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1561  Economy / Gambling / Re: Question/opinions on pocketdice's claim of provably fair. on: June 02, 2015, 02:45:17 PM
In a truly-fair array of 30 random numbers 1-6, the crucial property is that you cannot predict at all how many times each number should be represented.  In a single draw of 30 random numbers, if they're truly random, they might be all 1s, you don't know untill you draw.  Now, if the numbers are truly random then the long-term expected average distribution should approach an equal distribution of 1,2,3,4,5,6 as you sample size approaches infinity.  But it's simply not correct to say that if you draw 30 random numbers from 1-6 that you can expect to find them equally distributed---that would be a decidely non-random distribution.

Correct. But the main problem I see here is that the generation process of that 30 numbers is not described clearly.
The site may be doing it fairly, or may be not. We simply don't know about that, and so it is not provably fair.

I see (better now), thanks.  I wanted to clarify that part of the OP just to make sure I wasn't completely misunderstanding.

Yep. WHile you're right, it could be all 1's - since the generation of THOSE numbers is, as they put it, "random" it could be anything, including intentionally skewing the weight of numbers in their favor based on your betting history.
Actually, intentially skewing would be a form of non-random.  I just think it's crucial to get the terms right in these sorts of conversations to avoid confusino
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Until those numbers are provably fair, the entire system isn't.
Yes, I understand the issue now.

1562  Economy / Gambling / Re: Primedice.com | Most Popular & Trusted Bitcoin Game | Huge Community | Free BTC on: June 02, 2015, 02:42:31 PM
That guy must be logging in typing captchas logging out and in again on another one and so on on all 30 accounts.

McDonald's  seems more appealing than this lol.

Nah they actually do other thing.

I mean its ok to claim faucet gamble it up to 50k than tip to ur bank acc so u dont pay for fee each time.

But what they do is something else.
And its very abusive and stupid. And coz of people like that primedice cant do all the awesome giveaways and other stuff that they would like to do.

They ruin it for everybody.

And yes i muted lots of them for 1 hour so they cant tip during happy hour but it shoulda been permanent mute for abusing .

If there is to much abusing they will just stop doing happy hours.

What is he doing?  I thought you had to gamble like 0.01 on each account in order to activate the faucet.  That seems like a lot of gambling to get 30 faucets going.  I don't get it.
1563  Economy / Gambling / Re: sawdice the New Age of Dice - Let's play a game. on: June 02, 2015, 06:30:37 AM
if they were a scam i dont think they would give news about their website and problems they have


Why not? They almost never just say "OK, you were right, it was a scam". There are always vaguely plausible excuses: "a rogue employee deployed a nonce-skipper", "transaction maleability drained the cold wallets", "our site was hacked", etc. dice.ninja was the cleanest in that respect - they just disappeared one day and that was that.

I guess we shoulda seen that coming. Aren't ninjas known for silent entries and exits?  :0

I'm with you on this one dooglus, this site seems pretty sketchy.  I wouldn't deposit here.
1564  Economy / Gambling / Re: Primedice.com | Most Popular & Trusted Bitcoin Game | Huge Community | Free BTC on: June 02, 2015, 06:27:02 AM
Happy hour !!!

Sorry i just got up not much time left but this is the big one! Exstra 20000 sats per claim!

Its over i think Sad

It is not yet over , jump in quickly for an extra of 20k satoshi/claim. Who knows that you may be lucky to hit the 9900x with this faucet  Tongue. 180 seconds for every claim is not a bad idea, still faster than any other site around here

Actually it is over.  At least for me, and everyone else in chat right now.
1565  Economy / Gambling / Re: Primedice.com | Most Popular & Trusted Bitcoin Game | Huge Community | Free BTC on: June 02, 2015, 06:22:39 AM
Happy hour !!!

Sorry i just got up not much time left but this is the big one! Exstra 20000 sats per claim!

Cool, I'm jumping in.  Thanks for the tip MICRO!  I've never caught a PD happy hour before!

