Can you please give us the link to let all newbie can able to take a look.
As far as I know all topic can be found in beginners and help all about the beginning.
I will look for that too I will found it I will paste the link here. Let us help one another.
Go and read here:https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=84.0 this is basically spoonfeeding. Please, if there are questions in your mind, go search and research those things that boggles your mind. Hope this would be the last time. |
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Dang. This is why merit system is intoduced in the first place. Newbies like you who copy/paste works and spamming the sh*t out of this forum. Why not create an interesting topic on your own? For a change?
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I had a dream that I will wear a signature campaign's Avatar when I will be a full member. But Merit system broke my mind. My activity is 140 but still, i am a member. I need 90 Merit to be a full member. But that's not possible I think. I am feeling too bad and I am hopeless.
What should I do now?
Dream without accompanied by hard work is only a dream and will not come true. All you have to do is make the best contribution to this forum and merit will follow you. You are correct but it will take more and more times while without merit system he/she can easily become a full member. BTW, it will help the forum to be spam free. Of course it'll take time. Merit system was created to lessen those account farmers and spammers; don't think about the time, think of ways to improve yourself. |
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It's pretty hard to earn merit  No pain no gain buddy  |
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what relevance the activities have for ranking.
Activity is not just the number of posts. You also need to post at least once in each 2-week activity period. So theoretically, a Newbie will remain Newbie status even though they may have penned 10K post, earned 1000 Activity, but remained at O Merits, correct? Incorrect, it will not remain as newbie throughout his bitcointalk life because the requirement for a jr. Member is basically 0 merit only and by that he or she may and can rank up to jr member from newbie. ^ this and for those shitposting newbies long as they aren't changing their ways, don't ever ask for merits. |
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These are the things you need to do.
1. Pick a topic
2. Research about the topic(if you don't have any knowledge) or just pick something that you know
3. Answer the topic
:what? This is what i'm doing but why am i not getting some?
The key to these are:
1. Try to pick new one's
2. Research research and research. To save time next time if you want to post again.
3. Answer in a way everyone would understand and don't plagiarize.
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I would rather have preferred a demerit system instead of a merit system, where users get fixed demerit points to give out to users who are abusing their bitcointalk profiles for posting waste messages just to complete their bounty requirements! Once a particular post gets 5 demerit points from various users, the post should be flagged for the admins to review, if everything is right about the demerit system, the admins should decrease the activity by a value of 28 to make sure the user posts good posts and not just say thanks, looking forward, when lambo etc.
I myself agree merits system being flawed, but if it really makes the bitcointalk forum go for informed posts and less like reddit, i am all in!
Merits or Demerits, are basically the same. Both system can be abused, well actually almost all system can be abused if an individual wants to. Both have the same purpose, to reduce spammers and account farmers by either giving merits or demerits. And let's say that both have limits in sending merits/demerits which accounts the abuse part. In my opinion, one thing that made merits better than demerits is the approach of it. People would love to be praised rather than be noticed by their mistakes. |
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Having an effort for typing those common ideas makes the post so complicated and there are so many topics that is also the same with this. You know that this system is new to us and some of here in meta already posted about this. I easily get tired when i seeing posts about "earning merits", you don't need a guide in earning merits, a simple post which is direct to the point is all that matters. Your post is too much, you can explain it in 2-3 sentences. Also, the quality of your post is important. You look like you are just aiming for merits in posting this thread. The only thing i can think of is you need to fit to the standards of members of this forum so that you can earn all your dreamy merits.
PS. you should've posted on local instead, helping your fellow citizens that is new in our community is good.
Another thing is, you've replied in my thread in local and stated that "if you can say something in a shorter way as everyone understands, why not?". Then, we should apply it here.
