Glad you did check with a lawyer ... think you misunderstood what I meant earlier in this thread about getting a lawyer involved. Always good to check to make sure what you are doing is strictly legal. Not exactly sure it's a great idea to just hand over the responsibility of the project to someone else, especially the funding part ... you sort of need to find the perfect manager type (or dev), who not only has a track record, but also is willing to provide his real information. A multi-signature vault on coinbase is one way some devs make sure the funds remain safe when there are several 'leads' on a coin. One of those parties having access could be the same lawyer.

A couple of quick observations on the new website/video.

Video looks good, although you may wish to remove the 'advanced beta stage' thing from the video ... I mean, how can it be in advanced beta stage when the white paper is still being worked on?

As for the FAQ, you'll of course need the obvious stuff, the details on how the coin works, how tokens will work, how to eventually get tokens (besides providing hardware power, exchanges I assume) and information on yourself and any other team members.

I think it's simpler than that ... Homestead = pump opportunity. New development equals pump (and typically dump) time.

Except those customers have already purchased the product (1st day even) so there is not only little incentive to increase the bonus, it doesn't exactly make sense financially.

I understand why you ask (who doesn't like free coins), but being realistic, it wouldn't seem like it'd make much sense to just give away 1.8M coins for no real reason.

And your point being what exactly, that the original XCR coder wishes to support Lisk, so he makes money? I mean, so what? Of course he wants to make money, it's just more of an incentive for him to help Lisk increase in value. If he makes money, so does every investor.

First off, I am happy to have a conversation with you, if you please post like a normal human... meaning just use a regular font and bright colors are not needed. Giants fonts/bright colors just scream 'troll'. It doesn't make your points any more valid than if someone starting screaming their arguments.

And yep, we all know where Lisk originates from. It's a fork of XCR, and the two devs who forked it were very active over on the XCR side of things. It's not like 2 strangers decided to fork it. I didn't follow XCR for some time, so don't know how long they worked over there, but assume it was some time... therefore they'd have every right to fork the coin if they felt they could improve things.

The value in the coin over another clone would be in the team behind it, ICO money used for marketing, and I believe even the lead dev of XCR has agreed to be an adviser on the coin. Lisk will be the new XCR. If other devs wish to clone it, so be it, but they won't have those same advantages.

Question I'd have for you is ... do you believe devs of a coin should be compensated for their work? If yes, how much do you think they should make?

Right now every Lisk owner has $0. Nobody has sold a coin that doesn't exist yet. But let's say the devs share is worth $250K when the market opens. Okay, so the two devs make 125K (assuming they sell immediately, btc price remain stable). Or basically what a good programmer makes in a year or so.

Maybe it's just me, but I'd rather devs make their money in an upfront manner by stating how much coin they are getting, vs the other way devs usually make their money (pre-mines, instamines, ICO manipulation). Nobody should fool themselves into thinking devs do this for fun, or they don't try to make money from their endeavor.

The simple fact remains, if devs for a coin are active, ICO funds are used to market/develop a coin, everyone usually wins.... devs + investors (well, until whales do their pump/dump thing, but that is later on).

Well, you can get the passphrase right now if you want to ... just click that little key thingy in your login area, next to the exchange you made. But there is no need for the passphrase right now. Can't do much with it until the coin is released.

I'm not sure if people are being serious now, but I'll answer it as if this was a serious question:

The end amount of Lisk you get will be proportional. So it will vary based on how much is invested. Those who invested early would see like 10x as much Lisk back then, as they do now. But the valuation hasn't changed, so it just means the Lisk you do have is worth more.

Well, it's not like we can get our Lisk right now anyway, so not a big deal to wait. Once the coin is live is when I think we need the keys/phrases, just so we can get our coins.

I'm disappointed too that my Lisk hasn't skyrocketed in price, even though it hasn't been released yet, ICO is ongoing, and exchanges haven't even been decided on yet.

Some may say I have unreasonable expectations, but I would argue in giant fonts (with nice colors!) that I am right, as of course the louder and more annoying my argument, the more right I am.

I believe you need the keys/passphrase from each exchange you make, once the coin goes live. It's that little key button thingy in your login area. If you get your key/passphrase now, just remember to save it somewhere safe.

It's so cheap there because their hot wallet is empty. I suggest you avoid them, regardless of XCR's price... there is a reason why it's so cheap... nobody can get it out. You can check the Lisk thread and see others with that same problem.
 

As stated, a wallet wouldn't do you much good right now. Although I assume you know this is a fork of XCR, so codewise a wallet and all of those nice things exist, they don't need to be coded from scratch.

I do have a question though for the devs here... around when do we have to get our keys by? Is there a deadline, or can we just wait until the wallet is ready to go? I assume we can just get them whenever we want, but wanted to doublecheck.... I haven't gotten all of my keys/passphrases yet (and probably would be paranoid about losing them, so figure I'll just wait).

I had hoped they filled it by now. I had that problem like a week or so ago.

You can chat with a rep to cancel the order if you want (use their chat and ask for English Lilly, unless you speak Chinese), although then it's basically just folks trading a coin that they may or may not be able to
withdraw at a later time.

They accepted it to be fair to XCR owners, with a very fair exchange rate. Otherwise they'd have angry XCR people burning the ICO down.

And I can't see them doing much with it. If XCR even survived somehow, it'd be never-ending sell pressure.

In a way, it may be better to burn a large chunk of it... then the little that is left could be worth something. But that would only make sense if XCR changed to a different type of coin, with different features, as otherwise it'd just be a competitor to Lisk (if it somehow survived).

Hadn't considered it before, but I think you are right. 'Elastic Coin' sounds like a generic crypto ... either just 'Elastic' or 'Elastic Cluster', or something similar does sound a bit more professional.

I like the token idea too. Tokens would allow earlier trading too (such as how assets are traded on NXT, or how Maidsafe did things). But I don't think EK wants to go that way.

I don't know a whole lot about Safex, but how can it be going Beta in like 2 weeks when Maidsafe hasn't even released its MVP yet? I mean, don't they need a bit of time between the network going up and the release of their exchange? And MVP is just some minimal release anyway... would it be functional enough to run the Safe Network?

I can't imagine it'll be of much use to them. They can try to sell a tiny bit, but otherwise, it'll just sit there forever I expect.

Even if by some miracle XCR survives, who would want it? The Lisk devs here will own an insane percentage of all XCR available. I can't see anyone interested in buying XCR on that fact alone... it's like infinite sell pressure.

And they'd also avoid the exposure their apps get by being in the Apple/Google stores too. I don't see this as a viable option really. Besides that, most people aren't fond of sideloading apps (even if they know how) outside the stores in the first place.

I usually try to avoid Bter, but their XCR prices were quite good... although since I couldn't get them off the exchange, I guess I now know why they were so good.

Hopefully they refilled their hot wallet by now. Unless a person knows Chinese, it's not always so easy to get easy answers either (although thankfully they have at least one rep who speaks english on their support chat).