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1481  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][EFL] Electronic Gulden - DUTCH CRYPTO - FAIR DISTRIBUTION! on: April 03, 2014, 12:06:28 PM
That's already way better.

Also for you guys I guess; it doesn't take as much time anymore as before and €0,01 * the amount of Dutch citizen isn't bad either ^^. Or is that amount of money for the other party?
1482  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: DigitalCoin.Co | Secure. Established. Active Development | V2.0 Core Announced on: April 03, 2014, 12:02:25 PM
I don't understand it either.

DigiCoin is now about 0.00004998 @ Cryptsy. Time to buy in people Smiley.
1483  Local / Alt Coins (Nederlands) / Re: [ANN][NLG] Guldencoin — Hij is terug. Eerlijke verspreiding vanaf lancering. on: April 02, 2014, 10:25:46 PM
Alright. Ik vrees dat dat niet gaat lukken, maar we zullen zien. Ik vrees dat de difficulty bij de launch toch al heel snel gaat stijgen, en dat je dan net zo goed zondag kan joinen.

We'll see. Bedankt voor de update anyway.
1484  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Mining and Solar Electricity on: April 02, 2014, 10:22:14 PM
I'm not sure what a single Kwh costs me currently, but I think it's about €0,22 (= ~$0.30). It sucks, but there's nothing to do about it. 

Banks these days don't offer such loans here if you already have a (recently / new) mortgage loan, so that's no option for me either.   It's often said that it takes about 10 years to ROI on solar devices over here. Does that really differ from where you are from? I assume expensive kWh = expensive solar devices and cheap kwh = cheaper solar devices somehow.
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If someone would offer me your idea (a mining rig for the "oversize") i would take it, especially when the people self have no $$ risk involved. Currently, mining Dogecoin, it makes you $9.- a day. That's way more than they can get for selling their electricity Smiley.
1485  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin price vs. hash rate? on: April 02, 2014, 10:09:19 PM
So, according to that we will hit the 2000$ this year?

Let's see if this is going to happen. I would love to Smiley. But not yet, yet I keep trading my fiat for more BTC Smiley.

Edit; this post was in reaction to a post which just dissapeared with a graph.
1486  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Mining and Solar Electricity on: April 02, 2014, 10:08:05 PM
I don't know that calculator. I was talking about GPU-miners, which are mining Scrypt coins (like Litecoin), N-Scrypt coins or Scrypt-Jane coins.    They (the GPU's) also do produce heat, so that's a win-win situation in the winter ^^.
1487  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Mining and Solar Electricity on: April 02, 2014, 10:00:07 PM
I would love to have solar devices on my roof with 20-30% "oversize", and I would definitately use it for mining coins. Unfortunately that investment here in The Netherlands is going to cost me a huge amount of money which I don't have now.

I'm not sure whether your idea is attractive to all people, but it is for people which are already into mining.  I think if you don't even know what Bitcoin is, or - even more difficult - how to mine, you don't want a rig in your house. The latter, you will just "sell" your energy.

With a (GPU) miner of 2000 watt I think you've got a hashrate between 3500/4000 khash/s. You can use http://www.coinwarz.com/cryptocurrency to see how many coins you can mine with this, and how many $ this is going to earn you.

(Use this direct URL and you will see how much you currently can earn with 4000 kh/s, without having electricity costs in mind: http://www.coinwarz.com/cryptocurrency/?sha256hr=1.00&sha256p=100.00&sha256pc=0.1000&scrypthr=4000&scryptp=2000&scryptpc=0.0&scryptnhr=450.00&scryptnp=500.00&scryptnpc=0.1000&sha256c=true&scryptc=true&e=Bitstamp)


1488  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Gambits Official Pump Thread (New Profit Coming Soon) on: April 02, 2014, 09:50:15 PM
I do want DigitalCoin to increase in value, but I don't want to see it getting dumped. It simply doesn't deserves it.

