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13821  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Hashers are not miners, and Bitcoin network doesn't need them. on: January 12, 2014, 05:00:56 AM
It is simply because p2pool involve another step of setting up a full node, which is not included in all the delivered ASIC miners. Being a full node need to download the whole blockchain and be online all the time, many people do not have that extra machine

If a miner receive his ASIC miners with a full node and p2pool configuration built in, then there will be more people running p2pool

Being online all the time is not the issue, as miners already have to do that. But p2pool installation, configuration, etc. is definitely an issue. If you want to help with decentralization, work on making that easier (along with the other issues I mentioned -- pretty charts, etc.)
13822  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Closed]R17x: Black Arrow Prospero X-3 <DZMC Exclusive> $130 / 40GHS on: January 11, 2014, 10:14:08 PM
Should be doing p2pool. For one thing, its (very) good for the network to take hash rate away from big centralized pools. For another, the payouts have been larger than centralized pools (p2pool has "good luck"). There is a theory that the decentralized nature of p2pool leads to fewer orphans.

The payouts are a bit lumpy but on the scale of group buy payouts (say twice a month) it smooths out pretty nicely. p2pool usually gets 1-2 blocks per day.

But I'm not running things here so that is just my 2c as a small share holder.

13823  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Hashers are not miners, and Bitcoin network doesn't need them. on: January 11, 2014, 09:44:57 PM
you cannot expect people to solo mine because at the current difficulty, most of the ppl will never close any block and hence won't ever cash in any coins.
displace bitcoin, maybe one that builds on top of bitcoin's distribution of wealth.

Sell it as a lottery or raffle. The current block size of about 20K USD is definitely attractive to a certain audience. In fact there is an audience for these prizes at pretty much any size, so this does scale. Sure most people get no coins, but imagine the fun of checking your miner and finding out that you mined/won the big jackpot.

Of course there is also an audience for wanting to see $0.17 worth of BTC "mined" each day slow and steady via a pool. But the larger the population of lottery players, the less significant the pools become. The world has shown conclusively that lotteries can organize billions of dollars worth of resources across millions of people, which is just what Bitcoin mining is supposed to do.
13824  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Hashers are not miners, and Bitcoin network doesn't need them. on: January 11, 2014, 09:15:44 PM
p2pool is the best solution we have right now. Working to promote it and improve it (for example with prettier graphs that miners like) is the best thing that can be done short term.

It is important to recognize that not everyone needs to adopt p2pool to help the problem a lot, or even solve it entirely. If p2pool hypothetically made up 50% of the network hash rate, then no other pool (or even a group of them secretly colluding) could possibly ever get over 50%. In fact every incremental gain made my p2pool makes the centralized (i.e. dangerous) pools smaller. p2pool at 10% would be a huge step (currently at 2%).

tldr: support p2pool.

One last thing.  It is entirely reasonable for small hobby miners to just solo mine. Yes it is high risk but people spend good money on lottery tickets, so no reason to not take shot on getting a full block (roughly 20K USD equivalent) if you are doing it for fun and not a business with bills to pay. People need to understand (and the OP deserves credit for trying to explain it) that this is not like folding@home or some other grid where accumulating numbers on a score ranking is the goal for a participant. If you want to help the network it is far better to solo mine.
13825  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [185 TH] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool on: January 11, 2014, 08:10:36 PM
Has anyone had experience running an Antminer on P2Pool. It's got a built in Gui I think very similar to Avalons. Currently I only know how to set up stratum based servers. Would I need to SSH and change the settings to mine P2P? Thanks!

I tried it with a couple of remote nodes (still tinkering with hardware to set up my own local node) but it did not work very well. I had around 50% or more reject rate. This was not with the latest firmware though.



13826  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [1300Th] Eligius: ASIC, no registration, no fee CPPSRB BTC + 105% PPS NMC, 877 # on: January 10, 2014, 11:51:45 PM
Are payouts backed up or stuck or is this something specific to my account?
 
13827  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: bfgminer stratum proxy on: January 10, 2014, 10:43:14 AM

The Ant Miners have an API? Where is that documented?

S1 have cgminer 3.8.5 embedded... so yeah they have. To access it you need to alter /etc/config/cgminer file

Thank you yes. I forgot about the cgminer api.
13828  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: bfgminer stratum proxy on: January 10, 2014, 01:51:18 AM
I gave up on bfgminer proxy and right now I`m working on a python script that (currently as a wip) move my miners (via api) on the most profitable (based on coinwarz.com api information) coin pool (defined by user).

I may decide to publish it if there is enough interest.

The Ant Miners have an API? Where is that documented?
13829  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: bfgminer stratum proxy on: January 09, 2014, 10:30:43 PM
I'm trying to get my ant miner S1's to work through bfgminer stratum proxy so I can control my pool in one spot rather than connecting to the web interface on each miner.  I start bfgminer with --stratum-port X then set pool 1 appropriately to IP:X on each miner. I have bfgminer configured with eligius as my first pool. The Ants seem to connect and show the pool as "alive." Bfgminer reports eligius as alive. But I get 100% rejects and bfgminer reports 100% HW errors. Ant miners work fine when connected to eligius (or most other pools) directly.

