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1001  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | PoS | No premine | No IPO on: May 01, 2014, 06:11:08 PM
let me also suggest, that we have donations for projects done in other currencies besides bc.. and done in btc/ltc etc. as donations in bc would have to be sold down on our order book and provide more "sell-pressure" to convert to btc to convert to fiat.

and kill bc giveaways.. ppl who receive free coins head straight to the dump. those who really want them.. will find a way to obtain them and hold some level of value for them based on the price they paid.
1002  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | PoS | No premine | No IPO on: May 01, 2014, 05:40:38 PM

Is technical innovation and a slick looking and profitable pool enough to succeed? NO!

Even if there weren't a literal sea of copies, clones, scams, etc... with more being launched every week - we have to also understand that BlackCoin is what it is... and that is a copy of previous work which has been (and currently is as rat4's post indicates) being developed into much more than just another altcoin cloned from BTC (or more accurately an amalgamation of BTC and NovaCoin with some adjustments).

We do not always agree, but I agree with you 100% here. I have been saying this for several weeks. Too much focus is on the multi-pool, and very little attention is being spent on PR. Some people assumed the multi-pool would be the shield that keeps BC price stable, and that is been proven to be false. So instead of certain individuals trying a different approach, instead they double down on the idea of the multi-pool. I think we need to pursue as many avenues as we can. We do not need to wait for the "core" group to make decisions. I have people that send me PMs with impressive backgrounds and resumes, but they do not want to come forward because they do not believe in the core group. Over the next few days and weeks you will see some talented people start to bring new ideas to the table.

"If you do what you have always done, you will get what you have always gotten...."

the multipool's failure is a direct result of poor profitability. regardless of multipool comparisons.. i am able to do .01+ btc per mh mining other coins and buying bc manually. this blows out any multipool's profitability currently. so u have to ask yourself, why would i mine a multipool when i can gather more investment power myself.

this has to do with the fact that where multipools go, coins are dumped.. significantly lowering the profitability to mining time because of the multipool's heartless abuse of the chosen coin to mine on their buy order book. i message soepkip/iconic about my concern regarding thisa couple weeks ago i think it was and was assured that measures would be put in place to mitigate it.

but now we have a further problem. as many know crypto is a flowing, moving and changing game. you have to calculate every day and sometimes 4-5 times a day. running a multipool efficiently is hard work. it means calculating and searching for the highest profitability option all day.. searching the markets. im pretty sure the multipool doesnt do this and is as a result re-active to profitable coins rather than pro-active.

i recommend some upgrades for the multipool and more prizes. noone cares about knc miner because they wont win. i believe that will be the general consensus of most miners.. especially small time.

1. give users the ability to stipulate their bid price on the bc orderbook through their account
2. also give them the option to hold certain coins the multipool mines (good coin expected to rise in a couple days will increase individual profitability and investment in bc)
3. multipool owners must keep up to date on new currencies with good potential and investment backing so that they can be added as option in the multipool asap upon being added to an exchange.

i disagree with most here on the power of the multipool. i believe that attracting investors to invest via the multipool is the surest way of gaining investors who will hold for more than a rise from 27k to 30k before they dump/downtrade the margin. i think it is in this communities best interest to make use of the multipool as attractive as possible.. and then make it more attractive. this is our baby.. and i dont think we should give up pioneering further usefulness out of it.

im all for PR on the coin. but maybe we can catch 2 birds with one stone by doing some pr on the multipool. ill voice my opinion once more, that i think multiple cheaper prizes will give hope to many more miners entering and increase the probability in their minds that they might actually win something. think about $10k in prizes given via multipool to loyal miners. this will encourage users never to leave the multipool.

good luck with the wallstreet bid. im not sure how the professionals there would take it. but this whole campaign may have worked alot better if there were already blackcoin atms around so ppl can go buy some blackcoin to put on their empty wallet gifts they just got. meh, i can go on. but i feel like noone listens to me on here and just overlook my posts.. whatever.
1003  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | PoS | No premine | No IPO on: April 30, 2014, 10:54:17 PM


I don't understand this at all. Is it supposed to be funny? Is an attempt at trolling?