Try the good old GrandCoin Smiley. Or maybe TIPS.
1489  Local / Alt Coins (Nederlands) / Re: [ANN][NLG] Guldencoin — Hij is terug. Eerlijke verspreiding vanaf lancering. on: April 02, 2014, 09:48:18 PM
11 Uur dus, dan ben ik gelukkig thuis. Check, I'll be there Wink.

Eens zien wat de difficulty de eerste uren gaat doen. Als deze naar insanity gaat door de vele mh's, dan lijkt het mij verstandiger om na enkele dagen te gaan minen. Dat zie ik de laatste tijd veel vaker ^^.
1490  Economy / Speculation / Re: I'm Out on: April 02, 2014, 09:46:28 PM
Honestly, if you jump in at the current (low) level I really think it will give you profit.

That's also the reason that I keep buying BTC instead of selling. And no, I'm not trying to attract people into Bitcoin. You should make this decision all by yourself, but that's my vision Wink.
1491  Local / Alt Coins (Nederlands) / Re: eGulden (binnenkort) on: April 02, 2014, 09:43:40 PM
Er bestaat nu ook een GuldenCoin zag ik toevallig. Is dat de coin waar hierover gepraat wordt, of komt er nóg een coin gebaseerd op de Gulden? ^^

Ik ben benieuwd wat de GuldenCoin ons gaat brengen.
1492  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][NLG] Guldencoin — It's back. Fair distribution. on: April 02, 2014, 09:42:25 PM
Holycow this coin has great potential. Sorry but the passport idea EFL has is plain silly. Will be interesting to see what distribution plans this one has.

I share this vision, atleast the last part about the passport idea.

I'll join at the 4th of April!  Let's hope Magnet isn't coin to drive this coin difficulty into insanity ^^.
1493  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin price vs. hash rate? on: April 02, 2014, 09:37:19 PM
Higher difficulty -> higher each BTC cost of production -> higher BTC/USD price.
Therefore if the difficulty will continue rising, the price will catch up almost certainly!

Higher price of bitcoins -> more profitable to mine -> more mining -> higher difficulty.

Agree. And then it goes back around from higher difficulty > higher price I guess.

Maybe if the developers of mining gear don't follow up, we will reach a point where mining isn't profitable anymore (regarding to the energy costs it take), and then it will stay at a stable level.
But this won't be the fact of the developers keep developing more efficient gear.
1494  Local / Mining (Nederlands) / Re: PBmining on: April 02, 2014, 09:28:32 PM
0.008 en 0.004 bedoel je? In dat geval is Cex.io beter, omdat je daar dus ook je Gh/s nog kunt doorverkopen. Voor 0.004 gh/s is het wellicht wel de moeite waard.. We'll see.
1495  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: DigitalCoin.Co | Secure. Established. Active Development | V2.0 Core Announced on: April 02, 2014, 09:22:02 PM
Is 1.1 the latest version? It wont synchronize with that wallet.

It's stuck on the end of february here. I downloaded it again at the website, and that's also version 1.1.

Edit: I added some nodes and now it's working. So never mind ^^

(I added these:

Quote
addnode=54.208.77.156:7999
addnode=184.175.17.23:51670
addnode=218.186.33.201:52094
addnode=190.77.216.173:55213
addnode=72.223.10.73:63654
addnode=5.49.28.53:7999
addnode=88.100.224.87:15269
addnode=121.101.219.226:7999
addnode=176.9.189.114:47011
addnode=95.95.120.78:7999
addnode=89.224.150.50:55036
addnode=71.68.80.253:55085
addnode=192.241.207.130:45835
addnode=83.145.25.80:62270
addnode=107.2.103.183:50112
addnode=50.127.134.4:57184
addnode=67.170.209.246:7999
addnode=191.177.209.159:51758
addnode=70.122.124.50:58894
addnode=92.25.10.29:7999
addnode=105.184.15.254:51113
addnode=24.237.32.79:7999
addnode=95.211.38.218:32760
addnode=68.14.170.140:7999
addnode=67.165.121.202:49738
addnode=46.4.32.195:25105

