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701  Economy / Speculation / Re: Keep Calm and Carry on... Price recovery of the coin!!! on: April 11, 2013, 01:46:51 PM
I'm not sure that bitcoin needs saving (or rather, the value of people's wallets needs saving).  If bitcoin can't stand on its own two feet and resist selling pressure then maybe it should go under.  Survival of the fittest.  Pure Libertarian values.  No public declarations for not selling required.
702  Economy / Speculation / Re: FUCK! http://pastebin.com/h7iGK49T on: April 11, 2013, 01:15:23 PM
Someone who got burned at $200+ created a rather nice story after the fact. 
703  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin to hit +$1000 on Bitstamp this weekend... on: April 11, 2013, 01:09:13 PM
.....when the EU freezes all Slovenian bank accounts according to the terms of a new bailout and the only way to withdraw your funds will be through Bitcoin.

$145 (and falling) to $1k in 2 days?  This will be exciting to watch.  Are you long bitcoin?

You're not thinking about the consequences of a extended bank holiday. Would you rather keep your $145 in Bitstamp with the hope of getting it returned in a few months or trade it for 0.1 BTC and be finished with it?

If the upcoming Slovenian bank holiday is anything like the Cypriot bank holiday then the smart money with the largest bank accounts will withdraw cash from the banks even during the holiday.  The 'mom & pop' account holders will be cleaned out and I'm not sure they know about bitcoin.  Slovenia's banking system has been circling the drain for quite a while now so they don't have much time.
704  Economy / Speculation / Re: New DDOS now in progress, what will happen? on: April 11, 2013, 01:04:05 PM
There's only so many times the popular media is going to report 'Bitcoin hits new highs!' and 'Bitcoin crashes!'.  About once is enough unless we go way below $100.

I'm not sure if I buy this whole deliberate DDoS theory.  We only have MtGox's word to go on, with no independent auditing and no detailed logs.  What would happen if one large seller decided 'this is as good as it gets' and dumped, which caused all the algos watching the price to also try and dump at the same time.  Same thing.  A wild spamming of HFT orders and more lag as the price goes down. 

The price was $180+ earlier today, and now back to $145.  Are people still blaming a conspiracy?  Why wouldn't the conspirators wait for it to inch back over $200+ before trying again?
705  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin to hit +$1000 on Bitstamp this weekend... on: April 11, 2013, 01:00:04 PM
.....when the EU freezes all Slovenian bank accounts according to the terms of a new bailout and the only way to withdraw your funds will be through Bitcoin.

$145 (and falling) to $1k in 2 days?  This will be exciting to watch.  Are you long bitcoin?
706  Economy / Speculation / Re: The real cause of the "panic" on: April 11, 2013, 06:46:12 AM
Can you please call my bank and convince them to let me pay off my mortgage in Bitcoins? 
(I say that as a joke, but I just realized it's theoretically possible you could make that happen)

Correct.  I can't pay off my loan in gold, silver or rhodium either.  The bank simply won't take it.  Need the local currency.

Even shops that sell items priced in bitcoins almost without exception obtain those items in their local government's currency, or another government's currency if the item is imported.

Sure BTC is great.  But most of life revolves around fiat -- especially debts that were issued in fiat.  And who the hell wants to take a debt out in BTC when it could go up 20x by next year and they'll be declaring bankruptcy? 

Taking out a loan in BTC to be repaid in BTC would guarantee bankruptcy.  The lender is hardly going to lend out BTC if the value in USD$ will increase without charging a hefty amount of interest, and how do you pay back a loan in BTC when the commodity is being hoarded in the hopes its value will go higher?  More people will be chasing a dwindling supply of new bitcoins to pay back loans.  Would be fun to watch however.
707  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Get a job at BFL!! on: April 11, 2013, 04:24:20 AM
Why would BFL be advertising for these positions now, when presumably they are right at the end of the whole ASIC design and testing process?  Aren't the chips ready to be assembled on boards and they're just fine tuning power requirements?

BFL's new promise is to ship ready products to end users in the second half of April 2013.  The second half starts in 4 days time.  Are they ready?
708  Economy / Speculation / Re: April 10 - flash crash - who pulled it off? on: April 11, 2013, 12:07:35 AM
Who pulled it off?  We did.  The speculators and investors.  The price cannot grow so fast, so high, without a correction or complete reversal.  It been written here for weeks that anything that climbs so high, so fast, is a bubble that must pop.  History teaches us that all bubbles like this pop without exception.

