The conference was super interesting! I enjoyed it a lot!

Here is my honest and direct summary. I hope for honest and direct answers

Paying in BitCoin at Hardrock? Not really. Those 5 that I saw trying failed. Still I love BitPay as a service! Being in a location where I don't have internet for my smart phone is not the default use case. I'm only afraid we could not convince the Hardrock Cafe staff


Sergey Kurtsev's talk about decentralizing exchange was ... not quite what I had in mind when reading the announcement. I thought it would be some way to like use some peer to peer ripple pay system to calculate exchange rates and trade partners ... but in the end that's what it sounded to me: "I did a trade platform and now I want to borrow liquidity from other exchanges. Hey, it's a win win for all of us!"

Stefan Thomas ... his emphasis on splitting secrets across two independent hosts with different security measures was inspiring. When I tried to talk to him about the basic idea he left a narrow minded impression to me as my interpretation of his response was something like "you can do it your way. my software does it this way." Kind of a downer but maybe it was a misunderstanding.

Amir Taaki's speak was ... ok but he did a soso job as a moderator until the last question round on Saturday where he really spoiled it. We got sooo far off topic and he enjoyed talking sooo much it really was a pain. At least for me. I only wanted to know where the party will be so I can head off and eat something. When he was finally done with it, he announced that there is no central party. He did not even mention the hacker space party.

In Jim Burton's talk I most liked Multibit Merchant. I like multibit in that it allows to conveniently handle multiple wallets but in my opinion he's too dogmatic withmuch focusing on these swatches. Wonder if multibit merchant also has some weird dogma inside. Else I will look into it if I ever plan to add some payment functionality to a product.

David Birch was a must have! Although he does not believe in Bitcoin like 90% of his audience I have no doubt that 90% enjoyed his refreshing style and insights.

Simon Dixon did speak well. Inspiring but somehow there were no buzz concepts I found worthy to note down. Edit: He was the guy who said that Open Source and free services cause unemployment? I don't remember the exact quote but as my mind set is rather along ideas like the venus project than this slavery-like full employment goal with people working for virtually nothing.

Jason Chia did not convince me at all. Ok, he's young so maybe speaking is not what he did much before but also content-wise it was wird. He's a lawyer. We all laughed at his disclaimer of not giving legal advise. He listed some of the most obvious points valid in Europe to conclude all is fine with bitcoin - until some court rules otherwise. Kind of knew that before didn't you? His proposed attack against the bitcoin of buying all the coins was so well known that people yawned and didn't even bother to protest. Long way to go I would say.

Detlev Schlichter's talk was definitely inspiring to me as he put the fiat money crisis into a broader historical, political and geographical context. Change happened before!

Peter Kleissner's talk was too much on the surface and had no real news to me but that might be different for others although I guess the security literacy in the audience was very high in general. I was fine with the Windows focus of his talk as that's the audience we are targetting so I did not like the "why not talk about Linux" bashing from ... not sure ... was it Amir again?

Cameron Garnham presented open transaction. A real life demo would have helped. Unfortunately the project is in a state where he could not even present a special case demo something. Ok, cool, a framework to sign that I assign one gram of gold to you. How do I get the gold into the system? How about doublespending? I did not get the concept, sorry.

Clemens Cap: I'm happy to see yet another university professor working with bitcoin both theoretically and on an actual device that holds private keys to be integrated in the payment process.

Rick Falkvinge was good as always. Lets see if his forecast holds true that crypto currency success will take till 2019. I somehow doubt it will take that long His focus on the gate keepers was a good one. Keep that in mind! Fuck the gate keepers! (Disclaimer: I'm a pirate)

Max Keiser is a good speaker. Somehow he had little to contribute to the subject of bitcoin though. He's an important player in the bitcoin eco system trying to push bitcoin to 1 million users by end of next year but to me it was not insightful.



Overall thanx for the conference! It really felt special to be part of it

jaja ... ich hab ne buy-order auf 1.5€ in MtGox. Die wurde schon beim letzten Tief nur um wenige Cents verfehlt. Ich hätt nichts dagegen, wenn der Kurs meine Order mitnehmen würde.

Via Munich is a 100km detour but if for any reason you do it, post again

How can I know that I have a valid ticket reservation? I have some 5 mails from you starting with "Dear Conference Registrants," but somehow not having payed feels like it's only a reservation valid until yesterday. If things are all set and clear, I wouldn't mind paying asap getting rid of this maybe-feeling.

