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921  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 05, 2017, 03:35:17 PM
I have a feeling that Goldman Sachs is painting the wall exactly how they announced it, just to announce a longer lasting bear market based on their previous forecast "credibility".  In that case I am ready to buy the dips.

Goldman Sacks?!... Credibility?!... On this forum?!... What are you blabbering about?

922  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 05, 2017, 02:53:48 PM
Interesting article on possible Bitfinex price spoofing.

Author is very disappointed that an exchange like Bitfinex can function without perfect relations with and blessing from banks.
923  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 04, 2017, 01:33:27 PM
It's not BCash, it's Bitcoin Cash.

You big blockers can call your abortion fork coin whatever you want to call it.

We "Bitcoiners" will refer to it as BCash. Or shitcoin clone. Whichever.

I think Bash sounds good.

I think Bonus Cash sound even better!
924  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 04, 2017, 12:02:14 PM
A funny thing happened on the way to the bullion market:

Provident Metals had stopped taking Bitcoin as payment!  That was a shock, so I had to open an account with jmbullion.com who still did.  I have not checked back with Provident to see if they have changed their minds, but for whatever reason they stopped taking BTC

Interestingly, you used to receive the max discount for using bitcoin on JM Bullion (same as paying with check or bank transfer), but now it's more expensive to pay with BTC there lol.  So bullion dealers no longer like people paying with BTC for whatever reason even though they stated people who purchased using bitcoin spent more money than normal customers.

Roachy, you've lost your mind! Take a break and visit a doctor!

Not only bullion but every bitcoin related market exercised extra caution last couple of days. We all know the reason. They'll resume Bitcoin payments tomorrow if not today!
925  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 04, 2017, 09:57:53 AM

What this suggest is that at times when BCC is more profitable to mine and the hash rate migrates to BCC, the average block time for BTC will increase significantly and BTC's already slow and expensive transactions will become much more so.  


"Profitable to mine" means you have to have buyers. If you haven't noticed, everyone is trying to dump their BCC (BCH? whatever) at any price and trade for more BTC.


Having a price on an exchange implies there is somebody willing to buy.  Your argument is invalid, nice try.

Somebody willing to buy from somebody unable to sell. What argument is that? Nice try really...
926  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 03, 2017, 12:03:19 PM
No i didn't !!! i just followed your instructions and again Balance: 0 .......
how it's possible?

Can you check the history tab of the electron cash wallet and maybe PM me a screenshot? Let me take a look at it. Also, if there are any sent transactions, right click it and click "details" and share the screenshot in PM. Thanks.

There appears to be something very wrong with the Electron Cash wallet (the real one/not the .net scam one)
Yesterday I did some transactions with it and all was fine, this morning all the transactions had disappeared.
I checked with a block chain explorer and nothing dodgy has happened, all the transactions are there, and no new ones.
But, I'm gonna stay clear of it, and am currently loading up a full node.

You were warned many times on this thread to not use Electron Cash scam!
927  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 02, 2017, 09:36:29 PM
BTC We'll be living like kings! BTC

Hope Ver and Wu have enough bitcoins to support BCH price for 1 or 2 weeks.
928  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 02, 2017, 06:48:17 PM
It currently stands at $460 BCH  / 2700 BTC at Kraken, and $720 BCH  /2700 BTC at Bitterx.   Such a high price is definitely unexpected.

I've expected even more provided nobody can sell. Big blocktards can drive price as high as they want. Onlly consideration is if they can sell what they've bought to Ver and Wu.
929  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 02, 2017, 05:26:41 PM
As for actual value,  there is no other value other than somebody willing to buy them from you, and this is true for both BTC and BCH.

There is big difference! Everybody is willing to buy BTC. Only Ver and Wu are willing to buy BCH. Hope that clears your confusion.
930  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 02, 2017, 12:52:31 PM
BCC is going to same value as BTC? BCC = BTC value soon ?

BCH could go x10 or x100 up. No limit there. At the moment you're allowed only to buy. You can't sell. But price will fall off a cliff once exchanges assign BCH addresses to their customer accounts.
931  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 02, 2017, 12:44:19 PM
BCC price driven up because of attracting more miners over there ?

This will be played many times. Chinese mining cartel will change sides to push BCH exchange rate in different directions fore running market. People know that and effect will be minimal and actually the opposite mainly because many will attempt to fore run the forerunners.
932  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 02, 2017, 11:52:10 AM
Why are bigblocktards so dumb?

So much BCH hatred.  The blocks just want to propogate and they're met with a hate movement by Marcus & friends.



uh oh.... something must be wrong when r0ach starts preaching peace and understanding

Definitely something is very wrong with Roachy. He will embrace even central banks if they can kill Bitcoin.
933  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 02, 2017, 10:26:57 AM

Thanks for sharing that. Very useful.