For the nth time. Thank you for pointing that out and don't worry i'll shorten my posts here on out. Is thinking that i am doing this to fit to the standard of members negative or not? cause if it's negative, why? why do fitting to the standards of the members in this forum wrong? if not, then i'll disregard the "you can earn all your dreamy merits" since it feels like you're mocking me. I also posted on my local board in hopes of helping others as well. Also, that reply was almost two weeks ago (january 30), replying like this feels like you're waiting to get back on me. I can sense the hatred in this post, or is it just in you idk. PS: I never got to answer your reply, so to clarify things up: I have read the title? yes. Do you think one line posts can receive merits? Definitely yes, why not? I said "Not all one liner posts are shit posts" that doesn't mean that i was inferring that your statement means one liners = shit post so chill. Also, one liners can be quite unique in some ways, again i'm not saying that one liners = Unique and i'm also not saying one liners = shit/common/spam posts whatever you want to call it. Stop concluding things so easily and try to open up your mind a little. Lastly, "You also need to fulfill the standards of every member in this forum and this will not fit one liner posts." i don't really know all the standards of every member in this forum, enlighten me. Does this "standard" includes not reading previous comments? PSS: I'm rooting for the both of you. Godbless. Yes 'cause the topic is all about merits, your statement can be included as off topic since one liner as shit posts are not my point. I just want to avoid this kind of posting. No hatred at all my friend, I just want to clarify things and help you to improve this. The dreamy merits that i've mentioned to you is also i wanted. I said it to you because the intention of this post is very obvious. Just make clear things up, dont make complicated post that's all. Godbless also, cheer up! Ps: No hard feelings to this, the personality of individuals here in forum is different. PSS: i'll merit you since you've answered my questions and effort for creating this topic. Goodluck Glas to hear those kind words. No hard feelings. And i'll try not to complicate things a little. Although i would like to disagree that my reply was off topic since merits and posts are somewhat related. In line with that, i've made that reply to support your post and just noted that not all short posts are shit posts(because people often generalize short posts). |
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Is there something wrong with that?
Why do you think there is something wrong with adding that line as step 4? You can add it as sarcastic step  I post on bitcoin discussion and other sections of this forum occasionally since almost all of the threads there are getting tons of answer every minute and apparently, if i read all the replies in those threads, there's a high chance of my answer being redundant. If spams would be controlled there and merits would be regulated throughout the forum then i would love to join their discussion. But for now i'll be a regular here btw, thanks for welcoming me couple a weeks ago it made me think that being a regular here is not really that bad comparing to other sections.  Isn't this contradiction to your topic? I mean, more or less you said "be constructive and you will get merit" but "I refuse to post in other sections because this one will bring me merit".  hmmm i did not think that through, i was carried away by the hype of everyone saying i should shorten my post. Although you can earn merits through being constructive, there are certain things that would be the variable in gaining one. For now, just like you said "Based on my own experience you will earn most merits in meta. So be regular poster in meta and you will earn merit" the regulation of merits in the forum's section isn't exactly equal and the other, i think, is proficiency in language (English only sections + Local boards = more place to gain merits). Also, we could add a sarcastic step if you want! |
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OP you should add step number 4 and skip steps number 1,2 and 3: " Based on my own experience you will earn most merits in meta. So be regular poster in meta and you will earn merit" Direct hit! anyway the OP seems very active at Meta I think because the merit is more regulated here at Meta Section than to other section like btc & altcoin discussion, and one more thing his activity almost reach to 120 so technically he needs 100 merits to be able to rank. to OP: ill give you plus 1 so that you only need 70 more merits to become fullmember just dont do shit post. Thanks for the merit,i'll be paying it forward and i won't do shit post. |
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OP you should add step number 4 and skip steps number 1,2 and 3: " Based on my own experience you will earn most merits in meta. So be regular poster in meta and you will earn merit" Is there something wrong with that? I post on bitcoin discussion and other sections of this forum occasionally since almost all of the threads there are getting tons of answer every minute and apparently, if i read all the replies in those threads, there's a high chance of my answer being redundant. If spams would be controlled there and merits would be regulated throughout the forum then i would love to join their discussion. But for now i'll be a regular here btw, thanks for welcoming me couple a weeks ago it made me think that being a regular here is not really that bad comparing to other sections. |
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Having an effort for typing those common ideas makes the post so complicated and there are so many topics that is also the same with this. You know that this system is new to us and some of here in meta already posted about this. I easily get tired when i seeing posts about "earning merits", you don't need a guide in earning merits, a simple post which is direct to the point is all that matters. Your post is too much, you can explain it in 2-3 sentences. Also, the quality of your post is important. You look like you are just aiming for merits in posting this thread. The only thing i can think of is you need to fit to the standards of members of this forum so that you can earn all your dreamy merits.
PS. you should've posted on local instead, helping your fellow citizens that is new in our community is good.
