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981  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [2000 GH/s] BitMinter.com [ASIC support: var diff, Stratum, GBT, rolllntime] on: December 07, 2012, 01:25:04 PM
Hey Doc, does the rewards graph need to be updated?

http://bitminter.com/stats/rewards

The one the bottom looks a little off.....
982  Economy / Services / Re: Gigamining / Teramining on: December 07, 2012, 11:35:26 AM
What is the background for this?

Please take a look at my post history. Most of this has already been explained.
983  Economy / Services / Re: Gigamining / Teramining on: December 06, 2012, 09:45:26 PM
To all Gigaminers:

I have received another list from GLBSE today. All of the new information is up on the website if you would like to check to see if you are in the list.

The affidavit is also up as a Google Doc.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1oz5y4beQ_V3Yk59ZPEAMpjELchfXZdyxYYzZotE9GsE/edit

As I have stated before, claims will be reviewed once per week so if you send your information in and do not hear anything immediately, please be patient.

Best regards,
James
984  Economy / Securities / Re: F.GIGA.ETF to be delisted on December 1st, 2012. on: December 06, 2012, 09:41:43 PM
To be very clear, I specifically asked Mircea to make a claim to GLBSE and to me.

He said he would do neither.
985  Economy / Securities / Re: F.GIGA.ETF to be delisted on December 1st, 2012. on: December 05, 2012, 10:53:02 PM
Well  since its a passthrough MPEX would need to send all their personal info to reclaim the shares.

This is correct. I've kindly asked Mircea to reconsider and he declined.
986  Economy / Services / Re: Gigamining / Teramining on: December 05, 2012, 09:23:36 PM
To all Gigaminers:

I have received an new list from GLBSE with 7 more people on it. I will update the claims list on the website tomorrow.

I am still waiting to hear back from Quentin regarding the affidavit. I will update everyone when it is available for download.

Best,
James
987  Economy / Securities / Re: GLBSE is offline We will update our users on Saturday. on: December 05, 2012, 06:52:20 PM
MatthewH3 seems to be friends with Nefario IRL.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=44583

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=117009.0

Maybe he can give us an update.
988  Economy / Services / Re: Gigamining / Teramining on: December 05, 2012, 01:46:25 PM
Hi burnside,

I'll take your questions one by one below.

Out of curiosity, how are you planning on handling the IRS reporting?  What 1099 are you going to file?  How are you handling the valuations?

Direct payments will be reported via 1099 as your suggested. As to which 1099 it is, is yet to be determined. My accountant is also a tax lawyer and will be advising me on this end of things. Valuations are handled at the time of the payments, so if BTC is $13.5 and you receive 4 BTC, the total value transfered is $54.

Thus any dollar values you report on any 1099's are going to be inaccurate, and worse, could end up screwing your customers.  (eg, you report a value of $12, but when the customer exchanges it they exchange at $6)

I believe your thinking here is incorrect. I must report the value give at the time it is transferred. It is up to you to report any gain/loss incurred from converting the coins to something else. So in your example, I'd report the value given at $12 and you would report a loss of half the value because of the exchange rate fluctuation.

Is your lawyer a tax attorney?

Please see my first comment.
989  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Should Giga be tagged as a scammer? on: December 05, 2012, 02:17:54 AM
The funny part is he is claiming more clowns are lining up to buy him mining equipment!

If I didn't offer Teramining, people would say that I am going back on what I promised. Now that I'm putting the contract together, you make the comment quoted above.

Thanks for showing just how unenviable the position i'm in is.
990  Economy / Services / Re: Gigamining / Teramining on: December 05, 2012, 01:07:51 AM
Legal advice was obtained after GLBSE closed. Prior to that, assets were held by VPS. Any business conducted after that point would have to be subject to the proposed rules and personal information requests. I would expect this to include dividends generated during the interim, but for assets being held before then, such a retroactively applied stipulation becomes a bait-and-switch scenario.

All payments while GLBSE was open were made. Like clockwork. GLBSE closing is the only reason I was unable to make payments. So, I am doing EXACTLY what you stated above.

At the moment and to my knowledge, no. Digital forensics is not a static field, though. There is always a possibility that links could be established beyond what Nefario has provided.

GLBSE, to my knowledge, used only two wallets to (hot and cold) to move coins around. So GLBSE was effectively a big coin mixer just like Mtgox is. And if they were crediting coins to your account without tracking which transactions where used to purchase which assets, I'm pretty sure no amount of digital forensics could be done to make a conclusive determination.

Yes and no. This again hinges on the circumstances before and after GLBSE closing.

Before GLBSE closed, Gigamining had a flawless record of on time payments. Again, GLBSE closing is the only reason payments stopped.

