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1881  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ESSENTIA - The Decentralised User Becomes a Reality on: October 16, 2018, 06:40:27 AM
A $ 25 million project now and let's see the price of it ... you work so hard .. so funny
ESS $ 0.003 | 0.00000053 Ƀ
ICO Date: 2018-06-25
Raised: $ 25,500,000.00
Supply: 1,755,313,373.00

USD ROI: 0.08x
ROI ETH: 0.18x
BTC ROI: 0.08x


We often hear they put $600k into marketing after ICO, but I think we can challenge that with facts:

https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?q=essentia%20ico

https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?q=essentia
1882  Local / Altcoins (Hrvatski) / Re: Airdrop..?? on: October 15, 2018, 11:04:42 PM
dali moraš uložiti ETH da bi ušao u airdrop tokena ili je dovoljno zapratiti telegram, twitter na primjer i skupiti po koji refferal?

Tokene možeš dobiti kako si naveo, a tickete za ovo dnevno izvlačenje ili kupiti ili zaraditi...ja sam zaradio 30 jer
sam našao bug u ClearOS-u (korisnik sam od 2011)
Kontam da ću za par dana imati tokena za neki od ovih njihovih servera, onda samo treba dočetaki da prođe
12 mjeseci da ga mogu i kupiti  Grin

Dali je ova telegram grupa isto official?
t.me/getclear

Tu sam usao prije jedno par tjedana kada im nije radila registracija na njihovom siteu
A sad vidim da je u pitanju jedna druga grupa kao official t.me/ClearFoundationCommunity

Obje, ali samo druga važi za tokene, a i ova treća:  https://t.me/ClearCenter


Projekt je ozbiljan, ali se vidi da su i početnici što se tiče crypta. Ipak:

https://data-economy.com/hpe-unveils-blockchain-data-server-offering-for-enterprises/

Što bi neki drugi dali za partnerstvo sa HPE (a i još par velikih igrača)

Jpš malo detalja:

https://www.clearcenter.com/blogs/timeline/clearfoundation-to-give-away-10-billion-clear-tokens-coming-months-with-every-person-on-earth-eligible-to-receive-their-share-of-10-billion-clear-tokens
1883  Local / Altcoins (Hrvatski) / Re: Airdrop..?? on: October 15, 2018, 10:56:42 PM
dali moraš uložiti ETH da bi ušao u airdrop tokena ili je dovoljno zapratiti telegram, twitter na primjer i skupiti po koji refferal?

Tokene možeš dobiti kako si naveo, a tickete za ovo dnevno izvlačenje ili kupiti ili zaraditi...ja sam zaradio 30 jer
sam našao bug u ClearOS-u (korisnik sam od 2011)
Kontam da ću za par dana imati tokena za neki od ovih njihovih servera, onda samo treba dočetaki da prođe
12 mjeseci da ga mogu i kupiti  Grin
1884  Local / Altcoins (Hrvatski) / Re: Airdrop..?? on: October 15, 2018, 08:41:34 PM
Evo da vidite otprilike kako funkcionira sa ticketima:

1885  Local / Altcoins (Hrvatski) / Re: Airdrop..?? on: October 15, 2018, 12:01:03 PM
Ni meni baš nije jasno o čemu se radi. Upisao sam Telegram i Twitter račune. Je li to dovoljno? Malo se osjećam priglupo jer ne razumijem  Grin

Ako si sve dobro upisao, sad čekaš coine Smiley

Btw, ne zaboravi da imaju 4 različita proizvoda (ClearFoundation, ClearCenter, ClearEnergy, ClearOS)
i za svaki posebno se prijavljuješ i dobijaš coine

Ja čekam Turski dan nezavisnosti jer se tad dijeli poveća hrpa za nas sa kupljenim ticketima...nisu baš
dobro objasnili pa ne znam dal iz svih država učesnici imaju bonus, ili samo Turci...78 milijuna coina
29. listopada
1886  Local / Altcoins (Hrvatski) / Re: Airdrop..?? on: October 15, 2018, 09:30:24 AM
Ja ovo ništa ne razumijem. Baš ništa. A stvarno ne mislim da sam baš jako glup.

Koliko sam ja shvatio, oni dijele tokene. Ja sam mislio da dijele svima koji su prijavljeni, sad vidim da se spominju nekakve kartice, društvene mreže, pitajboga šta sve ne.

