I want to buy some FSBT with Credit Card, but the commission is to high.
The Fee is about 10%, that is not real.
Other possibilities to buy with FIAT?
Would it work out better to buy ETH/BTC wait for growth and then use the extra funds you have raised to buy some FSBT. This means instead of spending 10% on fees you can maybe use an extra 10% to purchase funds (obviously this all depends on the performance of ETH/BTC). If I understood it correctly, you mean to buy ETH or BTC now and then wait for it to go up and give some return then buy FSBT? But in that case FSBT is currently offering some bonus also which may not be available in future. I think he means instead of buying FSBT now with Credit Card and lose 10% commission charge he would get ETH/BTC now since it is low and wait for it to go up; then he will be selling and buying FSBT; he will end up buying more FSBT with the same original investment given ETH/BTC went up; the profit he made would add to the original investment to get more FSBT. |
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At the moment, 2,3mio SVD are sold. I think tonight or tomorrow morning at least 50% of tokens are sold. My purchased tokens are still pending, but I'll buy some more tokens tomorrow
is someone here with a confirmed purchase?
I still have not made my purchase to be honest but really happy with the progress so far; I know the token would released at a later date basically after the ICO but not sure what pending means; have you KYCd? |
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I found the answer what Luxcess is going to do with this 30% Fee. 10% will be spent on Marketing/Development. 9% will be spent on team operation.
1% will be charity. And 10% will be burn. Now this is interesting. Can someone explain what is the benefit of this 10%burn here?
Interesting; I am happy to see marketing is considered a decent portion and the fact that charity is taking an actual thought in the minds of the team. The burning of 10% would surely serve investors however I doubt that would serve the platform users. |
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some of us (including me) have wondered why you open so many offices. in the whitepaper I found the answer:
To get Luxcess closer to people, we are going to open many new offices in 2018, 2019
and 2020. There, people will have the opportunity to find out more about the Luxcess
Group, where our colleagues will always be available for your questions. In addition to
this, it will be possible to buy, sell or change LXC tokens in these offices.
I wonder if you can pay in cash for kryptos in the offices
Opening offices is fine. How can people buy LXC tokens there in the offices? Is that means, all unsold tokens are going to be sold like this? How does this work? If all the tokens are sold out, how they get new tokens? Opening offices has a lot to offer, some customers prefer one on one communication and yes, i believe that avenue can be created for people to easily purchase LXC or guidance to do so, they can also counsel clients on investment and provide the best that suit their portfolio, so is a good thing I still think it is a cost overhead; I think if that is the only reason i doubt it would serve much use. Unless of course it is needed for operations like what banks usually do or maybe for legal purposes since you will know in person where the money is coming from. |
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Is there more information available about the Forty Seven Bank Exchange?
It is mentioned in the WP that the 47B will provide foreign exchange services including bank to bank transfers, does this mean I can send funds to 47B Exchange directly from my Bank?
That is an interesting point! With my Bank account it takes to long to transfer FIAT to an Exchange. When I can send funds from my bank to my 47B account and then to the 47B Exchange, it will be an advantage. Yes that will be real advantage. Whitepaper mentioned about Transfers and Payments. It will be easy to quickly transfer resources from one fiat currency to another, or from fiat currency to a digital currency, or vice versa. So as per my understanding bank to bank possible but depend on the agreement between other banks and 47BK. Here are Payment Processing and Invoicing related services mentioned at white-paper- Forty Seven Bank will provide wide range of payment processing solutions to our business clients. E-commerce clients will have the possibility to easily accept payments on their web-pages, platforms, applications, games, etc. with easy to use and informative merchant cabinet/panel. They will have opportunity to accept payments in traditional fiat currencies via credit or debit cards (Visa, China UnionPay, MasterCard, Diners) and direct bank transfers. Apart from that, entrepreneurs will be able to accept payments in digital currencies with support of the bank which will provide clearing procedures. At the same time, the bank will provide convenient and eective invoicing services. Having all these services provided by Forty Seven Bank, companies will have the opportunity to substantially decrease costs, increase eective- ness of working procedures related to financial management and get access to wide audience of potential customers. Now all those services would be available to developers through the api; developers would be able to do automated operations on a layer on top of the infrastructure which I think is a real advantage here and as mentioned there isn't a real direct competition as of yet. I am really into the api deal. |
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some of us (including me) have wondered why you open so many offices. in the whitepaper I found the answer:
To get Luxcess closer to people, we are going to open many new offices in 2018, 2019
and 2020. There, people will have the opportunity to find out more about the Luxcess
Group, where our colleagues will always be available for your questions. In addition to
this, it will be possible to buy, sell or change LXC tokens in these offices.
