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9041  Other / Archival / Re: btt on: July 12, 2013, 01:42:51 PM
Avalon is taking the BFL route of coerced refunds, great.   Roll Eyes

"Accept our flexible definition of 'two weeks = Soon' or take back the money you lent us with no interest."

"Ya, that's what we thought.  Thanks for the free loan, suckers.  Now we're rich and famous but you get jack."

I vote to cancel and buy an early KnC Jupiter pre-order.  We have enough Avalons now and they are shady.
9042  Economy / Securities / Re: [LTC-GLOBAL] CIPHERMINE Industruial Cryptocoin Mining & High Perf. Computing on: July 12, 2013, 11:56:06 AM
Price up 20% on massive volume, including a 2200 share buy. 

IPO round 3 is complete!

Bitfuries are thus fully funded and in good shape for a bulk discount.

60 quad-core Xeons are set to mine PrimeCoins.

This is absolutely fabulous like Patsy and Adina!    Cool
9043  Economy / Securities / Re: [AMC]-The Official Active Mining Cooperative Discussion on: July 09, 2013, 03:41:24 AM


I just PM'd Ken and offered up the assistance of btct.co.  When the new issue is approved we would lock trading on AMC-PT and transfer over all the shares to the new issue.  It'd be painless for everyone involved.

Cheers.

Ken you need to take advantage of this, and bitfunder needs to take notice.. just sayin

I like painless! 

BF needs to do the same, because I can guarantee not all AMC shareholders have the Google Auth required for share transfers enabled.

9044  Economy / Securities / Re: [BitFunder] Diablo Mining Company [shifting gears] on: July 03, 2013, 02:45:00 AM
No dividends are being issued for June. All of it was used to buy back shares. It may have well been from your ask, but BF doesn't list order ownership.

This really surprising me... So I will transfer my shares today ,and I will send you my email address and BTC address used to received dividend from FC..
Can you tells me how to transfer the shares in BF to you? which users name you use? or we made it simple, you can just give me equivalent BTC by I set my ask order at the price same as PT shares in BF...which way you prefer?

This is a surprise to all of us who have been waiting patiently for our accumulated June AM dividends.

DMC's listing on Bitfunder says "Pays Dividends   Yes" so that should be complied with or changed to "Pays Dividends   No" or perhaps "Pays Dividends   Maybe, depends on how Diablo feels today."

Investors should be informed of such important executive decisions before they are enacted, not afterwards when it's too late.   Undecided

9045  Economy / Securities / Re: [AMC]-The Official Active Mining Cooperative Discussion on: July 03, 2013, 02:13:12 AM
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Springfield Underground is cost-effective, secure, adaptable and environmentally friendly commercial real estate located 100 feet below ground in Springfield, Missouri. Its unusual location shields tenants from virtually all man-made and natural disasters. And, even though it is rail-served and accessible by truck, it is a limited access facility and affords exceptional security. A constant temperature of 62 degrees ensures low, uniform climate control costs for our clients.



It's not Cheyenne Mountain, but should be sufficient for our needs.

Plot Twist: heat/noise/controversy/drama from AMC's mining awakens hibernating Silurians from their 100 million year slumber.  

Chaos ensues until UNIT restores order.   Shocked

9046  Economy / Securities / Re: [AMC]-The Official Active Mining Cooperative Discussion on: July 01, 2013, 11:10:14 PM
It's getting exciting isn't it, this could actually be the narrative of a second rate HBO movie.

Too much drama for a single movie.  Better make it an AMC mini-series!

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Next week on 'Lambs to the Slaughter' former antagonists steveioio and lolstate journey to Springfield MO, where dark secrets lurk deep underground in FriedKen's doomsday bunker.

Will they find that people who play jerks on the internet are actually lots of fun in real life, or will their previous differences drive them apart?

As they descend into the madness of pre-order mania, events force them to cooperate for mutual survival.  It turns out that FriedKen has more than a little surprise waiting...  And who is the mysteriously attractive women watching through dark glasses from afar?  Bitcoin Police, or something far more unpredictable and dangerous?
9047  Economy / Securities / Re: [BTC-TC and BF] MININGCO.ETF - Mining Company ETF on: July 01, 2013, 09:22:05 PM
I think the number one thing that helps mining assets maintain there value is the inclusion of some kind of reinvestment or growth.

