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1561  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Atheism and Health on: May 11, 2016, 12:15:09 PM
Jump in STDs Due to Unknown Online Dating?
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/05/10/jump-in-stds-could-be-due-to-unknown-online-dating-partners/

In 2014, 1.4 million cases of chlamydia were reported in the USA – a 2.8 percent increase over the prior year, while 350,062 cases of gonorrhea were reported – an increase of 5.1 percent since 2013.

Similarly, nearly 20,000 primary and secondary syphilis cases were reported in 2014, a hike of 15.1 percent since 2013, while 458 cases of congenital syphilis were discovered and reported – a 27.5 percent increase over the prior year.

Quote
The increasing number of sexually transmitted diseases (STDs) seen nationwide could be due to the fact that more Americans are using online and mobile dating sites where it is difficult to know who is already afflicted with STDs, an expert says.

“Public health succeeds by tracking the partner and getting that person treated,” says Dr. Peter Beilenson, CEO of Evergreen Health, reports local Fox News in Baltimore. “And with online dating and people not even knowing who the person is, if you come down with chlamydia or gonorrhea, let’s say, and you want to make sure you treat the partner, there’s no way of knowing who the partner is.”
1562  Economy / Economics / Re: Economic Devastation on: May 08, 2016, 07:04:02 PM
Coming soon to a socialist paradise near you.

Family Planning Police Screen Women Four Times a Year for Pregnancy
http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2016/05/07/chinas-family-planning-police-screen-women-four-times-year-pregnancy/

Quote
According to a recent report from the BBC, all Chinese women of childbearing age have mandatory check-ups four times a year to ensure they are healthy and not pregnant without permission. A couple needs official approval before starting a family and must ask permission before trying to conceive. Population officers keep strict tabs on each woman’s medical history, listing the children she has, the contraception she uses, and any terminated pregnancies.

The Communist Party employs an estimated one million people in its army of family planning officials, who patrol the land, enforcing China’s strict population-control policies.

When you make redistribution a natural right and pay for such redistribution with an unsustainable economic system you eventually reach the point where promised handouts cannot be paid. At that point the path if least resistance is population controls and reproductive restrictions. It is likely a matter of when not if such measures are introduced in the west.
1563  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Atheism and Health on: April 29, 2016, 02:52:03 AM
A couple of interesting news article today related to health and totalitarianism

"Why Our Children Should Hate Us" - Read The Lance Simmens Article Banned By The Huffington Post
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-04-28/why-our-children-should-hate-us-read-lance-simmens-article-banned-huffington-post

Quote from: ZeroHedge
Although Lance Simmens has been intimately involved in public life for several decades, you’ve probably never heard of him. As such, a little introduction is needed.

As mentioned, Lance Simmens’ career was spent in public policy. Specifically, he worked for two U.S. Presidents as well as a couple of senators and governors. Since retirement, he’s been a prolific writer, publishing 180 articles at the Huffington Post over the past 8 years. As such, it came as a great shock to him to discover that one of his recent articles was removed by the Huffington Post shortly after publication. It was the first article ever rejected by the online publication, and the unacceptable subject matter was nothing more than a positive review of the banned everywhere documentary VAXXED.


Icegate: Now NSIDC Caught Tampering With Climate Records
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/04/28/icegate-now-nsidc-caught-tampering-with-climate-records/

Quote from: Breitbart
NSIDC’s comprised a press release a few weeks ago claiming that 5+ year old sea ice is at its smallest level on record. To prove it, they’ve produced a new chart...

But according to Steven Goddard of the Real Science website this claim needs to be taken with a huge pinch of salt... they’ve gone and deleted all the old style maps from their archive.

At least they thought they had.

But a sharp eyed reader of Goddard’s managed to find one old style map that NSIDC had forgotten to delete. This enabled Goddard to compare the new style map with an old style map for the same week. What he discovered is that NSIDC has been making some dramatic and unexplained adjustments to the record: about half the 5+ year sea ice which should be there, for example, has been mysteriously erased.