I don't like when people react offended when they asked for opinion and there is the slightest chance the "offence" might not have been meant to be one. Actually a pro would not even react offended when he actually was. But to be honest, your service made me think a lot and I don't mind sharing my thoughts no matter what you think of it:
I guess you would need to require the poster of content to register as there is so much content you can find for resale that you will have a hard time blocking all this with tools like tineye. How would you prevent me from paying 9$ membership at some random porn site and upload all the HD content to your site for 10cBTC each? I can automate it and upload through tor. You get top content and people would visit your page but you will never get away once the random porn site sues you over sharing hundreds of their pictures.
Same with the non-porn section. You can find thousands of pictures in members only sections that can be uploaded automatically and you don't care about the source? Courageous I would say.

no need to shout at me
bitcoinexplorer? Do you mean blockexplorer? Normally it should be way more efficient to use a bitcoin client directly for that.

Stating that something is unacceptable is not necessarily aggressive. I evaluated your service and told you my result. I assume it will not be within the users expectations no matter what you write in any corner of your page. The main thing I see when I get to http://bittit.info/ is "To increase the resolution of this image send any amount of Bitcoins to its address."
Now you are selling content on behalf of (anonymous) users. These users will be after the money when they see the content got displayed in full resolution on your page. Some might even consider suing you over the missing payment in case they did not receive the money by the time the picture reached 100% but ToS5 even covers this. But change your perspective to the customer's side. These guys know bitcoin. When they pay a beer with bitcoin and their counterpart sees the transaction, they consider it done. They will not accept to wait for confirmations for a payment of 1BTC. You should definitely take this non-existant risk and show the content as soon as the transaction is visible on the network. At least for payments <10$. Anything beyond one confirmation is total overkill for payments <1000$. Especially when it is about buying things into the public domain, you will not deal with people running a big scale double spend attack, don't you think so? Where would they get their benefit out of that?

What would stop me from getting multiple accounts so that I could claim multiple tokens and vote multiple times?

Tried out your service and the delay is unacceptable. Not only do I not get full resolution pictures instantly after paying, I don't even get it after the transaction shows up in blockexplorer.

BTW you can test your setup. How about that? Stitch your own big picture and set your limits accordingly instead of letting people find out their picture ends up public domain without getting any BTC.

I was thinking about high quality scans of paintings. Maybe they could get decent prices.

Well ... right now the standard client does not allow to use certain addresses to do certain transactions but it is possible. The idea is to distribute ... for example 7 billion tokens to 7 billion people in the world. now as those people have those satoshis associated with their private keys, they can send them on to certain addresses. To find the result of the poll you would track the bitcoins on them back to the distributor and ignore any bitcoins that did not go through the initiator's wallet.

pay one satoshi to each of your voters
set up a voting address for each option

hey, cool, bitcoin is a voting machine :)

... but: It is a bad idea to do free, general and secret voting with a computer as you should not allow to have voters vote under the influence of their tyrannous husband, well paying boss, etc. If the voters should be able to verify the outcome of the elections, they should also be able to verify, there are not more tokens than voters. Finally you should not need the trust of the voters in the one who distributed the tokens.

On the other hand, I would love to have non-anonymous general polls on political matters. In parliament, members do that so if they are my representatives and they do an open poll, why should I not be allowed to just raise my voice myself? Something along the lines: If 20% of the people participated in the poll, the people's vote counts 20% and the member of parliament's vote counts 80%?

All the concerns raised above do apply to our politicians. They can get paid by some lobbyist or be under the tyranny of their party leader. At least here in Germany this should not be the case but of course it is. So why not ask the lobbyist to hand out a few million money bags more than he has to hand out now? Why not give the power the people that a small group of a political elite can not control any more? Sure, the yellow press will rule, ... but really? I think politicians are more afraid of the yellow press and influenced by them than a majority of voters would be in such a system.

(sorry if I went a bit off topic ;)

is the server admin on this forum? any news? any backup to continue the wiki elsewhere? any plans of going online soon again?

Good idea! Ask your buyer to get those stone age physical money tokens!

First things that come to my mind:
* your trading partner might not trust your internet
* he might not have a smart phone
* he might even not have a printer

What he can do though is charge an instawallet with an easy to remember secure link.
MyPaymentForThatAwsomeVHSCollection

He wouldn't even need paper on him and you may transfer that money to your wallet while he is at your house.

Vielen Dank! Hatte noch ein bisschen auf meinem Android gegoogelt und nur kostenpflichtiges gefunden.

So Bitcoin Discussion is for the high value content? Didn't know that. Where is the "crap and unimportant stuff" section?
Seriously, you might be right there is a better section for this. Please move to Meta. Else the value of a post usually differs between recipients and this subject bothers me more than most of those "bitcoin will die" and "buy buy buy" posts also found here.

hmm ... not so much ...
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Hi forum readers,

I don't know statistics of this very forum and taken it is in English people from gods own country might be slightly over represented here but:
is a big and very common FAIL here on the forum!
To all of you who think like mizike29: PLEASE wake up! Bitcoin is not about your country, your local branch of your bank or about you personally. We live in a world of 7 billion people, not 400 million. Do the math. You are the 6%. Even owning 50% of all Bitcoins doesn't justify mizike29's attitude.