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13781  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: FreeTrade's Guide To Altcoin Investing • [DOGE] • Very Bubble • Much Pop on: January 25, 2014, 10:32:26 PM
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When ordering via BitPay with Bitcoin, you'll get immediate confirmation. Retail merchants will offload the risk of double spends to third party processors

As I understand it (someone please correct me if I'm wrong) when merchants opt for immediate confirmation with Bitpay, it is the merchant, not Bitpay who accepts the risk. This is viable small amounts and for orders that are revokable (i.e. if you double spend they just cancel your order and don't ship), but not for everything.

Also, even "offloading" the risk means the risk will get priced into processing fees, raising costs.
 
The real reason that fast confirm times are useless is that it means you just need more confirms to guard effectively against orphans and double spends. So in that sense yes, it is a waste of resources in order to impress people who don't really understand the issues.



13782  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: WTC BTC for PS$ on: January 25, 2014, 04:37:51 AM
I am buying via skrill. You can deposit into PS from skrill.

Don't have skrill set up, some red tape involved with blocking it (or at least slowing it down) at this point.
13783  Economy / Currency exchange / WTS BTC for PS$ on: January 25, 2014, 12:06:33 AM
I want to sell BTC at bitstamp plus 5% and get paid by player transfer on PS. You send first. You can rely on my ratings here or on otc or localbitcoins to establish trust, and I would also like to start with a smaller trade with larger trades to follow. PM
13784  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [185 TH] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool on: January 24, 2014, 12:57:53 PM
I am not sure where you get 23$ a day from?

I just punched 100 GH into a mining calculator to get a sense of the magnitude of current mining earnings for that hash rate. Obviously this fluctuates all the time with exchange rate (and to being with depends on which exchange rate you use, etc.), so just treat it as an approximate number.

13785  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [185 TH] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool on: January 24, 2014, 12:54:31 PM
With 120Gh -> 0-3 shares a day, one orphan means 30-50% off.

No, it really doesn't. Everyone on p2pool has orphans. That's the nature of a block chain with a 30 second target, and is unavoidable. The p2pool shares are just used to divide up the bitcoins (as with other pools). As long as your orphan rate isn't higher than others', you get your fair share of the bitcoins.

Yes there is variance. You might get an orphan, which makes your earnings go down in the short run. But others are also constantly getting orphans, which makes your earnings go up.  With a little patiences it balances out and ends up in your favor.

If you want immediate gratification, yes go ahead look elsewhere. If you want better returns over time, stay with p2pool.


13786  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [185 TH] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool on: January 24, 2014, 08:21:59 AM
If I were to set the pseudoshare difficulty to the share difficulty [currently 873000], is there any downside?

One downside is that you won't see any evidence if things aren't working. In fact I'm not sure how the miners work exactly but it seems like they might not failover under some conditions if they don't have the opportunity to try get new work and have it fail, so your miners might continue mining on a down pool.

13787  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [185 TH] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool on: January 24, 2014, 06:16:18 AM
You were not "losing day by day." What you had was the normal random fluctuations (and not even that much fluctuation).  From the 14th to the 16th your earnings went up, then from the 16th to the 18th they went down. Overall you probably got about what you were supposed to. If you stick with it your earnings will continue to go up and down a little, and again you will get about what you are supposed to (which is more than other pools since you won't pay pool fees, and won't ever suffer losses from a pool being dishonest or getting hacked).

p2pool earnings with 120gh - its easy to notice that I was loosing day by day - little but still loosing

2014-01-19 17:13:20
0.00477012 BTC

2014-01-18 23:41:08
0.00479305 BTC
0.00477196 BTC

2014-01-17 06:18:47
0.01245325 BTC

2014-01-16 12:55:33
0.02006893 BTC

2014-01-15 11:45:28
0.01547546 BTC
0.0154557 BTC
0.01545295 BTC

2014-01-14 19:14:27
0.0041062 BTC
0.00410603 BTC






13788  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [185 TH] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool on: January 24, 2014, 05:39:52 AM
I wonder why theres not 5000 miners on p2pool, is it because of people cant do the math. Or is it because the difficulty rises every ~10 days and time is money?
Or what do you think the reason might be?

Put that way, the answer has to be that people can't do math.

Difficulty rising will reduce your earnings no matter how you mine. Unless of course you upgrade, which is what a lot of people end up doing (otherwise you won't me a miner for long), in which case again you are looking at a long term proposition to smooth out short term fluctuations in your earnings.

13789  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [185 TH] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool on: January 24, 2014, 04:54:44 AM
100 Gh isnt enough to be mining on a p2pool

Sigh, this same myth keeps getting repeated over and over again.  100 GH (or really any GH) is just fine with p2pool, as long as you realize that your normal $23/day mining revenue will fluctuate from day to day, not get paid every single day like clockwork. Over the course of a few weeks you will get close to what you expect. It just requires a bit of patience.

The only real downside is that it takes some resources (computer, bandwidth, time) to run a p2pool node and maybe it isn't worth it for a $23/day operation.

13790  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: WTS- forty (40) 220GHs Bitcoin Miners on: January 24, 2014, 03:57:42 AM
220GHs
 1000watt each unit
 2.5W per Ghash

?
13791  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Setup & Troubleshoot] Bitmain AntMiner S1 180GH/S miner on: January 22, 2014, 07:08:23 AM
This is depend on the ambient temperate, mine running all at 49-52 C after OC really well, with 400Mhz and 393Mhz.