Znači, ovo nije airdrop? Jer ne želim kupiti nikakve tikete, pogotovo za projekt čiji je supply 300 zilijuna tokena. Ne da mi se ni raditi društvene mreže.

Ako ne kupim tikete i ne napravim društvene mreže, ne mogu sudjelovati u tim giveawayima? Ili?


Možeš tražiti bugove  njihovom softveru, a ja sam recimo dobio 5000 samo zato što sam postavljao pitanja i "bio konstruktivan" u telegram
grupi, za razliku od hrpe Indijaca koji samo dođu i napišu generičke hvalospjeve kako je ovo najbolji projekt ikad, a nemaju pojma ni o čemu
se radi, samo hoće free tokene Smiley

A koliko znam većina airdropa traži da se negdje uključiš/pretplatiš, ovdje ima Linkedin, Youtube, github, medium, telegram, twitter, facebook i
instagram,
1887  Local / Altcoins (Hrvatski) / Re: Airdrop..?? on: October 15, 2018, 07:01:41 AM
Uh samo 10000 tokena si dobio, pa ja sam mislio milijun ili bar pola milijuna jer je dnevni fond koliko vidim 1 000 000 a prijavi  se po jedan ili 2 čovjeka dnevno.
Kojeg datuma si stavio taj ticket?


13-tog.
A gdje vidiš koliko se ljudi prijavilo? Uzmi u obzir da tih milijun tokena dijele i svi koji se prijavljuju za socijalne mreže.
Ne čini li ti se da bi bilo previše da za jedan ticket vrijedan $20 dobiješ milijun tokena koji vrijede $20000  Grin

Ja sam zadovoljan i sa razmjenom $20 za $200
1888  Local / Altcoins (Hrvatski) / Re: Airdrop..?? on: October 14, 2018, 09:39:23 PM
https://clearfoundation.co.nz/invite/347

Dosta se dijeli ($20000 dnevno idućih 365 dana)

Ako idete preko mog referala, dobijete još 100 coina, ja dobijem 5% od
onog što eventualno kupite, znači ništa Smiley

Poslali su mi mail pred par dana pa sam se registrirao već, sori Sad

Kako to funkcionira dalje? Nakon što napravim wallet samo čekam?
Raspodjela je ujednačena ili random?


Na ovom linku je sve pobrojano:

https://clearfoundation.co.nz/dashboard

kupnja ticketa, kupnja hardvera, prjava na 30-ak socijalnih mreža, traženje bugova, dijeljenje diska...
još nije sve aktivno

Točno godinu dana od danas će se moći i hardver za coine kupiti, ovi njihovi clearnode serveri
1889  Local / Altcoins (Hrvatski) / Re: Airdrop..?? on: October 14, 2018, 08:46:57 PM
https://clearfoundation.co.nz/invite/347

Dosta se dijeli ($20000 dnevno idućih 365 dana)

Ako idete preko mog referala, dobijete još 100 coina, ja dobijem 5% od
onog što eventualno kupite, znači ništa Smiley
Ne mogu otvoriti sajt. Prijavljuje 503 Service Unavailable. Mora da su ljudi navalili i oborili sajt Smiley


Čudno, meni radi


Kako pokupiti dio tog kolača od 20000$ dnevno?
Ja već imam oko 5500 clear tokena

Kupnja ticketa...za 1 ETH se kupi 10 ticketa, onda za to dobiješ njihov coin ovisno koliko ticketa
staviš na određeni datum (nisam točno skužio računicu, ja sam za 1 ticket dobio 10204 clear tokena,
po ICO cijeni znači da sam već vratio uloženo)

Hrpa se još može dobiti prijavama na razne njihove FB, twitter i slične stranice
1890  Local / Altcoins (Hrvatski) / Re: Airdrop..?? on: October 14, 2018, 05:18:03 PM
https://clearfoundation.co.nz/invite/347

Dosta se dijeli ($20000 dnevno idućih 365 dana)

Ako idete preko mog referala, dobijete još 100 coina, ja dobijem 5% od
onog što eventualno kupite, znači ništa Smiley
1891  Local / Off-topic (Hrvatski) / Re: Dajem merite za sljedećih 10 postova (viceva) on: October 13, 2018, 08:56:11 PM
Dobra su ti oba slackovicu ali onaj prvi je ipak bez premca.


