the coin itself.  It's typical to get lots of other things going on like that while the actual coin is being worked on.  Regardless, a coin needs all those things and many more than we currently have as they're good to show continual progress outside of the actual coin itself, not to mention build an "ecosystem" around the coin that will sustain it long term.

As for "hype", that's always going to occur and you have to just sort of ignore it.  I could point out other coins that are 10x, 100x the price of this one that are actually nothing more than hype.  That's simply the way it is in the crypto world.

I know what you mean.  But hey, we all have bad days and occasionally "freak out" about things.  lol