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1721  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Newbie thoughts about altcoin investments. on: October 23, 2020, 05:59:35 AM
There are many altcoins being listed in this site https://coinmarketcap.com. Still there are lot of coins that are not listed due to low marketcap volume and others too that are being created for scamming purposes and project were dead.

If you are new in cryptocurrency and will going to check what crypto you might be into in which you think will put a good use especially if you wanted to integrate it in your exisiting business then make a good use of bitcoin. The problem is that chosing between those coins is already a difficult task. What could be more when you wanted to check the coins one by one? It will be a load of work with the huge number of the altcoins in the market the common scenario that has happen with altcoins

1. There is no assurance that you can earn investing on altcoins unlike investing in bitcoin. Other altcoins liquidity are questionable so it can't get your money back whenever you wanted to.

2. Pump and dump scheme, Altcoins could be easily pump up especially the low total supply and this could be mean a trap where many people will going to anticipate the pump scheme investing more believing that it will go high. The next thing happe is that it will be going to dump for no certain reasons or just being told big investors pulling out the project.

3. Team abondone the project. Once the project is dead it can really be difficult to regain for project is abandon already. I think that most of the scammers are like this always creating new projects because it is more easy to get money from the crowd through ICO or DEFI crowdfunding projects.

4. All altcoins market are mostly dependent on bitcoin market. Seldom to see in the list that it could move on its own without being influenced with the bitcoin market. Meaning that all altcoins had no value if it will not be paired to bitcoin directly or using other altcoins that is being paired with bitcoin. So, all of altcoins value are peg to bitcoin which sounds like as coins name after alt coins.

5. Most altcoins value falls down after it gets listed to an exchange if compared to their ICO price as I checked the projects that can be found on gecko sites regarding the ICO price of the tokens.

Most of the coins are set up to failed (Not all). If this is the trend in these altcoins then why invest such that can make you more losses? I suggest  not to believe on the bounty hunters stating that the project is good, team is good, gathered funds is good and or at the part where low cap was achieve and project is good to go. Yet, the tokens will be listed in a cheap exchange or no listing at all due to the common reasons such as

1. The project is still being developed an promised within next 6 mos. to.deliver. But nothing has changed after 6 mos. (false hope)
2. That one of the member of the team had been replaced or there is a misunderstanding within their team and they are still couping up with that problem.
3. That they are following the regulations of the government where project was basing and that the cause of project delayed.
4. The listing will get delayed due to pandemic.
5. The project is doing great with new affiliates which they are waiting for something great to happen but it weren't (you will again a victim of false promise)
6. There was no funds collected at all and it was just a false claim that they had claim much funds to trick you to trust them and invest in their projects.


There are so many reasons why you should chose to be careful with altcoins or investing in projects. If you do not want your money to be wasted then invest directly on bitcoin or to establish altcoins and not the new projects that are only good in making false hopes.

You or we as a newbie in investment would you rather care to invest in altcoins even with the current conditions stated?

Are you still willing to take the risk?


a1. There are no assurances you will earn money investing in any cryptocurrencies, not just Bitcoin. Yes, a lack of liquidity can make it difficult to trade but projects with lower liquidity may provide a greater opportunity for arbitrage/profit.

a2. All cryptos are subject to pnd schemes, in Bitcoin we call it a "bart". The market is unregulated.

a3. Agree, there are a lot of pump and dump schemes, rug-pulls, exit scams in crypto ICOs and DeFi, that's why I only invest in established projects like $0xMR. It's POW and the dev team doesn't control the supply so they can't dump on investors.

a4 Somewhat agree, most cryptos now have USD trading pairs and not all cryptos have BTC trading pairs. It's normally the BTC trading pair bots that dump altcoins when Bitcoin moons. $0xMR has DAI and ETH trading pairs and there are no BTC trading pair bots to manipulate the price.

a5. Agree, ICO investors run to dump tokens on exchanges as soon as they are listed. It's best to avoid investing in cryptos that held an ICO without a vesting period for investors. $0xMR had no ICO and all tokens must be mined into existence.

b1. Somewhat agree, depending on what the team is building, sometimes it can take longer than 6 months to release a product. For example, $0xMR is still building xTip and 0xMixer but they have succeeded in platform integrations, partnerships with casinos and a DeFi platform, and token bridges during that time period.

b2. Agree, often times there are disagreements between team members that can destroy a project, just like any business. $0xMR is a leaderless community project and although there is a team behind it, anyone can develop or promote the project. $RVN is similar in that regard.

b3. Somewhat agree, if a project held an ICO it is subject to regulation. POW projects like $0xMR that had no presale or ICO are not subject to the same restrictions.

b4. Disagree, I haven't seen cryptocurrency projects delay due to covid, if anything development speed has increased because devs are stuck in their homes.