Nije, prvi je već zastario, od top 100 valuta 57 je palo više od XRP-a...bio je možda aktualniji prije mjesec dana
1892  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: which coin will 5x?? on: October 13, 2018, 05:38:04 PM
This is CHT...its USD value in 17 weeks went up 2X, its ETH value went up 5X...its not spectacular
but its very steady, as you can see here:

1893  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ESSENTIA - The Decentralised User Becomes a Reality on: October 12, 2018, 11:38:13 AM
Sad to see the price of this project. You guys made a big deal about getting into this project in private pools. There was absolutely no reason to fomo on this project.
This is one of the worst result of "income" for the last time! From the beginning (850 sat) to current moment (55 sat) it done -x15! rank 1750 on CMC!
Crazy!



Well, you can look at it as good opportunity if you feel it'll be widely used and team will stick to roadmap.

I'm more concerned about exact meaning of these words:




Can someone with better english language knowledge than myself explain if
that can be read as "once swap to mainnet happens, investors are not guaranteed to get
new tokens on mainnet"?

I already had some issues with ESS team using doublespeak, so I'd like it explained before I maybe invest more
1894  Economy / Economics / Re: Smart people support Socialism. on: October 12, 2018, 08:28:28 AM
The wealthy people sabotaged the attempts at socialism.  They wanted socialism to fail around the world so they can keep their wealth and continue to dominate poor people.

Sabotaged is not a great description because any system which is going to encompass an entire country is going to require resilience and stand the test of time over many generations in order that we can draw the conclusion it has a worth and basis to value it within the laws of a country.
If socialism is that easily hijacked by a small but well funded section of society then it appears it does not qualify as safe to trust for the many millions who must work and sleep under its banner through all the stages of their lives.

Capitalism on the other hand is on the simple basis of free enterprise, available to all through human ingenuity.  At present most western countries compromised capitalism with over 50% of GDP caught in a super structure of government, thats not free enterprise




It's similar to how Bitcoin is awesomely resilient against attacks. Basically the better the incentives are to keep a system working the longer it will survive.

Capitalism will always prevail due crab in a bucket mentality of masses, masses always fail to cooperate to dethrone their masters, most of the smartest people will end up working for the elite. And when they do, new masters are formed replacing previous masters and the cycle goes on.

I would only start questioning Capitalism on the very long term, perhaps 1000 years from now humanity has somehow reached levels of cooperation never fathomed in current times that will make us look like inbreed savages. Until then, Bitcoin seems to be the thing that makes the most sense within the capitalist framework.


30-40 years at most


And bitcoin is not resilient at all, its actually manipulated all the time

And also BTC seems to work best in socialist framework, Venezuelans use crypto a lot
1895  Economy / Economics / Re: Smart people support Socialism. on: October 11, 2018, 06:19:52 PM
Einstein supported socialism.

Pyschos like Trump support capitalism.


The type of "socialism" Einstein supported, wasn't single party totalitarianism. I think Einstein supported a planned economy and other elements of socialism. A case could be made for him supporting the type of mixed economy most nations have today where the government manages some things like defense and healthcare, while maintaining aspects of capitalism. But to be honest, I'm not 100% remembering everything about this clearly.

In terms of history, the cold war was an excellent example of socialism (USSR) versus capitalism (USA). We saw the outcome of that. Socialist USSR died. Many unfortunate russians lost their state funded pension programs & benefits when this occurred. Capitalist USA continued to prosper.

We might see something similar happen in the future. Socialist china could die off the same way socialist USSR did. Capitalist america could continue as the world's dominant power. The reactions of china's leaders and the fragility of china's economy is being made manifest could hint @ this outcome.

You can call Trump names and say negative things about him but the truth is capitalism and the USA may well continue to prosper when socialist china is crumbling into irrelevence.

American success is based on army and fake petro dollar...remove army and you'd be one of the worst countries to live on the planet
1896  Economy / Economics / Re: Smart people support Socialism. on: October 11, 2018, 06:13:15 PM
I myself grew up in the USSR. I know well the ideology of socialism, and from today's position I can say that socialism is just a utopia, an unfulfilled dream of idiots.

there is no singular "ideology of socialism". on the contrary, it's a diverse range of ideologies that includes anarchism, democratic socialism and autonomism among other schools of thought. the USSR and marxism-leninism are not representative of socialism at all. that's a common rhetorical ploy that anti-socialists often employ---"look at how bad stalin was! stalin called himself a socialist! that must mean all socialists are stalinists!"

it's totally illogical, but it works on a really basic level. it's hard to have an honest discussion about the merits of various socialist ideologies when these kinds of rhetorical devices are so rampant. in truth, many marxists actually see ideologies like stalinism and maoism as a perversion of marxist theory.


