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1521  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Who now owns Bitcoin.com ? on: April 09, 2012, 05:19:52 PM
Ben Milne is Satoshi and controls the relevant domain.


I'm a bit slow today, dwolla put tradehill out of business to get control of bitcoin.com? is that what you are saying

No, thats idiotic  Grin

I know tradehill had to cough it up due to its financial losses with Dwolla so who know owns the domain?
Tradehill had control of the domain contingent to their having a running exchange. When the exchange shut down, they lost the right to use the domain. The domain is privately registered, and Tradehill has stated that they wish to maintain the actual owner's privacy in the listing. They have additionally stated that it is being developed, and isn't just stagnating.

The owner of the domain has an agreement with Jered of TradeHill to use the domain, but he is not the only one working on it...all I can say

Secrecy doesn't exactly inspire confidence.

Do you use that same line on your first dates with women to get them in bed? Smiley
1522  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: [500-2,500+ BTC BOUNTY] NEW ZERO FEE Brokerage: Looking for Programmer, Designer on: April 09, 2012, 02:51:05 AM
BitAvenue aims to protect your privacy. We will NEVER allow ourselves to ask you for identification. Upon being FORCED, (we will resist being pressured) to do so by others, will we inform our userbase, return your funds, and close down.


I like this. Very John Galt-ish Wink

Make sure you're not in the US. I recommend forming it and/or hosting and/or running it from Guatemala, which has no reciprocal information treaty with the US (Hong Kong also good).

You should also build a backup or mirror of it that exists as a Tor hidden service.
1523  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Recommendation to Turntable.fm - thoughts? on: April 09, 2012, 02:41:34 AM

I'm going to try and get this image in front of them via some avenue. Anyone have connections to their staff?

1524  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Max Keiser Report on Bitcoins! 4/7/2012 on: April 08, 2012, 07:27:09 PM

A next move would be to get Alex Jones fully on board.


no way. gold bug. his audience and sponsors too.

I'm a gold bug, and I love Bitcoin.

Anyone who understands WHY gold is good money should "get it" with bitcoin. Those who like gold for the wrong reasons probably wont, but whatev.
1525  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Way to get an iPhone BTC app into the App Store on: April 08, 2012, 07:25:58 PM
Blockchain.info's wallet is now officially on the App Store, so people should just use that.

Many iphone/bitcoin users will not be tech-minded... so a weird "work around" would probably only serve to confuse. Bitcoin needs to be getting simpler, not more complicated, even though your solution achieves the goal of functionality.
1526  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Tomasz Kaye will make a Bitcoin Video on: April 08, 2012, 05:18:22 PM
I don't think bitcoin should be strongly associated with radical right-wing ideology.

Tell me cunicula, how Bitcoin is in any way associated with "radical right-wing ideology." And are you suggesting that libertarians are "right wing"?  Would you also suggest that as one approaches the radical right, one approaches fascist sympathies? Please address the discrepancy, as libertarians are the polar opposite of fascists. If you claim libertarians are radical right-wing, then fascists by definition cannot be.

1527  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Tomasz Kaye will make a Bitcoin Video on: April 08, 2012, 05:11:10 PM
Scientists and highly educated people are overwhelmingly liberal in outlook.

LOL... yes and a hundred years ago scientists and highly educated people were even more overwhelmingly white. And?

Nobody would argue that libertarians (ie those who disapprove of the initiation of force) aren't a fringe minority. Abolitionists of tyranny in all its forms tend to be a small and dedicated group, constantly mocked and chastised by a public majority unwilling to relinquish the yokes of slavery.
1528  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The responses I from Bitcoin discussions. on: April 08, 2012, 04:23:33 PM
People need to be more careful when using the term "backing" when referring to money. It has a very specific meaning but is usually perverted and causes lots of confusion.

"Backing" means that a party guarantees to exchange one asset for another upon redemption at a fixed rate. In the case of gold-backed USD, the banks guaranteed to give you gold in redemption for the paper, and this was at a fixed rate. Thus, the dollar was "backed" by gold. That's what backing means - a counterparty specifically promising to exchange one for the other at a certain rate.

Thus, Bitcoin is not backed by anything. Nor is gold backed by anything. Nor are dollars today backed by anything.