So, in a line... You can sell BCC at ViaBTC but you can't withdraw your bitcoins!


they want 6 or 20 bch confirmations before you can pull anything you've traded it for off. i'm not sure which figure. seems fair enough to me.

Hmm very twisted logic. If BCH confirmations are the problem then BCH deposits should be limited not bitcoin withdraws. Limiting bitcoin withdrawals means this exchange is running fractional reserve on bitcoin! It is very dangerous to keep your bitcoins there!

934  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 02, 2017, 10:10:13 AM
Any people here who got their BCH/BCC from their cold storage wallets and sold them already on exchanges?  Grin I wonder if its availeble yet.

BCH is not available for deposits on any exchange that I'm aware of.

Kraken and Bittrex both gave BCH for BTC holders at the moment of the fork, but it's been impossible to deposit BCH from wallets yet.

ViaBTC accepts deposits.

I registered at ViaBTC yesterday to dump all my BCH @ 0.15. I used Coinomi on my Android to swipe the private key of my now empty BTC wallet (transferred all my funds before exposing my private key) and to send the Bitcoin Crash to ViaBTC.

It took all night to get enough confirmations to be able to trade the BCC. They are having a hard time mining blocks. Set my alarm for every couple of hours to check. My transaction of yesterday evening now still only has 4 confirmations.

Can't get out my BTC just yet. ViaBTC wants more confirmations on the BCC transaction before I can. Many people are having the same issue, but I read of one person on Reddit who was able to withdraw after getting enough confirmations, so I'll sit and wait a bit more before I go the long route, by exchanging BTC -> CNY -> LTC and try and withdraw the LTC to Kraken.

I want to sincerely thank the European Central Bank for it's invaluable help yesterday evening, I was really stuck and the tip on Coinomi (and ViaBTC) made this one of the most profitable nights I have had in crypto.



Thanks for sharing that. Very useful.

So, in a line... You can sell BCC at ViaBTC but you can't withdraw your bitcoins!

It looks to me like a Chinese BCC trap for your bitcoins?

935  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 02, 2017, 07:45:03 AM
Electrum isn't supporting BCC. The only way in is through Electron.

haha... There we go! Yet another swindler exposed!



Not in so many words, but https://electrum.org/bcc2.txt
Quote
"Electron Cash" is a fork of Electrum for Bitcoin Cash. Electron Cash
is not endorsed by Electrum. It is open source, and binaries
(executables files) are available for Windows, OSX and
Android. However, when you run binaries instead of source code, you
have no guarantee that they match the source code. This is why wallet
binaries are usually signed by developers. A digital signature engages
the responsability of the person who signs.

The person who distributes the Electron Cash binaries has decided to
remain anonymous, and uses the fake name "Jonald Fyookball" in order
to sign Electron Cash binaries. Thus, if these binaries contain code
that is designed to steal your bitcoins, the author of the theft will
be anonymous and walk away safely with your funds.

This danger is exacerbated by the fact that the default behaviour of
Electron Cash is to silently copy all your Electrum wallets into its
own directory. Thus, if you run Electron Cash on a machine where you
previously used Electrum, all your pre-existing wallets will be
available in Electron Cash, and you will only need to enter your
password in order to expose your bitcoins to potential theft.

Therefore, users who want to run the Electron Cash binaries should do
it on a separate machine, that does not have their Bitcoin wallet.



Well, thank you for proving my point that ElectronCash is a swindle designed specifically to steal your bitcoin privkeys.
936  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 02, 2017, 07:33:32 AM
Electrum isn't supporting BCC. The only way in is through Electron.

haha... There we go! Yet another swindler exposed!

937  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 02, 2017, 07:23:33 AM
I'm waiting for a wallet that isn't maintained by jonald_fyookball. ElectronCash my Aunt Fanny.  Roll Eyes

ElectronCash is a swindle made specifically to steal your bitcoins.
Get the latest 2.9 version of Electrum instead!
https://electrum.org/#download


You can't get the fork coins without the cracked wallet. As far as I know a new version of the official client won't help.

What do you mean by "cracked" wallet?
938  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 02, 2017, 07:11:54 AM
I'm waiting for a wallet that isn't maintained by jonald_fyookball. ElectronCash my Aunt Fanny.  Roll Eyes

ElectronCash is a swindle made specifically to steal your bitcoins.
Get the latest 2.9 version of Electrum instead!
https://electrum.org/#download
939  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 02, 2017, 06:55:23 AM
Any exchange supplying their customers with BCC/BCH deposit addresses?


ViaBTC. Did you split yours already?

Not yet. Still waiting for the BCC/BCH network to get stable. I'm grateful to Ver and Wu for generous free money drop.

Price of BCC/BCH is not yet indicative as we can't deposit it to exchanges, but if we add it to bitcoin price we actually have new ATH!


940  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 02, 2017, 06:36:46 AM
Any exchange supplying their customers with BCC/BCH deposit addresses?
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