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1901  Bitcoin / Press / Re: Bitcoin press hits, notable sources on: January 22, 2012, 01:50:26 AM
Burger, Bier und Bitcoins - a short feature aired today by the big public-service German television broadcaster ZDF about Berlin's bar/restaurant room77 that accepts bitcoins. The feature concludes that Bitcoin won't be serious competition to dollars or euros because it's used by nerds only. phew  Cool

- German thread

I've always wanted to know how long it takes me to transcript and translate 3.5 minutes of video. Too long. But here is the result:

German transcript:
Quote
Burger Bier soweit alles Standard in dieser Berliner Bar.
Aber eines braucht der Kunde hier nicht: Bargeld.
Denn in der Kneipe von Jörg Platzer kann man mit Bitcoins bezahlen, einer alternative Digitalwährung.
Kellner: "Das macht dann 15€. Umgerechnet in Bitcoins ... macht das ... 2.77Bitcoins."
Manuel: "Ich bezahl meinen Burger mit Bitcoins. Ich muss nicht mehr zur Bank gehen. Brauch kein Bargeld mehr und bezahl einfach mit dem Handy."
Bezahlen mit dem Handy oder dem Laptop. Ohne Banken oder Kreditkartenunternehmen.
Weltweit und überall.
Bitcoins, kein Geld zum Anfassen sondern virtuell. Basierend auf einer mathematischen Formel und in der Menge begrenzt auf 21Mio Stück.
Lädt der User die dazugehörige Software herunter, wird er Teil der Bitcoin-Community.
Er erhäldt eine digitale Geldbörse mit einem Verschlüsselungscode.
Nun kann er im Netz Bitcoins tauschen. Ganz klassisch gegen Währungen wie Euro oder Dollar oder gegen Waren und Dienstleistungen.
Noch ist die Gemeinde klein. Schätzungsweise 100.000 Menschen nutzen Bitcoins derzeit weltweit.
Zusammen mit anderen Pionieren hat Barbesitzer Jörg Platzer ein kleines Unternehmen gegründet.
Für sie ist die Digitalwährung ein großes globales Experiement mit Zukunftspotential.
Johann-Friedrich Gallas: "Man kann innerhalb von Sekunden von Deutschland nach China 1 Cent oder auch 1000€ schicken, ohne dass es dabei Reibungsverluste gibt durch klassische Drittanbieter wie Banken oder Zahlungsdienstleister. Bitcoin funktioniert von Person zu Person."
Denn alle Bitcoin Teilnehmer bilden ein Netzwerk. Wechseln Bitcoins den Besitzer, wird dies von einem speziellen, leistungsstarken Rechner im Netz überprüft, authorisiert und in einer öffentlichen Datei abgespeichert.
Die aktualisierte Datei wird dann an alle Teilnehmer verschickt.
Dadurch sind alle informiert, wieviele Bitcoins in Umlauf sind.
Das schließt Fälschungen und doppelte Verwendungen aus.
Für die selbsternannten Wirtschaftsreformer ist dieses dezentrale Verfahren das Entscheidende. Kein Staat, keine Zentralbank bestimmt.
Vielmehr vertrauen sie darauf, (Jörg Platzer:)"dass ganz viele Menschen sich ansehen können nach welchen Regeln diese Währung funktioniert.
Dass diese Regeln demokratisch von der Community ... festgelegt werden und in Quelltext und mathematische Algorithmen gegossen werden, die von keinem mehr willkürlich irgendwie geändert werden können.
Aber das System ist nur so ehrlich wie seine Nutzer. So haben einige ihre Bitcoins auch für illegale Waren ausgegeben und ohne staatliche Kontrolle sehen Kritiker die Wertstabilität des Geldes gefährdet, denn der Bitcoinkurs ist auch schonmal extrem abgestürzt. Haben Bitcoins wirklich das Potential zur Weltwährung?
Prof. Dr. Wim Kösters: "Wenn die Bitcoins sich als Weltwährung etablieren würden, dann würden sie dem $ und dem € und dem Yen Konkurrenz machen, aber Bitcoins sind ja eben nur für eine kleine Gemeinde bisher ein Geldersatz."
Auch wenn Barbesitzer Jörg Platzer nicht glaubt, dass Bitcoins Standarwährungen ersetzen wird, träumt er doch davon, dass es sich als alternatives Zahlungsmittel etabliert. Und zwar nicht nur im Internet sondern auch im realen Leben.

