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701  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: THE TRUTH: Can someone withdraw fiat money from MTGOX? on: July 21, 2013, 06:48:13 AM
and bitstamp has already almost 50% of (low) weekend volume

Market            Last       Volume (24h)   Bid   Ask   High   Low
mtgoxUSD           90.0000   9,592.67   90.48   90.50   93.10   89.00
bitstampUSD   86.0400   4,073.64   85.89   85.95   87.07   84.27
702  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [ANN] KRAKEN.COM - US-based Exchange w/ Margin Trading - OPEN BETA on: July 20, 2013, 06:07:27 PM
Will there be an active market-making or orderbook will be filled by users only (low liquidity).
if they dont link to mtgox the trading will be pretty much dead

mtgox itself is pretty much dead. at least declining like hell.

kraken can link to bitstamp like bitfinex does


stop posting in blue ffs cant read shit



what is ffs?
703  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: THE TRUTH: Can someone withdraw fiat money from MTGOX? on: July 20, 2013, 06:06:24 PM
3. As a consequence, Digital Currency Research will now look into starting to display bitstamp charts. That said, we can reassure subscribers that we are already monitoring bitstamp and the forecast is the same.

Just to be sure: From now on you will cover Bitstamp, which is currently mainly used for prompt payouts and which has a market depth which is only a fraction of the total market?


Thanks for your comments: To clarify:

1) We keep using MtGox for the technical analysis as long as they remain number 1
2) We monitor the next largest exchange in parallel to be prepared for a change and also to increase the depth of our research. Currently, the number 2 exchange in trading volume is bitstamp. If others get better and overtake bitstamp, fine. We do not have relationships with any exchange and hence we can make unbiased decisions.

And.. I agree that Gox has improve the trading engine, but as long as they dont improve the versatility (stop orders, O.C.O. orders, etc) and customer service & transparency, there is a risk that they will be overtaken by other exchanges.


704  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [ANN] KRAKEN.COM - US-based Exchange w/ Margin Trading - OPEN BETA on: July 20, 2013, 11:45:48 AM
Will there be an active market-making or orderbook will be filled by users only (low liquidity).
if they dont link to mtgox the trading will be pretty much dead

mtgox itself is pretty much dead. at least declining like hell.

kraken can link to bitstamp like bitfinex does
705  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: THE TRUTH: Can someone withdraw fiat money from MTGOX? on: July 20, 2013, 07:56:42 AM
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At least you can trade in volumes on MtGox.
Not really. You can have the illusion that you're trading. If you don't get paid, you didn't really trade.

My point exactly.  Its not an exchange. 

trading itself works reasonably well, but even the trading process is outdated.
on almost all brokers worldwide you have stop loss, stop buy, OCO, etc. trading options and on gox there is still only buy and sell possible.
I think it is (1) lack of innovation and (2) terrible customer service and management that let them down
706  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: THE TRUTH: Can someone withdraw fiat money from MTGOX? on: July 19, 2013, 04:05:39 PM
Gox is still in operation? 2013 and people still try to use Gox? WTF?

It has been reliable thus far, I had never a serious issue and they had lowest fees. But now, things change and this is why I move away.
707  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: THE TRUTH: Can someone withdraw fiat money from MTGOX? on: July 19, 2013, 03:20:28 PM


2. Based on the above, I believe that the leadership days of MtGox are counted. As I looked today , bitstamp is on track to overtake MtGox as market leader soon. They already are 50% of MtGox today. Providing transparency on my side, I have just cancelled all my USD withdrawals , converted into BTC and transferred to bitstamp, bitfinex or cold wallet. By the way, so far I found bitfinex trustworthy as I had smooth experiences both for trading and USD withdrawals. It seems that others have done the same recently and that may be the reason why the bitstamp /  MtGox spread is narrowing. MtGox is drained....


Mt.Gox has made it abundantly apparent that it has poor leadership, and poor work ethic. 

this is really true... Unfortunately for bitcoin.
But looking forward , other exchanges will take over the lead. but they will need to show much better customer service and transparency
708  Economy / Speculation / Re: Financial Risk Analytics-Subscription Service on: July 19, 2013, 12:12:35 PM
I see this thread popping up regularly at the top in my 'new replies to your posts' section but I am not interested.