When debate is censored and forbidden and scientific data is 'corrected' to fit the approved narratives one knows we are living in very dangerous times. In the words of C.S. Lewis

Quote from: C.S. Lewis
Of all tyrannies a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive

1564  Economy / Economics / Re: Economic Totalitarianism on: April 29, 2016, 02:50:30 AM
A couple of interesting news article today related to health and totalitarianism

"Why Our Children Should Hate Us" - Read The Lance Simmens Article Banned By The Huffington Post
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-04-28/why-our-children-should-hate-us-read-lance-simmens-article-banned-huffington-post

Quote from: ZeroHedge
Although Lance Simmens has been intimately involved in public life for several decades, you’ve probably never heard of him. As such, a little introduction is needed.

As mentioned, Lance Simmens’ career was spent in public policy. Specifically, he worked for two U.S. Presidents as well as a couple of senators and governors. Since retirement, he’s been a prolific writer, publishing 180 articles at the Huffington Post over the past 8 years. As such, it came as a great shock to him to discover that one of his recent articles was removed by the Huffington Post shortly after publication. It was the first article ever rejected by the online publication, and the unacceptable subject matter was nothing more than a positive review of the banned everywhere documentary VAXXED.


Icegate: Now NSIDC Caught Tampering With Climate Records
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/04/28/icegate-now-nsidc-caught-tampering-with-climate-records/

Quote from: Breitbart
NSIDC’s comprised a press release a few weeks ago claiming that 5+ year old sea ice is at its smallest level on record. To prove it, they’ve produced a new chart...

But according to Steven Goddard of the Real Science website this claim needs to be taken with a huge pinch of salt... they’ve gone and deleted all the old style maps from their archive.

At least they thought they had.

But a sharp eyed reader of Goddard’s managed to find one old style map that NSIDC had forgotten to delete. This enabled Goddard to compare the new style map with an old style map for the same week. What he discovered is that NSIDC has been making some dramatic and unexplained adjustments to the record: about half the 5+ year sea ice which should be there, for example, has been mysteriously erased.

When debate is censored and forbidden and scientific data is 'corrected' to fit the approved narratives one knows we are living in very dangerous times. In the words of C.S. Lewis

Quote from: C.S. Lewis
Of all tyrannies a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive
1565  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Atheism and Health on: April 28, 2016, 11:06:04 PM
Move to Belize.    Cool

EDIT: Let the dead in America bury their own dead.

Belize huh?

Humm that is not a country I have much familiarity with.
I read the Wikipedia article on it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belize

I did not know there were any former English colonies in Central America or any where English is the official language. While I am not interested in moving at this moment I will add it to my to do list of countries to visit. It looks interesting.
1566  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Atheism and Health on: April 28, 2016, 06:19:27 PM
Tinder Social: App launches tool to let people go on 'dates' in groups
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/tinder-social-app-launches-tool-to-let-people-go-on-dates-in-groups-a7003721.html

Quote from: independent.co.uk
people have already pointed out that since Tinder is often used for casual sex, the feature appears to be useful for finding people to engage in group sex with.

The company announced the feature with a blog post that said it was a way of taking “an average night out with your friends to the next level”.

I guess random hookups get boring after a while so tinder has to take things to their 'next level'. The challenge for a parent in this day and age is how to best immunize children against against the increasing amount of sewage that is being dumped on everyone (especially the young) on a daily basis.
1567  Economy / Economics / Re: Economic Totalitarianism on: April 23, 2016, 04:51:57 AM
We ought to put you two on a stage, and have at it (intellectual discussion) with an auditorium full of Philosophy, Poli Sci and Law School professors...

Ha ha isn't that more or less where we are now?  Grin

1568  Economy / Economics / Re: Economic Totalitarianism on: April 23, 2016, 12:46:48 AM
...
The Millennials have always been immature for their age. They've got the part down now about the bankers fucking us over, but they haven't yet learned the reality of not balancing the budget. When they lose their social security entirely and the economy goes belly up in 2018, they will start to grow up real fast and then we will see. I don't think they will support piling on more socialism to try to solve the problem. If they are that incapable of learning, then maybe the entire USA will get sucked down.