It shouldn't really depend on ambient temperature unless the fans are maxed out. (They might be if you are overclocking.) There is a temperature range defined in the config files somewhere, and the fan speed should adjust to stay in that range. When the ambient temperature goes up the fans should run faster and make more noise, but temps should still stay in the range. That's exactly what I see (and hear) on mine.
13792  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [185 TH] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool on: January 22, 2014, 02:15:05 AM
I guess a firewall rule limiting the # of simultaneous connections  would work?

If you are on linux and using iptables you can use the recent module to block IPs that attempt connections too fast. You are still vulnerable to DDOS but I guess that just goes with the territory of having anything open to the world.



13793  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [1700Th] Eligius: ASIC, no registration, no fee CPPSRB BTC + 105% PPS NMC, 877 # on: January 21, 2014, 11:07:10 PM
Well done WK, nice to see the stats working fully again.

+1!!!
13794  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [1700Th] Eligius: ASIC, no registration, no fee CPPSRB BTC + 105% PPS NMC, 877 # on: January 21, 2014, 11:06:36 PM
bfgminer connects but does not find the blade as an device

You need to start bfgminer with --http-port, also make sure there is no firewall (iptables, etc.) blocking your miners from connecting to that port.

13795  Economy / Securities / Re: [NastyFans.org] NASTY MINING | NASTY POOL on: January 21, 2014, 11:00:46 PM
In another month when we are looking to sell, I don't think pricing will be as favorable for these devices.

Most certainly they will be worth less, but I don't think they will drop to near zero in a month. I was throwing that out there a s point of reference, not specifically suggesting selling on eBay. I actually sold one small miner on eBay and it worked fine -- got a good price and all -- but I gave up after that, and went back to selling at lower prices on the forum for BTC. Too much stress to deal with all the ways I might get scammed by buyer/eBay/Paypal.

The mine-to-own concept is a fine one.

EDIT: I'd consider doing it mostly to help out the group and I have cheap electricity, but part of the deal would be that I supply the PSU, as I don't trust the BFL PSUs anywhere near my house.
13796  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Setup & Troubleshoot] Bitmain AntMiner S1 180GH/S miner on: January 21, 2014, 10:54:13 PM
just got my antminer, there sure is a lot of info to take in, i guess a lot of it can be ignored

just wondering if there are any options for selecting the active pool? or does it just follow the hierarchy selected under 'miner configuration'?

does it just do a simple failover from pool1 --->pool2----pool3 ?

or can you do tricks like load balancing between pools etc...

cant seem to find this anywhere...


thanks

Through the GUI you just get fail over as you described. I don't know what you might be able to do by editing config files in ssh.

13797  Economy / Securities / Re: [NastyFans.org] NASTY MINING | NASTY POOL on: January 21, 2014, 10:49:11 PM
I thought the same thing 12 months ago. History so far has proven us wrong.

Actually no, history has proven you (I'd say us except that I didn't make a prediction a year ago) right. Difficulty has not doubled every month. In fact it is now increasing by only about 60% per month. 

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Difficulty *will* double every month until the most efficient ASIC that is possible to create is only marginally profitable.

That would require the rate of increase in difficulty to increase, an unlikely (but certainly plausible) prediction.

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meanwhile our singles will be obsolete in June. (making less bitcoins than what it costs to mine in electricity)

Well, June maybe, that's 5 months out, not 3. And there will always be people with cheaper (all the way down to free) electricity, so they will never be fully unprofitable, just profitable to a smaller and smaller market (which affects resale value). I agree they don't have much value at that point.

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Efficiency will determine who will win the long term Bitcoin mining game.

True. "Long term" is a weasel word though. Nobody knows what that means in the real world.
13798  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [185 TH] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool on: January 21, 2014, 10:44:05 PM
I specifically wonder whether there is any value if having a local p2pool node that just talks to the VPS node.  That would reduce latency between the miners and the p2pool node, but would slightly increase latency between the miners and the rest of the p2pool network (due to the extra hop). Likewise if there is a local p2pool node, is there an advantage to also having a local bitcoind node, again connected only to the remote VPS bitcoind? That would reduce latency between p2pool and bitcoind (getblocktemplate) but again I'm not sure how much that matters.

13799  Economy / Securities / Re: [NastyFans.org] NASTY MINING | NASTY POOL on: January 21, 2014, 07:55:29 PM
They do seem to be worth a fair amount (active auction with 10 bids, high bid $1375): http://www.ebay.com/itm/BUTTERFLY-LABS-60GH-s-BFL-Single-ASIC-Bitcoin-Miner-IN-HAND-/231139562777

Edit: BTW I do not expect difficulty to double every month which is what would be required for these to become unprofitable in three months. In fact difficulty increases have been running closer to 60% for the past few months. Yes TH+ rigs are coming but most of the manufacturers probably premine with their gear so if they were going to ship soon we would already see that hash rate on the network (in fact we probably do). Absent some extraordinary price jumps, I expect the monthly rate of increase in difficulty to continue to decline over the next year or so to something like 10-15%.



13800  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [185 TH] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool on: January 21, 2014, 04:33:12 AM
That's a decent idea about running a VPS for a bitcoind relay.  I could stick p2pool on there too while I'm at it.

I like this idea of a VPS with the p2pool and bitcoind nodes on it. Will probably be trying that in the new few days. Anyone else have any tips on doing it?



There's a Bitcoin tutorial for digital ocean

I know how to set up bitcoind on a VPS generally. Just wondering about the p2pool aspect of it. For example, is it better to have bitcoin and/or p2pool local nodes that connect to their counterparts on the VPS or just have the miners connect directly to p2pool+bitcoind on the VPS?
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