Is there a way to stop this from happening? (without removing the posts I made here, or is that the only way?)

click unwatch

That removes it from the watchlist if it is on there.  He wants to remove it from the "Show new replies to your posts".  The only way to accomplish that is to delete all your posts in the thread.

Thanks a lot notme.

I must say that I find it unfair practice to bump that thread so frequently. If intended or not, it provides an advantage to others, including me. I have refrained from doing that regularly, but we only have two choices:

Get a moderator to intervene with cypher docs practice or if not, we will likely see all analysts bumping their threads more and more.

I don't want that and I also don't think we should ask people to delete all their posts just to avoid this issue. This is just my honest pov.
709  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: THE TRUTH: Can someone withdraw fiat money from MTGOX? on: July 19, 2013, 12:01:23 PM
here are a couple of thoughts based on what I am observing. And thanks so much for all the great insights. Keep it coming since this clarity provides transparency to the bitcoin community.

1. Gox must have a big liquidity problem: they only process small withdrawals. While they don't process larger ones. I know from my own experience and from friends that since more than 5 weeks no withdrawal larger than 3000-5000 USD went through. Let me know if you got a larger withdrawal processed.

2. Based on the above, I believe that the leadership days of MtGox are counted. As I looked today , bitstamp is on track to overtake MtGox as market leader soon. They already are 50% of MtGox today. Providing transparency on my side, I have just cancelled all my USD withdrawals , converted into BTC and transferred to bitstamp, bitfinex or cold wallet. By the way, so far I found bitfinex trustworthy as I had smooth experiences both for trading and USD withdrawals. It seems that others have done the same recently and that may be the reason why the bitstamp /  MtGox spread is narrowing. MtGox is drained....

3. As a consequence, Digital Currency Research will now look into starting to display bitstamp charts. That said, we can reassure subscribers that we are already monitoring bitstamp and the forecast is the same.

It would help if bitstamp prices would be available soon as live charts on Sierra chart and trading view . Perhaps someone could help on this front.
710  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: THE TRUTH: Can someone withdraw fiat money from MTGOX? on: July 18, 2013, 11:29:10 AM
IMO the reason for the 10% or so fall over the last couple hrs is no exchange really knows what the right price is. Everyone always counted on mtgox but they aren't paying out. Thus, people are looking at other exchanges and seeing $5-$10 differences in price increases fear of instability, which BTC has always and already has a lot of. I really hope mtgox gets things rolling again soon or this could be horrible for the bitcoin price and community.

Agree with you.
It would be great if MtGox could resume withdrawals
711  Local / Trading und Spekulation / Re: Der Aktuelle Kursverlauf on: July 18, 2013, 10:00:58 AM
Dieses Bauchgefühl analysiert Dinge wo wir meinen, das wir selbst mit einer starken Rechneranlage kaum dazu in der Lage sind. Bauchgefühl ist auch eher der umgangssprachliche Begriff. Es dürfte physiologisch ein Bereich im Hirn sein, über den wir keine direkte Kontrolle haben. Aber auch du wirst schon drüber gestolpert sein, das du Menschen einschätzen und deren Verhalten vorhersagen kannst. Warum? Du weist das sie Dinge so oder so machen werden, obwohl die selbst noch nie in einer solchen oder ähnlichen Situation waren. Dein Hirn ist also permanent damit beschäftigt komplexe Gleichungen zu lösen, die sich aus Emotionen und Verhaltensmuster von anderen Menschen ergeben und dir dabei zu helfen, deine Entscheidungen richtig zu treffen.
Ich bestreite nicht, dass das Gehirn automatisch (=schnell, unbewusst) zu erstaunlichen Leistungen der Mustererkennung fähig ist, welche nur zum Teil und oft erst in letzter Zeit mit neuester Technologie maschinell halbwegs erbracht werden können (gesichtserkennung etc.).

Jedoch wäre es IMHO ein Fehlschluss, aus diesen Leistungen auf dem eingeübten Lebensumfeld der Spezies den Schluss zu ziehen, sie wären auf beliebige Problemstellungen übertragbar. Schon ganz geringe Variation der Aufgabenstellung aus dem gewohnten Lebensumfeld heraus kann die Mustererkennung des Gehirns stark verwirren (z.B. klassische Tricks der  "optischen Täuschungen"), gleichzeitig zeigt sich da, dass diese Intuitiven Ansätze sehr dominant sind, d.h. durch besseres Wissen (Aufklärung über das Wesen der optischen Täuschung) nur schwer bewusst in den Hintergrund zu drängen sind.