But there is this little problem. There are a lot of conservative Americans with guns. And they are not going to let the government rape them. When the shit hits the fan, they will take control. Stoic guns versus giggling faggots and I think you know who will be the boss.

I don't know yet for sure where the conservatives are going to congregate to make their stand. Maybe you are correct they will all migrate to Montana, but I doubt it. And I have no doubt whatsoever that they are not going to lay over and let the socialism run all over them.

The government can't kill millions of armed Americans. The elite will be forced into a stalemate same as at Bundy Ranch. The armed Americans will simply refuse to recognize the authority of the government. Bundy Ranch is a small example of what is coming on a much larger scale.

The conversatives have been waiting for this for a long time. They are hoping the confrontation comes soon as possible (because we ain't gettin' any youngeryonder).
...

I would counter this argument with another argument made by iamback some time ago  Wink

Correcting false (strawman) dichotomies

CoinCube, my point from the outset of the recent discussion with you et al, was that no one can fight socialism by trying to get the entire country (nor West) to reverse course. "Slowing socialism down" is another collectivized ideal, thus antithetical to the truth. Precisely the problem with collectivism is that there can be only one direction (no degrees-of-freedom).

Rather decentralized self-sufficiency actions (e.g. finding gainful vocation in the Knowledge Age in a way that prevents the State from expropriating your earnings) that better you and yours do in fact slow socialism down, but not because that collective goal was your motivation. As soon as a person bases their actions around a collective goal at nation-state scope (e.g. we must politically stop the expropriation), they are no longer prioritizing decentralized maximum-division-of-labor knowledge formation and have become a socialist.

I am just telling everyone to give up on that patriotic crap, because it can't be orthogonal to collectivism. Instead view yourself as a citizen of your own sovereign world, not of a country of your compatriot slaves. Why be a slave to a country?

Instead be clever about maximizing your and yours situation.

There is no fundamental difference between fighting to "slow socialism down" by trying to get the entire country (or West) to reverse course. And fighting to "slowing socialism down" by getting a portion of a country ie Texas to reverse course. The arguments above by iamback apply just as much to the state as they do to the nation.

In what way are these mutually exclusive? Provided one does not neglect personal decentralized self-sufficiency why shouldn't a rational actor in our current environment also participate in the local collective and attempt to restrain said collective. To do otherwise is to yield the floor to those who will make decentralized self-sufficiency more difficult to achieve.

Because you will waste time and effort that could have been used to actually achieve it without being slave (dependent) on what the State does. And you will not stop the State from spiraling into the abyss, because the majority is going to demand expropriation. You can't suddenly change the situation of the majority. The majority has no other option and all the (political or even violent) fighting you do can't give them another option.

The economic reality and trajectory was written into stone decades ago. It can't be altered. The economic reality is what it is.

My advice to everyone is pay off all your debt because in a deflationary collapse that is underway (see oil under $50 today!) the government can take your assets and leave you with debt to pay but no assets to pay with. And debtor's prisons are returning. Even though I was reduced to near pauper, I prioritized paying off my credit card debts in 2014 and did pay $20,000 of it off for less than $10,000 by accepting best offers for negotiated settlement. I only have about $2000 of debt remaining (except that my ex took out a $25,000 student loan recently and I don't know if the USA will try to pin that on me).

Also radically reduce the risk to unjust IRS audits and assessments, because these will become more common.

Also radically reduce the risk to lawsuits, because these will become more common as westerners get desperate.

Then the next priority is to align your vocation with the Knowledge Age and so you have income even during global economic collapse and your skills are transportable to any location you might choose to move to as the chaos takes form.

Gold can become an albatross around your neck, because you can't reliably and easily move it internationally. In fact, I lost much of my wealth because I couldn't physically carry my 18,000oz with me from USA to the Philippines, and so I had to trust others and that is one facet of where the losses accrued over time.

There is a third possibility to a breakup as envisioned above. That possibility is that the entire world is consumed by varying degrees of socialism with a few pockets here are there being less socialist than others. 
1569  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Cthulhu for president! on: April 22, 2016, 07:24:10 PM
I played this game with my family a few months ago.