Translation:
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Burger, beer so far everything in this is standard in this Berlin bar.
But one thing the customer does not need: Cash.
For in the pub by Jörg Platzer you can pay with Bitcoins, an alternative digital currency.
Waiter: "That makes for 15 € Converted into Bitcoins ... makes ... 2.77Bitcoins."
Manuel: "I pay for my burger with Bitcoins. Don't need no cash anymore and pay easily with my phone."
Pay by mobile phone or laptop. Without banks or credit card companies.
Worldwide, anywhere.
Bitcoins, no money to touch but virtual money. Based on a mathematical formula and limited in the amount to 21 million units.
When the user downloads its software, he becomes part of the Bitcoin community.
He receives a digital wallet with a cryptographic code.
Now he can share in the Bitcoin network. Classically for currencies such as euros or dollars or in exchange for goods and services.
The community is still small. An estimated 100,000 people worldwide currently use Bitcoins.
Together with other pioneers bar owner Jörg Platzer has founded a small company.
For them the digital currency is a large global experiement with future potential.
Johann Friedrich Gallas: "You can send within seconds from Germany to China 1 cent or 1000 €, without friction losses through traditional third-parties such as banks or payment service providers. Bitcoin works peer to peer."
For all Bitcoin participants form a network. When Bitcoins swap ownership, this is checked, authorized and noted by a special, high-performance computer on the net and stored in a public file.
The updated file is then sent to all participants.
This means that all are aware of how many Bitcoins there are in circulation.
This prevents counterfeit and duplicate use.
For the self-appointed economic reformers this decentralized process is crucial. No state, no central bank decides.
Rather, they rely on (Platzer, Joerg:) "that very many people can look at the rules by which the currency runs.
That these rules are determined democratically by the community and poured into source code and mathematical algorithms that can not be changed arbitrarily.
But the system is only as honest as its users. Some have their Bitcoins also issued for illegal goods and without state control critics see the stability of money at risk because the Bitcoin rate already crashed extremely.
Do Bitcoins really have the potential for world currency?
Prof. Dr. Wim Kösters: "If the Bitcoins would be established as a world currency, then they would compete with the $ and the € and the Yen, but Bitcoins are here only for a small community so far a substitute for money."
Although bar owner Jörg Platzer does not believe that Bitcoins will replace standard currencies he still dreams of it, that it is establishing itself as an alternative means of payment. And not only on the Internet but also in real life.
1902  Local / Deutsch (German) / Re: Burger, Bier und Bitcoins - Videobeitrag auf heute.de on: January 22, 2012, 12:42:51 AM
habt ihr böcke, ein englisches Transkript anzufertigen? Ich versuch mich mal hier:
https://piratenpad.de/OSM0eXIVWr
1903  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I talked with Amazon Live Support today... on: January 20, 2012, 12:30:13 PM
You might want to bet on this one8. So far bitcoin users don't look too convinced Amazon would embrace bitcoin any soon Smiley
1904  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What will popularize Bitcoin? on: January 18, 2012, 01:02:45 PM
I kind of gave up on brick and mortar business. Maybe some internet business. Most likely ever growing mass of speculators supporting a long time bull market hitting critical distribution at some point so amazon and co. accept it and it becomes a currency.
we don't have a hen egg problem as bitcoin already works good for speculation. with growing volume, the rest can and will follow.
1905  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: mtgox under attack on: January 18, 2012, 01:42:45 AM
oh!! Smiley I like that. I mean I like being in and staying in and just not bother about all that panic.
1906  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Support bitcoin.org SOPA blackout on 18 Jan on: January 18, 2012, 12:46:12 AM
If readers of this forum were not aware of this, who else would? I vote to not cripple our communication. It's like a monastery deciding to protest for more Christianity - inside their walls.
1907  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I talked with Amazon Live Support today... on: January 17, 2012, 09:31:50 PM
C. Ratte from Amazon.de had no clue about bitcoin but googled it.
She asked somebody but didn't get an answer.
I asked to be added to a notification list like was discussed above but she told me to check their website and that they generally don't do such notifications.
1908  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin at Starbucks (or anywhere) on: January 17, 2012, 12:16:34 AM
That, along with the removal of the + operator has caused me to jump ship. I now just use http://duckduckgo.com

+1
1909  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What is stopping Gov't from starting their own blockchain... on: January 17, 2012, 12:09:02 AM
Simple short answer is that nobody would mine it, making it a non starter.

