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1441  Other / Meta / Re: "reply post" in new window on: September 14, 2012, 09:53:06 PM
There's something wrong at your end, then. It should work.

Ok, if it's only me then I will have to work around that issue somehow but I don't know what I changed. I always used middle mouse button to open in new tab since years.

Looking at the code:
Code:
<a href="https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=post;quote=1191483;topic=109482.0;…"
onclick="doQuote(1191483, 'a31ff84f61f96a0348095e93a33e8e8f'); return false;">…
</a>
I see "onclick" in combination with a href. According to this, onclick will not get fired on firefox, IE and opera.
May I ask to cancel the event or whatever it takes to restore the old behavior for middle mouse buttons in opera (and safari), too?

(Am I the only user of chromium or is the issue still something else?)
1442  Other / Meta / Re: "reply post" in new window on: September 14, 2012, 08:47:54 PM
Isn't that what the "quote" button does?

The possibility to "quote" in a new tab leaving the currently being read thread open is broken for me on my Linux Chromium.
1443  Other / Meta / Re: No betting rule in the forum. on: September 14, 2012, 07:28:54 PM
I propose that there's a no betting rule on this forum. And if someone wants to bet about something, then use some dedicated site for that, and pay up the coins in advance to be held in escrow.

Betting with strangers with no coins in escrow is bound to be a disaster.

I like the idea of enforced escrow.

But a no betting rule still reeks of Danish nanny state.

Come on, giving money to an escrow is just as much a problem as to trust my betting partner that he will pay. Because I think that bets of bitcoin will not exist in 3 years from now, I don't put my money into such long term bets but only things up to 2 months of payout. An escrow is one aspect that makes the whole situation more complicated and of course more expensive but if a total stranger wants to bet with me, I certainly would take these extra costs. With MNW I understand people didn't.
1444  Other / Meta / "reply post" in new window on: September 14, 2012, 07:21:13 PM
I used to read threads first unread to end, middle mouse button clicking on all "reply post" buttons that I found relevant, consolidating the opened tabs into one or zero replies based on what I find later in that thread. This functionality was broken. Please bring it back.
1445  Other / Meta / Re: [POLL] should the "securities," "lending," etc. sub-fora be moved to a new site? on: September 14, 2012, 07:16:04 PM
I voted "no" because I see the great potential for legitimate business. The scams so far were 90% PPT. Sorry but those who got burned deserved to get burned and hiding it doesn't prevent more people from getting burned. The open forum here can help get an idea of how to detect a scam and in the end of the day everybody has to decide for himself which risk he wants to take and which proof to ask for. If I want you to invest $10k in my business, I not only make my business as transparent as possible but invite you to a 3h skype meeting to present you all my assets and answer all your questions. I don't just hold a photoshopped passport to the camera and ask 100k for my mining operations from people that I don't care about. Still the latter seams to work in bitcoin land. Not my fault and not the fault of the host of this forum.

Keeping business out of bitcoin is a ridiculous idea and not doing so leaves you to the problem to detect before the fact what is a scam and what not regardless whether you are dealing with HYIP, BFL or casascius coins.
1446  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: If Bitcoin is going to succeed, ... on: September 14, 2012, 04:22:01 PM
I wish we had a "friend" button beside the "ignore" one.

People I "friend" would have an highlight and similar to the "ignore" feature the quantity of "friend" would change the Title of the user to "Super Hero" in this case.

Having 500 posts and getting an Hero title doesn't really say much as to the quality of posts.

At the risk of creating a caste system this would be an useful way of figuring out user reputations for the new-comers.

This is a vague concept but something along those lines could greatly accelerate bitcoin growth by improving cooperation and reducing time wasted.

I want a metric of % posts liked. Liking one person is too black/white but if you can like every post, you can measure how many likes per views a thread's OP and the subsequent posts have in addition to making people heros when they posted 50 liked posts (posts that have more than 10% like/view).
1447  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Come on Adelaide bitcoiners - help some random tweeter win a small bet! on: September 13, 2012, 09:28:35 PM
was the bet accepted? I just wanted to open a betsforbitcoin bet about this but then felt like we will never find out the outcome and he might have spent the coin online or "hoarded" it =D
1448  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [POLL] Whats the best DATA SOURCE on bitcoin? on: September 13, 2012, 05:01:26 PM
http://www.bitcoincharts.com <- broadest oversight of exchanges
http://btccharts.com/    <- killer when subscribed. Tried it one week and will try it again, only to see what new features there are Smiley But not being a day trader I'm fine with the other tools. I wonder there are not many screenshots/videos from there.
http://blockchain.info/charts/ <- a bit technical (volume in satoshis etc.) but has tons of metrics connecting blockchain and historic exchange rates
1449  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Come on Adelaide bitcoiners - help some random tweeter win a small bet! on: September 13, 2012, 03:28:38 PM
/sub
1450  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [POLL] What's the best NEWS SOURCE for bitcoin? on: September 13, 2012, 05:31:13 AM
this forum and the news thread in particular. No option 3 worth mentioning for me.
1451  Bitcoin / Press / Re: 2012-09-11 pcworld.com - Interest in BitCoin, Fledgling Electronic Currency, Gro on: September 13, 2012, 04:38:40 AM
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BitPay is also in early discussions with three of the top 25 websites ranked by Alexa, which are testing BitPay's systems, he said.