Eldrich Horror
https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/products/eldritch-horror/

Its a fun little cooperative game where you try to save the world from Cthulhu




1570  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [neㄘcash, ᨇcash, net⚷eys, or viᖚes?] Name AnonyMint's vapor coin? on: April 21, 2016, 08:53:28 PM
I really liked Lamma Island when I visited there as a tourist many years ago.
Lots of expats not to developed and an easy ferry ride to Hong Kong.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lamma_Island

1571  Economy / Economics / Re: Economic Totalitarianism on: April 21, 2016, 05:11:21 PM
Not all Americans are dependent on the government. And these conservatives are pissed off. They will not tolerate being forced to pay taxes to support the rest. And this will grow as taxes increase.

The liberals will stay with the government and will bankrupt it, as the conservatives will refuse to pay for it, and break (defect en mass organized) away.

Armstrong's model will not be incorrect.

Maybe, but from what I have seen most of the south is very much dependent on centralized government handouts.

Lets look at the states with the most food stamp recipients.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/personalfinance/2015/01/17/cheat-sheet-states-with-most-food-stamps/21877399/

#1. Washington DC: Percentage of the state's population on food stamps: 21.97%
#2. Mississippi: Percentage of the state's population on food stamps: 21.74%
#3. New Mexico: Percentage of the state's population on food stamps: 21.5%
#4. West Virginia: Percentage of the state's population on food stamps: 19.96%
#6. Tennessee: Percentage of the state's population on food stamps: 19.58%
#7. Louisiana: Percentage of the state's population on food stamps: 18.67%

Now lets look at the states that are most dependent on federal spending overall
https://wallethub.com/edu/states-most-least-dependent-on-the-federal-government/2700/

#1 Mississippi
#2 New Mexico   
#3 Alabama
#4 Louisiana
#5 Tennessee

So you have 20% of the population dependent on the government just for food aid. That does not include dependence due to health care and retirement benefits or everything else.  Most Americans are now dependent on the government financially and this is true of the south as well.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/merrillmatthews/2014/07/02/weve-crossed-the-tipping-point-most-americans-now-receive-government-benefits/#1b67102c6233

Quote from: forbes
perhaps 52 percent of U.S. households—more than half—now receive benefits from the government

This dependency is true of red states also. Breaking away would disrupt the supply of 'free stuff' so I am very skeptical it will ever happen.
1572  Economy / Economics / Re: Economic Devastation on: April 21, 2016, 03:36:49 AM
No way to fix the system, equity markets which drives our economy today can be though of as organic mechanisms because they comprise of companies which behave like organisms which are born, live and die (because they can't keep up with innovation).. thus you will have one economy "die" and another born out of innovation and realization of a technology or idea that will uplift confidence enough for people to jump in. That is where we are at now, internet brought us through the last bubble but we are due for a bigger realization of how we work and live, and thus we need to see the current business models "die" and new ones emerge like offspring based on the new tech, which will take years (hence decades of depression like living)... theres no way around it, you can't take 100+ years of a system that has grown out of control and expect to change it on the fly, too much friction both top and bottom.

There will always be pockets of robust health even in an unhealthy and overall depressed system. Once you identify the near term trajectory as toxic or depressed the next step is to identify and join one of these pockets.   
1573  Economy / Economics / Re: Economic Totalitarianism on: April 21, 2016, 03:28:12 AM
yeah but my point is the liberals have taken over the conservative icons of our history. This represents an unacceptable slap in the face to the conservatives. They are nearing the point of mass revolt. The USA will split along liberal and conservative divides. The southern Bible belt will break away.

Nearing the point of disorder and social unrest yes but break away? I am skeptical that an overall population dependent on government will do this. The general public has no understanding of fundamental etiology and thus lack the ability to advocate for coherent solutions. They are simply angry. They will push for and support people with 'answers'.

