See how they run when you put the real spotlight on them.

They don't like open challenges?

Run away

Those are some of the most damning posts regarding the DT system I have ever read. This will be surely referenced for future use.

Well this post is highly insightful. However, it would seem that OGnasty has recently had a rethink on this matter?  him and lauda seem to have traded some red trust removal. This is great for the individuals but places the entire forum at greater risk. This is a VERY bad move from OGnasty. I wonder what has caused this 180 on lauda?  How soon before Tman and owlcatz remove their red ?  can't do it all in one go since that would appear too colluding. I wonder if this came as part of the deal.

Perhaps I am not accustomed to dealing with people as stupid as you are. I have already stated that your double standards are contained within your posts. Try to read and understand what I am telling you. It has nothing to do with reporting. Your straw men are nothing other than an annoyance.

Theymos has NOT said anything about our behavior. If you are referring to cryptohunters limited interaction with Theymos you will note that Theymos was observably incorrect on several points that can be clearly demonstrated. Unless one has invented a brand new definition of scamming that we are not aware of in relation to lauda and xcoin.  We believe Theymos is not as versed as others here are with the alt section, and is lacking in lots of back ground knowledge on several individuals that now infest meta.

He likely has limited time and is not a real student of this alt board to the level others are. His council to cryptohunter was based upon a metric that is also gamed. The deletion of cryptohunters posts after analysis looked to be a special case (they were not irrelevant or off topic) but could have been wise since he wanted to directly shut down lauda's defamation of hostfat quickly, and preferred not to become embroiled in a highly relevant, on topic debate that hinged on precedents and back ground information that demonstrated laudas claim hostfat should be removed (with no evidence provided by lauda) need to be treated with caution and the reasons as to why that caution would be prudent (plus the evidence and observable instances required) also similar precedents for similar scenarios. We notice cryptohunter raised 3 sensible topics to understand permitted flow after this which nobody was interested in discussing. Cryptohunters posts there without direct intervention by Theymos would have been very beneficial to the reader if he was to gain the optimal insight into the situation. Any debate on that should be conducted elsewhere but we would welcome it.

There is no "behavior" other than pushing for a transparent and fair environment that treats each member equally. That would surely gain Satoshi's blessing. That is far more important than pleasing anyone else that does not want to fight for that kind of environment.

So to just shut you up once and for all  let us place you a few challenges.

1. present the instances of incorrect information that we have presented.
2. present the instances that demonstrate an agenda other than fighting for a fair and transparent system for all members, that you can locate in our own post history.
3. present some instances of your own original thought provoking posts that made any difference to this board since you joined. So we can examine if you are even worth our time. If you are just an low functioning shit poster then please accept you will not have the capacity to fully engage with us in debate.
4. state that when we investigate your own post history we will not find anything that demonstrates you are a liar or a scammer or observably untrustworthy in financial matters ?
5. explain why "the vast majority" of liars , scammers, trust abusers, and their colluding pals seem to all be spamming fortune jack gambling sigs all over the board. (that includes you)
6. why are you such a failure that you need to spam a sig after all of these years or are you just greedy?

After that then get back on topic or leave the thread.

Could not agree more. Looks like a strange deal. Trading the mutual removal of legitimate warnings about scammers can rightly been seen as an irresponsible move.

I don't see how someone SO SURE that lauda was a scammer and liar can suddenly become unsure? I mean if you are sure enough of scamming or lying (there is concrete evidence for lauda both lying and scamming) then removing legitimate red in red trust removal trade is irresponsible bordering on untrustworthy.

There is no kissing and making up with observable liars and scammers. I am sure OG knows this.  We see no evidence of the claims you are making.  There is no capitulation on our part. We don't befriend scammers and liars for the sake of an easy time here.

All we notice here is a bunch of observable shit posters spamming their sigs.

@TheNewAnon135246

sorry that you're too observably stupid to understand the very sensible explanation we gave you, that you don't seem to be offer a rebuttal too.