Yah, I just missed it.  Sadness Sad
1566  Economy / Gambling / Re: Question/opinions on pocketdice's claim of provably fair. on: June 02, 2015, 06:17:59 AM
In a truly-fair array of 30 random numbers 1-6, the crucial property is that you cannot predict at all how many times each number should be represented.  In a single draw of 30 random numbers, if they're truly random, they might be all 1s, you don't know untill you draw.  Now, if the numbers are truly random then the long-term expected average distribution should approach an equal distribution of 1,2,3,4,5,6 as you sample size approaches infinity.  But it's simply not correct to say that if you draw 30 random numbers from 1-6 that you can expect to find them equally distributed---that would be a decidely non-random distribution.

Correct. But the main problem I see here is that the generation process of that 30 numbers is not described clearly.
The site may be doing it fairly, or may be not. We simply don't know about that, and so it is not provably fair.

I see (better now), thanks.  I wanted to clarify that part of the OP just to make sure I wasn't completely misunderstanding.
1567  Local / Altcoins (criptomonedas alternativas) / Re: CoinAwesome está buscando un traductor o redactor on: June 02, 2015, 06:14:23 AM
Podrían pagar en BTC?  Creo que hay muchos traductores aquí quienes trabajarían en esto pero no van a quere coinawesome (yo, por ejemplo Smiley ).  Bueno, si es que sí, mándame pm.
1568  Economy / Services / Re: Web Design - CMS, PHP, Java, Ajax, mysql, jqery...From a scrypt to the whole web on: June 02, 2015, 06:10:05 AM
Maybe you'll appreciate the bump here.  But I just wanted to tell you that given the spelling you used for script, I think your topic is a little confusing.  "scrypt" especially on the bitcoin forum refers to the mining algorithm of litecoin and many altcoins (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scrypt).  Given the rest of your post, I think you want to write "script"---I didn't know if your thread had something to do with litecoin when I clicked on it.

Cheers!
1569  Other / MultiBit / Re: Multibit and the fork to XT on: June 02, 2015, 06:03:04 AM
This is really similar to a recent thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1074222.msg11509138#msg11509138

In short, I don't think you're going to have to do anything except potentially upgrade your multibit client.  Doing that will most likely be the same as when you've done it before (you'll probably need to import your wallet into the new version).

But you shouldn't have to worry too much. Smiley
1570  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: How to compile bbr-cudaminer in ubuntu ? on: June 02, 2015, 05:57:55 AM
What oblivi said is basically the right way to start off.  If you get errors, post the terminal session here so that people can help.  I've seen a lot of folks post asking for help just saying "it didn't work".  There are people around here who can read compiler errors so just feed us the info!
1571  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: A scaled up spam experiment : #SpamTheBlockchain As A Service on: June 02, 2015, 05:54:56 AM
My goal is at least to maintain something like 14 tx/s in total tx on the network for a month. (with estimated fees for 3 block confirmation)

Just to put it in some perspective:

With a size of roughly 250-350 kB per transaction, that's about 4000-6000 BTC spent in total for fees, with estimatefee 3 = 0.00044247 BTC/kB, and 14 tx/s for one month.

That makes this idea seem like an insanely expensive experiment!  How could this ever be a feasible thing to pull off if dexX7 is right about these costs?
1572  Economy / Gambling / Re: BitcoinPoker.gg - High Stakes. High Rewards - Secure Bitcoin Poker on: June 02, 2015, 05:48:46 AM
It's been a week or so since I had a moment to play.  I'm going to try to catch the freeroll that kicks off in a few mins, then, if anyone's around, maybe look for a ring game.  Hop on guys!
1573  Economy / Gambling / Re: Question/opinions on pocketdice's claim of provably fair. on: June 02, 2015, 05:45:24 AM

When I started looking at it tonight, the first thing I did was click on a random past bet to see the roll array. It had 7 6's in it. If it's truly fair, in a 30 number array of 1-6, each number should be represented 5 times.


I'm not saying you're wrong about the skewiness of an entire distribution of numbers generated as you describe, however, if I understand you correctly, the line I quote you on above is completely wrong.