Give me your thoughts on a motion to remove the clause "where the equipment is owned by shareholders" and instead use "where the asset includes a growth/reinvestment fund for the purchase of new equipment on an ongoing basis."

I want to get the wording correct. Let me know what you think.

While we are talking about motions. What about our own stock split. MiningCo.ETF has always been a "higher" priced fund. But is 1+ BTC too high? Would you vote for a split? What ratio? 2:1?  4:1?  10:1?

Motion 1:  Yes!  Mining hardware becomes obsolete with increasing frequency, but growth funds remain forever green.  ADDICTION may be adding such a fund to their offering.  AMC could be the next AM, or at least play AMD to their Intel.  Also, 100TH shows great promise.   (Yes it's a bond, but still.  Because Bitfury.)

Motion 2:  Yes!  10:1 split is fine.  Lower the barrier to entry and we'll have more volume.  Being able to cash out as/when necessary is a great feature.  Helping our DRIPs get traction with more granularity adds value as well.

Motion 3:  Yes!  We should buy Carnth several beers of high quality as a token of our gratitude for a job well done.

Feature request:  make another version of the spreadsheet that auto-updates in real time.  Our NAV is through the roof ATM but can I be arsed to math it myself?  No.  Ain't nobody got time for that.   Cheesy
9048  Economy / Securities / Re: The coming flash crash in AMC on: June 30, 2013, 08:31:00 PM
2010 is an impressively early signup date.  Good to know Ken is a very early adapter, way ahead of the curve kind of guy.  He may have paid for our Avalons with his cheap old coins.

In contrast, btc megamouth has been here all of 4 months.   Roll Eyes

Ken has contributed to the community by giving AM some badly needed competition, while providing us Joe Sixcoin types with an excellent investment opportunity.  I've already doubled my money a couple of times and am now playing entirely with the money given to me by scared little speculators waving their weak hands around. 

In contrast, btc megamouth's main contribution is to ride our coattails with yet another crummy cafepress t-shirt.

I support family businesses.  The proprietors have extra incentives to succeed and benefit from dealing with less HR issues. 

6 Avalons, 20k chips, and a lot of capital represent a substantial amount of "substance."  Certainly more than AM began with and more than btc megamouth's t-shirts will ever amount to.

No risk, no reward; if you can't take the heat GTFO the kitchen.   Cool
9049  Other / Archival / Re: btt on: June 30, 2013, 06:17:39 PM
Getting real tired of this variance and lost blocks.

This variance-avoidance is killing Bitcoin, this is why we have a handful of large mining pools instead of many small ones.

And, you know, it is way easier to attack a handful of large ones...

Why do you even care about variance? It will all average out over course of month or so.

Do you have some kind of disorder like ADHD? Or do you use mining revenue to pay for your daily expenses?

This is just asinine. You get a bit less today, but a bit more tomorrow. Who cares?

Wow, look at you.  The white knight of variance, here to stop me from "killing Bitcoin."  Impressive!
9050  Economy / Securities / Re: [AMC]-The Official Active Mining Cooperative Discussion on: June 30, 2013, 01:43:24 AM

Now where is your proof that you can afford 250k shares?  How about you start with proof that you own any shares?

Where I come from, Ent, one's word is one's bond. Clearly, you are unaccustomed to this. Not surprising really. it is unusual on internet forums where kids go to die.

Now, for the last time:

  CALL AMC 250k. Your Strike. European or US.

We will then contact John for escrow and take it from there.

Oh Snap.  It's On like Donkey Kong! 

9051  Other / Archival / Re: btt on: June 30, 2013, 01:40:32 AM
Glad to hear we haven't lost anything, but 3% isn't that "stiff" if it covers orphaned blocks.

3% is worth it to me for the peace of mind and easy/predictable accounting.  We got lucky this week, but that will even out eventually.
9052  Other / Archival / Re: btt on: June 30, 2013, 12:04:54 AM
Mining revenue was down a bit due to the monster block bitparking has been crunching on for the past 40hrs and counting.

Getting real tired of this variance and lost blocks.  Who else is ready to change to 50btc's 3% pay-per-share? 

