Is there such a thing as a butthurt bull in a bull market? I think I am one of those. I am long term bullish. I know that Bitcoin will go up, way up. I know that I need more BTC. I have fiat ready. Yet, I still can't buy back in now, after that sell a couple of weeks ago, when 580 looked like the top of a dead cat bounce...  GAAAAAAAA........ You went full fiat? Yes, full fiat with my trading allotment. The sad thing, I thought I was being clever, having placed a number of limit orders, selling gradually on the way up, and it did look like 580 was going to be a top, but then everything went horribly wrong. At least you kept your LT stash. |
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Is there such a thing as a butthurt bull in a bull market? I think I am one of those. I am long term bullish. I know that Bitcoin will go up, way up. I know that I need more BTC. I have fiat ready. Yet, I still can't buy back in now, after that sell a couple of weeks ago, when 580 looked like the top of a dead cat bounce... GAAAAAAAA........ You went full fiat? |
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Je hebt in principe recht op een aparte behandeling van je "speculatieve" en je "goede-huisvader"-bitcoins, de vraag is alleen hoe je dat gaat bewijzen. Praktische schotten, zoals aparte wallets aanhouden, helpt al iets, nog beter zijn juridische schotten.
Voor je speculatieve bitcoins ga je dan een soort boekhouding moeten voeren, bestaat al Amerikaanse software voor denk ik. Je kijkt dat op het einde van het jaar wat je netto-winst was over dat jaar, die geef je aan.
Hey Cheme Alvast bedankt voor het antwoord. Weet je toevallig ook of je winsten die je "geherinvesteerd" hebt (dus opnieuw bitcoins mee aangekocht) ook moet aangeven (en er dan ook belastingen op moet betalen)? |
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I wonder if Colas really has no bitcoins. I tend to think he is being honest, but it baffles me that somebody who understands bitcoin as much as he does, doesn't put a little bit of money into it.
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#9 (It's a Ponzi scheme) -- I don't disagree that this is a myth, but the argument is poor. Bitcoin can't be a Ponzi scheme because it is 100% transparent and there is no operator. I think that many people use "Ponzi scheme" when they mean "pyramid scheme" because they don't know the difference. Bitcoin is not a pyramid scheme either.
Actually, the most you could accuse bitcoin of, is being a pump and dump imho. |
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I can only imagine the confusion of a bitcoin noob when he or she visits the forums, and is not only faced with the technical jargon about bitcoin, but all the meme-speak (and "obvious" trolling) too  . |
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starting posts: 1708
Bitcoin address: 1JDSvH5G1CLJmRGiDQoHJPQMgD7n2EC53J
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1JDSvH5G1CLJmRGiDQoHJPQMgD7n2EC53J
Posts: 1450
I have been running your add for over a month now, current post : 1707. Since it doesn't look like you will be paying anyone, I am removing my sig after this post. |
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chart looking pretty darn bullish (short term at least)
EDIT: the buildup from last few days looks bullish, but we have some resistance here from the downward tops since peak.
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I agree and I think that 2014 will be the year that Bitcoin finally breaks through as a means of payment. This was the year it got real mainstream attention, next year we will see massive adoption waves in terms of actual usage. That is obviously great news for the innovators among us who are just waiting to be able to spend bitcoins in more and more ways.
Is there a (credible) plan for the scaling issue? (I really should do my homework on this soon) Yeah. We all use LTC.  Everybody knows litecoin magically fixes every BTC issue  . |
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I agree and I think that 2014 will be the year that Bitcoin finally breaks through as a means of payment. This was the year it got real mainstream attention, next year we will see massive adoption waves in terms of actual usage. That is obviously great news for the innovators among us who are just waiting to be able to spend bitcoins in more and more ways.
Is there a (credible) plan for the scaling issue? (I really should do my homework on this soon) |
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On, Wednesday morning i lost 79852 litecoin + 156 bitcoins + 94500 dollars , all I had in my account at the time of increased volatility after the very fast progress of the crash left me unable to react
Holy f*cknuggets, that's a shitload of money. |
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If Dogecoin was so genius, Bitcoin could just incorporate it's algorithms or whatever, while maintaining all the advantages that Bitcoin already has (first mover, infrastructure, media attention, currency acceptance, etc.).