b5. Agree, there are a lot of pie in the sky promises when it comes to crypto. That's why it's important to invest based on fundamentals like tokenomics and a business use case rather than "the tech".

b6. Agree, I suspect many ICOs are falsifying their fundraising volumes to make it appear more people have invested funds; people want to invest in a successful project. $0xMR does not want your money, the devs work for the benefit of the Ethereum ecosystem.
1722  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Casinos that accept ERC20s on: August 28, 2020, 12:42:51 PM
Several of you are presuming that the token has no liquidity, no use case, no demand, and the developer holds all of the supply. None of those apply to the token I am referring to. So far the only decent casino I have seen that is willing to integrate ERC20s is OreCoinGames. Are there any others?

because in reality there is no way that someone will create a platform for nonsense tokens they are making a gambling website to potentially  earn money having that . How developer can earn money from a useless project or tokens? They will prefer to have popular crypto in her list not tokens.

I think it was explained already but since you don't understand... The casino has it's native currency. They charge a listing fee to tokens to list on the casino. The casino then converts token deposits into it's native currency. The casino risks nothing because games are played with it's native currency. The casino gets the benefit of listing fees and added users from each project listed and the marketing provided by those projects. As you can see, the model is better than a regular crypto casino because it brings in more players "something regular casinos struggle with, marketing is provided for by the projects listed, and the casino gets listing fee profits. There are already casinos doing this, I'm looking for more of them.
1723  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MINEABLE PRIVACY FOCUSED ERC20 TOKEN] 0xMonero 0xMR on: August 28, 2020, 05:10:53 AM
0xMonero is now available for trade on 1inch, Mooniswap, and Balancer exchanges.
1724  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Casinos that accept ERC20s on: August 27, 2020, 11:26:11 AM
Several of you are presuming that the token has no liquidity, no use case, no demand, and the developer holds all of the supply. None of those apply to the token I am referring to. So far the only decent casino I have seen that is willing to integrate ERC20s is OreCoinGames. Are there any others?

Maybe the reason you can only name exactly one ERC20 token is for the very reasons you've given in your post as to why they aren't seen as even being worthy of being gambled away.

Casino's know a sucker when they see one, that's why people go to them, not the other way around.

Wow, you need to DYOR. Start at Coingecko.
1725  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MINEABLE PRIVACY FOCUSED ERC20 TOKEN] 0xMonero 0xMR on: August 26, 2020, 06:08:44 AM
0xMR has been integrated into Mt Perelin bridge wallet. Mt Perelin allows users to connect their wallet to their bank accounts and buy and sell Ethereum directly with good rates and low fees. The wallet also features a built in exchange and Uniswap.
1726  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Casinos that accept ERC20s on: August 26, 2020, 06:05:21 AM
Several of you are presuming that the token has no liquidity, no use case, no demand, and the developer holds all of the supply. None of those apply to the token I am referring to. So far the only decent casino I have seen that is willing to integrate ERC20s is OreCoinGames. Are there any others?
1727  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Decentralized Game framework on: August 26, 2020, 06:03:22 AM
bump for interest

You have a github for this?
1728  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Casinos that accept ERC20s on: August 25, 2020, 08:10:29 AM
I mine an ERC20 token that is accepted on OreCoinGames casino. Are there any other reputable casinos (besides EarnBET) that list ERC20 tokens? Most of the casinos I see listed here only accept Bitcoin and Ethereum. There are 5,000 or so ERC20 token projects that would like to be integrated with online casinos, surely there has to be options.

Most ERC20 tokens aren't successful as many have used it as their front to scam. How? They use the system to make "tokens" for a project (some have good ideas, some were ridiculous), and just keeps fooling the people that it would be a promising one. Hence, I don't see any legitimate ERC20 token as even those makers of gambling platforms wouldn't take the risk supporting tokens that could be scam and was worthless in the first place.

So you think LINK is a scam too then? ERC20s have no value?
1729  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: ERC20 integration question on: August 25, 2020, 05:34:16 AM
bump
1730  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MINEABLE PRIVACY FOCUSED ERC20 TOKEN] 0xMonero 0xMR on: August 24, 2020, 06:21:22 PM
0xMR has been integrated into the following wallets:  Lumi, Portis, Torus, Pillar, and Argent. You can also store your 0xMR on other popular wallets including metamask, saturn, trust, coinbase, status, and incognito.


Lumi wallet allows users to buy crypto using a credit card without KYC. It can also be used over Tor to hide your Ethereum wallet IP address.

Pillar wallet is a level 2 solution with fast transactions and 0 gas fees.

