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win 7, win 10, android, chromebook, all running newest Chrome
Very excited to run mining, no question, this project will be the biggest of all time.
up to 3 billion blockchain miners, plus ai is the future of everything.
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Yeah he didn't buy just now, he bought months ago.
Not sure if he will dump it, but i don't think hes a true believer.
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Wow you guys got Min K, Queen of Crypto?
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I agree this token name confusion is not a plus and may linger for a long time. Just look at the people accidentally buying ETC.
Does anyone know the length limit for token names?
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Probably stating the obvious, but just because each full bitcoin is over $4000 doesn't mean you need to be rich. It doesn't change the price of items you purchase, so you just spend smaller fractions of each coin for each burger/hotel room/computer part.
If anything, the increasing price of btc (up to a point/limit) means that the consumer items are getting progressively cheaper, which would benefit both the rich and the poor.
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As of July 2013, currency in circulation—that is, U.S. coins and paper currency in the hands of the public—totaled about $1.2 trillion dollars. The amount of cash in circulation has risen rapidly in recent decades and much of the increase has been caused by demand from abroad.
Nice research. Crypto definitely has a ton of room to grow. Transaction speeds will need to increase by a lot if it suddenly had billions of users. People can't wait 10 minutes to check out at the grocery store. Look at how pissed people are by chip credit cards, and that's just a few extra seconds. |
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Indeed, sorry to hear your place got broken into. Hopefully, your pks were safe.
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We need both Full time job and part time job as bitcoin, we cant fully depend on the bitcoin.
i do not think that bitcoin need a full time job. it just require some hours daily to study about it and altcoin market. Full time on bitcoin, that's a heck of a lot of hours unless you are building something that uses BTC. That being said, it's an interesting question. |
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Uno didn't fork for 7% stolen coins in coinex-scam and ate it all of 2014, but learned a lesson; eth attempts to contentious hardfork and destroy their network for only 4%.
So much about integrity.
also welcome back IMZ, good to see you again.
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Sure, no hard feelings for jwin. He seems intelligent and is just like everyone else. All good  If he just wouldn't hate on my investement so intensely that'd be great.  About XDN: i haven't determined if XDN works how advertised but i'm sure if it does a low-inflation-coin can just implement that feature while implementing a fair launch and low inflation into a coin that didn't have it to begin with is an impossible task. The monetary properties of a coin are there from launch or they aren't. It can't be changed in the future like some anon-feature that's trivial to add to any existing coin if and only if it would actually work. I personally don't see a lot of value in anon-coins because LTC is the most effective BTC-mixer there is. Makes anon-coins nearly pointless imo. Also note how messages on the blockchain would actually bloat it real fast in case it was ever used by a broader audience. Blockchains as messaging systems aren't really viable currently imo. Also usecase is questionable but i said that already. |
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Lol brigading shitcoiners invading threads and spamming memes, the hallmarks of a legitimate and serious project. Again, sorry for provoking them op, may your thread rest in peace.
lol, go buy some ducknotes  Shall we discuss the distribution of NXt? Or the history of closed source Qora? What do you have to offer to OP besides heavily monopolized tokens? Please enlighten us with the alternatives to "the one". Got low inflation POW to show? Which one? I have some ducknotes from mining early on, but it's dead in the water because it emitted its coins so fast that people don't want to invest in something they feel (understandably so) might be controlled by one or a few early miners, and duckdarkdigitalnotes actually offer some improvements in the technology that it forked from, such as encrypted on and off blockchain messaging and interest bearing deposits, unlike the shitcoin you're pushing repeatedly which only had fast emission and no additional features or technological improvements. The OP didn't ask about POW v. POS or anything else, merely lowest annual creation inflation. Keep staying off topic and shilling your rare and valuable garbage, I'm sure you're attracting lots of "investors". OP didn't ask about anon-coins either Mr. anon-pos-shitcoin-pumper. Can you link the ann of your "interesting bearing" ducktales-coin? you understand 'interest = inflation', do you? Interest is debasement too. So 'encrypted messaging' is what gives your coin value? lol (bitmessage is for free btw) ann-link to your shitcoin please |
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Lol brigading shitcoiners invading threads and spamming memes, the hallmarks of a legitimate and serious project. Again, sorry for provoking them op, may your thread rest in peace.
lol, go buy some ducknotes Shall we discuss the distribution of NXt? Or the history of closed source Qora? What do you have to offer to OP besides heavily monopolized tokens? Please enlighten us with the alternatives to "the one". Got low inflation POW to show? Which one? |
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human consensus? Normally these networks operate on machine-consensus and not sockpuppet-consensus.
You're not making a lot of sense to me with that line of thought, sorry.
You're replacing rule of code by arbitrary actions.
The people are a lower level and cause, reason, foundation. Machines are not alive. Machines can't have consensus. "Machine consensus" is only = "consensus of people to run the same blockchain", (whichever (patched) blockchain that is.) Machines are convenience tools to ease/automate repetitive tasks. Unique issues require unique (human) solutions! myriad of rollback-scams ..... u opened a can of worms.