I wonder if you can pay in cash for kryptos in the offices
Wouldn't this burden the platform? I mean you will end up moving cash with an overhead. I mean luxcess group would end up setting a fund just to supply those in-office purchases. If a person buys in office he is given tokens and that money has to get in somehow be it a bank account or the likes that does not come free. I am curious as to how this is planned out? |
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Sitting here watching the ico page is just astonishing their already over 2b coins sold, and its moving quite fast. I've actually taken to have the savedroid page open on my second monitor because i find it funny just how fast the millions of tokens keep getting sold, i continue to be impressed how well the demand is keeping up into the coming days. Doesn't appear to be letting up at all lol
The fact that the ICO is moving really fast is great. I know from other projects that I followed, that the number of tokens that get sold is huge right after the start of the ICO and then it drops drastically. It's nice to see, that the money keeps coming in for savedroid. they have now sold 33% of the tokens in 24h. the whole reservations are now sold, now it is to be seen, how long it takes for the remaining 67%. Of course, it was initially through the reservations very quickly. many had the worry to get no tokens (I had that too :-)) It will be rumored how fast the pre-ico went and how many tokens were sold in the first 24h. that will lead to fomo and then the rest of tokens are gone within a week :-) The statistic is impressive, approximately 20M € in 24 hours. In my opinion the ICO is sold out within a week. Might go a bit longer just due to the size of the hardcap but the fact is its astonishing to hit 20M in 24hr. Some of the other ICO's ive seen with a lot of excitement didn't come close to going this fast LOL! Another 100M tokens gone since i posted earlier today, its seriously comical watching the counter go. I'd imagine we will see a number of big purchases from whales purchasing up additional bulk coins to shore up their investments considering the popularity of the ICO so far. So we might see some big jumps over the next week Even it takes more than a week, in the end, it won't really matter how fast the whole Sale sold-out. From an investors point of view I wouldn't even be so upset if not all tokens were sold but burned (less tokens in circulation)  But because I want the savedroid team to have as much funds as possible to develop their platform, I hope they raise as much as possible. And I am convinced that can manage to sell all tokens. The ICO just started and there is still a lot of time left. There is a huge potential for this one; they only focused on starting in Germany and they have like 200k users and growing steadily. With the money raised I think they can achieve great things; I think they should set their own bank to manage fiat withdrawals. |
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This is awesome, the price just recovered and it's now at around 1.39 I hope that you guys bought during the dip a few days ago when it was sub 1$. Also take a look at this new interview with the CEO Michael Stollaire hosted by @officiallykeith This is the link to the youtube video : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fI0nVPLgJYY&feature=youtu.beReally great interview but it's a little bit long ( around 1 hour in total ) if you have the time then you should definitely check it out Yep, I said this last week to buy a load of BAR's around the ~$1 mark. Congrats if you got on board, almost 40% profit just off that, at current prices. I still think the crypto mark is going to grow and grow. If you're still in two minds about investing or not, take a look at this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAczAfeXvEoIt will give you a more of a understanding of the project goals and problems it will solve That's just a good example how fast the market situation can change. A few days ago we had some angry guy here in the thread, was upset that he bought Titanium and was happy that he sold-it. Should have sticked to his BARs  That is what you usually get when you invest short term. I think that is the result of the bad ICOs they have experiences. Investing should be done on the team and vision. I a project is to perform in the long term hodling is the best way to go. |
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How much hard cap here? I understand corretly, that hardcap is around 60 mln usd? why too much?
The hard cap is 6,000,000,000 SVD. Each SVD is equivalent to 0.01 euro, so the hard cap is 60 million euro. Why do you think that a hard cap of 60 million is too much? There have been several successful ICO's who were able to raise more than that, don't see why Savedroid won't be able to reach their hard cap too. successful for who? Investors or devs? Investors must have a potencial to growing. 10-20 mln - its great amoutn for development. It is a hard cap and any tokens unsold after the min cap of 50 million tokens are burnt. No other tokens would be minted under any scenario. Those tokens are all that can ever exist. The sale looks pretty good so far. |
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I like how 47 Bank is trying to attract banking app developers to its platform, a lot of money has shifted from traditional banks in the UK like Scottish Widows, Lloyds, Barclays and it has transferred to new banks like Monzo & Revolut.
I think this trend will continue as the apps and online banking is a lot more user friendly, quick and secure. So this is a great market for 47 Bank to try and be in the forefront of.