In this election cycle both Trump and Sanders are trying to capitalize on this anger Trump via appeals to nationalism and Sanders by appeals to socialism and redistribution. Nationalism is dying but it may just be alive enough to win one last election cycle. Even if Trump wins, however, I believe it will change little maybe delay the inevitable for a few years if that. The near future for better or worse belongs to people like Sanders. This will be the case until the demographics fundamentally change and allow for something better which will take a long time.
1574  Economy / Economics / Re: Economic Totalitarianism on: April 21, 2016, 03:11:49 AM

I am skeptical about about claims that this is widely distributed in the food supply. To hard to hide and too much blow back if it became known. Also anything along these lines that worked would require multiple repeated exposures to be effective and permanent immunity does not exist. The body does not like to attack itself and has numerous safeties built in to prevent such attacks from occurring. They have tried to make an infertility vaccine by conjugating tetanus toxoid one of the most immune provoking substance known with Beta hCG (a molecule required to sustain pregnancy) and even in this target form it does not really work very well.

Some background medical information. The tetanus toxoid provokes a strong and immediate immune response in humans. It has historically been conjugated with other agents to make vaccines against those agents. For example Haemophilus influenza a leading cause of childhood meningitis does not produce much of a protective immune response when given to children by itself but when injected along with the tetanus toxoid it produces a powerful and protective immune response. Similarly it is possible to provoke an immune response to other things by attaching them to the tetanus toxoid.

Notably it is possible to make a pregnancy vaccine by coupling the tetanus toxoid to Beta hCG.
Beta hCG is the same molecule measured in over the counter urine pregnancy tests and is required to sustain early pregnancy. By coupling the tetanus toxoid with beta-hCG you can create antibodies to hCG that prevent pregnancy.

This "vaccine" was developed in 1997 and is called the HSD-hCG. As of 1997 this prevented pregnancy for 6 months but required booster shots every six months as the vaccine lost effect as the immune response died down.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9083611

In a world dependent on socialism reproduction must inevitably become a government granted privilege rather then a right. Once 'free stuff' becomes a natural right eventually there will come a time when there is not enough actual production to supply 'free stuff' for everybody. At this point the natural tendency is for both the producers and consumers is to support measures lowering the numbers of 'free stuff' claimants. Antifertility vaccines and foods could be rolled out openly in such an environment with government supplied freebies being conditioned on maintaining your 'vaccination' status or perhaps with the 'vaccine' being supplied in the 'free stuff' itself. 
1575  Economy / Economics / Re: Economic Totalitarianism on: April 21, 2016, 01:41:49 AM
They don't want Andrew Jackson on the US $20s anymore...

Another sign that the USA is dead and will break apart.

From what I have read about Andrew Jackson I suspect he would not have want his image associated with today's $20
1576  Economy / Economics / Re: Economic Devastation on: April 19, 2016, 12:30:28 AM
Just end the welfare system, and then all problems will be solved.

Remove the regulations, lower the taxes, encourage entrepreneurism in public schools, make more free market jobs, phase out welfare, and then we can live in prosperity.



That's like removing greed from our gene's... unlikely

I would argue that it's more like removing the tendency towards interpersonal violence from our genes.

Completely and utterly impossible over the short run. Probably spontaneous over the long run.
1577  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Atheism and Health on: April 13, 2016, 03:37:17 AM
From my experience of a best friend who is Mormon in the UK, I can only say that she was highly motivated to find a fellow Morman guy to marry and had a criteria of being very religious, fit and attractive but also wealthy. She said that her motivation for a wealthy husband was not standard greed (as this was anathema to her religious views) but was mostly due to their want/need to give the church 10% of their earnings straight from their wages. The fact she wanted a fit and healthy husband was also in part due to her wanting to have a large family and needing a husband who could not only provide financially for that but also to help keep up with the strains of a large household.

Sounds like your friend is a very smart lady. Hopefully she succeeded in her goals. Increasingly finding a suitable partner for marriage is becoming very difficult for both genders. The financial risks of marriage in the US are causing large swaths of otherwise successful young men to opt out of marriage altogether. Women are often misguided into sacrificing personal life on the alter of professionalism until it is too late to have a large family even if they wanted one.  