Also:

Erstmal müsste die Aufgabe objektiv überhaupt lösbar sein.
Schon bei einer ganz simplen Problemstellung wie "Vorhersage des Ergebnisses eines Münzwurfs (Kopf oder Zahl)" sind mit auch beliebiger heute machbarer Technik nur Aussagen wie "zu 50% + x Kopf" möglich, wobei x sehr sehr klein ist, wenn die reale Versuchsanordnung ordentlich umgesetzt ist (d.h. Münze symmetrisch in Gewichtsverteilung etc.). Auch von "Parapsychologen" und ähnlichen Versuchen sind keine brauchbaren Vorhersagen überliefert.

Dann müsste für eine "intuitive" Lösung die Aufgabe den Sinnen der jeweiligen Spezies direkt zugänglich sein. Diese sind nach allem was wir wissen durch Anforderungen des Lebensraums geprägt (Evolution etc.).
D.h. Du wirst bei aller Intuition kaum einen Vermissten, oder versteckte Drogen am Geruch aufspüren können, ein Hund kann das recht gut. Sowohl Du als auch der Hund werden jedoch an der Frage scheitern, ob das rechte oder das linke Glas Wasser radioaktiv verseucht ist.

Alternativ - und so verstehe ich die Charttechnik - erfolgt die eigentliche Problemlösung durch "fortgeschrittene" (d.h. unintuitive, rationale) wissenschaftliche Methoden, und lediglich die "Benutzerschnittstelle" verwendet Muster, welche der Intuition zugänglich sind.
Beispiele wären Geigerzähler, Tachometer, rote Warnlampe ...
oder auch die erfahrungsgeprägte Wettervorhersage von Bauern (statistische Auswertung vergangener, ähnlicher Wolkenmuster ... klappt aber so nur in der Heimatgegend), oder simpler von jedermann (dunkle Wolken + Donner => Gewittergefahr).
oder die "Urangst" vor Spinnen und Schlangen, ob genetisch oder kulturell übertragen, die Form dieser Tiere signalisiert Gefahr, weil die Erfahrung lehrte "wahrscheinlich gefährlich". Würdest du (oder ein Tier) die Gefahr als solche direkt "intuitiv" wahrnehmen können, dann dürfte weder eine Atrappe, noch eine harmlose Spinne bzw. Schlange  gleicher Form schrecken. => ist aber nicht so!

Meinst du wirklich, das dann eine Chartanalyse nicht auch drin ist? Ich denke nicht, das ein Objekt wie Bitcoin komplexer reagiert wie zb emotionale Beziehungen zwischen mehreren Menschen (Eltern, Geschwister, Partner und das alles im Mix). Berechne einfach mal einen Bogenschuss an einem PC und dann frage dich wieso du das nicht kannst aber trotzdem perfekt triffst. Also ich jedenfalls habe nichtmal annähernd alle Formeln und Berechnungsmodelle die nötig sind zur Hand bzw mich schlau gemacht. Trotzdem treffe ich. Warum? Warum weis man Unterbewusstsein soviel?

Und es liegt nicht dran, das ich nur etwas wiederhole, dann würde ich ja nicht beim erstenmal sofort treffen, sondern erst wenn ich x-mal auf das Ziel geschossen habe und dann aus der übung raus treffe. Aber ich treffe dir ein Ziel irgendwo und irgendwann in einem gelände wo ich noch nie war beim ersten Schuss.

Ich denke das diese "Rechenleistung" des Hirns auch in der Lage ist, Charts zu bewerten, wenn man sich drauf konzentriert.