Information

It fails at its purpose if that's the case, cause it is genuinely confusing. But from looking at your past history it seems you think it would be relatively easy to pull of a 51% attack on a PoS coin. If that's the case why not try an intelligent discussion?

well if someone did pull this off.. i guess thatll teach people to sell cheap eh? but that's fine cuz there arent that many coins ;p theyd have to sell small portions at a time contributing to the spread and theyd eventually run out of stock. they cant hold the price down forever. so see them as a major investor.. good shit lol
1004  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]SummerCoin|X11/POS coin|Summer coin|3 mining days left on: April 30, 2014, 01:44:39 AM
nvm got it working
1005  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]SummerCoin|X11/POS coin|Summer coin|3 mining days left on: April 30, 2014, 01:23:55 AM
hw do i mine this coin? sgminer just says probing for alive pool and screen goes black  Huh
1006  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | PoS | No premine | No IPO on: April 29, 2014, 10:19:10 PM


Next time before going into a public forum and posting nonsense do your due diligence first. I expect more from a BC supporter. You could have easily reviewed my previous posts and got an idea of my integrity. There is nothing wrong with being cautious, but it is how you presented your concerns. No one is forcing you to donate, so I do not understand why you feel the need to try to dissuade others from donating to a project that will help BC. So please stop with the charade and just stop posting unless you are going to post something that is meaningful to this community.


can you please handle this more professionally? i dont see what is wrong with revealing the features of the software. you want more investment for blackcoin and these features are a very good selling point to make your cards stand out.

i've worked in the point of sale industry for years.. so these cards as youve provided information about them arent really special to me. i can make these cards myself with an custom graphics i want.. including "elite edition". with programmable chips.

tell us what is special about the software and you just might get more funding. this is probably the 4th time im asking on this thread. i dont understand the need for secrecy behind the features of the software. wouldnt it be open source anyway?

Iconic said he'd release them before Friday. Such impatience!

i really wish he had with the mention of the cards. im guessing all future cards will also have this special software including the 'first edition'? this information couldve been helpful to increase limited edition orders and in making my decision to buy or wait. otherwise to me it was just the wallet on a flashdrive so i personally didnt get very excited. but thank you for being the first person to recognize my question. i will continue to support and see to getting one of those blackcoin cards at some point. i was more excited about the debitcards. really looking forward to those.
1007  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | PoS | No premine | No IPO on: April 29, 2014, 09:59:54 PM


Next time before going into a public forum and posting nonsense do your due diligence first. I expect more from a BC supporter. You could have easily reviewed my previous posts and got an idea of my integrity. There is nothing wrong with being cautious, but it is how you presented your concerns. No one is forcing you to donate, so I do not understand why you feel the need to try to dissuade others from donating to a project that will help BC. So please stop with the charade and just stop posting unless you are going to post something that is meaningful to this community.


can you please handle this more professionally? i dont see what is wrong with revealing the features of the software. you want more investment for blackcoin and these features are a very good selling point to make your cards stand out.

i've worked in the point of sale industry for years.. so these cards as youve provided information about them arent really special to me. i can make these cards myself with an custom graphics i want.. including "elite edition". with programmable chips.

tell us what is special about the software and you just might get more funding. this is probably the 4th time im asking on this thread. i dont understand the need for secrecy behind the features of the software. wouldnt it be open source anyway?
1008  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | PoS | No premine | No IPO on: April 28, 2014, 11:13:02 PM


Thank you but it is more than a USB stick. A few people assume it is just a USB stick shaped like a card with the wallet installed on it. Yes the cards looks cool but it is the software I developed that will change crypto. The software along with the USB card is what will bring cypto to the masses. Right now you have to be fairly tech savvy to use crypto, not anymore with my software. Just insert and you are ready to go....

where can i find more information about the features of this software?? and how many cards are there in the 'first edition' batch?
1009  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | PoS | No premine | No IPO on: April 28, 2014, 06:27:22 PM

Hey Iconic.. will the special software ever be able to interface with the chip on the card? or no?
1010  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | PoS | No premine | No IPO on: April 28, 2014, 05:48:58 PM




YEP YOU STUPID BC NOOBS PRESS IGNORE SO YOUR BLINKERED EVEN MORE!