Would it be possible to pay out in batches of value equivalent to less than $10-600?

Not according to what I have been advised to do.

Are there any further details on the automated system or a potential time-frame?

My top priority is to have this system up and running to be able to make payments. I am working on it everyday.
991  Economy / Services / Re: Gigamining / Teramining on: December 05, 2012, 12:11:42 AM
Can we use Driving License instead of ID.

Yes.

P.S.
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PDF ?!

I should be receiving it in the morning. I'll post when it is up.
992  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Should Giga be tagged as a scammer? on: December 04, 2012, 11:59:52 PM
Giga, if Nefario released a "better" list as he JoelKatz describes would you still force us to give you all of our personal information? 

Also, since you seem intimately familiar with GLBSEs state, what exactly happened.  Who shut him down? Did those details ever really come to light?

Hi vrtrasura,

I have no other information that what has been released through bitcoin talk. I would like to know these answers as much as everyone else.

As to the request for claims, I'll leave the response from Quentin here also.

Best,
James

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In response to some of the questions and concerns raised by some members of the bitcoin/gigamining community to the information and documentation requested in the prior posting, Virtual Processing Solutions, LLC (hereinafter VPS), wished to provide the explanation and justification for these requests.

The information requested can be broadly divided into three principal categories:

  • Bitcoin payment address.
  • Identity information/documentation.
  • Affidavit of beneficial assignment.

There does not generally appear to be much concern over the issue of bitcoin payment addresses.  This information has been requested to facilitate ultimate payment of the bitcoins and to allow reconciliation with known outstanding obligations.

Identity information/documentation seems to be among the most controversial of the requested information.  This information is necessary for VPS to obtain and maintain for a variety of reasons, including, but not limited to, compliance with tax regulations of the US and foreign jurisdictions (both for recipients and VPS), compliance with the regulations of the US Treasury Office of Foreign Asset Control, and protection against, and remediation in the event of, fraudulent claims.

When considering these requirements, please keep several points in mind.  The triggering threshold for US IRS 1099 (or IRS 1042 for foreign residents) earnings are extremely modest (ranging from US $10 to $600 depending on the classification ultimately assigned by taxing authorities) and the ultimate value of the bitcoins from now until the close of the filing period is unknown.  It is also worth noting that, due to the nature of the contract, these proceeds could be considered interest income which can have a triggering threshold as low as US $10.

A number of foreign locations are currently under embargo by the United States, ranging from full (in the case of Cuba and Sudan) to partial (including Iran, Burma, Syria, and North Korea).  In many cases the regulations prohibit the transfer of any negotiable or liquid commodities to target countries.  In all such cases, the law establishes the clear responsibility of the transferring party to maintain a compliance program which includes, at a minimum due diligence in establishing the identity of the recipient.  Criminal violations of the statutes carry a penalty of twelve years in prison and fines of US $1,000,000 in additional to independent civil penalties of $1,075,000 per count.  

The affidavit is to provide assurance that all submitted information is true and correct, and to provide protection for VPS against fraudulent claims of assignment. It is worth noting in this matter, that prior to the shut-down of GLBSE, VPS had not maintained independent records of contract assignment, nor do unique tracking numbers for individual contracts exist.  Under such circumstances, the potential for multiple parties to claim beneficial assignment of contracts is manifest, and GLBSE cannot be counted on to provide resolution of conflicting claims or indemnify VPS in the event that the wrong party is paid.  While VPS cannot speak to the cost of the foreign equivalence of notarization (apostille), in the US, such services are available free of charge to account holders at most major US banks, and are otherwise available for minimal (US $20 approx.) fees.

It is absolutely incorrect to assert that these information and documentation requests are to avoid VPS’s obligations under extant contracts, and, in fact, the information requested is no more detailed or onerous than what is generally required to open a brokerage or bank account.

Finally, some concern has been raised that VPS is attempting to change the terms of the original contract.  This is, in fact, precisely the opposite of both the intent and effect of the efforts VPS is undertaking in this matter.  Specifically, the original contract is extremely limited in its text and terms, leaving many issues unresolved, including, most basically, who is a party to the contract (i.e. the identity of the issuer and beneficial assignee).  These omissions alone could possibly cause the contract to be unenforceable, not merely on technical grounds, but because of the practical difficulties in establishing the parties to whom payment is due.  