In a truly-fair array of 30 random numbers 1-6, the crucial property is that you cannot predict at all how many times each number should be represented.  In a single draw of 30 random numbers, if they're truly random, they might be all 1s, you don't know untill you draw.  Now, if the numbers are truly random then the long-term expected average distribution should approach an equal distribution of 1,2,3,4,5,6 as you sample size approaches infinity.  But it's simply not correct to say that if you draw 30 random numbers from 1-6 that you can expect to find them equally distributed---that would be a decidely non-random distribution.
1574  Economy / Gambling / Re: SwCpoker.eu | No Banking, Only Bitcoin | Bitcoin Poker 2.0 LIVE NOW! on: June 02, 2015, 04:56:19 AM
Has the problems with Windows 7 been fixed yet?  Can't seem to be able to install the .exe client.  It just keeps updating and updating and reinstalling.

Hmm... I've been using Windows 7 and haven't had that problem. 

Have you emailed support about it?

same problem
Is this the first time downloading the client to your device or is it a second time?


I have installed and used the software before.  Norton had some issues with it .  I whitelisted it and it worked for a while.  Came back stoped worked tried to reinstall. says a new version needs to be updated but doesnt update.
Go into you libraries on your device and go to downloads and you should see swcsetup try to re download the client and see if that works.


I would like to do that but when I go to the swcpoker.eu website it says there is a problem with their security certificate.  I'm a little weary of downloading off a website without proper encryption in place.  I e-mail support to see if they can verify if their security is in place.

Maybe you can get them to publish an md5 sum of the binary or something? (perhaps post it here, for example)  That might alleviate some of the concerns that you might not be getting the proper download from some man-in-the-middle.

Wait, on second thought, hopefully the hash would be sha256 rather than md5 because, shit, this is a bitcoin forum. Smiley
1575  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Python snippet to create Bitcoin public/private key pairs on: June 02, 2015, 04:54:14 AM
Step #2 - Convert to Brainfuck for fun because you know why not.

Are you talking about brainfuck the language http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brainfuck?  Is there some kind of relevance for bumping this 2 week old thread?  Do you actually want code for generating keys in brainfuck or where you just bumping your post count?

No, I actually want someone to convert it to that language because not only would it be a pretty great challenge, but Brainfuck can easily be implemented on an Arduino (or literally any other platform), so it could actually serve to be a very useful function.

I don't know anything about programming for Arduino, but I'm really surprised if you can't compile C code for it.  And since you already have all the bitcoin core, there's also a libbitcoin in C, don't you already have what you need to convert keys on arduino?  Also, isn't arduino just an arm7?  Can't you run python on linux on it?  Sorry for my ignorance.

You are somewhat right, but it's not a 64-bit machine like Bitcoin Core is meant to run on though.  It's not quite that easy, because it's memory is on the order of 16 KB.

Brainfuck on the other hand, is SOOO easy to implement if all you need to do is generate an address.

If it's SOOO easy, maybe you can do it yourself if you check out those python methods in that library I linked to above.  I've never written a line of brainfuck in my life so I don't think I can help you.

Cheers!

I didn't say coding in Brainfuck was easy...it's maybe the most confusing thing I've ever tried to do (but there are some real pros in it).  I just said that implementing an interpreter in it is really easy in just about any other language.

So you can implement your own interpreter really easy (I'm guessing you're talking about a REPL http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Read–eval–print_loop) but you can't implement some string manipulation very easy?  I must still be misunderstanding something.  Anyway, I can't help you when it comes to coding in brainfuck.  Dunno what else to say.
1576  Economy / Services / Re: Up to 0.035 BTC weekly for YOUR SIGNATURE *New rules on: June 02, 2015, 04:51:42 AM
hello i want to ask why I still have not received a payment? although the date has been exceeded



What do you see when you go to https://bitmixer.io/signature.html and put your uid from bitcointalk into the box and click submit (note, pressing enter doesn't work, you have to click submit!)?

LOL this makes me laugh. you quoted a picture of his stats in the https://bitmixer.io/signature.html yet you are still asking what can he see.

Yes, my apologies.  I was using a really slow connection when I posted and the screenshot hadn't loaded and I didn't realize it was there.

