In the "real" world, yes. But in my experience in cryptoland the market cap based on 5% value and 95% hype and market manipulation.

While I understand that my investments value is unchanged, I'm getting less than happy about this.
Growing the market cap from this level will be much harder.

Also, I controled like 3% of all Crypti supply, not so much with Lisk.

Source?

How about not posting the same huge image twice on the same page? Especially with idiots all around who quote large posts for one sentence replies.

Usually I hate FUDers but honestly, I find LISKisSCAMs' posts entertaining.
I feel like this just doesn't come naturally to him, and has to put a lot of effort into every one of his posts.
Every time I have an urge to pat his head and say "there, there keep it up, you'll get better at this".

I disagree, I don't think this is Litoshi. As I stated before, I'm not a fan of his, but this doesn't seem like his style.
He like to show how smart and important he is, someone how's time is valuable. (which I'm fine with, I don't think these are negative characteristics, at least in moderation)

So I think he wound't waste his time like this.
If he would, he would be far more subtle.

Look, guys. I understand if someone have questions and concerns about the ICO the future of the funds, the devs, etc. I know it's not reasonable to ask someone to read 100+ pages to research the possibly answers.

The problem is that if you have a basic question you can be pretty sure it was already asked and answered more than once. You are wasting everyones' time asking them and expecting detailed answers.
If you just joined the thread and will follow from now on you'll be annoyed too in a week when you'll see the same questions asked over and over.

If I may suggest, just go to LiskHQs profile and look at his posts. Most answers had to have come from him anyway. You don't even have to read all posts just skim them, or use search for key words from your question.

(Yes, I know very well this post is pointless, I just couldn't help myself, having one of those days.)

I wasn't talking about you, but the original poster of the quote. I named him.
And you shouldn't read all the thread, but I don't think it's that much to ask to read a page or two before and after a linked post that you are asking about.

They don't respond, because it's unnecessary. It's a quote from page 11, so it's a reasonable assumption that anyone who quotes it has read the few previous and next pages around that, so they are just provoking (telling username,  LISKisSCAM).
Why should they respond every time when someone brings it up again and again? It was answered, responded to and their position cleared way back then. Anyone interested should go back and read what happened. Don't just read the linked post but the whole conversation.

750 BTC was collected. The ICO was capped, or it would've been much more.
It was long ago, but i think launch price was around 800 sat, the highest was somewhere close to 3000 i believe. I think it would've kept going higher, but a scalability issue was discovered with the original consensus mechanism. A big chunk of the crypti code had to be redone, resulting in low prices and low volume after a few months.

What are you smoking and can I have some?

Let's be honest, the amount of BTC collected is a suprise, and not a small one.
When, after the first few days I seen just how successful this ICO'll be, I wanted to bring up the fixed 8 million Lisk as an issue.

But after some thought I decided not to bring it up, instead asked about plans for spending the collected BTC. Because I believe that when someone runs his own project/business their true financial rewards should come when and if the project is successful.

So I think the 8 million Lisk is more than fair. However the success of the ICO, and therefore the increased market value of their Lisk, should be reflected on the salaries being paid for Max and Oliver going forward. If I see market rate or above salaries for their work I'll be pissed. While it sounds fair at first to pay themselves competitive wages, it's not really the case IMHO. Those rates would result in more than half (SWAG, I'm too lazy to look up german wages) of the ICO funds being paid out as salaries within two years. Then...Crypti redux.

I'm not saying that they should starve, but let's just say if it would up to me I would keep them hungry, metaphorically.
But as they will have complete control over the collected funds, it's all up for their discretion.

You couldn't actually, as there is only 15 million BTC in circulation and the ICO has 85 million Lisk.
Theoretically.

Escrow, we were talking about escrow in connection to the lawyer. Try to keep up.

You have some problems with reading comprehension I'm afraid.

More than that, is should be required. I want proof too, in a reasonable time and manner.
Trust, but verify.

Got it, you are unreasonable. bye

I think at this point everyone is pretty tired of answering the same questions over and over, plus the way you were screaming none felt the need to point out that the reason (as it was stated more than once) that there is no btc address is that they are using a coinbase multisign account. They posted screenshots of this account, but as coinbase don't provide an actual btc address they can't give it to you.

Your fear is not unfounded, at I myself will want to see a verifiable account at some point, I'm not that worried about this. Simply because to the ICO intake to not to be true would be too shortsided. It would come out within a few weeks, and even if they'd want to cheat us, there are much better and safer ways long term, some that can never be proven.

So screaming scam about this issue is pretty pointless IMHO.

How about we use some logic?
1. We know who LiskHQ is. People met Max Kordek before on conferences, meetups, etc.
2. Max says Iudica is Axel Hellinger, a lawyer.
3. If that is true, he is trustworthy (You could dispute that a lawyer would risk his carrier on this, but it would be pointless, and would end my discussion with you.)
4. The claim that Axel Hellinger is who he says he is and really involved with Lisk escrow can be checked by anyone who is not just a keyboard warrior, it's a few phone calls. This means even if Max would want to cheat anyone this would be way too much risk to try to lie about. There are much better ways.

If you seriously feel this is not safe, then you should get back your 0.1 BTC investment and run.

I have one question however. Every time (seriously, every single time) Axel is refered to as a "german lawyer" never just a lawyer. I find it amusing, like the german part is some kind of qualifier.

Yes, and they are also consorting with alien space nazis!