PITY YOU CANT IGNORE YOUR POOL IS FKD!!!  Bwarhahahar!

Honestly..if you are going to post a "threatening letter" could you have at least used Photoshop and not MS Paint. I didn't know if I should laugh or be concerned...



That's Ok the joke is totally on you! ------ POOL IS DOWN!

umm.. so what? i just mine other alt and buy bc myself. the pool just does that for me automated. ur wasting ur efforts.. have fun.
1011  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | PoS | No premine | No IPO on: April 28, 2014, 05:22:33 PM
well i asked this question before.. but if i order now do i still get a limited edition? still not sure im happy about the chip.. will it be forever just be a dud chip or can it be programmed later?? as u can probably tell im purely practical at my core. the card does look nice tho.
1012  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | PoS | No premine | No IPO on: April 28, 2014, 12:50:54 PM
*DUF snipped*

...we would essentially have an effective money system...

*snipped never sell campaign*


Finally, someone is getting it  Grin The change in thinking from Cryptocoin to Cryptoplatform, from Crypto 1.0 to Crypto 2.0. BC has a lot of catching up to do but this is encouraging.

Then hopes dashed as post descends into farce  Cheesy

What features will encourage BC to be adopted for an effective monetary system/Cryptoplatform? You'll be aware there are already a few players in this arena.

i think government acceptance and recognition of crypto-currencies as "property" being written into law is enough to make this viable. this is a product with steady investment and increasing value. if we could make the necessary arrangements with enough merchants we effectively have a method of holding savings with appreciation.. not from cashing out on other buyers.. but from having to use smaller and smaller fractions to pay for the same goods each time around. the opposite of what money does.. with fiat.. today it's 50 cents for a coke, tomorrow it's $3. this is more like, today it's 50 cents.. tomorrow it's 49. it really all depends on the participants.


and no im not aware of the cryptoplatform thing. got a link?
1013  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | PoS | No premine | No IPO on: April 28, 2014, 12:13:53 PM
We are Blackcoin!! Resistance is Futile.

The possibilities are endless with Blackcoin. but today id like to talk about 1 possibility in particular, which i see as the goal of all cryptocoins, but only blackcoin has what it takes to achieve it. Because of Blackcoin's POS feature and that the POW mining stage has been complete. blackcoin is essentially a true stock item. shares are limited and the market is large which tells investors that what we have here can be classified as "a product". but what's this vision? ill get straight to it..

what would happen if we acquired enough merchants around the world to accept blackcoin in such a way that all of our daily requirements could be met with locations that accept blackcoin? groceries, meds, car parts and accessories, restaurants and outlets, books, clothing, farming and dairy products, electronics, furniture, travel and hotels.. the works. would there be any need for fiat? by bringing usd into blackcoin but not taking it back out (since there is no need to) essentially gives the cryptocurrency worth. cashing out removes value from crypto. and i believe it is the goal of every well-meaning cryptocoin and it's community to gain wider acceptance for the very purpose of being used in commerce. otherwise, crypto is just an intangible collector's item. but so is not the case with blackcoin. already forging ahead to be accepted by a wide range of merchants it is that we have a tangible product in our hands.

if we could structure a community and group of merchants in such a way that even the merchants can get their supplies from blackcoin accepting distributors and create a closed loop of currency circulation.. we would essentially have an effective money system which admittedly was originally pumped by fiat. as we move away from bitcoin-pegging, demonstrating independent trading of bitcoin's rises and falls on the graph, many are realizing as investors, they dont have to follow bitcoin's value if they have a 'real product'. if bitcoin's value falls by 50% then all traders do have the right to double the price of their own stock to compensate. and therein lies the vision.