Further, under US law, contracts are always subordinate to the law of the governing jurisdictions (i.e. where law and contract conflict, the law prevails).  To remedy this known issue, many contracts, include clauses to allow courts to redraw contracts to conform to existing laws to prevent their wholesale invalidation due to conflict with governing law (so called “blue pencil” authorization).  No such clause exists in the written contracts at issue.  Nevertheless, VPS has deliberately chosen to attempt, at its own substantial cost, to remedy both of these limitations in the existing contract, by allowing identification of the parties post de facto, and acting as though blue pencil clauses existed to bring the terms of the contract into compliance with US and State law.  Neither of these actions is explicitly required of VPS by law, nor in VPS’s proximate financial interest, but are nonetheless being undertaken to maintain good faith with the bitcoin/gigamining community.
993  Economy / Services / Re: Gigamining / Teramining on: December 04, 2012, 11:55:00 PM
The problem from the community is not that you've obtained legal counsel, it is that it's being applied retroactively. That is being viewed as a hostile action because it effectively freezes assets which were entrusted to VPS, regardless of the status of any contract.

I certainly do not want to be in the position I am in but were are here. I cannot change the past, I can only make sure that direct payments are done correctly.

Write it off. An opportunity for a clean start exists, but only if the legal advice is applied to VPS operations after the GLBSE shutdown.

I'm not sure what you mean by this. Could you please explain further.

The residual claims have to be let go, otherwise they will remain as a stigma for some time to come, and could cause potentially greater issues down the line.

There are plans to keep funds set aside to deal with this.

The blockchain is an irrefutable record.

I am not sure what you mean by this either. There is no way to tell what BTC purchased what assets.

Do you want to deal with claims in the tens to hundreds or thousands of dollars range now, or wait and see if Bitcoin climbs in valuation until the claims are worth 7-figures or greater?

The one thing you forget is that bitcoin mining produces bitcoins. While I don't want to deal with claims for years to come, nefario has left me little choice since his lists are incomplete and in some cases excluding Gigaminers without any known cause.

Best effort verification would allow for much of the assets held prior to GLBSE's failure to be cleaned out. If those asset holders wish to pursue continuing business, they can follow the new legal procedures to renew their investments.

Isn't this exactly what I am doing? Again, to make direct payments, VPS needs to know who they are dealing with. The penalties for not doing so are very high, so high that they might take me away from my responsibilities as a father. That is unacceptable.

What is the threshold, in fiat dollar terms, for paying out without requiring personal information?

As stated in Quentin's response, the threshold is $10 - $600.
994  Economy / Services / Re: Gigamining / Teramining on: December 04, 2012, 11:32:49 PM
Try to scam harder: in order to be "traded" on GLBSE, GLBSE must be operating.

But GLBSE isn't operating. That's the whole reason we are here having this lovely discussion.

So you can only refer to the price going when GLBSE was working. And now it is too late to ask for pseudo-legal b/s.

I'm glad you agree that there is vagueness here and each party will do it's best to push the price one way or the other.

Meni has stated that he would only enact his buyback clause after we are well into ASICs being released making sure the buyback is next to nothing.
995  Economy / Services / Re: Gigamining / Teramining on: December 04, 2012, 11:02:12 PM
Maybe I should have phrased this differently, this is less about the public opinion than it's about the obligations from the old contract. If the old contract isn't continued they must be switched to a new contract (which requires bond owners permissions) or terminated. The old contract provides exactly one way to terminate bonds which is to buy them back. People who don't want to switch thereby must have the possibility to terminate their bonds through a buy-back. Refusing this possibility is scamming/theft.

The text below is an approximation of the actual contract hosted on GLBSE since it couldn't be found in Google's cache. I've bolded the part that talks about a buyback.

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The holder of this contract will receive as coupons a number of bitcoins equivalent to 100% PPS output of 5Mh/s for as long as they hold the contract. THE ISSUER has the right to buy back any contract at any time at a price equivalent to 105% of the highest price the bond was traded on GLBSE over the previous 15 days (360 hours).

The contract specifically states that if I want to enact a buyback, I can, at the highest traded price on GLBSE over the last 15 days. The highest traded price on GLBSE over the last 15 days was 0. The highest traded price on MPEx over the last 15 days was around .03 BTC.

Even if we came to an agreement on price, I'd still need your information to make the payment and comply with federal regulations.
996  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Should Giga be tagged as a scammer? on: December 04, 2012, 10:23:14 PM
You are advocating doing the same things that put GLBSE squarely in the place it is now.

It makes no sense.

Being upset isn't going to change that.
997  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Should Giga be tagged as a scammer? on: December 04, 2012, 10:06:25 PM
Hi conspirosphere.tk,

Your brutal slaughtering of the facts needs to stop.

Easy: just start paying back who is on the Nefario's list if you want be honest and consistent with your promise and past behavior. Who is not in the list, and say he should, can try his best to get things fixed with Nefario in order to get paid later, or just call the cops (the best option for everyone in this case imho). But using such cases as a pseudo-excuse to steal the assets of the most of your investors is just lame.

