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541  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: 2015 NOT The Year of The Litecoin on: January 26, 2015, 01:50:22 AM
I've always been really curious, and this isn't a joke or mean statement or anything of that sort. For all the rest of the alts who continue to bash on Litecoin, what does your coin do that makes it special? And if its so special, how is it beating Litecoin at anything (marketcap, liquidity, merchant adoption, users, etc).


I personally reach out to other coins to form bonds and friendships, because at the end of the day all of the intercoin fighting doesnt do anyone any good. I have friends in multiple communities, and we respect each other.

If "the other alts" really want to do something worth wild, I suggest forming bonds with other communities instead of pushing something as innovative and trashing others. Thats where the true value is held, not in some fancy technique that is being developed that can't pass what I dubed the grandma test (grandma cant understand Litecoin or Bitcoin, how is she going to understand loading contracts on the blockchain).


PS none of this is a jab or directed towards a coin or its community, but rather the trolls of their communities (which I'll be the first to admit that everyone, even Litecoin, has its trolls).

I might tackle this.  I got out of the litecoin community (mostly) after feeling fleeced by the community vouching for Jasinlee.  I know it wasn't their fault & I made my own decision - so it wasn't that I faulted anyone else.  But it left a bad taste in my mouth.  I do still have some shares in ltcgear so we'll see how that one turns out.  I actually really do like litecoin due to the faster transaction times.  But the pressure on the market is increasingly making it difficult for litecoin to survive.  I also think that PoW combined with the lowering block reward is fundamentally broken.  

If you imagine the number of tokens going out every 15 minutes as the "support" for all the coins that have already been released (security) - then as the price goes up the incentive to attack goes UP while the number of coins released to pay for protecting the network goes DOWN.  I think this is a fatal flaw of both Bitcoin & Litecoin.  FWIW I also hate PoS so ... I'm not presenting a solution.  

I'm primarily interested (nonchalantly) in Monero and Ethereum.  At least the former suffers from the inverted pyramid / network security problem I described.  But the mathematically provable anonymity & dynamic block sizes as well as ASIC resistance makes me much more interested in it than I ever was in litecoin.

Ethereum isn't really made for Grandma - but more for sophisticated business uses where the end user won't need to understand everything or anything under the hood - only developers will.  I think it will have some interesting future ramifications and the economic structure (as much as people hate it) is setup as much LESS of a pyramid scheme than bitcoin/litecoin/monero.

I also like the communities better (aside from rptelia & friends.  And a few shills)  There is MUCH more talk on solving fundamental problems in crypto than "moontalk".  Not sure who's pitting the Monero vs Litecoin communities - but you should pay closer attention to names like Carnth & Smoothie o.O

I've got nothing in the world against the litecoin community except for *possibly* the apathetic attitude towards ASICs until it was too late to do anything about it.  I feel the security of GPU's are still probably better than either CPU or ASIC so it would've been nice to see a different outcome to that scenario.  A decision made for the security & uniqueness of the coin rather than people hoping ASICs would send them to the moon.  Litecoin does smell pretty strongly of early bitcoin adopters who hold hoards of dozens of thousands of coins and I'm fairly certain that they are the ones who've tanked the market over the last several months (opposed to coin emissions).
542  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: January 05, 2015, 05:46:11 AM
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Adam Back said something about maybe there would be a consensus to slow down the curve once the issue becomes more pressing, which gave me a bit of a laugh.

Yeah ... considering the entire thing is built around mining syndicates.  I'm sure they'd opt for that.

The reason bitcoin won't change is because of decentralized consensus.  The only thing more inefficient than bureaucracy 
543  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: January 05, 2015, 03:49:32 AM
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My forecast for 2015: A bloodbath, just in the end we'll see a new #1 and BTC biten the dust (with BTC Bagholders still being in denial)

I actually agree with this although I don't know that it will happen in 2015.  Crypto can't go anywhere with a revolving door of trading leaders every few years because it's not economically viable.  That said - I feel Bitcoin's economic model is broken with the trending towards 0 block reward.

I actually find Ethereum's ongoing distribution model much more geared towards what makes sense to me in a growing economic structure.
544  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Today i sold all btc and ltc on: January 04, 2015, 03:35:45 AM
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It looks like you locked in your losses

by buying other more risky alts???
545  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why Paycoin (XPY) Failed on: January 04, 2015, 01:32:54 AM
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Oh, also their logo for PayCoin is a registered logo of PaGo, a Point of Sale (POS) company.