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/barbara-hollingsworth/bachelor-nation-70-men-aged-20-34-are-not-married

Quote from: cnsnews
Seventy percent of American males between the ages of 20 and 34 are not married, and many live in a state of “perpetual adolescence” with ominous consequences for the nation’s future,
...
“The ones who are very serious get married early. And that leaves the majority of the girls, then, by the time they’re 25 and into their first jobs, the pickings are very, very slim for them."

If you want to read a bunch of post by angry men who have opted out of the marriage market read the comments at the bottom of that news article above. Most of them are angry manosphere folks. The manosphere movement appears to be rapidly morphing into the male version of feminism. When you think that for every one of those angry unmarried men there is probably a matching angry unmarried feminist the toxic nature of modern culture comes into focus. The youth are opting to avoid marriage and families altogether. What are they doing instead? Well increasingly they appear to be celebratory participants in the hedonistic dating apocalypse

Quote from: vanityfair
It’s setting up two or three Tinder dates a week and, chances are, sleeping with all of them, so you could rack up 100 girls you’ve slept with in a year.”

He says that he himself has slept with five different women he met on Tinder—“Tinderellas,” the guys call them—in the last eight days. “Brittany, Morgan, Amber,” Marty says, counting on his fingers. “Oh, and the Russian—Ukrainian?”

But Marty, who prefers Hinge to Tinder (“Hinge is my thing”), is no slouch at “racking up girls.” He says he’s slept with 30 to 40 women in the last year. “I sort of play that I could be a boyfriend kind of guy,” in order to win them over, “but then they start wanting me to care more … and I just don’t.”

“There is no dating. There’s no relationships,” says Amanda, the tall elegant one. “They’re rare. You can have a fling that could last like seven, eight months and you could never actually call someone your ‘boyfriend.’ [Hooking up] is a lot easier. No one gets hurt—well, not on the surface. It’s a contest to see who cares less, and guys win a lot at caring less,” Amanda says."

“But if you say any of this out loud, it’s like you’re weak, you’re not independent, you somehow missed the whole memo about third-wave feminism,” says Amanda.

“When it’s so easy, when it’s so available to you,” Brian says intensely, “and you can meet somebody and fuck them in 20 minutes, it’s very hard to contain yourself.”

Rebecca, the blonde with the canny eyes, also mentioned above, hooked up with someone, too. “It was O.K.” She shrugs. “Right after it was done, it was kind of like, mmmp … mmmp.” She gives a little grunt of disappointment.

“It’s a confidence booster,” says Jessica, 21, the one who looks like a Swedish tennis player.

Sad, tragic, and terribly unhealthy all around for both genders.
1578  Economy / Economics / Re: Economic Devastation on: April 12, 2016, 03:06:27 AM

... but you must have an open mind, and dont fall into the dogma, not even for scientists.

RealBitcoin I place more priority on the quoted aspect of your thinking above rather then some of your other comments.

For example you appear to have summarily rejected all of modern string theory as 11 dimensional irrationality but is that really what string theory is?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/String_theory
Quote from: String Theory
In physics, string theory is a theoretical framework in which the point-like particles of particle physics are replaced by one-dimensional objects called strings. It describes how these strings propagate through space and interact with each other. On distance scales larger than the string scale, a string looks just like an ordinary particle, with its mass, charge, and other properties determined by the vibrational state of the string. In string theory, one of the many vibrational states of the string corresponds to the graviton, a quantum mechanical particle that carries gravitational force. Thus string theory is a theory of quantum gravity.

String theory is a broad and varied subject that attempts to address a number of deep questions of fundamental physics. String theory has been applied to a variety of problems in black hole physics, early universe cosmology, nuclear physics, and condensed matter physics, and it has stimulated a number of major developments in pure mathematics. Because string theory potentially provides a unified description of gravity and particle physics, it is a candidate for a theory of everything, a self-contained mathematical model that describes all fundamental forces and forms of matter. Despite much work on these problems, it is not known to what extent string theory describes the real world or how much freedom the theory allows to choose the details.

