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1301  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CLAM] CLAMs, Proof-Of-Chain, Proof-Of-Working-Stake on: June 20, 2015, 04:31:56 PM
I don't know why the arrow keys weren't working for me.  Maybe the wrong part of the window was in focus or something.  Anyway, I decided to clone the repo from git and build it.  I run "./autogen.sh && ./configure" and I note that I need the header files for libdb.    I'm on debian jessie and I'm looking at the build instructions in doc/build-unix.md, it says to add oldstable main to my repos, so I add this:

Code:
deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/pub/debian/ oldstable main

But I'm not finding the libdb packages which the readme says I should find:

Code:
E: Package 'libdb4.8-dev' has no installation candidate
E: Package 'libdb4.8++-dev' has no installation candidate

So, obviously I could look for the header for the berkeley db somewhere else, and I can do this, no problem.  I just thought I'd update you guys about the instructions in your readme, maybe they're not so current (or maybe I'm doing something wrong, hehe).

Cheers
1302  Other / Meta / Re: Stake your Bitcoin address here on: June 20, 2015, 03:49:39 PM
1FM9a5M3zcDhuZaT8bSPvaeP8egAFTmCAZ

I can quote that for you.  There ya go.
1303  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CLAM] CLAMs, Proof-Of-Chain, Proof-Of-Working-Stake on: June 20, 2015, 07:56:18 AM
Guys, there's a problem with the main clam website.  I go to the OP of this thread, I click on official website looking to download the client,  I see gian pictures oceany things.  15 seconds later, I figure out that there's a hidden nav-bar on the right of the page.  Okay, I open the nav bar,  I see "download clamclient"  I think "yes!".  I click, I see a giant picture of an shipping vessel.  I see text above the vessel "download clamclient", but this is not a link.  I start pressing arrow keys, maybe there's a link below the tanker pic---nothing moves.  I find many many many social media links about clamclient in the in nav-bar, still haven't found where to wget a tar of the client or the source.  I'm not stupid.  I'm using firefox.  Can I get the text version of this page or something?

EDIT: ohmygod, I finally found it.  If i rehide the nav bar on the right, there's like 4 pixel scrollbar that allows the page to scroll down.  Why didn't my arrow keys work?  I'm leaving this post up in case whoever runs the clam site considers this useful feedback about my experience with the website.  I found many large and beautiful pics (which was cool), but it was hard to find any text or links (which was annoying).
1304  Bitcoin / BitcoinJ / Re: Should I trust Oracle? (Sun JDK -vs- Open JDK) on: June 20, 2015, 07:32:46 AM
There is actually fewer Win64 builds of OpenJDK than I thought.  I'm not adverse to building it from scratch, but I'm certainly not advocating that stuff to a new member.

I'll give Zulu a shot which is an OpenJDK distro (ref1).  For the paranoid, only building from scratch will do.  For the truly paroanoid, only open source SW running on open source HW will do.  Ultimately, it may eventually come to that.  If Oracle isn't coerced, then perhaps Intel is.  Doesn't matter who makes bad RNG, once it's bad, it's really bad.

Anyway... I'll post how Zulu works with Multibit and BitcoinJ once that projects pops to top of stack.

ref1: http://www.azulsystems.com/products/zulu/downloads
ref2: http://www.wired.com/2013/09/nsa-backdoor/

PS: found an even scarier article on Crypto-Crippling, this one effects Ecliptic Curve RNG (ref2) (ouch).

OpenJDK has been the default Java on debian (and downstream, I assume) systems for some time now.  You have to go out of your way to get the Sun Java nowadays on the linux distros I use.  I've never built software on windows so I don't know how it compares but on linux you usually just have to run "./configure && make && make install", a lot of newbies can probably do that okay.  Shit, if you can build a windows java guaranteed without spyware, maybe you can start distributing the binaries for the newbies yourself Smiley
1305  Other / Meta / Re: VOD should be removed from default trust for systematic abuse of his position on: June 20, 2015, 07:29:08 AM
Well I can say Two legendary Members, helped me out in a dire situation, and they did it rationally without having to pursue using negative feedback as the first tool against potential scams.  TechShare and TomatoCage are good example of how top rank members should act.  I am not ready for that rank. Grin but I can watch and learn from them.