Another thing is, you've replied in my thread in local and stated that "if you can say something in a shorter way as everyone understands, why not?". Then, we should apply it here.
For the nth time. Thank you for pointing that out and don't worry i'll shorten my posts here on out. Is thinking that i am doing this to fit to the standard of members negative or not? cause if it's negative, why? why do fitting to the standards of the members in this forum wrong? if not, then i'll disregard the "you can earn all your dreamy merits" since it feels like you're mocking me. I also posted on my local board in hopes of helping others as well. Also, that reply was almost two weeks ago (january 30), replying like this feels like you're waiting to get back on me. I can sense the hatred in this post, or is it just in you idk. PS: I never got to answer your reply, so to clarify things up: I have read the title? yes. Do you think one line posts can receive merits? Definitely yes, why not? I said "Not all one liner posts are shit posts" that doesn't mean that i was inferring that your statement means one liners = shit post so chill. Also, one liners can be quite unique in some ways, again i'm not saying that one liners = Unique and i'm also not saying one liners = shit/common/spam posts whatever you want to call it. Stop concluding things so easily and try to open up your mind a little. Lastly, "You also need to fulfill the standards of every member in this forum and this will not fit one liner posts." i don't really know all the standards of every member in this forum, enlighten me. Does this "standard" includes not reading previous comments? PSS: I'm rooting for the both of you. Godbless. |
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I am wondering why you have a lot of words and I think you make it more complicated but the true intention of yours is to know how we can earn merit using a good post. In my opinion, making a long long post is not necessary. Make it short and concise because you're wasting the time of your reader with the obvious answer.
Thank you for pointing that out for the fourth time, i'll be trying to make my posts shorter next time. It's not necessary but can't i make long posts? is supporting the statement prohibited now? plus i stated that the post is really common-sense and highlighted the obvious answers for those people who don't like reading long posts. |
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Peoples are busy with their work, they login Bitcoin talk for a certain period. It's normal to forget to give merit. Some of them are generous and hard working , they find useful content through browsing. I know it's hard to monitor. Now my question is , if I give so much effort and try to write useful article to improve the quality of our forum, then wanting merit with in the post. After a long post I used to write -
" if you like this , just commend me a MERIT point , it will boost my passion to research more." I am also giving an example of my post >> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2906256.msg29885924#msg29885924
NB:
1. I am new on this society, I saw peoples are getting merits by spamming. I saw a post , he got 30 Merits for one post (3 Line) .
2. I will not buy any merit from any one.
3. I have not messaged some one to give merit.
Will it be treated as a CRIME ? I am again saying that is not begging.Why ? I was posting a lot from the first, but after the merit point system added , it seems a very hard journey to get level up. That's why I have decided to write post more constructively. Give more time to write one. Now please answer my question . I am expecting answer from the senior members. If it is a CRIME I will not do that ( I have done it may be in 5 quality posts ) . If you say stop I will stop demanding on quality post also. In Theymos post , there i saw- Collect TEN posts written in the last couple of months by other people that have not received nearly enough merit for how good they are, and post quotes for them all in a new Meta thread. The point of this is to demonstrate your ability to give out merit usefully. - 1. It's also a good Idea . If no one is recommending or collect our post what we will do ?
- 2. Am i capable and ranked enough to get this service , and be a merit source ? I want to help people.
Hopefully you guys who understand what I want to deliver. Thank you. These kind of phrase can be come off as begging to some but some don't really see it as one. Personally, i don't see it as begging especially if your post was well made. Also, to become a merit source you need to become an established member. And i think this can be seen through rank, although i'm a member i don't consider myself as an established member(i still have a lot to learn). |
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This is the most useful post I have ever seen today lol. However, the search feature on this forum sucks because it limits newbies if you want to search for multiple things within a short span. I feel like that restriction is useless because newbies would rather just fire up a new thread (if they haven't posted anything within 360 seconds) instead of waiting for 90 seconds. There is also a Google-based search without the restrictions, but most newbies don't know about that.
Where's the google-based search? Is it what i'm doing? Going to google then ask a question then include bitcointalk at the end? Thanks in advance. Hi all,
I don't know what to say but I see many topics started by newbies and even old members without any value, just asking questions that have been answered thousands of times.
Please use search before posting anything, maybe you will find what you are looking for.
If another member writed a satisfying answer, just send him a merit point (without repeating his answer).