How can I debug (or fix) this? Not much in the way of debug output on the ant miner side.


Hi I have found a way round this
If you go to
[redacted]


That's missing the point. Let's say I decide [redacted] is the best thing since lap dances and program it into all of my miners. If I later decide [redacted] is not really that great for whatever reason, I have to go and reprogram all of my miners.  The idea is to have a central point on my own network and under my own control.
13830  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Invictus Innovations ProtoShares Cheat Sheet | CPU Mining on: January 09, 2014, 07:25:41 PM
The code is free - both as beer and speech. :-)

As in here: https://github.com/dave-andersen/cudapts

13831  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: 2600kh scrypt mining rig on: January 09, 2014, 04:20:06 AM
They use a corsair 850watt power supply for the motherboard and the pcie. They use a 1570 watt dell server power supply for all of the 6pin connectors.

I understand safety margin but still this seems a little overkill is it not? Ignoring non-GPU components that's ~400W per GPU.

Also, how efficient is the Dell PSU, as in how much do these draw from the wall?



13832  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Invictus Innovations ProtoShares Cheat Sheet | CPU Mining on: January 09, 2014, 02:02:58 AM
I'm not trying to troll.

And yet...you are still doing it.

Quote
I haven't tried it

What a surprise.

How about STFU unless you have some actual information.

He's released an open source miner. It is quite fast on high end cards, faster than any single CPU (although not dramatically so), but definitely much better than most CPUs in terms of $s/h and almost certainly in terms of J/h.

You were already wrong when you said "We're about to get Mtmlr'd" but now instead of admitting it you continue to dig deeper.

13833  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Yacoin needs your help! on: January 09, 2014, 01:47:29 AM
- Network hashrate has increased dramatically

The hash rate probably increased due to the new support in cudaminer. This is not a bad thing for the chain, as long as you get more people solo mining it.

13834  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: bfgminer stratum proxy on: January 08, 2014, 11:29:26 PM
I have tried with the same results.

you can`t fix this until bitman release v3.9.0 of the cgminer fork he is using

Oh right, I remember seeing that somewhere. Thanks.
13835  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Invictus Innovations ProtoShares Cheat Sheet | CPU Mining on: January 08, 2014, 11:28:53 PM
mtmlr posted source code too... :/

Did it work?

The point is, in this case, the miner has already been released. A lot of people have tried it and it works. There is no further room for suspicion. Use it if you like, improve it if you like, or none of the above. But stop trolling.
13836  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Setup & Troubleshoot] Bitmain AntMiner S1 180GH/S miner on: January 08, 2014, 11:08:41 PM
I'm trying to use bfgproxy to centralize my pool config.

Not sure this is an AntMiner specific issue but in case anyone here is interested:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=405889.msg4397778#msg4397778
13837  Bitcoin / Mining support / bfgminer stratum proxy on: January 08, 2014, 11:02:54 PM
I'm trying to get my ant miner S1's to work through bfgminer stratum proxy so I can control my pool in one spot rather than connecting to the web interface on each miner.  I start bfgminer with --stratum-port X then set pool 1 appropriately to IP:X on each miner. I have bfgminer configured with eligius as my first pool. The Ants seem to connect and show the pool as "alive." Bfgminer reports eligius as alive. But I get 100% rejects and bfgminer reports 100% HW errors. Ant miners work fine when connected to eligius (or most other pools) directly.

How can I debug (or fix) this? Not much in the way of debug output on the ant miner side.

13838  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Invictus Innovations ProtoShares Cheat Sheet | CPU Mining on: January 08, 2014, 10:45:05 PM
I wasn't trolling. I'm really suspicious.

The code is on github now. Suspicion of scammers is reasonable, but at this point, its time to drop it here.



I'm not trying to troll. It's just... cant help but feel paranoid. MTMLR was legit too. he made all of reaper, which people actually used!

Okay now it is clear you are trolling. If you don't want to troll then you have some kind of compulsion, because you are doing it anyway.

The SOURCE code is on github. What more can I say.

Just....Stop....

13839  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Invictus Innovations ProtoShares Cheat Sheet | CPU Mining on: January 08, 2014, 09:05:57 PM
I wasn't trolling. I'm really suspicious.

The code is on github now. Suspicion of scammers is reasonable, but at this point, its time to drop it here.

13840  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [117 TH] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool on: January 08, 2014, 08:16:32 PM
I'd tried to talk wizkid into paying 99% of PPS to the regular share queue and have the remaining 1% set aside and moved to a queue which is only paid after all the pay before it was paid out, but he was worried that other pools would claim that it was a fee.

Why not just dump the oldest 25 BTC worth of shares from the log when you get an orphan? The orphan happened, so 25 BTC worth of shares is worthless and the pool isn't getting that value back ever. That's makes it sort of a PPLN with a very large N, while retaining the low variance of their method.

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