A newbie offers a message of peace!  TecShare and TomatoCage happily setting examples together for how people should act.  Imagine!
1306  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: XRP - Ripple on: June 20, 2015, 07:27:36 AM
God27, you may know more about it than I do, but doesn't Ripple Labs sell all the original Ripple?  Isn't that how Ripple gets created?  You buy it from Ripple Labs?  It makes sense that they'd say that they plan to be minority holders.  I would too if I were them.  If I could sell off a 100% premined coin to users and then be a "minority holder" that sounds pretty ideal.
1307  Other / Meta / Re: Bitcointalk BBCode New Feature - The Hobbit Header! on: June 20, 2015, 07:22:17 AM
BBCode is closest to HTML, so it makes the most sense when doing complex things like tables (or any sort of block element like [code], [center], etc.). I prefer markdown or wiki syntax when doing more simple things like emphasis, links, and lists, though. The biggest thing I hate about markdown is that it doesn't work well with newlines; oftentimes you need to separate things by extra newlines (or two spaces after the end of a line) for them to work properly, which is annoying.

I, personally, when it comes to markup languages, have had so little need for things like markdown.  I think it's a great idea, but for me, README files are just fine in plain text.  I don't really need them formatted.  When I need something in HTML, I just write HTML.  When I need a document, I just write LaTeX.  When it's anything else, plain text is usually just fine.  Note, I'm not dissing markdown, I just have never really used it apart from github pages.

@Theymos, what's the deal with the newlines?  I've never run into any issue, is it the old \r\n vs \n thing?
1308  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: XRP - Ripple on: June 20, 2015, 01:22:08 AM
What are your thoughts on XRP, I invested 1 BTC about a month ago, which I later exchanged for other crypto that was stolen from me after some guy hacked my polo account...But all the posts that I read never include Ripple as a crypto that has potential. Anybody care to explain why ? I see it has great potential since it has become a mainstream crypto and has a great dev team with a vision, while also maintaining its price without huge fluctuations, making it a very sensible investment.

New to the world of cryptocurrency and Bitcoin Smiley
Would love to read some of your responses


On the assumption that you're actually curious about why Ripple isn't really considered much around here, it has a lot to do with the centralization.  Whereas the "altcoin" family are all, to some degree, clones of bitcoin (yes, they vary the algorithms and the block rates and ceter, but the hallmark is a decentralized ledger kept on a P2P network), Ripple, as far as I understand it, is owned and operated by a single company which, while using some cryptography to secure transactions, doesn't have the main factors that people here find crucial.  The main one of those being decentralization---trustlessness.  The main idea thesis of Satoshi's white paper is how to create a trustless exchange system that doesn't rely on a third party.  People here find that crucial.  I hope this helps.
1309  Bitcoin / BitcoinJ / Re: Should I trust Oracle? (Sun JDK -vs- Open JDK) on: June 20, 2015, 01:08:40 AM
Thanks for those links (specially the second one), I hadn't seen that.

From what I read recently, nowadays OpenJDK is actually the "standard" jdk.  So, if I were you, I'd turn the question around, is there any reason *not* to use open jdk given that (1) it's free (both kinds of free) and (2) what you mentioned in the OP?
1310  Other / Meta / Re: Bitcointalk BBCode New Feature - The Hobbit Header! on: June 20, 2015, 12:16:05 AM
BBCode sucks. Should stick with copy and paste HTML. BBCode is like for the lazy, non-techy people who think HTML is a programming language. Roll Eyes

It's also for a techy person like me who decides to go ahead and take advantage of, say, bold rather than *bold* in a forum post.

<strong>bold</strong> doesn't work!

In that case, I disagree. 7 characters to parse to <b></b>  is equivalent to typing <b></b>.
What does this mean?  The parser doesn't care how many characters it has to read.  Maybe you meant to compare [b] to <b>, but <b> is deprecated HTML for mixing presentation (style) with markup (structure), so nowadays we right <strong>.
Quote
You're not getting any advantages there. With *this* at least you don't have to type 7 characters to accomplish the same thing.

In fact, if something like that was used (that didn't take advantage of HTML-like tags), you probably wouldn't see crummy parsing happening anyway. It would be easier to read, too. I'm more partial to Wikipedia's ''' for bold and '' for italic (and ''''' for bold italic) in a forum setting.