the idea is to begin a "NEVER-SELL" campaign. yes.. we are never going to sell the blackcoins we buy. not for fiat, btc or for any other alt. only to trade for products and services in the real world. get as much as you need and can hold longterm and up-trade the rest with your extra btc/fiat as many wont read this post or choose not to take part in this campaign. what will happen as new investors come on board over time together with the multipool investors? the day-traders get left behind and have to begin trading at higher levels. then we are left with a community of believers owning the coin at $20 each.. and we're still not selling. from there we can set each new buy at a higher price than the previous and take the stock value to $1000 each.. and even at that price.. never cashout. just keep it like a bank and use it among the community for everything. this will ensure that even the distributors can enjoy higher value when they go to use the blackcoin they received as payments for their everyday expenses etc.

please feel free to let me know what you think about this idea/vision for cryptocurrency. if encouraged i will get to work on formulating this closed loop economic system to be used with blackcoin. i could take a list of categories that blackcoin users would like to use their blackcoins for. and see if i can map out a worldwide network of.. Trade. based on supply and demand.. if ud like please post what you'd like to use your blackcoins for in the real world. i personally dont see why we shouldnt start tackling this early.
1014  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | PoS | No premine | No IPO on: April 27, 2014, 05:30:41 PM
wow



Nice. I have a special place in my heart for how Doge promotes cryptos. I can't say if this is the best way to promote Doge or crypto in general, but I definitely appreciate their efforts.

yeah id say that's nailing the marketing aspect. news headline said they "accidentally sent nascar driver 20mill dogecoin instead of the intended 2mill" or something like that lol
1015  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | PoS | No premine | No IPO on: April 27, 2014, 05:05:04 PM
see.. craptrap.. ill post a small briefing on the potential for blackcoin with this community. we will be the master race of crypto if we can all follow these guidelines for our currency. i was going to release it in my book at first. but i think i will release it first here on the blackcoin thread.
1016  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | PoS | No premine | No IPO on: April 27, 2014, 05:00:38 PM
what we need right now is to offer some arbitrage opportunities on other exchanges.. Wink

set buy higher than sell wall of mintpal on another exchange.
1017  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | PoS | No premine | No IPO on: April 27, 2014, 04:59:42 PM
Epic BC Great sell Walls of Crypto,  Shocked

that is not epic. nibble by nibble it will be gone.. it is the best way to get rid of sell walls when u dont want the price to go down.
1018  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | PoS | No premine | No IPO on: April 27, 2014, 04:57:52 PM
Stand your ground is what those whales want Wink

u telling me u dont think this community can organise a 125mill market cap by the end of the year for this coin? it sells it self.. just wait for the next updates.

we are blackcoin.. we do not retreat in times of adversity.

the math is with us.. u cant really lose at this price. so the seller here is not the sharpest tool in the shed. the math is against anyone selling sub 30k. that is if u dont mind holding for up to 3 months or more.. which is not a long time in cryptoworld.
1019  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | PoS | No premine | No IPO on: April 27, 2014, 04:52:26 PM
STAND YOUR GROUND MEN!
1020  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | PoS | No premine | No IPO on: April 27, 2014, 03:27:07 PM
in other news.. whitecoin dev bailed.. turns out wc has no POS feature and it's dead. dev scammed them all. theyre trying to take over the coin and fix it as we speak..

seriously ppl stop wasting your time with other coins. dump everything u got and come to black. u will either listen now or listen later.. but one of them will hurt more lol.

now as the always suspected scam has been proven we need to prepare for the same old trolls to come back with new nicknames and a "new" coin.
even though these people are totally shameless, after this desaster most of their usernames are burned and they will need new identities for their next scam.... so watch out sepecially for the "stealth trolls" coming back soon.

do we really have to care about trolls with less than 100million coins selling for 15 cents in a perfectly made coin getting on terminals, usd exchange and so much more?? lol

blackcoin is what bitcoin hoped to be.. all this coin needs is time.. and asics  Grin

budgetting for my gridseed order as we speak ;p
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