But it wouldn't be called Dogecoin, which is precisely why Dogecoin is such a great investment. It does have that intrinsic name value that no one can counterfeit. Very good observation..  Howdy y'all I still cant work out if its mean tot be Doggy Coin or Dodgy Coin....either way its pretty shit... Its Daugecoin. Either way it's so wow |
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BTChina up 95% from the low 30 hours ago. Seems legit.
seems like bitcoin Bitcoin scores high on the hot-crazy scale. |
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I am loving this guy more and more  . |
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every time I see people getting blinded by their own greediness my heart fills up with sadness....
What you say is blatantly false and you know it.
We had a glitch and we corrected it.
All your theories are just a flash in the pan.
But even if this was true, why the hell would you want to stab Bitfinex in the back?
What is the value of your ethic?
4000 LTC?
Don't you understand what a shame you are making of your reputation?
Don't you see that there must be a point where you stop being a shark and you understand we are a community and only by being nice to each others we can all be successful?
Please think twice before you reply to this post.
Think about what Bitfinex does for you and what you should be doing for Bitfinex.
Have a good day
Giancarlo
Bitfinex Team
Hi Giancarlo, I just wanted to say that some of us REALLY appreciate all you've done for the Bitcoin community... You've helped me out in the past when I've margin-ed myself up to stupid levels and got decimated. Most of us here understand software is never perfect... I'm wondering here if these kinds of situations can be mitigated in the future? perhaps the platform could freeze all positions temporarily if volatility gets out of hand? maybe bitfinex should increase it's fees and create some kind of reserve fund for situations like this??? Freezing all positions could be very dangerous as well (what if the market keeps going down or up after you freeze the positions, then a small number of unliquidatable positions turn into a huge number). Perhaps it would be interesting to do this if market bids or asks are very shallow compared to open margin positions and/or if the exchange rate deviates from other major exchanges in a big way. The conditions for such a freeze would of course need to be articulated very clearly and a long time in advance of implementation. |
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Specifiek voor België: geen vermogensbelasting of vermogensrendementsheffing, dus het louter bezit van bitcoin moet je niet aangeven.
Moet je de winst bij verkoop aangeven? Hier wordt het een pak onduidelijker: als je de verkoop hebt gerealiseerd als onderdeel van het normaal beheer van een privévermogen, dan hoef je niets aan te geven, aangenomen dat de fiscus akkoord gaat dat bitcoin "portefeuillewaarden" zijn, zoals andere beleggingen (aandelen, obligaties, enz.). Voor dat laatste zijn zeker goeie argumenten, maar voorlopig is het nog een vraagteken. M.i. kan de fiscus je gezien de onduidelijkheid in ieder geval niet straffen als je bitcoin inderdaad als portefeuillewaarden beschouwt en je niets aangeeft omdat je je als een "goed huisvader met bitcoins" hebt gedragen.
Ben je echter een "speculant" - en weeral weet niemand wat dat precies betekent - dan moet je wel belasting betalen @ 33% van je winst.
Tot slot, ben je een day-trader en draait heel je beroepsleven rond het aan- en verkopen van bitcoins, dan zit je met een beroepsinkomen belastbaar tot 50%.
Afdwingbaarheid van dit alles is weer een ander paar mouwen natuurlijk.
Enig idee hoe je in belgie belast zou worden als je met een kleine hoeveelheid van je bitcoins "speculeert" (waar ik vermoed dat het onder valt als je regelmatig wat verkoopt en terug aankoopt), en dan later ook wat extra verkoopt van een stash die je meer dan een jaar stilgehouden hebt? Mag je die laatste dan wel als "goede huisvader beheer" aanrekenen? En wat moet je juist aangeven van je "speculatieve" gedeelte? Alle fiatwinst die je op 31 december netto overhoudt, of elke winst die je ooit haalde (dus ook van het geld dat je eventueel terug in bitcoins gestoken hebt)? Ik neem aan dat daar bij aandelen etc. bepaalde regels voor gelden, maar heb dit nog nergens teruggevonden. |
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Damn, why did I sleep through all the action?
And more importantly, why didn't I place the low bids around $400 that I intended to put there? Didn't see us go down this fast...
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So the Chinese rule is for "third party payment providers" and not banks.
Where did you find this info? |
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Interesting, it shows the exact opposite of the long term charts, maybe trying to set a precedent for an inverse relationship between PM's and BTC? Gold parity was the breaking point, it'll be interesting to see how much more news tries to push an inverse relationship. Ok, PMs and bitcoin correlations are definitely interesting, but zerohedge (or one of the Tylers at least) can draw the most idiotic consequences sometimes in random noise. I don't remember the article, but in April boom they tried to correlate daily bitcoin movement with some minor macro trend, while there was much more relevant purely bitcoin related news going on, completely lost my respect for them back then. |
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