String theory is not one uniform "11 dimensional theory" it is simply a broad and theoretical framework physicist have developed to try and understand how the universe works.  As it is so broad it allows vastly different conceptualizations. For example both the theory of quantum gravity (graviton) and the holographic principle where gravity = entropy were derived by string theorists but these interpretations are mutually exclusive.

Our inability to intuitively grasp string theory is not grounds for rejecting it as string theory describes events on a scale so small we should expect it to be utterly alien to us. Einsteins relativity at relativistic speeds gives similarly alien conceptualizations as time passes at different rates in different frames of reference. Einstein's theory gained wide acceptance because he was able to explain astronomical phenonoma that Newtonian physics could not. Specifically his theory was able to accurately describe the precession of the perihelion of Mercury. String theory does not yet have a similar empirical test but it remains possible that someday it will. Until empiric confirmation is obtained string theory should be treated only as a possibility. However, outright rejection is simply premature for string theory has not been falsified.
1579  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Atheism and Health on: April 10, 2016, 01:03:26 PM
Combining the above insights leads us to the idea that the world around us indeed the entire universe is simply the projection of a deeper fundamental reality. A universe with consciousness, as its ultimate teleology...
...
If it's true, then forces like gravity and physics entire can just be thrown in a trash can.

Because they only explain the interaction of the projected things on the canvas, but they can never explain the canvas itself.

Every time such a claim is made, someone shows a way to route around the limitation.

Qwik2learn above draws our attention to the mathematician Kurt Godel who is famous for his incompleteness theorems.

First incompleteness theorem
Any consistent formal system F within which a certain amount of elementary arithmetic can be carried out is incomplete; i.e., there are statements of the language of F which can neither be proved nor disproved in F.

Second incompleteness theorem
For any consistent system F within which a certain amount of elementary arithmetic can be carried out, the consistency of F cannot be proved in F itself.

A formal system is consistent if there is no statement such that the statement itself and its negation are both derivable in the system.
http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/goedel-incompleteness/#Int

Godels incompleteness theorem tells us that for any overarching logical system no mater how complete there will exist unprovable assertions which if assumed true will require a priori knowledge (truths which are assumed but cannot be proven from within the system).

With this in mind the logical course of action is to work to minimize our reliance on such assumptions via logic and scientific inquiry while ensuring that our chosen system is not inconsistent for it is an elementary fact of logic that in an inconsistent formal system every statement is derivable, and consequently, such a system is trivially complete (and useless).
1580  Economy / Economics / Re: Economic Devastation on: April 10, 2016, 12:58:07 PM
Combining the above insights leads us to the idea that the world around us indeed the entire universe is simply the projection of a deeper fundamental reality. A universe with consciousness, as its ultimate teleology...
...
If it's true, then forces like gravity and physics entire can just be thrown in a trash can.

Because they only explain the interaction of the projected things on the canvas, but they can never explain the canvas itself.

Every time such a claim is made, someone shows a way to route around the limitation.

Qwik2learn above draws our attention to the mathematician Kurt Godel who is famous for his incompleteness theorems.

First incompleteness theorem
Any consistent formal system F within which a certain amount of elementary arithmetic can be carried out is incomplete; i.e., there are statements of the language of F which can neither be proved nor disproved in F.

Second incompleteness theorem
For any consistent system F within which a certain amount of elementary arithmetic can be carried out, the consistency of F cannot be proved in F itself.

A formal system is consistent if there is no statement such that the statement itself and its negation are both derivable in the system.
http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/goedel-incompleteness/#Int

Godels incompleteness theorem tells us that for any overarching logical system no mater how complete there will exist unprovable assertions which if assumed true will require a priori knowledge (truths which are assumed but cannot be proven from within the system).

With this in mind the logical course of action is to work to minimize our reliance on such assumptions via logic and scientific inquiry while ensuring that our chosen system is not inconsistent for it is an elementary fact of logic that in an inconsistent formal system every statement is derivable, and consequently, such a system is trivially complete (and useless).
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