When we have an observable instance(s) that clearly demonstrates for example lauda is a liar and scammer, we reserve EVERY right to call them by the title lauda the liar and scammer when ever we see fit, It is OPTIMAL for the reader to view their posts furnished with that highly relevant and important background information.  The same for the sickly double standards smarmacist who loves lecturing on trolling, financially motivated shit posting and other things they have been found guilty of themselves. The same for anyone we choose to rename basis upon observable instances in their post history.

We notice also your double standards that you are not lecturing those people on adjusting peoples usernames with 0 evidence to support their own alterations.  We notice when we pointed it out to you, you tried to divert from the obvious double standards you employ to make some kind of " i don't wish to troll but here i am trolling" kind of moronic public demonstration of your own stupidity.

We notice that you are so fucking dumb and observable bent on sig spamming and colluding with your other observably corrupt fortune jack sig spamming friends, that you don't see to notice other members on this thread using images of disabled people to troll with? 

Can you imagine what a complete loser you obviously must be to need to spam a gambling sig after all the years you have been here?

@tman

We notice the "boss" actually goes as far as to observable "DISTRUST" you and has excluded you from his DT list. So there is some hope for Theoden as yet.

We need no approval from any person that stands against a transparent and fair environment for all.

@yoshie who? - sorry you post isn't clear, that could be likely due to the fact you're not able to convey the small and irrelevant points you embarrass yourself with when trying to beg for merit scraps whilst spamming your sig. Although, usually, if we notice irrelevant merit begging shit posters  (you) "agreeing" I usually notice their support guarantees the point is invalid or completely idiotic.

I think nutildah described perfectly well why ANYONE  (not him though) should have red trust for selling or buying their accounts

Start reading here

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=789658.msg9060640#msg9060640

I mean someone who says it is EVIL to sell their account would not try and sell their account (or sell it we don't know) would they??

I mean surely 0.3BTC for turning EVIL is not worth it?

I mean surely someone who assumes that sold accounts are only going to be used for evil and scamming should be on DT1 with no red trust after they sell or tried to sell their own account?? lol

Double Standards are the best bit about DT. Let's called it DS1 ?  

Lauda said  "there is nothing we can say that would persuade him to give nutildah red trust" ??  sounds legit haha  sums up DT perfectly. You can show them evidence of their DT pals lying, scamming, trying to extort people, escrow shady behavior?  they simply will not give each other red trust.

It is brilliant you get on DT you can scam and lie and extort then you just get all your other DT pals to look the other way. If people speak out about it you red trust them and get your pals to add more red trust because that way people will assume they are scammers and not listen to their warnings.

It's really fun. You just have to be DIRTY enough to get on DT1 because honest people are not allowed onto DT1. Those giving out all the merits need to be sure they are giving them to people that will be complicit and let them keep abusing the trust system.  

I hope this explained clearly why you  have red trust and nutildah will NEVER get any red trust.  Thanks for reading.

Okay, well in that case, we no longer accuse you of double standards.

The voice of all of those that want a transparent fair environment that treats each member equally is a we. We speak for all of those that want to be treated fairly and equally.

I'm not saying a BAD word about you, that does not go far enough. I am simply stating that the vast majority of your 12000 posts are one or two liner shit posts, memes and sports betting crap ? that looks to be an observable fact. You are a shit poster. That is all your capacity allows you to be. That is not a bad thing, you just need to recognize this and realize you are not deserving of 600 merits or 60 merits or really hardly 6 merits.

I see you and your bunch deriding newbies for making posts of far greater quality than your average contributions.

You do not have the capacity to be a merit source. How can such a person even recognize real value in a post?

You are a trust abuser, it is there in red and white   Now that is a very bad and very damaging thing. You are devaluing the trust score and therefore facilitating real scammers.

Now go and make me a nice cup of tea.

Nonsense ? or observable instances?