Wie oben ausgeführt wäre die Voraussetzung dafür, dass eine wissenschaftliche (Statistische) Analyse stattgefunden hat, und vom Forscher in erkennbare Regeln übertragen wurde, welche der Spekulant dann erlernt hat.
Also z.B. Kopf-Schulter-Kopf Formation => hohe Absturzwahrscheinlichkeit

Jetzt würden mich zwei Dinge interessieren:
- gibt es belastbare derartige Forschung
- welche Funktion haben die intuitiv zu erkennenden Muster in dieser Forschung? Nur eine Lernhilfe für den Spekulanten, aber die eigentliche Analyse erfolgt computerisiert auf Basis von Zahlenmengen, d.h. auch der Spekulant würde direkt mit den numerischen Modellen besser fahren? Oder geht die (intuitive? subjektive?) kategorisierung durch den Forscher in die Auswertung ein - dann stellte sich die Frage der Wissenschaftlichkeit des ganzen.


Es ist viel einfacher:
Technische Analyse funktioniert. Daher ist ein ganzer Wirtschaftszweig entstanden.
Wer nicht dran glaubt braucht technische Analyse nicht zu nutzen.
712  Economy / Speculation / Re: #1 most popular Bitcoin Price Forecasts (subscribe here: bitcoinbullbear.com) on: July 14, 2013, 06:11:42 PM
Today is 14th July 2013 and i didn't recieve anything from you yet, at least a confirmation email about payment would be nice - i mean you do create invoices for your services, don't you?

Stay cool, S3052 was reliable all the time. Record of subscription is included in the email of report. If you're uncertain about your subscription just send an email and it will be answered.

Thanks, and indeed, the report will be issued today as planned.
713  Economy / Speculation / Re: #1 most popular Bitcoin Price Forecasts (subscribe here: bitcoinbullbear.com) on: July 13, 2013, 10:17:53 PM
New short term update just issued to subscribers including education.

And, we still take new subscribers for the special promotional -20% trial offer. Click here: http://bit.ly/1aeEs6Y
714  Economy / Speculation / Re: #1 most popular Bitcoin Price Forecasts (subscribe here: bitcoinbullbear.com) on: July 13, 2013, 12:48:48 PM
for info:
Bitcoin and other forecasts can now also be paid with litecoin and USD
715  Economy / Speculation / Re: #1 most popular Bitcoin Price Forecasts (subscribe here: bitcoinbullbear.com) on: July 10, 2013, 05:51:04 AM
Anyone know when the next weekly report is coming out?

same here, didn't received 1, too. hope you're good to go, S3052.

July 14, 2013 as per the last weekly report.

The last weekly report I got was for June 27. Is this true for everyone else?

Yes.

thanks everyone
We mentioned that the next scheduled full report will be on July 14.
In the meanwhile, we continue to issue interim updates.
We hope you could profit from the last trading idea which led to a +25$ gain per bitcoin
716  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin DOWN, Litecoin UP on: July 06, 2013, 05:40:52 PM
Capital not only out of BTC as in 2011 but actually big part of it IN competitive coins...
Interesting times ahead...

Some people are not running to fiat...yes times have changed.


Cryptos ecosystem is IT in Fast Forward and Economy 100x FF combined...
Only really agile and adaptive people will survive.

+10000
717  Economy / Service Discussion / THE TRUTH: Can someone withdraw fiat money from MTGOX? on: July 02, 2013, 03:31:57 PM
We should get some clarity on MtGox:

Are any fiat withdrawals possible or not? A while ago they suspended USD withdrawals, but mentioned that EUR and other currencies would not be affected.
However, EUR withdrawals seem not to work over the past week.

Who in the forum has the same problem or managed to withdraw fiat currencies?

If anyone from MtGox staff reads this, please be so kind and provide clarity and respond.

thank you
718  Economy / Speculation / Re: MTGOX is drowning, we are gonna see bottom soon on: July 02, 2013, 02:09:20 PM
this is indeed very worrysome about MtGox.

I have the same issue. EUR withrawals dont get processed since 7 days at all.

Didn't they say that EUR withdrawals are unaffected?
719  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin DOWN, Litecoin UP on: July 02, 2013, 12:35:34 PM
litecoin continues to outperform bitcoin
720  Economy / Speculation / Re: #1 most popular Bitcoin Price Forecasts (subscribe here: bitcoinbullbear.com) on: June 27, 2013, 06:42:45 PM
New digital currencies and financial markets report just issued to subscribers.

we have some slots left for new subscribers before the summer period, so feel free to subscribe: http://bit.ly/11Lzaxy
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