3 out of top 25. This calls for wild speculations but as you said, pick any 3.

If I were to pick the best: amazon it is and we will never ever need any other argument when asked if bitcoins really exist.
The "worst" pick would be Wikipedia donations (finally) but (excluding the non-english sites) or some other technical corner application. Anyway I'm curious to see it actually come true. There is too many reasons for speculation and announced announcements in bitcoin for my taste.
1452  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: Bets of Bitcoin - Bitcoin betting on real world events on: September 11, 2012, 05:17:48 AM
A lot of the bets are just about the BTC/USD exchange rate, which I find kind of silly.

People in speculation sub forum telling what the price will be 2 months from now is much sillier. On a bet you get the best prediction you can get. If you feel like you know it better, then you can maybe even improve the accuracy of the prediction.
1453  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Are people over-reacting on MNW's bet? on: September 11, 2012, 02:22:27 AM
Thank you all for your votes! I was really surprised by the result.
1454  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Are people over-reacting on MNW's bet? on: September 11, 2012, 02:19:30 AM
It does seem to me that it would be a service to the community if there were a tag which indicated:

  "Cost people significant money due to negligence (or possibly worse.)"

That way it would be a no-brainier to pin useful tags on people like the three Intersango bozos among many others.  And do so in a timely enough manner to warn other community members.

Yes, the scammer thing is excessively binary, not enough shades of gray...perhaps the forum needs an ebay-type system with various ratings for users, that other users can vote on: ethical, trustworthy, troll, insightful, etc.  Combine that with the ability to filter out anyone with, say, a "troll rating" > 2 stars, or filter the lending forum by "ethical" < 4 stars.  As it stands, the current algorithmic mapping of high post counts to laudatory adjectives like "hero" is particularly misleading to someone reading the forum for the first time.

/agree
1455  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: Circle of Trust [Game/experiment] on: September 11, 2012, 12:59:52 AM
added n° 44 and following.

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1456  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What about DDoS (Denial of Service) to sites that don't accept bitcoin? on: September 10, 2012, 11:44:37 PM
Ok, so what if there was somebody with a tor hidden service paying people to run their LOIC against certain targets in certain time frames for BTC?
Looks like a business idea to me but I guess it's hard to verify if the people actually did what they are being paid for.

Now running this exclusively to force websites into accepting bitcoins is where it gets just stupid. Ok, you could take small businesses offline one at a time and cheer with them coming back - now with bitcoin but I thought we had agreed to not reveal the evil nature of Bitcoin before 2015? Change of plan? Satoshi? Can you please clarify?
1457  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: humble bundle and bitcoin on: September 10, 2012, 11:28:25 PM
Quote
Drew
Support Ninja
Humble Bundle

Ninja. Sure.
1458  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Are people over-reacting on MNW's bet? on: September 10, 2012, 12:12:11 AM
People on this board have white-knighted for every scammy fuck that's come through so I'm not surprised this time is any different.

...

Nah just kidding guys, it's totally cool when people break their contracts and promises as long as they are the type of people you should expect that from.

I would point out that it is useful information to look at the persons defending Matt and their arguments.  It provides an insight into their thought processes and a good reason to avoid doing business with them.  Those defending him are saying it is ok to lie, cheat, and break agreements as long as funds don't change hands.  Those aren't the kind of people I would want to be involved in a trade with.

For the record if you see me taking side with MNW: He did a bet where he put his credibility against a million $ and decided to publicly declare himself not credible. He perfectly made clear what will happen if he doesn't pay which did not involve hiring killers or the police. He's tagged accordingly. Crying and extending the drama is just pointless. The debt is payed according to his deal and he will have to live with the consequences but please don't let these consequences be hundreds of threads.
1459  Economy / Service Discussion / Are people over-reacting on MNW's bet? on: September 09, 2012, 08:34:48 PM
MNW offered to take the scammer tag if he doesn't pay. In my eyes this was one option of paying ones debt for both sides from the start of the bet and should not lead to further actions like the open letters to remove him from certain operations etc.
MNW's posts were to be taken with a grain of salt and the SCAMMER flag now makes that very clear to all new people. Now calm down and carry on.
1460  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: MATTHEW N. WRIGHT IS A SCAMMER on: September 09, 2012, 06:27:20 PM
If I promise rain for tomorrow and ask to be labeled scammer, if not, I shall be labeled scammer regardless of people taking decisions based on my prediction or not.
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