No one is trying to steal anything. If you would take the time to read anything I've posted, you'd know the PII information is to comply with US federal law along with the other reasons given. Tax IDs are to be able to file the necessary paperwork at year's end.

Not to speak about deleting the original contract from his opening post and try to negate the content of his OP later, or forcing his investors to commit crimes testifying officially falsities while shifting his personal responsibilities to a phony LLC, etc.

The contract was never in to Gigamining OP. The actual contract was only ever hosted on GLBSE. I have posted in on the gigamining website.

http://gigamining.com/faq.html

Anyway, it does not matter any more. No one can seriously expect to get anything back of their GLBSE investments beyond maybe some crumbs of single-digit percentage points in the most fortunate cases. Another lesson learned the hard way.

In all of your screaming, you are advocating doing things the same way that GLBSE did them. But what you fail to see is that doing that will only land us in the same spot GLBSE is now.

Regards,
James
998  Economy / Services / Re: Gigamining / Teramining on: December 04, 2012, 09:54:36 PM
2) What I didn't know is that you also need the PII to comply to the law and thereby to run this thing legit.

I am glad that I made this clear for you.

I won't bitch now about the fact that this wasn't that important when gigamining started because I think it's your good right to stop exposing yourself to the risks involved by running this thing non legit.

I appreciate and thank you for taking a look at my side of the situation. I would like to be doing this 5 years from now and with the Gigaminers that are still on board today. But to be able to make this a reality, things need to change.

Going down the same path as GLBSE will only ensure that we end in the same place. This is the last thing I want.

In my opinion the only way to keep your name clean and make people happy is to comply with current contracts while going legit, and the only way to do this I can think of is to offer a buy back for those who don't want to participate under the new terms.
Yes I've read that there won't be a buy back but this had to be said.

I've already lost in the court of bitcointalk opinion. No matter what I do, someone will not like it. If you look back 20-22 pages in this thread you will see people telling me to get a lawyer. Now that I have one and am listening to what they have to say, others are upset.

Sadly yes as I'm not willing to participate in this under the new terms. Toilet pretty much.

I am sorry to hear this.
999  Economy / Services / Re: Gigamining / Teramining on: December 04, 2012, 08:01:48 PM
Giga, thx for at least an answer.

You are welcome.

I had read everything you wrote, I still don't see how this answers my questions.

I do not believe this to be the case, so I will help you some more.

So you decided to simply break the existing bond contract by changing the contract the way it pleasures you (request all kind of funny stuff and silently pass on liabilities to a LLC).

http://gigamining.com/faq.html

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Virtual Processing Solutions, LLC is the business I have owned and operated by me, James Gibson, since July 20, 2011 to encompass all mining and business activities I have been a part of in the bitcoin community. These records are available via the Florida government websites and this business is in good standing with all local, state and federal agencies which govern it.

Also you claim this is to make sure to not pay the wrong guys (or to sue it back in case false claims are made), yet you ignore every kind of proof of ownership shown to you.

The PII (personally identifiable information) is required for multiple reasons including complying with federal laws. In the US, federal, state and local laws supersede any contract. The tax identification number is required to file the proper paperwork at year's end.

You could at least ask for additional claims with only email/btc address/bond amount (without making any guarantees yet), and look if the total amount of claimed bonds is higher than the actual bonds, and of course how many non unique claims there are. Then start from there. There probably still are cases where there's no better solution than requesting id's to scare of scammers but probably most wouldn't have to go through this hassle.

Please see my previous statements.

I've sent my emails to you directly, not Quentin.

I didn't realize that was the case and I apologize for not responding.

This pretty much. 300 bonds down the toilet, awweesome  Angry.

This certainly does not. Please file the claim and you will be paid.

Note: Just out of curiosity, someone interested in buying the right to claim 300 bonds?

This is not advisable. Please see the quote below.

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Finally, since no unique identification exists for outstanding agreements, ALL CURRENT BENEFICIAL ASSIGNEES ARE STRONGLY ADVISED NOT TO ENGAGE IN ANY TRANSFER, SALE, OR ASSIGNMENT OF THESE AGREEMENTS OUTSIDE OF GLBSE, AS IT MAY RENDER IT IMPOSSIBLE TO VERIFY AND SERVICE SUCH AGREEMENTS.
1000  Economy / Services / Re: Gigamining / Teramining on: December 04, 2012, 07:14:55 PM
Giga, question: would you turn over all of your information to me if our situations were reversed?

I will be turning over my information to Coinlab to continue using up the loyalty points I have accumulated.
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