Incognito wallet allows users to wrap their 0xMR with zk-SNARKs privacy (p0xMR).
1731  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Casinos that accept ERC20s on: August 24, 2020, 05:55:31 PM
I am a little bit surprise that there are casinos that accepts ERC20 tokens as this is the first thread where I learned that EarnBET are doing it. I am not very familiar with EarnBET and I am not really particular with their reputation whether they are a good platform to use or not.

But because they are accepting ERC20 tokens, I will definitely check their website and explore it a little bit.

Earnbet has a 30k usd listing fee for ERC20 tokens. Unless a token had a huge ICO, that is completely out of the question.
1732  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Proof-of-Bandwidth 6G mobile mesh network on: August 24, 2020, 05:42:03 PM
We don't need meshnets, we already have Aloha wifi. It's a world-wide mobile hotspot that rewards users with cryptocurrency.
1733  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: what new coins are promising? on: August 24, 2020, 05:35:27 PM
$0xMR, it's a mineable multi-chain/multi-contract privacy focused project on Ethereum (there is no premine or dev wallet).

The team consist of ten devs that are building a tipbot/mixer, hardware wallet, DEX, and a couple of their team members will release their own blockchain shortly. They are integrated into OreCoinGames casino and are being added to Eternal Casino. $0xMR is listed on 1inch, Uniswap, Mooniswap, Balancer, Saturn Network, BambooRelay, LogicDEX, Resfinex, and Flame Exchange.

One of their privacy solutions "Chainhop" is expanding rapidly. s0xMR was recently minted on Syscoin blockchain allowing 0xMR holders to interact with the Syscoin ecosystem. There is also a bridge to the Incognito blockchain and more bridges are coming soon.

The goal of 0xMR is to bring privacy to Ethereum by using multiple techniques such as: off-chain transactions, zk-SNARKs, L2, mixers, pools, Chainhop, and a first layer privacy contract.
1734  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: We as a community must boycott Coinmarketcap.com on: August 24, 2020, 05:01:42 PM
We don't have to boycott CMC, most people are using Coingecko these days.
1735  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / ERC20 integration question on: August 24, 2020, 05:00:21 PM
I'm a miner for an ERC20 token project and I am interested in seeing used more in every day life. I have a few questions I hope you can help me with:


Is anyone aware of any games other than aircars that is open to accepting ERC20 tokens as in game tokens or assets?

Is anyone aware of any casinos that accept ERC20 tokens?

Is anyone aware of any VPN providers that accept ERC20 tokens?

Is anyone aware of any payment providers (plugins for etsy, wordpress etc.) that accept ERC20 tokens?

Is anyone aware of any other integrations that would add utility to an ERC20 token?

Thank you in advance...
1736  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Casinos that accept ERC20s on: August 24, 2020, 04:54:53 PM
Agree with above user, most of ERC-20 token is worthless... many reputable casinos only listed top 10 coin/token listed on coingecko or coinmarketcap. It's very risky for casino to accept ERC-20 token because doesn't have much adoption and pump-dump scheme. If the token can't be exchangeable, the casino will in loss.

AFAIK 🎲 ERC20Casino.com 🎲 The first casino specialized in ERC20 tokens 🎲   this is a casino who accept many ERC-20 tokens rather than other casino. But this is a new casino, so it seems not really trustworthy. DWYOR.

ERC20 casino is offline
1737  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🎲 ERC20Casino.com 🎲 The first casino specialized in ERC20 tokens 🎲 on: August 24, 2020, 04:52:39 PM
Any update on this casino?
1738  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Casinos that accept ERC20s on: August 24, 2020, 04:44:57 PM
Other than USDT, you probably won't see other erc-20's in most centralized online casinos.

Why not start your search on DappRAdar? The site lists gambling dapps from different blockchains but it's dominated by Eos and Tron. I'm not sure why but only a few devs are into eth-based gambling, maybe it's because of the fees.


It's probably the fees but if the casino isn't on the blockchain that wouldn't be much of an issue.

I think you guys are missing the business case that each time the Casino onboards an ERC20 project it gets to charge a listing fee and that project's community is onboarded to the casino. I'm sure an online casino's biggest struggle is getting users to play, what I suggested above solves that.
1739  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Casinos that accept ERC20s on: August 24, 2020, 12:08:05 PM
Thank you everyone for your advice. It looks like the best option for the project I am mining is for them to start their own casino. Any advice on the cheapest/best way to do that?
1740  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Casinos that accept ERC20s on: August 24, 2020, 06:16:03 AM
I mine an ERC20 token that is accepted on OreCoinGames casino. Are there any other reputable casinos (besides EarnBET) that list ERC20 tokens? Most of the casinos I see listed here only accept Bitcoin and Ethereum. There are 5,000 or so ERC20 token projects that would like to be integrated with online casinos, surely there has to be options.
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