It is a great shift; I see it allowing for more creative fintech ideas that could facilitate smoother transactions than already is. A lot of those shifts are attributed to how the regulations are favoring and supporting more fintech companies like the PSD2 where banks should provide an accessible API and not be closed. |
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Add ban by facebook is a strange move on their part. They might have some reasons for that. But here it is about crypto facebook groups I think. I am not facebook is not going to ban those groups.
Airdrop round three? so I already missed two rounds. But I dont want to miss the third one. No one want to miss the free tokens like Luxcess. Hope I will be able to get some for free. Tell me about it, I actually knew about Airdrop number 2, but didn't know how to participate. I thought they would update their facebook post so I waited till I was informed the airdrop had been finished. Im check the Telegram now for updates related to the Airdrop There wasn't enough publicity for airdrop 2 a lot of people missed out.... I fear it will be same For airdrop 3 if there is any Next airdrop we will announce on every social media. Best regards. LuxcessGroup This was well recevied by the team and they are going to act on the publicity of their airdrop. This is very good thing. This shows that direct interaction with team is also possible here in bitcointalk. I implore the team to increase publicity, every available channel they have at their disposal should be used, the airdrop is another avenue to do so and like someone suggested earlier, the new form should contain a kind of question that will direct them to the whitepaper If I am not wrong, check once this below link posted here. They said Luxcess airdrop. But I am not sure this is real or some fake/scam. If its real then which is this ? I mean airdrop 1 or Airdrop 2? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2856750.0Not sure seems the account that created the thread is creepy; only 3 activity points; it is not like luxcess group don't have an official btt account. It is shady to me. If there isn't an official announcement on it than just avoid it and don't give away your email for free. |
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Hey guys, just want clarification as i heard somewhere that BAR will fork on a completely different blockchain then there will be a coin swap which will be 1bar = 10inggots or something like that then the total supply will be 600m, any insights to this and explanation,
So definitely at $1 price the price of bar will be divided by 10 and will be $0.1 but still the same value cause youhave 10inggots which will be $0.1 x 10 inggots is $1
But the supply is huge dont yu guys think?
And correct me if im wrong, was it in the white paper? The coin swapping?
https://tbis.io/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/TBIS-White-Paper-v2.7.pdfNothing mentioned about that kind of swap 1:10 the link of whitepaper is given above as I remembered I heard this news from you. From my point of view there is no reality into this news so that your info are wrong. Not sure where that is coming from; a link would be a appreciated; I doubt a fork would do titanium any good. Well they plan on launching the mvp around March as per the video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fI0nVPLgJYY&feature=youtu.be It seems the MVP is already in progress and not aware of a fork announcement. I mean I still can't understand the reason behind a fork at this point of time. |
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Payment succesfull and can't wait that I receive my Token in 3 to 5 days.
Is it possible to buy more Token, with a different payment method?
yeah, i got mine too! now pending for 3-5 days, but i can wait:-) of course you can buy more tokens now, you could also change the payment method yesterday. just log in and click on "buy tokens" I also think about to buy some more:-) It is pretty cool they allowed various methods; I was just checking out the sale progress and I can see all forms of crypto and fiat popping in the screen. I think the sale is going pretty well so far. I bet the team is all hyped. This is a great milestone achieved for the project. I don't expect any ROI from this ICO. The website and "whitepaper" is merely marketing to lure peole into investing but doesn't provide any technical details. Quite questionable project.
I think you should explain properly because constructive criticism is of utmost importance, how do you mean lure?, is their something you've heard or seen that the community don't know?, these are questions we need to know and i'm pretty sure the team or others will convince you otherwise, well, such comments come up every now and then, the whitepaper was really satisfactory to me, my personal opinion No, I don't have any additional knowledge. It's my personal impression after reviewing this project. IMO the information they provide lacks of substance. Compare the whitepaper of Bitcoin (or any other serious crypto project) with the "whitepaper" of Savedroid. Bitcoin's whitepaper is something you can call a whitepaper. What Savedroid presents is a marketing brochure that doesn't tell us anything except how great they are and how promising the future will be. You can read nothing about how their investment program or self-learning AI technology actually works. The roadmap is a joke. The graph with the expected token value and the constant pop-ups who just invested is what I call luring people into investing. The website is nothing but a huge collection of buzz words and name-dropping of "partners". Maybe their focus on marketing will be enough for a success but I'm highly skeptical that it will be worth investing. We should keep in mind that there is a secret of the trade and a technical specification. In the case of bitcoin you introducing a totally new concept you need to have all details out there; then no one used it and no one bother to even read. savedroid are not building a new technology like bitcoin they are going to adopt existing technologies. What is unique to them is the fact that they have been in business for some time now and the AI part of the saving platform. |
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Add ban by facebook is a strange move on their part. They might have some reasons for that. But here it is about crypto facebook groups I think. I am not facebook is not going to ban those groups.
