Yes they can. I read somewhere that they do not require KYC. In that case, they can not ask for it. If they have intentions to trick then they can do it easily. Who will verify that they are not telling the lies.

There are cases like this:

OP could have the valid KYC
= couldbet verify it using whichever tools they have and know that it's valid but they hide the truth

How are you going to justify this?

I would say this:
Can OP provide the tx of the deposit?
If he can then sure he deposited the money. And in that case cloudbet can just send the BTC back to that address. No verification no KYC needed.

I read the 2nd link provided by the OP and found several cases of not paying big amounts. Every time they are creating excuses to pay the big amounts. Some times KYC, sometimes multiple accounts etc.

Calm down mate. For sure you do not know who is right and who is wrong. Don't justify people and label them as scammer. This could be a real story and in that case we have no idea how is this guy feeling. Stop being rude to strangers.
I was wrong about Astargath

I really do not know the real story. It's hard for me to pick a side at the moment. But reading after the links it's assumable the OP really deposited the large amount of money and the case is very serious. I did not have any idea that people risk 129BTC in a betting site.This means gambling industry is really making big money and probably losing as well.

Let's assume you made 330BTC from your initial 129BTC then it's a lot of money for cloudbet too to return.

I am not justifying them but for a company when they are about to send this kind of big money, they need to ensure that they are not making any mistake. I hope this is what cloudbet is doing and if that is right then you will get your money. I really hope - this is the situation.

On the other side of the coin, if cloudbet starts becoming greedy and don't want to give your money and creating silly issues/excuses then you are in trouble. I am not sure if they are legally bound to give the money back to you. These betting sites/casinos have a lot of terms which they use to get away from a situation.

I will follow this topic to see where it ends. In the mean time I will wish you good luck.

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Update: Just read this article in steemit. This is not looking good. They already have several accusations against them. Mistake can happen once or twice but not again and again.

Case of the player deposited 5 BTC


The player after winning 3 BTC (over $20,000 value at the time)

A user after winning 4.5 BTC

I am having this feeling that cloudbet is creating another situation to keep your money. At this stage I am not sure however I guess you need to take legal action against them if that is possible so that the company can be seized by the authority. This can not guarantee your money back though. Again good luck.

I don't think speculation board, bitcoin discussion board, altcoin discussion boards looks too bad now after all those active reporting by the members in the recent time. It's the image we are still stuck in. We are blindly saying something without even visiting the boards anymore.

LOL you are drinking too much I guess now a days. Stop being an alcoholic mate. Take a break with all these hate inside you. You are not helping yourself.

Create a chatroom and be those Legendaries to moderate the chats. Who cares LOL

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Indeed another radical idea 

I remember the movie (the one) and that's Jet Lee if I am not wrong. I see you mentioned Jet Cash here. Coincidence?

We already discussed about it on the Seeking reporter badge images. You need to have patience mate. Theymos is still working on the reporting badge my guess, once he will be done with this then he will look for the other fixes improvements/decorations 

I am not sure about the topic of Jet Cash but since you are saying speculation thread then I assume it was something about bitcoin price or something. The other one discussion about trading altcoin should be in the altcoin discussion board. If this is exactly the end result then I see no issue at all.

This board (Meta) is to talk about forum features, implementation, suggestions etc. Everything that relates with forum discussion should be here. This is what I grasp all those day. However I have seen in this board - members were posting thread about celebrating merit, awarding merit kind of topics too.
Anyway we need a guideline for this board. Not only this board, we need guideline for a lot of things.

This is the biggest forum for cryptocurrency. The main goal of the forum is to help the crypto community to understand Bitcoin technology.

Only the forum admin can give you this stat.

Yeah, the admin is working on the new forum software since March 2014 if I am not wrong and the budget was 5000BTC We have not seen any progress though  

Good luck with your article.

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May be you want to move this topic to the bitcoin discussion board or Beginners & Help board.

You just added to Jet Cash's ignore list 

Topic should be moved to the reputation board.

Talking about the alts I guess The Pharmacist once spotted more then 20 alts from crypto____ network.

You are welcome to add pussy, fuck, sassy, dick, vagina to fill the blank etc etc LOL

LOL that was a quite long feedback  
Limiting only number of lines may work fine.

PS: Did you notice - he started with few lines then he multiplied it for the next one and the next one LOL

If I am not wrong then I guess we are full now (Just looked the spreadsheet)  
My bad. Still 1 X Legendary spot available  LOL

Ok this is another helpful idea like your "Full merit transaction history for any user - now with GRAPHS!" project. In the Full merit transaction project - one can see individual'ss merit history using the userID: 1432468

Do you have any such idea for this Trust list viewer project too (Or I am missing something, I am sorry these days I am not following the forum much.)?

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Update: Never mind I figured LOL
mdayonliner

May be some day I will start doing this so that if anyone is a victim of wrong judgement or deserves a benefit of the doubt then they get it. This is a good idea and thanks for that.

I already give some insights for some of the distrusted member of my list however...
I am thinking to write some the reasons (later) why I entrusted/entrusting the members in my trust settings. I am done with negativity.

There are two sides of looking at a half full glass.
1. Half empty
2. Another one is already said right before my last sentence.

Anyway, updated trust settings:

Lol you do not have to. This means you are doing it for wrong reason. Anyway, I hope a mod will take the steps.

This is clearly ban evasion, deserves another ban.

I will be following this topic hoping to get some good insights. I always thought to play with coins and collectibles but I have zero Idea how to find the authenticity and also security.

- How do you know in a Casascius coin the private key is not compromised? I hope I did not ask a stupid question  

OP: Thanks for creating the topic.

I do not blindly follow the trust left by the DTs. I do manual review. There are some legit reasons to avoid this user. Some are...

Several times
http://archive.is/LxTxa
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5086031.0
http://archive.vn/4B8am

Over all, the user does not value the community value. You do not expect this guy to be trust worthy.

Non of these are strong evidence that there were misuse. Anyone can send merit to anyone. There should be no complaints. Only exceptions are the merit sources.

I do not see any tag. I thought it was because of my custom DT setting then I checked with ;dt and the result is same.

What is your case? All I see is - you are selling some money making guide. I hope this is not something Ponzi or this kind of doublers. If this is legal then I don't think any one will tag you.

To avoid trolls the only thing you can do is - create self moderated topic which you don't want to by reading your OP. In this case you can not do anything. Mods are not going to moderate the topic for you.