What I am unable to comprehend is how they were able to raise ... what I read was ... 50,000,000.  That's 3X Ethereum ...
546  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why Paycoin (XPY) Failed on: January 04, 2015, 01:25:58 AM
Is it true that they were claiming they had partnerships with Walmart & Amazon?
They said that soon you would be able to use your pay coins at walmart and amazon. They put walmart, target, and amazon's logos on their website.

Oh ... lol

*grunt* this "community"
547  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why Paycoin (XPY) Failed on: January 03, 2015, 10:28:00 PM
Is it true that they were claiming they had partnerships with Walmart & Amazon?
548  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: How much has GAW/Josh stand to make from Paycoin? on: January 02, 2015, 04:44:04 PM
The only thing that shocks me is how anybody can believe in such a large market cap so quick.  "At the time of valuation, PayCoin was also informally launched on 16th December with an initial investment of $54.5 million brought into the market" (http://www.btcfeed.net/fraud/paycoin-next-big-scam-crypto/) . 

So over 4X what Ethereum raised.

Wow... impressive.
549  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: December 31, 2014, 02:57:57 AM
People who panic sell, panic buy, daytrade, etc all do us a favor.

They provide volume.  Volume is what is needed for a real economy.  Or for dark markets / any markets to be interested.

550  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Blocknet, Etherium or Maidsafe - which is the best? on: December 29, 2014, 11:38:18 PM
How can you call something a scam when you can download and test the software?

"The vision is Privacy, Security and Freedom for all of the people of the world."

Who isn't going to support or use software that's main goal is what's stated on the line above?

People will use this software even if it isn't making them "tons of cash" just to be part of the movement. Look at all the people are supporting Tor for free by being relays?

I honestly could care if anybody in this string buys any of this coin but this whole project is a winner in my book.

I missed out on Bitcoin because I was so hesitant in throwing money at a "bad idea" but I will not be missing out on this one.

My understanding is that maidsafe has been around since 2006.  I don't disagree with the mission statement.  I also don't disagree with feeding the poor, killing bad guys, or destroying the company known as Apple.  That doesn't mean whoever uses one of those things as a slogan is going to get my money.  I've seen half a dozen coins claim, try (not very hard) and die.  Not convinced that's what maidsafe is - it just isn't as simple as agreeing with the sales-line somebody throws at you.

Blocknet is a GreatValue brand of SuperNET ripped off by a pump and dump group + a desperate dev.  Both ideas I feel are pretty limited.  I haven't been able to have anyone explain how they're more than an exchange going on behind the scenes.  BlockNET is a scam.  SuperNET is a project to help someone offload a lot of their assets.

Ethereum is an ambitious project.  Some people hate how much money they've raised & feel it's been way over funded.  They've developed much more functional products than any of the other projects mentioned but have had an ongoing beta for almost a year now I think.  Bewarned the developers have awarded themselves ongoing bitcoin salaries + pretty good chunk of ether.  Basically a 4 year premine was sold upfront to fund the project.

They are all trying to do different things.

BlockNET/SuperNET - Decentralized exchange working as a middle man to do stuff with different currencies.  (Send bitcoin to bob using cryptonote technology by buying BBR's behind the scenes / sending them / exchanging them back for bitcoin / delivering to bob).  No volume will limit whatever practical use this might have to useless (IMO)

Maidsafe - Share computing and bandwidth resources between users and incentives by creating a coin that is harvested as you share your resources.

Ethereum - A programming language (that works on it's own blockchain - not bitcoins) to allow more than simple trust mechanisms to be achieved by consensus.  (They market DAPP alot which IMO belongs to Maidsafe more than eth ...)   Think reputation systems, crypto AirBNB/Uber, Decentralized Exchanges, Provably fair gambling, leveraged assets, etc.  Goal here is to have the best toolset possible by far to build these & more.  Who knows how things will go after they release the genesis block - but all beta releases have seemed to be fully functional and do what they say it's going to.  IBM forking their code means that it isn't just a smokescreen.

There is an alternative open source project somewhere recently to allow for a programmable blockchain to be plugged into any altcoin - was it called AT?  Automated Transactions?