You may be right that wikimarkup is easier to type, or more effiecient to type.  But,  and FWIW, I find BBCode more transparent for the casual user..  When I edit wikipedia I have to look up again and again whether the label comes before or after the link, how to do a header, etc.  This is because markup like =, ==, '', is concise but not mnemonic.  On the other hand I never forget [quote][code][url][b][i][u] even when I haven't used them for a long time.
1311  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: 60% of hashrate including 2 major exchanges agree to raise block size to 8MB on: June 19, 2015, 11:35:31 PM
Core Dev also need to make a decision. they either:

a) delay the v0.11 until it gets a scaling improvement which replaces the max block size constant (whether by a patch reflecting Jeffs' BIP 100, or a functionally comparable patch from Gavin). After all, Gavin gave notice 2 months ago that he wanted to submit a patch for v0.11

b) release v0.11 without the above, which is effectively a declaration that they are prepared to allow the 1MB limit to be maxed out (noticeably affecting user confirmation times) before considering to release a patch for it. This might not be "1MB 4EVR" but it is practically equivalent as far as the rest of us are concerned who want to see the limit raised/modified/improved/removed before the inevitable PR disaster from inaction.

Maybe the choosing will be between using the pruned database feature or the 20 MB block fork feature. Like so much with this debate, the answer is that you actually want both, and that these supposedly opposing ideas, in fact, support one another.

For me, this kind of observation leads me to think that 8MB might be a nice compromise between block size and storage.  You could also compromise on the pruning side, say 1GB instead of 500MB, that would be meeting in the middle, right?
1312  Economy / Gambling / Re: Someone should make agar.io for bitcoins on: June 19, 2015, 11:14:20 PM
I like Agar.io and I was hoenstlu suprised that someone here alredy thought of bitcoin version of that game. It is very interesting news.
So you want to profit from this, but from what I could see you won't take fees from the players. How do you want earn? Ads revenue?

I will profit from the game. No straight fees but rather I will earn from the death of the players.
When you kill someone you earn their 0.001 BTC fee + 50% of their kills.
The other 50% of the their kills will be lost and go to me.

So, if you kill someone that has 4 kills, you earn...

- their 0.001 entry fee
- 0.002 (50% of their kills)

That other 0.002 will go to me, partially to help improve the stability and performance of the servers.
Its not a straight out % fee, but I think it'll be better this way. I don't think it will be worthwhile to put ads on the site so i'm not going to bother.

But agar.io's base unit doesn't seem to be "kills" but mass.  In your system, killing a fresh guy who just bought in is worth as much as a giant.  And not all giants got big from kills.  You can get reasonbly large from consuming the food the appears. I really think you want to consider kills to be an artifact and consider mass as the real unit for calculation.
1313  Other / Meta / Re: Bitcointalk BBCode New Feature - The Hobbit Header! on: June 19, 2015, 04:36:50 PM
BBCode sucks. Should stick with copy and paste HTML. BBCode is like for the lazy, non-techy people who think HTML is a programming language. Roll Eyes

It's also for a techy person like me who decides to go ahead and take advantage of, say, bold rather than *bold* in a forum post.

<strong>bold</strong> doesn't work!
1314  Other / MultiBit / Re: What should i do as a bitcoin user when the fork happens? on: June 19, 2015, 04:35:00 PM
After so much speculation about what multibit "might" do, it's good for you to weigh-in here with some authority on the matter.  Thanks Jim!

If there is a serious fork (as opposed to the one or two block forks that happen quite normally in Bitcoin) then the best thing to do is:

+ your existing coins are on both forks.
+ your copy of MultiBit will automatically follow the fork with the most work done in it which, according to the current Bitcoin rules, is the main chain.
+ when there are two competing forks you want to be careful on sending product out even if your transaction confirms (explained below).

When there are two competing forks you can have a transaction that is confirmed on ForkA but is, say, unconfirmed, on ForkB.
If ForkB becomes the longer chain then the transaction on ForkB becomes the 'true' transaction.

We did some consultancy work for an exchange and recommended that they wrote special fork monitoring code. When a serious fork is detected we recommended they just 'press the big red button' and stop any fiat redemptions until it was resolved.
1315  Economy / Services / Re: Up to 0.035 BTC weekly for YOUR SIGNATURE *New rules on: June 19, 2015, 02:05:46 PM
Something seems to have gone wrong for me, the address on my https://bitmixer.io/signature.html page has been changed and my payments have been going to an address I don't recognise.  I haven't received any payments since May.  I sent a message to OP on Tuesday, but not had a reply yet.  Is it possible my forum account was compromised?