It would be very nice to know ahead of time and easily verify exactly how many BTC/24hr we should be earning, instead of futzing around with multiple crappy pools and hoping it all somehow evens out.
9053  Economy / Goods / Re: 750ml Colloidal Silver - $29 on: June 29, 2013, 11:57:42 PM
You claim I say people should use colloidal silver because there are no RCTs, rather my point has always been you are exactly as ignorant as you claim I am for making a conclusion without RCTs. Who is using a strawman? Also please stop using these fallacy arguments until you learn the definitions of them. Your lack of understanding of what they mean is blaring and getting pretty annoying. By the way the fact that he wasn't actually using colloidal silver, but silver salts is not a straw man. I didn't reply because your posts are the same refractory drivel as before.
I can say the same for you. Blah blah blah big phrama... ramble ramble RCTs.

You may "say the same for" TECSHARE, but the difference is that he has facts and logic on his side, whereas you have neither.

Do you possess the rudimentary background in biology and basic analytical skills necessary to process this latest demonstration of silver's efficacy?

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Silver makes antibiotics thousands of times more effective - http://www.nature.com/news/silver-makes-antibiotics-thousands-of-times-more-effective-1.13232

Collins and his team found that silver — in the form of dissolved ions — attacks bacterial cells in two main ways: it makes the cell membrane more permeable, and it interferes with the cell’s metabolism, leading to the overproduction of reactive, and often toxic, oxygen compounds. Both mechanisms could potentially be harnessed to make today’s antibiotics more effective against resistant bacteria, Collins says.

Many antibiotics are thought to kill their targets by producing reactive oxygen compounds, and Collins and his team showed that when boosted with a small amount of silver these drugs could kill between 10 and 1,000 times as many bacteria. The increased membrane permeability also allows more antibiotics to enter the bacterial cells, which may overwhelm the resistance mechanisms that rely on shuttling the drug back out.

That disruption to the cell membrane also increased the effectiveness of vancomycin, a large-molecule antibiotic, on Gram-negative bacteria — which have a protective outer coating. Gram-negative bacterial cells can often be impenetrable to antibiotics made of larger molecules.

“It’s not so much a silver bullet; more a silver spoon to help the Gram-negative bacteria take their medicine,” says Collins.

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Silver Enhances Antibiotic Activity Against Gram-Negative Bacteria
Science Translational Medicine June 2013:Vol. 5, Issue 190
http://stm.sciencemag.org/content/5/190/190ra81

A declining pipeline of clinically useful antibiotics has made it imperative to develop more effective antimicrobial therapies, particularly against difficult-to-treat Gram-negative pathogens. Silver has been used as an antimicrobial since antiquity, yet its mechanism of action remains unclear. We show that silver disrupts multiple bacterial cellular processes, including disulfide bond formation, metabolism, and iron homeostasis. These changes lead to increased production of reactive oxygen species and increased membrane permeability of Gram-negative bacteria that can potentiate the activity of a broad range of antibiotics against Gram-negative bacteria in different metabolic states, as well as restore antibiotic susceptibility to a resistant bacterial strain.

We show both in vitro and in a mouse model of urinary tract infection that the ability of silver to induce oxidative stress can be harnessed to potentiate antibiotic activity. Additionally, we demonstrate in vitro and in two different mouse models of peritonitis that silver sensitizes Gram-negative bacteria to the Gram-positive–specific antibiotic vancomycin, thereby expanding the antibacterial spectrum of this drug. Finally, we used silver and antibiotic combinations in vitro to eradicate bacterial persister cells, and show both in vitro and in a mouse biofilm infection model that silver can enhance antibacterial action against bacteria that produce biofilms. This work shows that silver can be used to enhance the action of existing antibiotics against Gram-negative bacteria, thus strengthening the antibiotic arsenal for fighting bacterial infections.

FYI, a UTI is an internal application.  In case you don't know where the urinary tract is located, and still feel like clinging to the "external use only" fallacy. 

Thanks again for your interest in Sacred Silver, the only colloidal silver product produced exclusively for the Bitcoin community.  Proving your objections have no basis in reality is important to us, and we look forward to further demonstrating/crushing/curing your embarrassing ignorance in the future.
9054  Economy / Securities / Re: [AMC]-The Official Active Mining Cooperative Discussion on: June 29, 2013, 11:10:26 PM
Not interested in buying back until that VMC shady thing is scrapped or merged into AMC.

Not interested in buying back until that BitFountain shady thing is scrapped or merged into ASICMINER.