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1496  Local / Mining (Nederlands) / Re: PBmining on: April 02, 2014, 07:51:15 PM
Hm. In dit topic heb ik ook de vraag gesteld:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=539862.60

Je kunt namelijk ook voor Ghash.io kiezen. Die is weliswaar duurder, maar daar heb je de optie om je Gh/s wederom te verkopen.  Ik kreeg daar het volgende antwoord; - al houdt deze niet rekening met een (stijgende) difficulty -:


So, if someone still wants to rent Gh/s these days, you recommend them to use PBMining? Smiley

This is a tricky question. PBMining has the lowest price per GHS so far and the website seems to run pretty smoothly. CEX has a higher GHS price but you can also resell your GHS anytime you want. I am running some numbers as we speak.

Let's create a hypo. Let's say that I buy 100 GHS on CEX and 100 GHS on PBMining right now.

I would pay 1.18 BTC on CEX at its current GHS/BTC price. I would get the same amount of GHS from PBMining at 0.7 BTC.

Let's assume that difficulty does not change, as this value does not really affect our analysis, which is focused on same amount of GHS mining roughly the same amount of BTC every day.

After 60 days of mining, CEX would have mined for me 0.506016 BTC (considering that CEX charges around 16% fee). PBMining would have mined for me 0.6024 BTC.

If you see these numbers you tend to think that PBMining is better. But if I stop mining for some reason on day 60, I can resell my GHS on CEX. Let's assume that the GHS/BTC value is 0.010 on CEX, I would then get a total of 1.506016 BTC (sold GHS and mined BTC), while on PBMining I would still be stuck with my 0.6024 BTC.

Let's say that I don't cash in and I keep on mining.

After 120 days, my profit with CEX would be 1.012032 BTC, with PBMining 1.2048. PBMining is still better but if I sell my GHS on CEX at, let's say, 0.007 I would get a total of 1.712032.

Any thoughts?


Natuurlijk duurt het langer voordat je je kosten eruit hebt als de difficulty stijgt.. Maar hoelang dat precies gaat duren krijg ik niet berekend.
1497  Economy / Services / Re: [PrimeDice] [Highest Paid Signature] Earn up to 2.4 BTC/Month by Posting on: April 02, 2014, 04:53:40 PM
Ah, so that "Yup" means this round? I didn't thought about this in first instance.

Thanks for answering my question Deisik, hehe. Sorry!
1498  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: @BTCWhale stolen my money on: April 02, 2014, 04:52:43 PM
I totally agree with your MiningViking. As their child isn't repaying the money he obviously scammed from much people, the people which have been scammed do have some rights to find ways to make the scammer pay his debt in my opinion.

Whether you have to contact a parent of someone else, doesn't matter in my opinion. He shouldn't scam people. If he wouldn't scam people, his parents didn't receive any Phone call about this.
1499  Economy / Services / Re: [PrimeDice] [Highest Paid Signature] Earn up to 2.4 BTC/Month by Posting on: April 02, 2014, 04:49:25 PM
Do the new rates apply right from the start of this round/term, i.e. March, 17? Cool

Yup, sorry I wasn't clear on this. Thanks for asking.

Nice, but Full Members might have got more... Grin
Now hope in next few days we have some new rates for Ritz members also because he want to be on top paying OP on this forum for some time Shocked

I'm not sure whether we should want that. If such "reward increasing war" take place, it will put high pressure on profit of the websites (PrimeDice and Ritzcasino), and one of them might have to quit doing these campaigns. And then, we're screwed Smiley.

@ Stunna; now you stated the rewards have been increased at 2 april 2014. Will - for full members - the days before today be counted as 0.0003 per post and since today 0.0004, or will they all count as 0.0004?
1500  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: My cloud mining experiment on: April 02, 2014, 04:46:52 PM
Ah yeah, sorry.

How often does the difficulty increases? And by how much on average? I think it's about +20% doesn't it?  Unfortunately I fail at math, otherwise I could have made a more realistic ROI calculation.

Thanks anyway!
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