This payment (for example)

https://blockchain.info/tx/56d9fbbda0f0cba758da8b05dec52b14c2e43d8602786deaadefb399cc46497a

Is going to the same address as what's listed in your profile:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=175361

And that's the same thing I see when I put your uid into bitmixer.io/signature.html.

Is this not your address: 1Cq93ETvLwh1ZdMPUG921iW4Y6FDqohcGK

If you didn't put that address into your forum profile then shit yah, it looks like your forum account has been compromised!

I've changed it back to that correct address now, but it seems three payments went to 1NW2izSYB45662D2xftxAEHW69BtSaN29Q, which definitely isn't one of mine.  I was away on holiday in May and did access the forum from a few different places, using devices that aren't mine, so chances are the breach happened there.  I've changed password as a precaution.  I'll keep a close eye on it for the next few weeks just in case it was something here at home, though.

So, when you logged in at one point, you just saw your forum profile page had been changed to that 1NW address?  That's pretty scary for sure.  I saw your password has recently been changed, that's surely a good idea.  If I were you, I'd see if you can get help from the forum admins looking at IP logs during the time of the breach---there may be some valuable info there both for you and for the admins.
1316  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: DirectBet Soccer Prediction Game *** Win Free Bets ! *** Free to Enter ! on: June 19, 2015, 01:57:12 PM
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1317  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: MicroGuy's Altcoin Pick of the Week (Inside Scoop) on: June 19, 2015, 06:27:09 AM
NavajoCoin’s Summer Road Map Offers Breathtaking Views

The Navajo people make up the largest federally recognized tribe in the united states. The Navajo Nation extends into the states of Utah, Arizona, and New Mexico, covering over 27,000 square miles of unparalleled remote beauty.

It only makes sense that a cryptocurrency would be born that embodies this rich heritage. The Navajo Coin community is determined to bring freedom and anonymity to the forefront as their namesake did nearly a century ago.

Full Story: http://altcoinpress.com/2015/06/navajocoins-summer-road-map-offers-breathtaking-views/

I'm not going to troll, but I want to offer another facet of navajocoin which has unfortunately been completely overlooked.  They have no official association with the Navajo people and are using the name and symbols of these people without permission.  This kind of behavior goes against the United Nations Declaration of the Rights of Indigenous peoples.  Unfortunately, when I brought this up in the NAV thread, I mainly got shouted at.  I think the right thing for the navajocoin people to do is to find a way to seek the permission of the Navajo nation to use their symbols and name.  Until they do this, I'm not going to be a part of yet another story of cultural appropriation against native peoples of America.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying the Navajocoin people intend to be disrespectful, but until they do the right thing and recognize that it's not okay just to slurp up the symbology of a people and pretend that it's yours then you're not doing the right thing even if you do have good intentions.  And I'm not saying the coin isn't solid or that the devs aren't smart.  I'm just saying that this branding has intellectual property issues which strike at the heart of the sad history of relations between indigenous people and colonialists on this continent.
1318  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Anyone out there completely control all of a coin? on: June 19, 2015, 06:18:20 AM
It's a fun idea from the OP, but for it to happen, he's going to have to be mining it himself too (in order to validate deposits and withdrawals.  His idea is that people can start to trade it for themselves if his casino becomes popular but to allow that to happen, you have to have enough hashing power to keep others from taking over your blockchain.  In the end, it seems like alot of resources to put towards the idea that your casino might get popular.  If I were you, I'd focus on getting your casino popular first by taking bitcoin deposits and withdrawals and users play with an internal token (chips!).  Then, if you have enought success at that, you can start offering your own coin and at that point you'll have a userbase to experiment with (offer them some discount if they start using your crypto rather than the chips).
1319  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why is "bagholding" seen as a negative thing? on: June 19, 2015, 06:12:50 AM
It comes from a very old English expression "to give someone the bag".  The current idiom is "be left holding the back" which means be left with the negative consequences of something.  See this for the source:  http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/be+left+holding+the+bag
1320  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CLAM] CLAMs, Proof-Of-Chain, Proof-Of-Working-Stake on: June 19, 2015, 06:05:43 AM
I'm surprised no one dropped the current price of a clam in BTC on me.  ha!

Since December:

[snip]

The last week:

[snip]

Right now:

0.00574000 BTC

Thanks man.  CLAM is surprisingly stable.  I'd say that's a good thing for newish crypto to have been able to establish a price point and hold it.  I don't think I've seen that from many (any?) altcoins other than LTC.
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