Thing is if we drop to single digits especially mid-range single digits, I know me personally, will be snatching them up happily. I'm not sure how many people have the same mindset as me but I'm sure I'm not the only one. Will it be a good idea? Maybe, Maybe not. Though I also feel if we drop below 10 there will be a lot of panic selling.
Bingo, dropping this low is, to me, not a sign that this thing is anything I ought to put anymore money into. Wow never heard you say anything like that before.  |
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Has anyone got dwollasucks.com yet?
I'm sure the community would like to see that happen.
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Maybe not put up information which you can't prove then?
I'm not enamored with trying to prove something in a thread about an online tv show to you. Then that would explain why you are still posting to this thread? Move on buddy. Hey man bruce admitted he had lots of coin as well as lots of his friends in mybitcoin. its not secret or speculation. |
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I'd imagine it's pretty hard to want to do a show when you realize you lost 25K bitcoins this week
Does anyone know what that's like?
Where is the source of this information you are speaking of? look around for an NPR podcast, the reporter saw that someone in the onetv studio left this wallet up. Bruce might have confirmed it was his. Okay so you are just speculating if there is no source you are citing. He speaks troof. From bruces own hands in the Conference thread. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=6150.80 |
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The UABB is now spearheading a legal and unbiased investigation into MyBitcoin.com but needs your support. Discussion about MyBitcoin.com is very healthy for the sharing of ideas and suggestions on how to tackle this very serious and difficult problem, but nothing will be done about it through forum posts.
Please start contributing to the actual investigation by adding your affidavit, attaching evidence of funds lost, and contributing to the fund to pay for international investigators. Thank you.
http://uabci.org/redmine/projects/mbci
You seemed to be taking up for mybitcoin when people were calling it a scam a while back. |
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I can't promise the exact size of the tables, but assume they will likely be either 30" x 30" card tables.... Or half of a 5' x 2.5' banquet table... giving a table surface size of 2.5' x 2.5'.... which we are calling "one vendor table". The entire 5' x 2.5' table being "two vendor tables".
I believe we will have room for approximately 20 "vendor tables" (as described above).
I'm going to reduce the price of vendor tables to 10 Bitcoin again within the next few hours. I'll have to keep a very close eye on how many sell, and how fast.
The MyBitcoin mess wiped us out, but we're hoping the fees from this even cover it's own costs. So, no. It should have no effect on the event.
Yes, of course, it will all be taped for The Bitcoin Show, as well as many other media venues.
Hey bruce did Meze Grill have all their bitcoins in Mybitcoin? If so are they still bitcoin fans? |
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Tradehill, you're blaming the wrong person, it's not Dwolla's fault that users are initiating chargebacks with their banks. Dwolla's only choice is to reverse the transaction on their end. We agree that some innocent party must bear the cost, right? So the only question is whether it's TradeHill or Dwolla. Well let's look at the agreement between the two of them. Dwolla said their transactions would be like cash. TradeHill asked if there could be chargebacks and was specifically told no. I agree that it's not Dwolla's fault that users are initiating chargebacks with their banks. But I disagree that Dwolla's only choice is to reverse the transaction to TradeHill. Dwolla could eat the loss. If you don't think they can do that for some reason, please explain how that reason doesn't apply equally to TradeHill. In fact, I don't believe Dwolla can reverse the transaction with TradeHill. That transaction was authorized by Dwolla. And Dwolla is not alleging any fraud on TradeHill's part. So I see no grounds for them to reverse it. If I cash a check from Jack and use the money to buy a steak dinner, I can't ask the restaurant for my money back if the check bounces. I have to go after Jack for the bad check. (As I explained in the other thread, Dwolla still doesn't claim the right to pass on chargebacks to innocent third parties. They only retain the right to chargeback the initial account and to claw back funds prior to arbitration.) User: Hey I'm going to scam Tradehill by transferring my money to Dwolla, transferring it to TH, buying my coins then doing an ACH chargeback with my bank. Dwolla: We've received $50 from User. SEnding $50 to Tradehill. Tradehill: We've received $50 from User via Dwolla. Tradehill: Bitcoins bought and withdrew. User: *initiates chargeback* Dwolla: Oh no, the user did a chargeback because 1) he claims he never received the product he paid for or 2) he claims he meant to send it to someone else 1) Dwolla: We aren't the ones selling the product, Tradehill is. Remove the funds from where they were sent (TH) and give it back to user. Not our fault. Tradehill: What? We're not taking the loss. Blame Dwolla and make them eat it, even though it's not their fault. 2) Dwolla: Looks like he meant to sent the money to someone else, but that same money has already been sent to TH. Chargeback. Tradehill: Oh no, we don't want to take the $37k loss. Blame Dwolla and make them eat it. See what I mean. I think you're missing the point that Dwolla promised no chargebacks or reversals ever. |
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So... now you're gloating that lots of people lost their coins and you still have them? Do you feel proud? Do you feel lucky? Should we be laughing if you fail the next "test"?