See what I did ^^there?   Cheesy
9055  Economy / Securities / Re: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It on: June 29, 2013, 11:12:31 AM
(namecoin is) the only existing alternative to the ICANN monopoly.

No, there are many, many other ICANN alternatives. They are all useless, just like Namecoin. Why? Because regular people can't access them. It's not reasonable to ask everyone on the entire internet to install plugins if they want to access your domains. Namecoin will never be a serious alternative to DNS.

"Regular people" don't use Bitcoin.  This community is a mecca for early adopters, not "everyone on the entire internet."

How are you any more useful than those saying 'there are many dollar alternatives, they are all useless just like Bitcoin?'  
9056  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [2Th]Ozcoin Pooled Mining |DGM 1%|PoT 2%|Stratum+VarDiff port 80 on: June 29, 2013, 01:17:25 AM
Yeah, that will explain everything. This pool could be 10x times bigger. But, NMC, why bother... no?

Good luck guys.

NMC is a waste of time and effort.

It's an abandoned project that has failed and was never meant to be a currency.

It caused problems for EVERY pool that has ever implemented Merged Mining.

And it is worthless.

But hey, besides that it's just great.

Sam

BTC Guild (the largest and most advanced pool in the world) added merged mining for NMC just a couple of weeks ago.  There was much rejoicing.  So much for "abandoned."

NMC has the third highest cryptocoin market cap behind LTC, a position it has held for many months.  So much for "worthless" and "failed."

But keep repeating your baseless, demonstrably false assertions ad nauseum.  You might get lucky someday and find them to be true!   Wink

Until then, we'll be amused by your embarrassing confusion between actual reality and wishful thinking.    Smiley
9057  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Group Buy]12 KNCminer Jupiter's 15 Sold [Closed] Jupiter Pool on: June 28, 2013, 06:06:56 AM
+2 Bitfunder.

My shares in another KnC group buy have already more than doubled in value, thanks to their IPO.

I was able to sell half and cover my initial investment.   Cool
9058  Economy / Securities / Re: [BTC-TC and BF] MININGCO.ETF - Mining Company ETF on: June 28, 2013, 03:19:52 AM
There's nothing wrong with being heavy in cash.  It's good to have BTC ready when an opportunity emerges.  Wait for the crash coming SoonTM in about two weeks.

I suggest we re-balance by taking some profit on BASIC and getting more GMP.  Sell this blow-off top and go where the growth is!
9059  Economy / Securities / Re: [AMC]-The Official Active Mining Cooperative Discussion on: June 28, 2013, 12:05:59 AM

There are so many insecurities, man-sized holes, and pure 'makes no sense' holes in the entire 'business' and it's relationships with other companies I don't even know where to start. I am 100% totally jealous of the company owners that have managed to secure their retirement in a few weeks. Buying shares @ current value? HELL NO!

I'm all ears. What are your precise objections?
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Precise? Oh well how about:

100 Fast-Hash-80's**    @ 80 GH/s each for a total of: 8 TH/s
Specifications: 110nm 282 MH/s chip 75 chips per board 4 boards per unit
Estimated retail value @ ~$6,000 each for a total of $600,000
(Estimated to be delivered August 2013)

We are on schedule to receive 62 of these machine by the end of August.  We have 20,000 chips on order from
Avalon for these machines.

Now, I think you are a competitor just trying to spread FUD about AMC, I have looked at some of your
post and you seem to be tied to KnC as your forum name suggest "TheSwede75". and this:

[Group Buy #2] 1 KNC Miner Saturn 175 GH/s miner + hosting (10 shares) CLOSED

which is your group buy for KNC equipment.  Case Closed.

I googled "EASIC + ORSOC" and discovered

-since 2006, ORSoC resells eASIC products (is KnC using them???)
-eASIC has 51-200 employees and was founded in 1999, backed by multiple Silicon Valley VC super-heavyweights
-ORSoC has 11-50 employess and was founded in 2004

I've in several KnC group buys, but it looks like AMC will give them a run for the money.

Vbs, thanks for the awesome, sexy chip pr0n!   Grin
9060  Economy / Securities / Re: [BitFunder] - ADDICTION - KNCMiner buyin! on: June 26, 2013, 09:58:08 PM
How many orders are ahead of ADDICTION in line?
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