Anyway, @steven.G999, the other thing to check is that your posts were in a paid section (not in this thread, for example, see OP for paid sections) and that they were at least 75 characters.  If you check out all those things and your 39 posts should have been paid, then you should PM bitmixer.io (the OP of this thread to see what went wrong).  I used to use this campaign to advertize bitmixer.io a while ago, it was before many of the recent changes.  All I can tell you was that my experience with it was flawless!
1577  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: So what does 'Fork' mean? on: June 02, 2015, 04:47:42 AM
I am really confused with all of this, I just hope that it doesn't happen anytime soon because a lot of people need to understand about its pros and cons and what exactly they need to do prepare for the fork, I was reading the discussion here True or False: If not enough people join 20MGCoin, we fork into Bitcoin and 20MGCoin [I'd then want Bitcoin] and as far as I understand from it, if I have 2 bitcoins in my wallet, after the fork I will have 2 bitcoins on each blockchain?? but only one of it might have any value and the other will sink to the bottom of the ocean? But that is only if it is an even split, I don't think it'd be that even.

And does this mean that we would need new clients for the new blockchain?

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In any case, you will need to run the "A" version of the software to deposit "A" coin or use the "A" coins that you withdrew, and the "B" version for the "B" coins.

What about people who are not aware of this and don't use Bitcoin Core?

Sorry if it is a dumb question, I am just trying to understand it's affects. Be gentle! Embarrassed
That is not true. In order for the fork to happen a super-majority (meaning >95%) of the last 1000 blocks mined must abide by the new version rules and the old version rules. That means that those blocks have a new version number, but are still smaller than 1 MB. Only after the super-majority of the blocks is achieved will the blockchain hard fork with the creation of a block that is greater than 1 MB. The vast majority of the network will accept the new fork, the remaining minority will be left on a stale, insecure blockchain which pretty much no one will accept or use.

The other thing is that for the casual user, who doesn't mine and doesn't run a ful node, they'll basically be unaffected.  Their spv client will send a transaction the same as before, and their walet wil be parsing the prope blockchain as long as they stay on some reasonably update software.  I really don't think he casual user has to worry.  However, there's a lot of interesting discussion and learining to be done if you like finding out more.

Don't worry!  But knowledge is power.
1578  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: So what does 'Fork' mean? on: June 02, 2015, 02:32:10 AM
This is great, as it is some people were complaining that it is hard for common people to use bitcoins and now this will make things super hard. Fantastico!
Actually, it shouldn't make it much harder. The fork only occurs when >90% of the nodes on the network switch to the new version. If this doesn't happen, the the old version will still be used. By having almost all of the network use the new version, then consensus will be achieved and any business with large amounts of money or customers at stake will switch to the new version because that will be the one that is valid.

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So when exactly is this fork taking place?
There is no official date yet, but it will likely occur sometime in early 2016 if all goes as planned.
Wrong, nothing about 90% is mentioned anywhere. One fork stops being active when no one runs it.
And by the way, Bitcoin-xt is out there ready to be downloaded. Just not running on a fork yet.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/383jam/support_larger_blocks_by_running_a_bitcoin_xt/

Ok, I guess you're right that a fork ends when no one is running it.  But isn't it true that after the 90% (of blocks in the last 1000 are the new version) that the new version nodes stop accepting blocks which are the old version?  Ie, there is something about 90% mentioned somewhere, perhaps just not exactly as was said above---it's that 90% of the last 1000 blocks triggers rejection of old-style blocks by all nodes on the new software. I could be wrong.

Also, I thought I saw something about Gavin switching to developing on bitcoin_xt, was that right or was it just a threat or something?
1579  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Is there any important information outside of the Bitcoin wallet? on: June 02, 2015, 01:41:14 AM
Right, but you don't have to give them a copy of your bitcoin download, you can just point to one of the mirror services who have the pre-downloaded blockchain.

There are some instructions in this forum!   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=51456.0
1580  Economy / Gambling / Re: Chainroll | The Easiest Dice Game in Bitcoin - 1% House Edge on: June 02, 2015, 01:37:05 AM
The red color of the interface of the site is making eye tired, maybe change another color is much better.
Indeed the color it's to fiery for my eyes. I would like to see a friendly color for my eyes

You can change the color as you want, just  try bitbaby's suggestion (I think this is the simple way to change the color of any sites)


Or try my suggestion just above it, you can learn your first javascript this way even if you've never coded before.  It's really easy in a modern browser with the javascript consoles.

True, but I think it is better if admin can add a "theme" drop down menu with a few different color schemes so that users can change it easily with 1 click.

True, and it wouldn't be hard to do.  (Admin of chainroll, pm me if you need a little javascript button to change up the theme color for your users).
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