We can delete any persons quote. Do not refer to us as cryptohunter again without proof. We are not an alt of anyone. Not that this diversion in anyway detracts from the points we are making. Please focus on presenting evidence to debunk our central point: You are a garbage shit poster trust abuser with 600 merits that look like you earned for posting pure crap.

You are an active shit posters since 2014 that is true, anyone can look at your post history. Let's ask you again.

1. why are such a huge of your posts of the 12000 all 1 or 2 liners speculating on price moves? these would be classed as pure shit posting now. Pluse the rest are made up of junk about sports betting and memes?

2. why can you not provide ANY examples of your original thought provoking posts for examination? AT ALL?? WTF 600 + merits for what?

3. you are a trust abuser

4. can you provide some achievements where you can demonstrate you made a real difference??

5. THE COMMUNITY?? do you mean about 10-15  other observably untrustworthy individuals including liars and scammers? that is your community?


You are a waste of board resources and largely net negative. Your abuse of the trust system is glaring, and your lack of ability to create any posts of real quality or have made any achievements of note in all of these years is embarrassing (for you).

Now just face it. You contributions here are garbage. You brought this spot light to yourself by abusing trust, and constantly supporting those that are observably liars and scammers.

There will be no remaining silent until trust abusers are prevented from using red trust to silence whistle blowers or are black listed. Red trust is for SCAMMERS not to be used as a weapon to silence those that present observable truthful instances pertaining to your pasts.

LTC shitposter you came looking for trouble not us. You are an easy target since you have no redeeming qualities at all. You do not have the capacity to provide valuable content. Get back to selling clothes or making cups of tea for your office superiors.

I am now deleting ANY posts that do not bring evidence and observable instances to support their opinions.


LFC bitcoin is a pure shit poster. Please study his entire post history it is GARBAGE.  1000's of posts are just 1 liners or 2 that guess on the movement of BTC. The others are memes and sports betting crap. The remaining are low level junk. Opinions largely unsupported by any evidence of observable instances. Mostly politically derived absolute crap.

The idiot can not provide any examples of some original thought inspiring posts at all from 1000's ? and all of that merit.

Theymos made TMAN a merit source so I would not use that as some form of proof you can make worthy contributions here yourself. Another total shit poster.

No, you are just a liar and scammer as we have just demonstrated.  

You are great at making straw men.  Your pals are those you let get away with things you red trust others for. Got it now? Not everyone you do not tag. Surely you didn't think that would be acceptable as an answer. Try harder scammer.

So what about your lies and scamming? what's the excuse and why should you not have red trust for that?  Let's hear your explanation.

You tag others who present observable instances demonstrating your scamming and lying?  that is not what red trust is for.

You have stated you will keep trust abusing, so we will keep demonstrating that you are an observable liar, scammer, and trust abuser. We have nothing to lose by doing so.



 

I don't see your evidence that we are an alt of anyone ?

We DO SEE that you will not deny that you are a liar and scammer. Since the evidence is there in black and white. I guess there can be no denying it.

Why do you not have a red tag?? Red tags are for scammers you clearly are a scammer?

Why do you think you can give people red trust because they say they will invite others to investigate your past?  

How does an observable scammer not get red trust?

Persons who say they will encourage others to review the past of observable scammers are given red trust by those scammers??

How does that work?

Thanks for confirming you will continue to abuse the trust system and pay no heed to Theymos.

You wish to keep abusing red trust and you will continue to keep abusing it.  

I see the only option is to black list you and any other person that wishes to abuse red trust.

I would also black list any DT that refuses to give an observable liar and scammer red trust given the observable evidence  in this thread combined with all of the other Financially Motivated schemes you seem to be linked to. You must be the most dangerous scammer on this board.

@LFC shit posting bot

Looks like double standards.  Complaining that account sellers are "apparently scammers"

Ignores his pal nutildah calling people EVIL for selling their accounts and claiming they can be used to scam



Then decides to by his own perception facilitate scamming by selling his own account

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1622642.msg16312368#msg16312368


A lot of these DT members are observably clearly untrustworthy when it comes to money. Why the fuck are they on DT?