It is wrong to say that Bitcoin is "backed" by electricity, or cryptography, or the size of the Bitcoin economy. It is similarly wrong to say the USD is backed by the government, or by violence, etc. To do so is to pervert the term. Bitcoin is not backed by anything, and that is just fine, because it's a commodity unto itself and is valuable for its specific attributes. It needs no "backing" - it is a thing unto itself which we value. Same for gold.

If you find yourself in the position of saying Bitcoin is backed by something, change the term to say "Bitcoin is valuable because..." Or, "the USD is valuable because..." The answer to those sentences will be valid, and you won't be caught in the misnomer of "backing."
1529  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Tomasz Kaye will make a Bitcoin Video on: April 08, 2012, 12:03:31 AM
I would suggest the perfect crowdsourcing site, which can accept bitcoin donations:

http://piratemyfilm.com

I am still producing the bitcoin video that I fundraised through that, and its coming along very nicely!
Tell me, Sir,
will you make a financial gain on payments sent to "piratemyfilm"?
I believe they use Bit-Pay, in which case there is a fee unless they have been granted an exception for some reason.
Failing that, I see why you would promote this site (to pad your pocket, obviously), although full disclosure would be preferred. To be blunt, I would expect full disclosure from a man of your stature.

On behalf of the uninitiated,
Terry

Shut up Terry. Profit is good, not bad.

PirateMyFilm is a extremely appropriate tool for this project and I hope Tony makes a gazillion Bitcoins for producing such a wonderful system to enable easy and efficient payments through that site.

1530  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Tomasz Kaye will make a Bitcoin Video on: April 07, 2012, 11:13:24 PM
What's the length of this video?

If there isn't a perfect example of an already recorded narrative, it's probably best to create the perfect narrative for the purpose of the video. Meaning, make a script, and have it recorded by a quality voice actor.

I think for any video to come close to matching the professionalism or appeal of WeUseCoins, it cannot just be an excerpt from a pre-recorded speech or a mash-up of several such speeches. The narrative needs to be produced on target, and then the animation produced to the narrative.
1531  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Royal Canadian Mint just announced a new alternative to BitCoin on: April 07, 2012, 02:56:25 PM
The problem is that bitcoin-related commercial ventures are left up to small-scale entrepreneurs.

That's because nobody is sure of the legal ramifications. There is big money watching Bitcoin, but it's waiting on the sidelines until legal precedents are set. In the meantime, a significant infrastructure is being assembled by a small number of ideologically motivated hobbyists - and ironically this infrastructure will subsidize the larger players when they're ready to enter.

But the law needs to figure out in which ways it shall or shall not tyrannize Bitcoin before serious money is thrown at the experiment.
1532  Economy / Speculation / Re: Stagnation!!!! on: April 06, 2012, 09:37:22 PM
There are probably just as many tired of their money sitting in such a risky investment who have or are taking it out after having made a nice ROI (anyone who bought before May of last year).

I hope Proudhon some day understands that "taking your money out" can also mean selling worthless fiat and buying assets like Bitcoin. In fact, I've "cashed out" of fiat many times.

One should not assume that Bitcoin is the temporary value-holder and that everyone who owns it is just waiting to cash out. For many of us, the cash out happened, and that's why we own Bitcoin.
1533  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Royal Canadian Mint just announced a new alternative to BitCoin on: April 06, 2012, 08:59:37 PM
There were two features of Bitcoin which first made me so wild about it:

1) Decentralized - no party could prevent a transaction or freeze an account in any way.

2) New currency - was an entirely new currency, without perpetual debasement, not just a way to transfer USD, etc.

Without these two features, Bitcoin would be nothing. I think any "competitor" to Bitcoin without these two features will be feeble and irrelevant.

With that said, MintChip is somewhat exciting, and I hope it's successful as it will dovetail nicely with Bitcoin. Perhaps it will be one more bridge to Bitcoin that the peons can trample across as the global fiats fall apart.

Yes, but you are a libertarian asshat. Most regular people just want an easy way to send money with low fees.

I love that in order to not be an asshat I have to advocate coercion.  Roll Eyes

I have no doubt the short-term adoption of something like MintChip would be faster than Bitcoin. It's sponsored by the State and placed in a nice digestible package for the serfs. But I care not about the short term - I care about the long term narrative of monies, and that's why Bitcoin interests me a great deal, and MintChip less so. To solve real problems one needs to fix the foundation of the problem - and that foundation is fiat currency.