This choice may stay the only one. But it doesn't make a difference. You don't need a replicable process for unique issues more than before or after or in any other blockchain! (But i will join the thread if you want to think about possible rules of voting about blockchains other than simply "majority" and their possible implementation. I guess one would want this voting to pass by >(100% -x*stolen funds% -y) ) Again can't agree in those fears at all. It is not arbitrary. As said the only fear it comes down to, if you meant that at all, is the general fear for any community, or blockchain, that hard choices could split them. Bitcoin traders had that fear for bitcoinXT but short dump and pump was already the biggest consequence yet once again. Obviously the voting was not about bitcoin to fail or not. And even if such a split should happen ever to any cryptocurrency currency it will be impressive. Both currencies together may not be worth less than the one was before and there would a striking reason. - Yet easier choices, that may pass near consensus, can only reassure integrity of the community. A blockchain is true if the people decide it to be true. The only true Ethereum blockchain may soon have the theft undone - or not if people should sympathize with the thief. Undoing it may increase social value/sympathy in Ether and the braveness of the community, if it pioneers in deciding such. Not doing anything could appear passive but obviously this would also take away all hardfork fears (if they are real) both ways the market would calm. people can't have consensus, only machines can. Social consensus means: "bully out and flame everyone who disagrees until only people are left that agree" You aren't ready for true social conseus - all we can talk about is machine-conseus. "machines can't have consensus"? Then why is bitcoin working? majority rule = mob rule and communism you go fork your network on 51%-vote. I'll be waiting here and watching  So "truth is what the majority says"? Oh boy, you got it upside down .. Nobody who's worth their salt is going to invest big bucks in that chain. Developement and community are incompetent, it has been shown 1000 times and this thread is #1001 |
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2014 bullrun was 11 months straight upside. Uno market is hard to pump and dump. Community won't tollerate it. Now last scammer Vern is out. Future is bright and lasting growth is on the cards. This thread is now about Unobtanium  |
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yes, it is another scale. It was >$70 million on 17 June, ( https://etherscan.io/token/TheDAO) just paid by 11000 investors or so sacrifice integrity....bailed out ... ETH hardfork = selfdestruction
Can't agree. I sure read it often by now, but what is the point really? Read my initial post, start and "3." As said a blockchain does not sustain itself Open source software is constant subject of change transparently and trust is build on this. it requires human consensus. Consensus == Integrity. If the ethereum community thinks the theft harms integrity and wants to undo it to restore integrity that is it. human consensus? Normally these networks operate on machine-consensus and not sockpuppet-consensus. You're not making a lot of sense to me with that line of thought, sorry. You're replacing rule of code by arbitrary actions. Sure OS-software does change but that shouldn't be arbitrarily extended to wallet-balances. You understand it's money, do you? The best you can do for yourself if you really want to go down that slippery road is to specify exact rules how to initiate rollbacks in the future and define a process by which everyone can apply for a rollback - that would be consistent. Endless hardforking and myriad of rollback-scams would be the consequence though. The way this is managed that network shouldn't even be public. It has nothing to do with "holy grail" it has to do with commen sense. You opened a can of worms. |
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Hi Balu2:) as said no blockchain rollback is planed but specifically this theft (=4.5% = 3 month of inflation) may be undone which would otherwise affect 1000s of people. That is up to the Ethereum community, miners to decide democratically. While it is enough to most people this time, future situations in other blockchains, will be different and the ways communities respond may evolve  ..... OMG, i wasn't aware it's only 4.5% That's nothing, man. Uno had 7% stolen coins dumped in 2014 and alomst another 10% this year (could be prevented thanks to bittrex) - these were exchange-hacks. The community did not even discuss forking for that. It's still here and still going strong. We learned our lesson from that not to store too much coins on exchanges. Most coins are now held off-exchange in private wallets as it should be. I think 4.5% is a really low price to sacrifice integrity. 20% i could understand, but 4.5% is what your average pumper does in volume a day. ETH is sacrificed for the cheap, cheap. lol, "4.5%" , incredible. Also the eth will be worth much less by the time they are released. Buying dumps from the hacker or sacrificing integrity shouldn't make much of a difference to the immediate losses - and all the difference to the longterm outlook. My questions still haven't been answered in a straight forward fashion: what's the minimum for a bailout? And can everyone be bailed out or just the friends of the devs? How come you expect people to invest money in such a chain? These actions we've seen in eth is what we are used to see from your average scamcoin dev in networks below 100k$ value. In this high valuation you shouldn't do that - market will punish you. ETH hardfork = selfdestruction Should not even have discussed it and just buying out the dumps and moved forward on ~20% haircut but good chances to recover. But now it's probably too late and you could suffer fatal haircut. I think buying out 4.5% dumps to keep integrity would have been a better deal. |
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