Airdrop round three? so I already missed two rounds. But I dont want to miss the third one. No one want to miss the free tokens like Luxcess. Hope I will be able to get some for free. Tell me about it, I actually knew about Airdrop number 2, but didn't know how to participate. I thought they would update their facebook post so I waited till I was informed the airdrop had been finished. Im check the Telegram now for updates related to the Airdrop There wasn't enough publicity for airdrop 2 a lot of people missed out.... I fear it will be same For airdrop 3 if there is any Next airdrop we will announce on every social media. Best regards. LuxcessGroup This was well recevied by the team and they are going to act on the publicity of their airdrop. This is very good thing. This shows that direct interaction with team is also possible here in bitcointalk. I implore the team to increase publicity, every available channel they have at their disposal should be used, the airdrop is another avenue to do so and like someone suggested earlier, the new form should contain a kind of question that will direct them to the whitepaper That is what is really special about the crypto world you have several marketing schemes you can deploy; the airdrop has to be carefully planned to avoid weak hands effecting the price on exchanges later. It is great that tokens are crucial in the platform so you actually need it to ran different operations. which i think minimizes weak hands impact. |
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The 47 project plan is flexible and accommodating to both fiat and crypto.. Combining traditional banking system with modern cloud banking wow!. .. This is huge, as I keep on the white paper I see huge potential and opportunities... Hmmmm
It is great that someone is filling the gap; Developers need to get a fintech biz up and running quickly; you should see the overhead in doing it now; It is a real step forward enabling developers build "banks" on their platform. It is a real pain solved. |
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I've already wondered what I do when I really earn a lot of money with cryptocurrencies. 47BK could help me with the decision: I just set up my own bank :-) the possibility to build my bank based on their platform is really fascinating.
And that is not the only possibility that offers itself here, but I have to read a lot of information now. how could 47BK stay under my radar for so long?
I really like the idea that I have my own Bank Account Management, Deposit and Loans, Investments and Brokerage and Others in one app sounds good. Having your own bank is awesome xD. But really important question though what will happen when the funds are stolen ? Will the devs give the money back to the investors ? This is really important to know. wich funds to you mean, the funds that deposit my potential customers in my bank opened by me? think for that I would be responsible or do you mean the deposits at the ico? I believe ICO investments will be replaced by 47BK should they be stolen. it's all about their reputation I don't think he talks about the ICO money (which they probably have an insurance in case it gets stolen). The question needs to be more specific though as I'm not quite sure I understand what he means. Which funds are stolen exactly? Once people set their own networks on the blockchain, 47BK won't have any control on their tokens or funds, that's the whole point of decentralized network. Please be more specific so we can try to answer the question. I do not think that is an issue for multiple reasons; their implementation of OAuth 2 protocol to authorize bank access to account which also means that you can revoke access anytime. There are many details to this point and I think it is one of the strong suits of seventy four bank so inherently you are adopting european PSD2 which enables bank users to use third-party providers to manage their finances so it has to conform to a set of standards especially security features. Forty Seven also allows biometric SDK for biometric authentication. Oh ya let us not forget the Access control on the API level; They will adopting a strict policy to allow access and it is a must. I think the whole process is properly thought through and should not be a worry there. |
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how many tokens will be issued?
Total supply will be 35mio, on crowdsale 28mio. Figures are fantastic, it will increasingly support its existence, the more flying the number, the supply is very little I think, can be expensive someday. Yep the fact the supply is so small is one of the reasons i think the coin is surprisingly undervalued, we will very well see the price jump up as with most small cap coins especially those with actual products behind them. The current price is most certainly well below where it will eventually settle. I think you're right, the coin is undervalued due to its total supply @ 35,000,000 and any unsold coins will be burned. It's also quite appealing to see a pre-sale bonus of 12%. This is the highest % bonus you can achieve which in theory should lessen the impact and potential dumping upon exchanges which is obviously a plus for people who intend on holding! I will be holding and I look forward to May this year with the platform getting introduced You can look at it in another way. The higher the bonus, the more likely people will dump their coins right after the listing, as they would be able to make profits from the bonus. That's why I don't really like bonuses. However, 12% is not alot compared to 20% and even 30% in other ICO's, so this won't cause massive dumps I hope. This is true, I do think 12% is a fair bonus, I find it ridiculous when projects offer 50% early investor offers! This is when it leads to mass dumping on exchanges! 12% will still pull investors in but it wont make dumpers that much profit, nice forward thinking by Luxcess team. The track record is attractive enough but as stated It is a good incentive to attract potential investors let us also not forget the burning of token to happen to add to the value; I am curious to know the acceptance rate of current user base to crypto; I think there is a handful number of traditional traders who fear crypto; I think luxcess group would tackle that problem nicely bridging the two worlds. |
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Hi, as far as I understand You already have an existing customer base in Europe? Now about 200 thousand users are using your system?