Haha I see so he can post the picture and infer that is me? I am not allowed to say that is his mother? I see a future DT members here. Great double standards.

Nice attempt at a diversion.

I see no admission of any such thing nice attempt to divert. But enough side tracking let's discuss your lying and scamming and using red trust to silence people who point out the truth you are observably a liar and scammer.

Let's keep to YOUR PAST. No diverting scammer.

SO WITH YOUR POCKETS STUFFED WITH DARK COINS THERE WAS NO PREMINE BECAUSE YOU WERE ON THE LAUNCH HEY???

Look at the people here crying to keep the power to give red tags to anyone that presents observable instances of their previous behaviors.

Sorry but scam tags for SCAMMERS ONLY. Obviously EXTORTIONISTS and those MESSING with escrow funds should also get a strong look at.

EDIT - lauda?? where have you gone? we were going to debate your lying and scamming? but you seem to have vanished?

That sounds like you are reaching and guessing? We can discuss your theories later, let's stick to the hard evidence that is observable. We are not an alt of anyone.

Where as we have observable instances of you lying and scamming?


Here you are LYING for financial gain. Trying to scam investors into believing there was no instamine??  You are a liar and a scammer.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=560138.msg7535561#msg7535561

there was an instamine and the project dev offered a 2 000 000 000 usd (peak) to compensate those miners that were shut out when the instamine.

You always have been since the start. It does not surprise me at all that you are now trying to extort people and shut them down with red trust.

You should have a red tag.  Lying for financial gain is scamming. You are a scammer.

You are using red trust to silence people presenting instances from your past.

In light of your natural scamming and lying behavior it makes the extortion attempt

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1764757.0

We think the escrow details of you possibly moving 3000 BTC and profiting from the fork should be made transparent and open.


Why are you applying red trust to people who simply say they will investigate your post history if you have NOTHING TO HIDE??

You are the scammer here, you should have red trust.

I will settle for 10 only bring them.

Merit merit merit - the sign of a shit poster.

Your posts are garbage. I scanned 1000's of your shit posts. Anyone can verify this for themselves.

Really? can you present your strong case that I am a scammer because I can present observable instances where you have

1. Lied for financial gain (scammed)
2. Trust abused the system, and given red trust to individuals for them merely stating they will encourage others to examine your post history
3. Been STRONGLY implicated in an extortion scheme


We will welcome a full debate with such an observable liar, scammer, trust abuser and one STRONGLY implicated in a serious extortion scheme. Not to mention the escrow details on that 3000 btc move you pulled, not that we are saying that has as yet a strong case behind it but we feel it should have a transparent full investigation done on it.


What's wrong guys?? you don't wish to see scammers ONLY given scam tags?

A step back to centralization hahah. What lauda means is that red trust is being gradually taken away from him to silence whistle blowers that present observable instances of his lying and scamming.

Time to ensure ONLY scammers get scam tags, not just anyone who mentions observable instances in your own past you would like to hide.

I'm simply stating that the vast vast majority of your posts are shit posts. Any person can check it out and confirm.

Please present 10 of your best original thought inspiring posts out of 12000 so we can have a look.

I say to anyone check out your post history. Years and years of 1 liners guessing btc price guessing? sports chat and memes? well done for being one of the most worthless 10k + shit posters and non achievers ever.

I agree with you posting pictures of those with genetic issues is very disrespectful. LFC Bitcoin is quite out of his shitposting mind posting that kind of thing here. Then again his other 12000 posts are pure shit so what else can be expected


@malboroza

that seems like an almost reasonable reply, I want to see which mod removed it, because it it were hilarious and co then surely I would not need to report his own post or cabalism13's post since he was quoting it.

why is it not transparent which mods remove the posts? this should be as standard?  when people say you need to PM the mod to ask why? how if you do not know which mod deleted i?