LukeJR would "mine" it Wink
1910  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I talked with Amazon Live Support today... on: January 16, 2012, 06:44:52 PM
But if all the inquiries being done on amazon are linked to this forum and the amazon person in charge of investigating bitcoins starts at the obvious points, i.e. this forum, how does that look? I seriously hope that many people are doing that as a result of watching the show, but if not...

Good point. Maybe the respective authors could add some no referrer service to their links in case amazon checks the referrer id on their support form.

http://www.no-referer.de/
1911  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin in tv show -The Good Wife - Episode 3.13 - Finding Mr. Bitcoin on: January 16, 2012, 05:44:44 PM
She says dated, as in 'old'.

thanx Smiley
1912  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin in tv show -The Good Wife - Episode 3.13 - Finding Mr. Bitcoin on: January 16, 2012, 05:25:23 PM
Here's the weusecoins inspired section:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jetGyk_fkMI

What does she say in the end? "I feel so ... dated"? outdated? sedated? I'm no native speaker. Could somebody please tell me Smiley
1913  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin in tv show -The Good Wife - Episode 3.13 - Finding Mr. Bitcoin on: January 16, 2012, 04:46:40 PM
Share ratio: 5.90 Grin

I would brag about 79.8 if I were such an unlawful criminal that did file sharing ...
1914  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Plz livestream The Good Wife on: January 16, 2012, 03:25:30 AM
Guys this is so amazing! In my wildest dreams I wouldn't have thought they would be so positive about bitcoin.

... it's the future Smiley
1915  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin in tv show -The Good Wife - Episode 3.13 - Finding Mr. Bitcoin on: January 14, 2012, 04:02:14 AM
illegally invented

*sick*
1916  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Ebay-like websites with Bitcoin: Why haven't they taken off? on: January 14, 2012, 04:00:30 AM
On bitmit.net/ you already have $$ and BTC. I noticed the problem of rising BTC only after launching some 30d auctions. Bitmit seems to have some bug where the highest bit doesn't update depending on the exchange rate, which is bizarre anyway. Imagine one offers 6$ the other 1BTC for an item that was at 1$ before. First the $-bidder would get it for 1.05$ The BTC bidder would get it for 1BTC (worth 6.05$) but then rate drops and the $-dude is back in business? Will all auctions be updated with each trade at gox? I mean on the one hand I like the idea of a multi-currency auction platform (please add EUR and IRR) but on the other I'm not sure if this is fun to maintain on the long run.

Anyway, I like bitmit. I like the escrow feature. I hope they tackle those fraud issues besides from the bugs this young and promising site still has.
1917  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin in tv show -The Good Wife - Episode 3.13 - Finding Mr. Bitcoin on: January 14, 2012, 03:09:42 AM
Was this show supposed to be on tonight? Did anyone see it?

As far as I got it it was Sunday. I actually watched another episode and checked the figures and my conclusion is this is really a well done, fast paced series with, according to wikipedia, 13,000,000 watchers. The interview Bruce did with some of the actors sounded absolutely not like the minds behind the script were up for a plot against bitcoin itself, so I expect it to be really a mayor boost in popularity.
1918  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: Bitmit - Bitcoin shopping platform / auction house with escrow & more on: January 13, 2012, 09:31:13 PM
New: country filter

What is new? The country filters are broken as they were when you first introduced them a week ago.
The "Merken" checkbox does not work and is there even when I'm not logged in. Where does it remember my choice? Not in my account? In a cookie?
If you get it to work I guess you can drop the "my country" tab.

(critics are meant to be constructive. beat ebay! Wink
1919  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin in tv show -The Good Wife - Episode 3.13 - Finding Mr. Bitcoin on: January 13, 2012, 04:22:25 AM
Me too.

I'm wondering how many times the word "Bitcoin" will be heard at the episode. My guess is: one.

i will be taking a shot of rum evertime the i heard the word bitcoin

i can only hope i don't die b4 the end of the show!

Oh yeah I'm in for the rum Wink
Not that I were a big fan of g+ hangouts but for the lack of bitcoin-fan-denisty somehow I guess it would be fun to watch it with a hangout at the same time.
1920  Local / Deutsch (German) / Re: Fünftes Münchner Bitcoin Treffen ! (Mittwoch der 30. November) on: January 13, 2012, 03:50:28 AM
wo sind überhaupt alle hin? laut kurs müssten wir doch mindestens doppelt so viele werden wie letztes mal  Huh
Nanana ... bin schon dabei Wink
Und danke für's konkreten Termin ansagen. Das musste mal gesagt werden =D
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