Looking from historical standpoint, I tend to believe capitalists "forced" socialism into countries like Russia or Cambogia because
with such ideology and poor industrial development to support it, it was inevitable to end up in tirany, fulfilling its role
of scaring people in capitalist countries in a way you described - "look at how bad stalin was! stalin called himself a socialist! that must mean all socialists are stalinists!"

In my opinion, it should be recognized that socialism as an ideology opposing capitalism has long since exhausted itself. In fact, socialism has failed since the collapse of the USSR. In my opinion, the last country that still consistently supported socialist principles was Cuba. Now she is gradually returning from isolation to the industrialized countries. Other countries, such as North Korea, China, have long been combining a different ideology, although sometimes they don’t even want to admit this to themselves.


Lots of logical errors here...also, Marx said its inevitable that socialism starts first in most developed countries...capitalists themselves
recognized this the best, so they did everything to scare people, including supporting socialism in poor countries. many americans
have no idea that Khmer Rouge were mostly supported by USA, while socialist Vietnam toppled them from power
1897  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Sia - Decentralized Storage on: October 11, 2018, 09:59:44 AM
Yes its true that SIA mine have tons of hash power after the fork and the forked coin might provide some value but it depends on developement in my opinion.

I honestly don't think Bitmain is capable of providing developement for SIA, unless they recruit some 3rd party developers.

Most likely it will have value at the beginning and then it will slowly dwindle down when people notice that the forked coin is going nowhere.


Exactly my thoughts, althogh SIA guys surprised me saying that they'll give their code to 3rd parties (making it free)
1898  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Bitcoin $3500 ponovo? on: October 11, 2018, 06:40:50 AM
U ovoj godini tesko, ipak 3,5K deluje smesno u ovom trenutku. Mislim da ce kitovi podici cenu btc-a pred kraj godine kako bi se novi ljudi uveli u kripto svet. Znaci mali bull u 11-12 mesecu a onda nastavak bear-a u 2019. godini. Voleo bi da gresim ali tesko da ce btc grunuti na 20k pre 2022. Srecno svim trejderima...

Padnimo ispod 5800 i 3000 izgleda poprilično realno.
Slažem se da sad situacija izgleda dosta bolje nego prošli mjesec, čak me lovi lagani optimizam. Iako moram priznati da ne očekujem neki veliki bull run.

Mislim da je uopće bez veze govoriti o bilo kakvim predviđanjima, u situaciji kad su manipulacije na sve strane...sve ove TA analize padaju u vodu kad dođe neko sa ozbiljnom lovom
i počne kupovati ili prodavati, kao XRP zadnjih mjesec dana

Nije baš tako. Analiza je tu da smanji tvoj rizik prilikom trgovanja i da ti pomogne da ne trguješ na slijepo. Neće ti nikada moći reći do kuda će cijena ići ali svakako ti može ponuditi neke zone od interesa.
Ripple? Evo, pogledaj - staviti ću ti i BTC i USD charteve na kojima se odlično vidi trigger prvog resistancea i reakcija na njega:



A eto već mjesec dana čitam o "BTC bullish breakout" i 90% TA kažu da treba kupovati, a onda nas dočeka ovo jutros  Grin

https://ethereumworldnews.com/bitcoin-btc-price-analysis-bullish-breakout-finally-happening/
https://www.newsbtc.com/2018/10/08/bitcoin-btc-price-watch-is-that-a-bullish-breakout-yet/
https://www.newsbtc.com/2018/09/28/bitcoin-btc-price-watch-bullish-breakout-alert/
https://admiralmarkets.com.hr/analytics/technical-analysis/btc-usd-bullish-pennant-hints-for-a-breakout
https://www.tradingview.com/chart/BTCUSD/fXE2jDKC-BTC-Bullish-Breakout-Soon/
1899  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Kvalitetne Android aplikacije za pomoć sa cryptom on: October 10, 2018, 08:14:14 PM
Ne radi ovaj prvi link pod edukacija. Inače koristim skoro sve navedene aplikacije.

Čudno, meni radi normalno...možda ovisi iz koje države pokušavaš instaliranje?
1900  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Kvalitetne Android aplikacije za pomoć sa cryptom on: October 10, 2018, 08:12:50 PM
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