Yes right. Thank you for such a quick response. What is the name of your system and in which countries do you work already? What kind of promotion platforms are you going to use? why should the price of your token grow? The name of our app is "savedroid", you can find it in the App Store as well as in Google Play. We're currently operating in Germany. Current promotion platforms are mainly organic growth and performance marketing like Facebook and Google, future plans will also add more display ads, influencers and so on. But at the end we'll be very iterative on this process and try it what works best, before we decide for a concrete allocation of marketing funds. The token model and it's potential growth is very well explaind on ico.savedroid.com/token dev, i tried to check the app on google play, and i saw feedbacks there which are negatives. and also, i noticed that the app is configured in german language. can i chnage it to english then? anyway, almost 2 billion SVD are already sold.. good job! and of course, keep counting.  I think it is fair to say that they actually reply to the negative comments and enhance those; I also think it is important to keep in mind that the project was able to get an investment early on around 2016 (here is the article http://finovate.com/savedroid-ag-completes-1-million-seed-round-announces-beta-launch/) to get that money on a seed round is not an easy task you will have to convince investors. I am certain those investors seen something and it is paying off good now. As always with technical bugs happen what matters is how fast the team reacts to those bugs.I think there is tremendous potential here. |
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This is awesome, the price just recovered and it's now at around 1.39 I hope that you guys bought during the dip a few days ago when it was sub 1$. Also take a look at this new interview with the CEO Michael Stollaire hosted by @officiallykeith This is the link to the youtube video : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fI0nVPLgJYY&feature=youtu.beReally great interview but it's a little bit long ( around 1 hour in total ) if you have the time then you should definitely check it out Yep, I said this last week to buy a load of BAR's around the ~$1 mark. Congrats if you got on board, almost 40% profit just off that, at current prices. I still think the crypto mark is going to grow and grow. If you're still in two minds about investing or not, take a look at this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAczAfeXvEoIt will give you a more of a understanding of the project goals and problems it will solve That's just a good example how fast the market situation can change. A few days ago we had some angry guy here in the thread, was upset that he bought Titanium and was happy that he sold-it. Should have sticked to his BARs Three partners coming. I am really curious to know who is. I have a feeling It is going to be a cloud provider? something like digital ocean or something. Michael said they will have great synergy so I am just speculating; now check the BAR raise. |
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Market is giving us exceptionally good opportunity to grab Titanium BARs at near ICO price. I personally think that this kind of price will not come again in the near future. BARs should recover very soon and reach new high.
titanium is in great demand we just wait it into bigger exchange when we can get more profit, just hold in a few months time maybe price will rise again. Yeah man we have already seen that. The bars were sold just in a few days. Pretty weird, but it is the truth. I agree that there are more people wanting to buy Titanium. Lets hope that it will get listed at a good exchange ! I don't hope, i know they will be listed in a good exchange, the project is huge, have you taken your time to watch titanium youtube videos?, Micheal is a genius with a good sense of humor and i don't think one or two exchanges will be able to handle the full weight of titanium , we are talking about a global phenomenon here Michael is doing things great and also in a very right way. I am yet to watch the video and sure there will be lots of information and interesting content. I can watch this during this weekend and definitely will post my view here. There is lot of information in the video but its very long. Its like watching movie. So I am trying to watch it in parts. Its worth to spend time when you invested money in BARs and need detailed information about project. Definitely worth the watch, but i agree the video is REALLY long, i too watching it in parts, but hey it's money we are dealing with here and their seems to be a lot the team wants to explain and get understanding out into the world on the project which i can appreciate. But definitely recommend them to release things like this in smaller bite size pieces that we can absorb more easily True; I salute the dedication put into it; I think Michael was open about several aspects i especially like the fact he openly stated that he is still involved on his other business handing over duties to his associate to focus on titanium. Titanium was a success and I think it is the right move to do to give a 100% |
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