Not to be a d*** - but if you're interested read the blogs of each of the websites / projects.  If they don't have blogs read their posts (think jl777 guy always just posts informal stuff so probably have to dig...& then synchest).  Look at who is associated with the projects.  In other words look at these three groups

prometh3us / Dan Metacalf (blocknet)
jl777 (supernet)
Nick Szabo / IBM (ethereum)
Maidsafe (?)

... try to find who is interested in which project.  It will help paint the picture for you.

Quality of reddit groups is also a good way to gauge quality of interest in a project outside of the pump and dump nature of the forums.
551  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][Blocknet] The internet of blockchains | XBridge | true cross-chain P2P on: December 19, 2014, 03:04:10 AM
any ideas on why the XC thread got locked?
552  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [SCAM] BLOCKNET: The Metcalf/Prom Alt-Coin Cartel Scam Exposed on: December 18, 2014, 06:56:12 PM
BOOOOM, scandal of the year !!!

Fraud exposed, JasinLee aka Jason A. Hudgins "member of XC coin" in court and the charge are huge:

FRAUD,UNJUST ENRICHMENT,VIOLATION OF FLORIDA SECURITY AND INVESTOR PROTECTION ACT,FALSE AND MISLEADING ADVERTISEMENT,CIVIL THEFT, NEGLIGENCE......

http://www.coindesk.com/florida-group-faces-fraud-charges-alleged-altcoin-pump-dump/

If I was Dan Metcalf I'd be sweating.

The really interesting thing to me is that it leaves the door wide open with the association Jasinlee had with XC for Florida to take a look at the Blocknet offering as another "piece" of this scam.  I think a case could be made that XC admitted they were still linked to Jasin (Jasin was a team member) and if you found that Jasin had deposited money into purchasing XC with the investment of those who purchased Fib shares - the lines between

"You can't blame us for Jasinlee" vs "This is just one big scam with many offshoots & different "Named" figureheads all working together" becomes very VERY blurred from an outsider taking a look at it.
553  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Jasinlee - one of XC's "Team Members" is a master fraudster on: December 18, 2014, 05:44:25 AM
http://www.coindesk.com/florida-group-faces-fraud-charges-alleged-altcoin-pump-dump/

How's that official response that XC has "Full confidence that Jasinlee will make right to his investors" four months ago working out for ya Arlyn?

554  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: December 13, 2014, 05:06:05 AM
It's pretty impressive that Monero is almost down to the same price as Bytecoin.  I'd say it was a bullish indicator but looking at the pattern on the order book I think people are going to keep dumping.

555  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: December 13, 2014, 02:38:22 AM
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As you say, the advantages of being trustless may outweigh the very slow trading

If you'll think back to not too long ago ... decentralized exchanges will help bad actors profit from smaller coins (split chain / dump).  Not to mention I'm not sure they will be able to lock them down by 2FA (won't they have to use the private / public key only?)

I'm not so sure that there aren't close to as many cons as pros
556  Other / Archival / Re: delete on: December 01, 2014, 04:41:55 PM
Besides I am in a negotiated truce with Monero.

Apparently in his imagination. No one associated with Monero will acknowledge (publicly or privately) knowing about this negotiation or truce.


Oh wow what a surprise, something going on and you didn't know about it.

Keywords, No one associated with Monero will acknowledge (publicly or privately) knowing about this negotiation or truce.

I would be more worried about the endless slide XMR has seen over the past two months.

Soon to be in Maxcoin territory.


~BCX~



Lol ... this is really pretty fun to watch.

BCX I gotta be honest.  The 13 year old troll inside of me was rooting for you even though I owned Monero.  But given your history of promising and not delivering you've lost credibility of believing that you actually mean what you say.
557  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: December 01, 2014, 04:31:29 PM
I was kinda wondering if that buy support was fake.  It either was or he decided he could get it cheaper.

Wonder if we'll tumble down into the single digits?
558  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Who has more integrity - Dan Metacalf / Blocknet or Spotniek? on: November 25, 2014, 09:47:59 PM
Lol @ this thread

Noticed they're moving to new forums cuz it's too toxic.  You hurt their PR guys feelings
559  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: November 21, 2014, 05:19:31 PM
Lol why do people take it personal when people sell?  It's about adoption and the inherent things a coin brings to the table ... not having loyal fanboys who hodle long enough
560  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: So what's up with Ethercoin? Market cap > XC ... up 5X LEGIT ether price? on: November 20, 2014, 08:48:54 PM
Has Etherium commented on Ethercoin?

just that they have nothing to do with it.
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