The serfs may digest MintChip more readily, but I have little doubt as to the nutritional content of that consumption.
1534  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Someone 'Anonymously' Sponsored Bitcoin at the Future of Money Conference. on: April 06, 2012, 08:49:57 PM
So is this just an opportunity for the speakers to pimp their companies, or is it an actual discussion of the future of money?

Both probably.
1535  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] A public company will build a huge Bitcoin Mining Operation (ASIC). on: April 06, 2012, 08:48:41 PM
I say go for it, Vlad!

Man, all this nonsense about monopolization again!! My goodness - I'll chalk it down to public education but I swear it's amazing how many people confuse the evils of coercive state-based monopolization with the non-issue of market-based centralization.

Markets move toward efficiency. If Vlad's venture is successful (profitable), then that's where the market's going. If we need to enforce inefficiency to protect bitcoin from "scary centralization" then the experiment already failed.

Every rational market actor should be trying to figure out how to mine more than anyone else. Nothing wrong with that, and I hope Vlad is wildly successful in his capitalistic endeavors. I see no reason to think Bitcoin will be weakened by its systems advancing forward. And if indeed Bitcoin is weakened merely by advancement, then we ought to discover this sooner rather than later, and Vlad is doing everyone a public service.

Kick ass Vlad, just don't use up all the world's electricity cause I still need coffee in the morning.
1536  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Royal Canadian Mint just announced a new alternative to BitCoin on: April 06, 2012, 08:07:28 PM
There were two features of Bitcoin which first made me so wild about it:

1) Decentralized - no party could prevent a transaction or freeze an account in any way.

2) New currency - was an entirely new currency, without perpetual debasement, not just a way to transfer USD, etc.

Without these two features, Bitcoin would be nothing. I think any "competitor" to Bitcoin without these two features will be feeble and irrelevant.

With that said, MintChip is somewhat exciting, and I hope it's successful as it will dovetail nicely with Bitcoin. Perhaps it will be one more bridge to Bitcoin that the peons can trample across as the global fiats fall apart.
1537  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Someone 'Anonymously' Sponsored Bitcoin at the Future of Money Conference. on: April 06, 2012, 07:31:04 PM
No disrespect to Jered, but it would be ever so nice if Evorhees could also make it as a speaker.

Awww shucks, thank you Smiley

I wish I could see the look on Ben Milne's face when he visits that page and discovers that not only is Jered Kenna speaking, but Bitcoin itself is a sponsor of the event! Hahahaha. Bitcoin is like the evil spirit from which Ben cannot escape. Bitcoin isn't even a company or organization, and yet its spirit has found a way to manifest itself in event sponsorship!!

Here's the thesis of their two speeches:

Ben: Hi, we made a cheaper paypal.

Jered: Hi, we're changing the game forever.
1538  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] Paytunia Bitcoin wallet released today! on: April 05, 2012, 08:21:39 PM

Beautiful design is not everything.
Isn't this a Bitcoin bank? We should not forget what happened with Mybitcoin. What prevents Paytunia from running away with my money?


True, beautiful design is not everything. But it's about damn time some bitcoin services finally had it.

What prevents any company from running away with your money (bitcoin related or otherwise)? Even before launching, Paytunia and the people behind it are much more credible. Skepticism is healthy, so just don't keep tons of money somewhere you're not sure of.
1539  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] Paytunia Bitcoin wallet released today! on: April 05, 2012, 08:18:47 PM

It says it can't be installed on my Samsung Galaxy S2 ... :\



That's weird, I'm using it on my Galaxy S2 without issue.
1540  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Free Market, a Real World Test Case on: April 05, 2012, 06:15:46 PM
Lol the great bitcoin economy indeed. The largest industry in BTC is drugs, followed by gambling, followed by porn, then a file trading site and a few people selling trinkets on bitmit. At least some of the banks are decent, not including MtGox.

Of course those industries most tyrannized by the State will be the first adopters of a currency which permits free individuals to remove themselves from that burden.

What's your point?

It should be expected that Bitcoin will move along a curve of adoption - with happy, complacent status quo markets being at the end of that curve, and disrupted, alienated markets being at the beginning.
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