Do not discuss the same topic over and over again.
That is all, I had to say it because what I read is making me angry.
Damright questions are asked every other day, with the same topic but different approach in asking. I can't reply since i think everything was already laid off. |
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Should there actually be the guide to earning merit? I mean, it's not like something collectible or requires a special approach to get it.
Just try to write quality posts and don't pay attention to it, otherwise you'll overcomplicate your post because you're focusing on earning merit.
Yeah, I dont think the diagram is necessary for the forum. As I discussed somewhere in the forum. After merit system released, there is a new hot trend, which using inforgraphics to earn merits from complaisant users. I have checked some inforgraphics, some of them only put words from Theymos announcement into those inforgraphics. It's waste of time. There is no denying that authors had put some efforts to make them. However, I would like to emphasize that this is likely a trend, and users in the forum think that making inforgraphics will help them to get merits. Turning back to the diagram, I don't think it is necessary. The OP of the topic should be write briefly, it looks long-widened. We should describle ideas succinctly. Anyway, thanks for your diagram, Thirio. Making infographics is not a waste of time since it helps others, making redundant infographics is. A flow chart with these three does not have the same ideas as the infographics posted after the release of the merit system. I wanted to try making one because i'm still lacking, i want to improve my ways. I think there's nothing wrong with trying (same goes for other members especially newbies who're trying to make infographs to help), if it will result to some merits then it means i have done something nice and i gotta keep on doing those kind of stuff. If not, then something's lacking or maybe it just wasn't what other people are seeking. Doesn't matter, at least i tried. Will be saying this the third time, it's all in my mind. Ideas, words flow as i speak and i'm just continuously writing as i think. Also, Thank you for pointing that out, now i really think writing excessively would be one of the things that i need to change. PS: I did not made the diagram, i only gave my idea. Credits to topkhai. |
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Hi, I found some references to "forum time" lately, can someone point me to an explanation of what is the forum time?
Is the forum time, the time that can be seen on the top right of the page? If that's it, the placement is all i know. |
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I think it is very difficult to get merit, I've tried to post according to topic and try to answer as well as possible but until now I have not get merit, maybe I should keep learning to make a good post so I can get merit to raise my account level
Yeah maybe you should. Also, i suggest you try to pick threads that you think may be an interactive one, not only you'll learn together, you'll also have somewhat build a connection betwen you. |
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You wrote such a big post about such obvious thing, I am just surprised how you could find so many words for explainment of the most simple way: find a topic, reply it if you know the point. That's all! I count my own comments just like you have said, but why I still not get a Merit then? I think other users feel the same about their posts. So, your strategy doesn't work in many cases. That's the fact. Recently, after launch of merit system, users tend to write as long as possible in order to catch attention of higher rank users, which in turn might help them to get merits. I don't want to refuse their efforts, hard works and of course their time spent to those ones. However, it doesn't make sense. As you pointed out, the contents in the OP can obviously describe or paraphrase in briefer sentences. I think it's enough. Too long sentences (this one is extremely long) take more time to read (if we can have shorter one, but still meaningful, why not?). It's unnecessary. As i've said earlier, it is all in my mind. I write posts as if i'm talking to someone. I also think that it's unnecessary sorry but i really can't help it. Thanks for the advise anyways i'll to shorten my posts a little. |
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Hello.
I see a lot of people complaining about how the merit has stopped rank progression completely, and therefore ruining lives. But let me tell you a story.
Three weeks ago, when I had never heard of merits, I was what you call a Jr. Member. I spent all day switching between nitpicking and joggling my testicles between my fingers in order to sort out what was testicles, what was prick, and what was nit. I wasn't the brightest of all people, or at least that is what my wife told me.
However, a thing called merit got introduced. In the following two and a half weeks my intelligence and post quality enhanced exponentially, and the pace in which I received merits got out of hand. First I became a member. I got laid (by my wife). Then I got laid again (by my wife).
Now the track "Started From The Bottom", by Drake, is running on repeat on my Spotify.
Point is.. this happened in two and a half weeks. Imagine where i'll be in half a year. You can be there too. (not with my wife tho)
Make the best of it.
Nice that you got the merits required to reach the member level. This post however is a shit post and makes me doubt the merits you got. I checked the posts you got merits for and they are good. Something does not click for me here. Will be nice to here opinion of other members here. You must be fun at parties |
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