It's already bad enough, there is no need for a zillion topics rubbing it in to them. It has already happened, and the people involved are obviously aware that they made a mistake.
There is no need for rude and unfriendly comments like yours. Can we at least pretend to keep the community a nice place?
Storing your wallet in a safe way (both against theft and loss) is not exactly easy nor user friendly at the moment. Even for the tech-savy it's hard. Please contribute to solving this problem instead of kicking dead horses...
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I think the site got hit big time after the Mt. gox hack and the guy quit after that. Lots of warnings such as this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=26224.0That noone heeded. Actually the OP was having to defend himself in many instances. |
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Wow amazing how the people warning about mybitcoin were harassed.
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Looks like George Soros just entered the building.
I think you're looking at those charts backwards. You're never any fun. Bears are so depressing. |
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Looks like George Soros just entered the building.
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The only other option is to go sit by his PO box and wait for him to come check it.
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Better question to be why were people trusting the service (with ALOT of bitcoins in some cases), when noone even knew who the owner was.
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Dammit. I thought 8 thousand followers was a bit small. |
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Robert Kiyosaki http://twitter.com/#!/Kiyosaki_Robert/status/97858167244988416 here's the quote. Sell into stock market rally tomorrow morning! GDP, Housing, Unemployment ALL STILL SUX Buy Gold, Silver, Swiss Franc & Bitcoin |
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I think it will be a little cheesy and it seems it has been thrown together at the last minute. That said, I've heard from enough people that are going to think it's not just going to be a dozen dudes. Well planned or not, Bruce is still hosting the first large international meetup. This is not being run by people who seem to have a lot of experience running conferences, but people are rallying around it just the same. I'm going with low expectations for the planned events and high expectations for the conversations and networking.
On a related note, I'm sad to announce I will not be selling SquareWear shirts at the conference as I previously announced. I don't think I'd be able to sell anywhere near the number of shirts necessary to cover the 75 bitcoin vendor table fee.
75 bitcoins can't be real, I think its a mistype. |
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People don't spend $2000 to open an anonymous LLC in a tax haven to conduct legitimate business.
People only do that to commit tax fraud, and now, bitcoin fraud.
A WHOIS lookup takes 2 seconds. Even without the WHOIS information I already knew it was a scam from their business model.
+1 agreed. -1 disagreed. Many people open accounts outside the US, because the US tries to interfere with and steal from their legitimate business. Now, perhaps MyBitcoin is a total catastrophe, and perhaps the owner was ill-intentioned all along, but please don't vilify honest people who simply don't want the tyrannical US Gov't interfering with them. Good point. |
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The cool thing for me, is that by and large, the economy is mostly legit and people are honest. There have been some major dumb mistakes, but that's mostly due to bumbling incompetence rather than outright dishonesty.
My guess is that the mybitcoin guy simply fucked up (was cracked) and disappeared.
People don't spend $2000 to open an anonymous LLC in a tax haven to conduct legitimate business. People only do that to commit tax fraud, and now, bitcoin fraud. A WHOIS lookup takes 2 seconds. Even without the WHOIS information I already knew it was a scam from their business model. +1 agreed. |
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We have a lot of bitcoin there..... ( as has already been reported in the press )... Many -- perhaps most -- non-technical people... and businesses, I know and associate with,.... rely on MyBitcoin.com
Most of my friends and family and associates.... all have all their bitcoin there too.
I hope it is back up tomorrow.
That really sucks! Dammit. Some of us tried to warn you guys jeez. |
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