I hope people managed to lock in profits over the past few weeks and didn't expect the price to keep climbing to $1k and beyond by the end of the month.  That's just silly.
709  Economy / Speculation / Re: If you don't think this is a bubble, why aren't you buying? on: April 10, 2013, 01:51:19 PM
The price should go higher now that popular media (for normal people) have put bitcoin on the front page due to its rapidly rising price.  That will bring more than a few 'get rich quick' types who think it'll head to $1000.  There's a few more people with gambling money to go.
710  Economy / Speculation / Re: The previous bubble on: April 10, 2013, 03:33:11 AM
For the previous bubble the price skyrocketted from around $20 to $32 then ALL the way back down to $17.

It went all the way back to just over $2.  You're looking at a selectively small time period if you're saying the bubble burst and it fell to just $17.
711  Economy / Speculation / Re: How long does it take for bitcoin value to double?? on: April 09, 2013, 01:53:49 PM
All what i know is that i'm having an headache. And I'm 21, i should be healthy.

There's plenty of hard drinking going on by the speculators pushing the price up.  They'll have headaches soon too  Lips sealed

I cannot understand it. I'm trying HARD.

You're watching history in the making.
712  Economy / Speculation / Re: How long does it take for bitcoin value to double?? on: April 09, 2013, 01:49:43 PM
4 days to $400
6 days to $800
7 days to $1600
7 days 12 hours to $3200
7 days 18 hours to $6400
7 days 21 hours days to $12800

XKCD time:  http://xkcd.com/605/
713  Economy / Speculation / Re: We've hit $200. Don't sell too much... The bitcoin price is about to EXPLODE!!! on: April 09, 2013, 01:04:52 PM
Imagine how much money Pirateat40 has, assuming he didn't sell his 500k or so bitcoins that people gave to him expecting 1% per day payouts.
714  Economy / Speculation / Re: $200 on: April 09, 2013, 11:26:37 AM
Right ......

Gonna still be preaching the same stuff when it hits $1,000? or $100k?

 Grin

I think it would be exciting to see bitcoin at $1k.  I would love to see it at $100k.  It would be something the world has never seen at $100k.  Good luck.
715  Economy / Speculation / Re: $200 on: April 09, 2013, 11:12:20 AM
This is nothing to be excited about if you're interested in the long term success of bitcoin.  This just means that the coming collapse will be even more catastrophic.  The higher the price goes, the less likely this project will survive the collapse.

If it's a 90% drop like the last bubble we'll still be at $20.  All good.

All good for you, but a catastrophic loss for most everyone else, and it will turn potentially millions of people off this idea.

I have zero bitcoins at the moment, so a rising price doesn't concern me.  I am concerned about a pop in the bubble.  It's rare, extremely rare to see an exponential rise in the price of anything and then a soft gentle plateau at the end.  

What about the price of the internet?

The internet has a price?  Where can I buy a share?  Can you quantify it and trade it like a commodity or currency?  Perhaps people are forgetting the dotcom bubble and where madness and mania based on nothing can lead. 
716  Economy / Speculation / Re: $200 on: April 09, 2013, 11:05:56 AM
Double double double!!

Man, watching bitcoinity feels like I'm at the casino!

Martingale, all the way.

Watch anyone play anything at a casino long enough and you'll see their excitement turn to despair when they inevitably lose.
717  Economy / Speculation / Re: $200 on: April 09, 2013, 11:04:50 AM
This is nothing to be excited about if you're interested in the long term success of bitcoin.  This just means that the coming collapse will be even more catastrophic.  The higher the price goes, the less likely this project will survive the collapse.

If it's a 90% drop like the last bubble we'll still be at $20.  All good.

All good for you, but a catastrophic loss for most everyone else, and it will turn potentially millions of people off this idea.

I have zero bitcoins at the moment, so a rising price doesn't concern me.  I am concerned about a pop in the bubble.  It's rare, extremely rare to see an exponential rise in the price of anything and then a soft gentle plateau at the end.  People tend to get the 'this is as good as it gets, dump!' feeling when that happens.

Will bitcoin survive?  Sure.  Bitcoin has already made headlines around the world due to its soaring price.  It's far too late to worry about it now.  Enjoy the party and be sure to grab some popcorn when it all falls into a heap and people join this forum to whinge about losses.
718  Economy / Speculation / Re: $200 on: April 09, 2013, 10:54:09 AM
This is nothing to be excited about if you're interested in the long term success of bitcoin.  This just means that the coming collapse will be even more catastrophic.  The higher the price goes, the less likely this project will survive the collapse.

If it's a 90% drop like the last bubble we'll still be at $20.  All good.
719  Economy / Speculation / Re: 200!!!! on: April 09, 2013, 10:52:54 AM
"Now stop watching and get to work, next cool GIFs at $1000"

You heard Bitconity, get to work!  Money Makes The World Go Round played at $200.   $1k!  Mush!
720  Economy / Speculation / Re: $200 on: April 09, 2013, 10:48:56 AM
$200!  The excitment is building in my pants.
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