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Proposal:
https://forum.biblepay.org/index.php?topic=83.0We were rejected again by Theymos, Bitcointalk Forum Admin, on June 20th
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4471292.msg40517470#msg40517470I've decided that masternode coins can sometimes be acceptable, but Biblepay seems highly deceptive.
For example, you say "10% of the emission goes to sponsoring Orphans, with provable contributions," but:
- 10% of the monthly emission should be somewhere around 6 million coins, but the monthly trade volume tends to be
only slightly higher than this, which is unbelievable if you're actually selling the coins in order to make donations.
- This 10% goes to a hardcoded non-multisig address with no explanation.
- "THE COIN HAS RPC COMMANDS THAT PROVE 100% OF CONTRIBUTIONS ARE SPENT THE WAY INTENDED" is completely false.
The RPC command just totals up all of the payments to the hardcoded address.
What happens after the coins go to that address is unexplained.
- There is no non-profit registration, receipts for donations, any info about the people who are supposedly facilitating donations, etc.
Biblepay looks like a generic coin with hardcoded dev subsidy plus some probably-totally-fabricated marketing about orphans.
I posted the bad news in the forum and we had more conversation:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2388064.msg40625636#msg40625636Here are my collection of notes below,
is there anything more we can add?
is there a better way to organize the information?
Did you talk with Theymos further Rob?
Should I try contacting Theymos again, with this summary below?
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BiblePay Team:
https://www.biblepay.org/cryptoguru/#_teamBiblePay Foundation - Non-Profit Texas Corporation (In Development):
https://wiki.biblepay.org/BiblePay_DAOBiblePay White Paper:
https://pool.biblepay.org/Docs/BiblePay_White_Paper.pdf===
What Evidence/Proof does BiblePay have of 10% Charity Donations?
Accountability: http://accountability.biblepay.org/====================================
CHARITY #1
Compassion International
https://www.compassion.com/"All of our Actual Orphan ID #s are listed in:
http://pool.biblepay.org/ >>> "Orphans" >>> "Sponsored Orphan List"
Also, the receipts I posted in EXPENSES are the actual payments I made on my credit card.
I have a copy here in case the IRS comes to my house." -Rob (Creator)
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COMPASSION INTL
ORGANIZATION NAME: BIBLEPAY
ACCOUNT #: 07816292
PHONE# : (800) 336-7676
HOURS: Monday through Friday, 7 a.m. to 5:30 p.m.
Mailing address: Compassion International Colorado Springs, CO 80997
ORG CONTACT: ROBERT A.
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thesnat21 called Compassion, confirmed 305 orphan sponsorships:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2388064.msg40663169#msg40663169Brian879 called Compassion, confirmed 308 orphan sponsorships:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2388064.msg40664957#msg40664957==
Contact:
Ginger Langehennig
Area Director of Donor Relations
https://www.linkedin.com/in/ginger-langehennig-4b31981b/832-797-3749 or
glangehennig@us.ci.org Proposals:
December -
https://forum.biblepay.org/index.php?topic=53.0February -
https://forum.biblepay.org/index.php?topic=105.0March -
https://forum.biblepay.org/index.php?topic=137.0April -
https://forum.biblepay.org/index.php?topic=162.0May -
https://forum.biblepay.org/index.php?topic=181.0June -
https://forum.biblepay.org/index.php?topic=195.0July -
https://forum.biblepay.org/index.php?topic=214.0August -
https://forum.biblepay.org/index.php?topic=229.0Pictures:
https://pool.biblepay.org/ >>> Orphans >>> Sponsored Orphan List
Tmike talking to Ginger from Compassion:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2388064.msg39981340#msg39981340Rob's Scan of Ginger's Pamphlet:
http://pool.biblepay.org/san/mission/CompassionMeetingGinger.pdfStatement from Santiago “Jimmy” Mellado, President & CEO, Compassion International
https://medium.com/biblepay-news/charity-profile-compassion-international-75741753e1c8Letter Writing
BiblePay rewards BBP to write letters to the sponspored orphans through the biblepay pool website
https://pool.biblepay.org/ >>> "Orphans" tab >>> "Write Letter"
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CHARITY #2
BLOOM (Be Love Orphan Outreach Missions)
http://www.bloomworldwide.org/Contact:
Executive Director, April Wareham
aprilw@nhoom.orgProposals:
https://forum.biblepay.org/index.php?topic=73.0https://forum.biblepay.org/index.php?topic=150.0https://forum.biblepay.org/index.php?topic=186.0https://forum.biblepay.org/index.php?topic=219.0https://forum.biblepay.org/index.php?topic=227.0Pictures:
https://biblepaysponsorkids.tumblr.com/Facebook Mention:
https://www.facebook.com/Beloveorphanoutreach/posts/1603251943055348Newsletter Mention:
https://mailchi.mp/bceb933b9ea4/updates-straight-from-africaTestimonials from BLOOM and CameroonONE
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2388064.msg39527580#msg39527580====================================
CHARITY #3
CameroonONE
https://www.cameroonone.org/Contact:
Director of Operations, Todd Finklestone
Proposals:
https://forum.biblepay.org/index.php?topic=86.0Pictures:
https://www.facebook.com/CameroonONE/photos/2003983039625722https://forum.biblepay.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=86.0;attach=164;imagehttps://forum.biblepay.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=86.0;attach=166;imagehttps://forum.biblepay.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=86.0;attach=168;imageTwitter Mention:
https://twitter.com/CameroonONE/status/1010845995188588549====================================
CHARITY #4
Kairos Childrens Fund
https://www.facebook.com/kairoschildrensfund/https://kcf.winnegor.org/Contact:
Andrew Scribner
scribners@gmail.comProposals:
https://forum.biblepay.org/index.php?topic=201.0https://forum.biblepay.org/index.php?topic=226.0Pictures:
https://www.facebook.com/kairoschildrensfund/photos/2084557715144222https://www.facebook.com/kairoschildrensfund/photos/2084557528477574Website Mention:
https://kcf.winnegor.org/biblepay/====================================
MISC:
Orphan Collage (NOTE: 12MB file):
http://pool.biblepay.org/docs/SponsorshipsAugust2018.pdfBiblePay Proposals:
https://www.biblepay-central.org/en/proposals/Console Command:
Understanding BiblePay Governance:
http://wiki.biblepay.org/UnderstandingGovernance
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